Today, Hunter was joined once again by Alameda County Chief Public Defender Brendon Woods. This time, they discuss how the office is handling their ever increasing workload due to Prop 36, how ICE enforcement is impacting their clients and communities, and why the state of California desperately needs to give county public defenders the protections they need to be independent voices for their communities. Guest: Brendon Woods, Chief Public Defender, Alameda County, California Resources: Learn more about the Office Here https://publicdefender.acgov.org/index.page https://www.facebook.com/AlamedaCountyPublicDefenders https://x.com/BrendonWoodsPD?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO6d0gC0y1H5hrdkstpIt_Q https://www.instagram.com/alamedacountypd/ https://www.instagram.com/brendonwoodspd/?hl=en ICE Around Alameda County https://www.ktvu.com/news/alameda-countys-new-order-could-effectively-ban-armed-ice-officers-from-courthouses https://oaklandside.org/2026/01/28/ice-free-zones-are-coming-to-alameda-county/ Public Defender Independence https://davisvanguard.org/2025/10/sb485-veto-public-defender-independence/ Sign up for the ABA Public Defender Summit https://events.americanbar.org/event/12d07164-1011-4723-9352-e8e3168db945/welcome Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke once again with Rob Poggenklass and Bryan Kennedy from Justice Forward Virginia. Last year, Justice Forward Virginia joined the show to discuss the 2025 criminal justice policies being floated in Virginia. Today, Rob and Bryan are here to discuss what the 2026 legislative session has in store for criminal justice reform in Virginia, and how things might be different now that the Dems control all three branches of government.    Guest Rob Poggenklass, Executive Director, Justice Forward Virginia Bryan Kennedy, Public Defender, Fairfax County, Treasurer, Justice Forward Virginia   Resources: Justice Forward Virginia 2026 Legislative Priorities https://justiceforwardva.com/issues-2  Justice Forward Virginia Socials https://www.facebook.com/JusticeForwardVa https://x.com/justicefwdva  https://www.instagram.com/justicefwdva https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDC0qXV1Mbx27ibJXgy28uQ    Sign up for the ABA Public Defender Summit https://events.americanbar.org/event/12d07164-1011-4723-9352-e8e3168db945/welcome   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Stephen Saloom, the Director of Concerts of Indigent Defense. He joined the show to discuss Concerts for Indigent Defense and the share with us the lessons he has learned over a career of advocating for and passing criminal justice reform policies.   Guest: Stephen Saloom, Director, Concert for Indigent Defense   Resources: Learn More About Concerts for Indigent Defense https://concertsforindigentdefense.org/   Sign up for the ABA Public Defender Summit https://events.americanbar.org/event/12d07164-1011-4723-9352-e8e3168db945/welcome     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Samantha Pourciau of the Promise of Justice Initiative to discuss litigation they are brining to end the "Farm Line" at Angola State Prison. On previous episodes, the show has explored how Louisiana's mass incarceration system is rooted in the state's slave holding, colonial past. Few practices are more reminiscent of that past than the "farm line." This immoral practice forces men to labor in brutal, dangerous conditions for the sole purpose of sadistic punishment. Samantha joins the show to discuss their upcoming trial that aims to end the practice once and for all.   Guest: Samantha Pourciau, Senior Staff Attorney, Promise of Justice Initiative   Resources: Read the report Punitive by Design: The Farm Line at Louisiana State Penitentiary   More Coverage on the Suit https://promiseofjustice.org/news/incarcerated-farm-line-workers-win-class-certification https://vimeo.com/877204358?fl=pl&fe=sh https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fe0e9cce6e50722511b03cc/t/66fc02c82b34224736f02cf5/1743624596616/2024.09.30+RELEASE+Farm+Line+Class+Cert+Filed.pdf https://www.wwno.org/law/2026-01-13/angola-prison-farm-line-suit-becomes-class-action Read the Complaint https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fe0e9cce6e50722511b03cc/t/66427a930927131a043029e9/1715632788191/21%2C+2023.12.15+AMENDED+COMPLAINT.pdf Find PJI's Socials https://www.instagram.com/justicespromise/ https://www.facebook.com/promiseofjustice https://www.facebook.com/promiseofjustice https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMj-FFyyoOf-u0WbH-A6AGg https://www.linkedin.com/company/pjinola       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Ali Bloomquist and Cherise Fanno Burdeen PhD about their new paper titled "Emotion First Theory & Practice: Emotional Intelligence as Foundational Infrastructure for Equity Practice." In it, Ali and Cherise detail the importance of making the development of Emotional Intelligence as something that public defender systems and organizations need to prioritize. Without a system based approach, public defender's alone cannot be expected to develop the emotional intelligence needed to meet the needs of the communities they serve.   Guest: Ali Bloomquist, Public Defender, Co-Founder, EIDEIA Institute Cherise Fanno Burdeen PhD, Community Psychologist, Co-Founder, EIDEIA Institute   Resources: EIDEIA Website https://www.eideia.org/ eideiainstitute@gmail.com   Register for the Webinar Here https://www.eideia.org/trainings       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by the American Immigration Council's Aaron Reichlin-Melnick to discuss a new report published by AIC. Over the past two years, the Trump administration has rapidly expanded the use of and capacity of immigration detention. Aaron joins to detail how this has happened, what might come next, and the best ways to prevent it in the future.   Guest: Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, Senior Fellow, American Immigration Council Resources: Read the Report https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/immigration-detention/ Contact Aaron https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/authors/aaron-reichlin-melnick/  https://x.com/ReichlinMelnick?lang=en https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Thomas Gant, a Community Organizer with the Center for Community Alternatives. Thomas joins the show to describe three different bills pending in New York that could chip away at the impacts of mass incarceration.   Guest: Thomas Gant, Community Organizer, Center for Community Alternatives   Resources:   Email Thomas tgant@communityalternatives.org Join the Coalition here https://www.communitiesnotcagesny.org/take-action https://www.communityalternatives.org/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Alex Burness of Bolts Magazine to discuss his recent piece of reporting on American Samoans in Alaska. Specifically, Alex walks us through the history that gave American Samoans passports, social security numbers, but no right to vote. From there, Alex tells the story of a small American Samoan community that is facing decades in prison for voting when everyone thought they had the right to.   Guest: Alex Burness, Staff Writer, Bolts Magazine   Resources:   Read the Piece Here https://boltsmag.org/prosecuted-for-voting-american-samoans-alaska/ Contact Alex https://boltsmag.org/authors/alex-burness/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Mano Raju, the elected Chief Public Defender in the San Francisco Public Defender Office. Last time he was one the show, Mano explained why he decided to stop having his attorneys accept new case assignments on certain days of the week. Now, six months later, a judge has given the office an ultimatum: Accept new cases or be held in contempt.     Guest: Mano Raju, Chief Public Defender, San Francisco, California   Resources:   Read the Order https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1SyOK2OVQobVjmnA99BL1tXOycjWvVMyD?usp=drive_link   Coverage of the Office https://www.dailyjournal.com/articles/389343-sf-public-defender-faces-contempt-over-refusal-to-take-felony-cases https://sfstandard.com/2026/01/12/public-defender-manu-raju-crime-san-francisco-court/   Contact Mano or the Office manohar.raju@sfgov.org https://sfpublicdefender.org/ https://www.facebook.com/sfpublicdefender https://x.com/sfdefender https://www.instagram.com/sfpublicdefender/ https://bsky.app/profile/manorajupd.bsky.social https://x.com/manorajupd?lang=en     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Max Miner the Founder of Executive Treatment Solutions. At one point in his life, Max hit rock bottom. Suffering with drug addiction, he reached the point where it thought it would be a good idea to get into a shootout with police officers. In a moment of clarity, he put down the weapon and started his road to recovery. Thanks to the work of an attorney who understood the power of pre-trial mitigation work, Max was able to get sober and avoid jail time. Now, Max works with people, who like him, need non-carceral treatment plans to help them escape the criminal legal system.   Guest: Max Miner, Founder, Executive Treatment Solutions   Resources: Contact the Office https://exectreatmentsolutions.com/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Alex Flood and Dan Fitzgerald of the Denver Municipal Public Defender Office. Today's episode focuses on the holistic public defender model in the office that leans on the expertise of lawyers, social workers, and system impacted people to combat the City's efforts to punish poverty.   Guest: Alex Flood, Public Defender, Denver Municipal Public Defender Office Dan Fiztgerald, Peer Support Specialist, Denver Municipal Public Defender Office   Resources: Contact the Office https://www.denvergov.org/Government/Agencies-Departments-Offices/Agencies-Departments-Offices-Directory/Office-of-the-Municipal-Public-Defender daniel.fitzgerald@denvergov.org alex.flood@denvergov.org     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Jessie Lenhardt, a Management Consultant with Moss Adams. In her time as a consultant, Jessie has helped countless government agencies, including public defenders, improve the organization structures and practices. Today, she joins the show to discuss on her reflections in helping public defender offices implement workload studies.   Guest: Jessie Lenhardt, Senior Manager, Moss Adams   Resources: Contact Jessie Here https://www.mossadams.com/people/jessielenhardt https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessie-lenhardt/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Olivia Miller and Dallas Anselmo of the Clark County Public Defender Office. They joined to discuss the "corridor court" operating along the Las Vegas Strip. This specialty court, created at the urging of the casinos and resorts, funnels criminal defendants into a singular court room where people can be effectively banished from the entirety of the strip for seemingly minor crimes. In doing so, the corridor court gives casinos the power to unfairly police poverty along the strip.   As a note, the views expressed on today's show by Olivia and Dallas are their own and do not necessarily reflect the view of the Clark County Public Defender Office.   Guest: Dallas Anselmo, Public Defender, Clark County, Nevada Olivia Miller, Public Defender, Clark County, Nevada   Resources: Learn More about the office https://www.clarkcountynv.gov/government/departments/public_defender/   Learn More about the Courts https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/vegas-resorts-want-to-revive-court-geared-at-cleaning-up-strip-critics-say-it-was-a-failure https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/critics-say-this-court-program-targeted-the-homeless-heres-why-strip-casinos-want-it-back-3530051/ https://lasvegassun.com/news/2025/nov/13/nevada-lawmakers-revisit-court-that-barred-offende/ https://mynorthwest.com/national/nevada-governor-signs-sweeping-crime-bill-as-state-looks-to-boost-tourism/4167419 Contact Olivia and Dallas oliviamiller620@gmail.com dallasanselmo@gmail.com     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter wraps up 2025 with one last episode! Guest: Resources: Top 10 Episodes of 2025 334 | Was a Former Colorado Public Defender Fired for Raising Concerns over his Workload? w/Travis Weiner 335 | How Sec Def Austin Interfered with the 9/11 and U.S.S. Cole Case Plea Deals w/Allison Miller and Katie Carmon 336 | How the San Mateo Private Defender Program is Trying to Earn Back the Community's Trust w/Lisa Maguire and Harpreet Samra 328 | How the Laken Riley Act Could Get Innocent People Sent to Guantanamo Bay w/Ann Block and Nithya Nathan-Pineau 331 | How the Far West Texas Public Defenders Uncovered a Pattern of Discovery Violations in El Paso w/James McDermott and Paul Chambers 333 | How The American Eugenics Movement Helped Create Habitual Offender Laws w/Daniel Loehr 355 | How Missouri Public Defenders are Leading the Nation In Statewide Holistic Defender Services w/Missouri Public Defenders 322 | The Impact of and the Resistance to Mass Deportation Policies w/Hans Meyer and Holly Lucas 400 | Why the Lawyers Handling 80% of Massachusetts's Public Defender Cases Stopped Taking New Cases w/Shira Diner 316 | The Everyday Cruelty in Westminster Municipal Court w/Alison Gordon Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Mohammed Al Rawi and Ryan Wolfe of ZLS.App. The three discussed how ZLS is helping public defenders improve case management with automated systems. With better case management systems, public defenders are better equipped to collect and track the data that public defenders need to justify their requests to the legislatures.   Guest: Mohammed Al Rawi, Co-Founder. ZLS.app Ryan Wolfe, Co-Founder, ZLS.app   Resources: Find ZLS Here https://zls.app/         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by the new Chief Public Defender for the state of Missouri, Matthew Crowell. Matthew and Hunter discussed a range of topics that Matthew is now facing as the Chief and how he hopes to tackle them.   Guest: Matthew Crowell, Chief Public Defender, Missouri   Resources: Contact the Missouri Public Defender Here https://publicdefender.mo.gov/  Lawsuit https://www.aclu-mo.org/en/news/advocates-sue-missouri-department-mental-health-failing-treat-pretrial-detainees-living-mental         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Stanislaus County Chief Public Defender Jennifer Jennison. Last time she was one the show, Jennifer detailed how she made the decision to make her office unavailable for new cases because of the unethical workload in her office. Now, Jennifer is back to tell us what came of that decision and what is next for the office.   Guest: Jennifer Jennison, Chief Public Defender, Stanislaus County, California   Resources: Modesto Bee Reporting https://www.modbee.com/news/local/article288551423.html Stanislaus County Public Defender https://www.stancounty.com/publicdefender/ OSPD Reporting on Public Defense in California https://www.ospd.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Californias-58-Public-Defense-Systems-Accessible.pdf         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Bolts Magazine staff writer, Lauren Gill. Back in September, Lauren authored a remarkable piece about how a small county in rural Arkansas responded to the threat of a new prison being built in their back yard.   Guest: Lauren Gill, Staff Writer, Bolts Mag   Resources: Check Out Lauren's Work https://x.com/laurenk_gill https://boltsmag.org/authors/lauren-gill/ Read the Article Here https://boltsmag.org/arkansas-prison-franklin-county/         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Greg Egan and John Choi. For the first time on the show, a Public Defender and the District Attorney join the show at the same time to describe how their collaborative efforts have improved public safety without mass incarceration.   Guest: Greg Egan, Public Defender, Ramsey County, Minnesota John Choi, Elected District Attorney, Ramsey County, Minnesota   Resources: Contact John https://www.ramseycountymn.gov/your-government/leadership/county-attorneys-office/meet-john-j-choi https://www.ramseycountymn.gov/your-government/leadership/county-attorneys-office john.choi@co.ramsey.mn.us https://www.ramseycountymn.gov/your-government/projects-initiatives/transforming-systems-together/youth-justice-transformation Contact Greg linkedin.com/in/greg-egan-2a5a5359 greg.egan@pubdef.state.mn.us   We Resolve https://weresolve-mn.com/about-us/         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Andrew Davies and Shelby Sirivore of the Deason Center. This time, the two join the show to help us understand the policy decisions that local governments make that increase or decrease the likelihood that a person who cannot afford an attorney will actually get one appointed if they want it.   Guest: Andrew Davies, Director of Research, Deason Center, Southern Methodist University Shelby Sirivore, Contractor, Deason Center, Southern Methodist University   Resources: Read the Report https://scholar.smu.edu/deasoncenter/18/   Read more from the Deason Center https://scholar.smu.edu/deasoncenter/ Check out Deason's New Website https://www.smu.edu/law/centers-and-initiatives/deason-center/work/research/getting-misdemeanors-right/getting-magistration-right         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Los Angeles Deputy Public Defender Noah Coax. Noah leads the office's Neurocognitive Disorder Team that has charted a new path for public defenders to properly represent clients with cognitive impairments.   Guest: Noah Cox, Deputy Public Defender, Neurocognitive Disorder Team, Los Angeles Public Defender   Resources: More About NDT https://pubdef.lacounty.gov/gold-eagle-award/ https://www.npr.org/2025/11/01/nx-s1-5582617/cognitive-disabilities-diversion https://time.com/6311088/forgiving-johnny-documentary/ Contact the Office and Noah Here NCox@pubdef.lacounty.gov https://pubdef.lacounty.gov/  https://www.instagram.com/lapubdef/ https://www.facebook.com/LACOUNTYPD/ https://x.com/lapubdef https://www.linkedin.com/company/lapubdef         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Danielle Harris, Managing Attorney of the Freedom Project at the San Francisco Public Defender Office. Thanks to mass incarceration policies like mandatory minimums and three strikes laws, thousands of people in California languish away serving brutally harsh sentences. Recognizing the cruelty, the state passed a series of laws aimed at giving people a pathway to early release, and for years, Danielle and her team at the Freedom Project have helped people get early release. Sadly, their grant funding is at an end, and this episode is a reminder that if we are serious about reducing the harms of mass incarceration, we must be willing to fund the mechanisms that undo it.   Guest: Danielle Harris, Managing Attorney for the Freedom Project, San Francisco Public Defender   Resources: Read about the stories in today's episode https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/21/magazine/juvenile-justice-california.html https://wearedefender.com/forty-four-years & https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/SF-public-defender-unit-helps-Oakland-man-go-free-15301831.php Learn More about the Freedom Project https://missionlocal.org/2024/05/public-defender-resentencing-program/ Contact the SF Public Defender ttps://sfpublicdefender.org/ https://www.facebook.com/sfpublicdefender https://x.com/sfdefender https://www.instagram.com/sfpublicdefender/         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Professor Justin Murray. This time, Justin and Hunter discussed Justin's newest law review article, Brady's Shadow. In the article, Justin lays out the landmark Supreme Court Case Brady v. Maryland has left criminal defendants with a deeply flawed access to exculpatory evidence.   Guest: Justin Murray, Professor of Law, New York Law School   Resources: Read the Article Here https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5393687 Contact Justin https://www.nyls.edu/faculty/justin-murray/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by two guests from the Brooklyn Defender Services, Heather Stoloff and Andie Markowitz. Unfortunately, today's conversation brings us another allegation of a public defender leader engaging in flagrant union busting efforts. A few months ago, the Executive Director of the organization called Andie in for a one on one meeting. In that meeting, Andie alleges that the Executive Director handed her instructions detailing how to dissolve the office's current union, how to create a new one, and as Andie understood it, that she would be rewarded for doing so.   Guest: Heather Stoloff, Attorney Team Lead, Preserving Family Bonds Team, Brooklyn Defender Services Andie Markowitz, Senior Social Worker, Brooklyn Defender Services   Resources: Read More Here https://queenseagle.com/all/2025/9/19/brooklyn-defender-services-boss-accused-of-union-busting-scheme https://www.alaa.org/media-releases/resolution-condemning-lisa-schreibersdorf https://hellgatenyc.com/brooklyn-defender-services-union-bust/ https://x.com/bds_union     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by the CJA Panel Rep for New Mexico, Ryan Villa. The last time Hunter talked about CJA panels on the show he discussed how the federal government stopped paying the panels back in July. After months of not getting paid, Ryan and the rest of the New Mexico panel decided that enough was enough. They wrote a letter stating they would no longer be accepting new cases. With the future funding of this system in doubt, this could be a preview of what is in store for federal public defense in the near future.     Guest: Ryan Villa, CJA Panel Rep, Federal District of New Mexico   Resources: Contact Ryan ryan@rjvlawfirm.com Read the Letter https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/new-mexico-lawyers-stop-accepting-new-court-appointed-defense-work-over-funding-2025-11-05/ https://www.fd.org/news/new-mexico-defense-lawyers-stops-accepting-new-court-appointed-cases-over-shutdown Memo in California https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/federal-judges-can-compel-lawyers-represent-defendants-without-pay-california-2025-11-07/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was the President and Founder of #AfghanEvac, Shaw VanDiver. During our two decades of conflict in Afghanistan, America made a promise to hundreds of thousands of Afghans who helped our cause: work with us, and we will provide you safety from the Taliban. Yet when Kabul fell back into the hands of the Taliban, America left behind more than 195,000 of our allies in harms way. Shawn and his team at #AfghanEvac aim to fulfil the promise we made to our Afghan allies by assisting them in claiming asylum in the United States.   Guest: Shawn VanDiver, President and Founder, #AfghanEvac   Resources: Contact Shawn and His Team https://afghanevac.org/ https://x.com/afghanevac https://www.instagram.com/afghan_evac https://www.youtube.com/c/AfghanEvac https://www.facebook.com/AfghanEvac https://www.tiktok.com/@afghanevac https://truthsocial.com/@afghanevac https://bsky.app/profile/afghanevac.bsky.social https://www.linkedin.com/groups/14026798/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Calvin Duncan and Sophie Cull, Co-authors of the book, Jailhouse Lawyer. In this book, Sophie and Calvin tell the story of Calvin's life. As a teenager, Calvin was wrongfully charged with and ultimately convicted of a homicide. He faced a life sentence in Angola State Prison. For the nearly three decades that Calvin was wrongfully incarcerated, he worked as a jailhouse lawyer. In that role, he helped countless men, in hopeless legal situations challenge the conditions and legality of their confinement. Now, Calvin and Sophie are here to share the power that a jailhouse lawyer can have in radically challenging mass incarceration.     Guest: Calvin Duncan, Co-Author of The Jailhouse Lawyer¸ Director of the Light of Justice Program Sophie Cull, Co-Author of The Jailhouse Lawyer, Louisiana   Resources: Contact Calvin https://www.loyno.edu/academics/faculty-and-staff-directory/calvin-duncan https://www.calvinduncan.com/ Pick up a Copy of the Book https://www.calvinduncan.com/p/book-the-jailhouse-lawyer Follow Them on Socials https://www.instagram.com/jailhouse_lawyer/?hl=en     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Eric Seiferth and Nick Weldon of the New Orleans Historic Collection to discuss a historic exhibit they curated. The Captive State traces the story of mass incarceration to its historical roots to Louisiana's colonial slave holding past. Guest: Eric Seiferth, Curator/Historian, New Orleans Historic Collection Nick Weldon, Senior Editor, New Orleans Historic Collection Resources: Buy the Book Here https://hnoc.org/publishing/books/captive-state Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by two guest from the Detroit Justice Center, Nancy A. Parker and Rubina Mustafa. As they did on Tuesday, Hunter and his guests are exploring court related fines and fees, how fines and fees are impacting communities in Michigan, and the policies that have started the slow fight to eliminate court fines and fees.   Guest: Nancy A. Parker, Executive Director, Detroit Justice Center Rubina Mustafa, Senior Staff Attorney, Detroit Justice Center   Resources: Detroit Justice Center https://detroitjustice.org/ ​​FOR GENERAL INQUIRIES: info@detroitjustice.org ​​FOR MEDIA INQUIRIES: media@detroitjustice.org Michigan Road to Restoration https://www.michigan.gov/sos/license-id/road-to-restoration   Documentaries https://finedout.com/new-mexico/ http://finedout.com/  https://finedout.com/michigan/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by journalist Katey Rausch. Last time Katey was on the show, she discussed her bombshell reporting on the non-disclosure agreements law enforcement was using to hide the misconduct of law enforcement officers. Now, Katey is here to describe how that reporting has turned into a ban on those agreements and a state wide data base to allow people to track law enforcement misconduct.   Guest: Katey Rusch, Record Requests Manager and Data Journalist, California Reporting Project, UC Berkeley School of Journalism   Resources: Contact Katey https://journalism.berkeley.edu/person/katey-rusch/ https://x.com/kateyrusch?lang=en   Read Katey's Work and About the Database https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2024/police-clean-record-agreements/ https://gijn.org/stories/investigating-police-officer-misconduct/ https://journalism.berkeley.edu/berkeley-and-stanford-police-database/ https://clean.calmatters.org/ https://calmatters.org/justice/2025/08/police-misconduct-records-database/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Joanna Weiss, Co-Founder and Co-Executive Director of the Fines and Fees Justice Center. Today, the two sat down to discuss FFJC's campaign to end court fines and fess the automatically revoke a person's driver's license nationally and in New Mexico   Guest: Joanna Weiss, Co-Founder and Co-Executive Director, Fines and Fees Justice Center   Resources: FFJC https://finesandfeesjusticecenter.org/ https://x.com/FinesandFeesJC https://www.facebook.com/finesandfeesjc/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/finesandfeesjc/ https://bsky.app/profile/finesandfeesjc.bsky.social https://www.youtube.com/@finesfeesjusticecenter9462   Reform in New Mexico https://finesandfeesjusticecenter.org/2023/06/15/new-mexicos-drivers-license-suspension-reform-is-now-in-effect-heres-what-you-need-to-know/   Documentaries https://finedout.com/new-mexico/ http://finedout.com/         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with David Bennett, a veteran in the field of pretrial services. They discuss the evolution of pretrial services, the challenges of jail overcrowding, and the misconceptions surrounding pretrial programs. David shares insights on the importance of community support, risk assessment, and the need for effective alternatives to electronic monitoring. The conversation highlights the critical role of rehabilitation and support services in the criminal justice system, emphasizing the need for a paradigm shift in how we approach punishment and pretrial release.   Guest: David Bennett, Retired Pre-Trial Services and Criminal Justice Consultant   Resources: Read More Here https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/jail-capacity-planning-guide-systems-approach       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with three amazing guests from Colorado's Office of Alternate Defense Counsel. Kristin Ladd, Blue Daniels, and Mesa Anderson joined the show to discuss the Greater Colorado Fellowship. This program aims to place lawyers in rural parts of the state to serve as private criminal defense lawyers who handle public defender cases.    Guest: Kristin Ladd, Attorney Development Coordinator, Office of Alternate Defense Counsel, Colorado Mesa Anderson, Greater Colorado Fellow, Western Slope of Colorado Blue Daniels, Greater Colorado Fellow, Durango, Colorado   Resources: Find More About the Program Here https://www.coloradoadc.org/public-information/greater-colorado-programs Email the Guests Blue Daniels blue@coloradoadc.com Kristin Ladd kristin@coloradoadc.com Mesa Anderson mesa@coloradoadc.com         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

In this conversation, Hunter Parnell speaks with criminologist Emily about the unique challenges faced by justice-involved women. They discuss the importance of culturally competent tools and resources, the need for gender-specific risk assessment tools, and the impact of trauma and domestic violence on women's pathways to crime. Emily emphasizes the necessity of individualized approaches in the criminal justice system and the importance of listening to the voices of those affected. The conversation also touches on the rising incarceration rates of women and the need for diversion programs to address these issues effectively.   Guest: Emily Sailsbury PhD, Professor, University of Utah college of Social Work   Resources: Find Emily's Work Here https://profiles.faculty.utah.edu/u6030672       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Natasha Dartigue, the Chief Public Defender of the Maryland Office of Public Defense. This time, Natasha and Hunter spoke about the workload crisis facing the state and a slate of new criminal legal policies that are pushing Maryland in a better direction.     Guest: Natasha Dartigue, Chief Public Defender, Maryland   Resources: Maryland Public Defender https://opd.state.md.us/ Immigration (both bills passed and went into effect 6/1/25): Sensitive locations: https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Details/sb0828  MD Values Act: https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Details/hb1222    National workloads: Annual report:  https://opd.state.md.us/_files/ugd/8cb54c_7eabe4b48b944b209533fe9f6332605b.pdf   Youth Justice: Last year's bill to limit the automatic charging of children as adults (did not pass):  https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Details/sb0422 Our one-pager on the issue: https://opd.state.md.us/_files/ugd/8cb54c_9460bce1042a4eecbcba1b7e17e6f715.pdf   Second Look Act (goes into effect 10/1/25):  https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Details/hb0853   Parental Defense: Know Before They Knock bill (did not pass): https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Details/hb0223 Preventing Harm of Separation one-pager: https://opd.state.md.us/_files/ugd/868471_3f9ec04e1aa449669a307ea0fbd471c6.pdf Know Before They Knock 1-pager: https://opd.state.md.us/_files/ugd/868471_840039a4932143ee927752745c619647.pdf Safer Traffic Stops: SB292/HB635 (did not pass): https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Details/sb0292 One-pager on SB292: https://opd.state.md.us/_files/ugd/8cb54c_880a090626d046f0a536bd4ea12ebcaa.pdf       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by the Southern Center for Human Right's Blake Feldman. Hunter and Blake walked through a handful of criminal legal policy changes that recently went into effect in Georgia. Unfortunately, the state continues it's tough on crime approach that may ultimately lead to more kids in adult court, more adults serving mandatory minimums, and the state further trying to incarcerate it's way out of societal issues.   Guest: Blake Feldman, Senior Policy Counsel, Southern Center for Human Rights   Resources: Southern Center for Human Rights https://www.schr.org/ https://www.facebook.com/southerncenterforhumanrights/ https://x.com/southerncenter https://www.instagram.com/thesoutherncenter https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCApuQiMnBpcuxt-GWx9eF1A https://www.linkedin.com/company/thesoutherncenter/         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by three guests from Hennepin County's Adult Representation Services. As has been discussed multiple times on the show, many of the clients that walk into a public defender office have legal needs outside their criminal case. Whether it is in eviction court or family court, our clients often do not have access to counsel in these critical cases. ARS was created to fill the gaps in the access to counsel to ensure people have a fighting chance in their civil legal issues.   Guest: Jeanette Boerner, Director of Adult Representation Services, Hennepin County, Minnesota Jessica Ryan, Principal Attorney, Hennepin County, Minnesota Terrance Hendricks, Principal Attorney, Hennepin County, Minnesota   Resources: ARS Website https://www.hennepin.us/en/adult-representation-services       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Journalist Dan Hinkel to discuss his newest piece about the Conviction Integrity Unit in Cook County. While CIUs are an imperfect vessel to right the wrongs of a wrongful conviction, they still serve an essential function when they operate properly. The problem is since Eileen O'Neill Burketook over as the new State Attorney in Cook County the CIU hasn't exonerated a single person. Dan joins the show to help us understand how that has happened.   Guest: Dan Hinkel, Senior Reporter, Injustice Watch   Resources: Find Dan's Work Here https://www.injusticewatch.org/author/danhinkel/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Carlos Martinez, Chief Public Defender in Miami Dade County. This time, Carlos joined to explain the tech innovations he implemented to get workloads under control, how immigration enforcement is impacting their practice, and the danger of the state pursuing more capital cases.   Guest: Carlos Martinez, Chief Public Defender, Miami-Dade County, Florida   Resources: Contact OPD Here https://www.pdmiami.com/public-defender/home.page       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by several amazing public defenders from the Montana Public Defender System. Each one of them joins the show to talk about the truly transformative effects that workload limits have had on the system, what they hope to see continue to improve in the system, and how the work is finally sustainable because they have enforced workload standards.   Guest: Brett Schandelson, Chief Public Defender, Montana Office of the State Public Defender David Carter, Managing Attorney, Polson, Montana Office of the State Public Defender Natasha Fernando, Managing Attorney, Billings Conflict Division, Montana Office of the State Public Defender Clair Lettow, Managing Attorney, Great Falls, Montana Office of the State Public Defender Nick Aemisegger, Managing Attorney, Kalispell, Montana Office of the State Public Defender Jeavon Lang, Managing Attorney, Appellate, Montana Office of the State Public Defender Qasim Abdul Baki, Public Defender, Montana Office of the State Public Defender   Resources: Contact OPD Here https://publicdefender.mt.gov/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Andre de Gruy, Mississippi's State Public Defender. Andre joins the show this time to discuss a new pilot program that aims to provide rural communities full time public defenders. Andre hopes that this programs can be the start of Mississippi finally taking its obligations under Gideon seriously.   Guest: Andre de Gruy, The State Public Defender, Mississippi   Resources: Read More Here https://www.themarshallproject.org/2025/06/12/mississippi-public-defender-pilot-program Contact Andre adegr@ospd.ms.gov       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Dean Jenny Roberts of Hofstra Law School. On today's episode, Hunter and Dean Roberts discuss a law review article that Dean Roberts published last year about how public defenders can/should respond to the progressive prosecutors.   Guest: Jenny Roberts, Dean, Hofstra Law   Resources: Contact Dean Roberts Here https://law.hofstra.edu/jenny-roberts/ Read the Article Here https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4574381       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Professor Joshua Clark Daivs to discuss his new book, Police Against the Movement. In the book, Professor Davis tells the often forgotten story of how police departments surveilled, infiltrated, and sabotaged civil rights movements that challenged the power of police.   Guest: Joshua Clark Davis, Professor of History, University of Baltimore   Resources: Professor Davis's Website https://www.joshuaclarkdavis.com/   Get a Copy of The Book https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691238838/police-against-the-movement?srsltid=AfmBOorTFXbO1NSyZI4MTU28xSTq8YPHteKdKCkwWICdD6Gw1zTjdbvP Follow Josh on Blue Sky https://bsky.app/profile/joshuaclarkdavis.bsky.social Twitter https://x.com/joshclarkdavis       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Professor Shira Diner to discuss the Bar Advocate work stoppage in the state of Massachusetts. Back in May, the Bar Advocates, the private defense lawyers who handle 80% of Massachusetts's public defender workload, stopped taking new cases due to the incredibly low hourly rate they are paid. Since then, thousands of people have been left without representation as the courts have been unable to assign cases to attorneys. Now the question is, where does the state go from here?   Guest: Shira Diner, Professor of Law, Boston University   Resources: News on Bar Advocates Here https://www.alaa.org/thealaaorganizer/massachusetts-defense-attorneys-enter-third-month-on-strike https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2025/0916/sixth-amendment-us-constitution-massachusetts-bar-strike https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/06/27/court-massachusetts-defense-strike-bar https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/bar-advocates-attorney-work-stoppage-pay-raise/ https://www.massbar.org/publications/ejournal/ejournal-article/lawyers-journal-2004-november/keep-it-going-delegates-urge-continued-momentum-on-bar-advocate-pay-issue- https://www.masslive.com/opinion/2025/07/bar-advocates-arent-striking-were-standing-for-justice-viewpoint.html https://www.wcvb.com/article/bar-advocate-strike-massachusetts-healey/65491317 Contact Shira https://www.bu.edu/law/profile/shira-m-diner/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Caneel Fraser and Tatyana Kaplan of California's Office of the State Public Defender. The three sat down to discuss an OSPD report, Unequal Scales, to explore how and why Public Defender's are so underfunded in comparison to prosecutors.   Guest: Caneel Fraser, Executive Director, Indigent Defense Improvement Division, California Office of the State Public Defender Tatyana Kaplan, Data Specialist, Indigent Defense Improvement Division, California Office of the State Public Defender   Resources: OSPD Website https://www.ospd.ca.gov/ Reports https://www.ospd.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Unequal-Scales_Californias-Investment-Disparity-between-Prosecution-and-Public-Defense.pdf   https://www.ospd.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/2024-IDID-Annual-Report_Final_Accessible.pdf    Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Alec Karatkatsanis. This time, Alec is here discussing Copaganda, cop fueled propaganda that shapes the way our society understands crime, the criminal legal system, and most importantly, convinces people that the only way to make our communities safer is by increasing our policing. In his new book, Copaganda, Alec explains how this propaganda is created, how it is laundered through ostensibly liberal media sources, and what we can do about it. Guest: Alec Karatkatsanis, Author and Executive Director, Civil Rights Corps Resources: Pick up a Copy of the Book https://firestorm.coop/products/22254-copaganda.html Check out Civil Rights Corps's Work https://civilrightscorps.org/ SF Standard Article https://sfstandard.com/2025/09/08/sfpd-flock-alpr-ice-data-sharing/ Correction. When Hunter spoke about the article, he stated it was 2.1 million illegal searches. It was actually 1.6 million Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by John J. Lennon to discuss his new book, The Tragedy of True Crime: Four Guilty Men and the Stories that Define Us. John is a currently incarcerated journalist who presents the stories of four men, Michael Shane Hale, Robert Chambers, Milton Jones, and his own, in his book. Each of these men committed murder, but John sets out to tell a more complete picture to try and capture a more comprehensive picture of these men and the system that punishes them.   Guest: John J. Lennon, Incarcerated Journalist and Author   Resources: John's Contacts https://johnjlennon.net/ https://x.com/JohnJLennon1?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor https://www.facebook.com/JohnJLennonJournalist/   Pick up a Copy of the Book Here https://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-True-Crime-Guilty-Stories/dp/1250858240   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Will Snowden of the Juror Project to discuss how they plan on revitalizing the jury around the country.     Guest: Will Snowden, Director, The Juror Project   Resources: The Juror Project https://www.thejurorproject.org/ https://www.thejurorproject.org/contact https://www.instagram.com/jurorproject/?hl=en https://www.facebook.com/jurorproject/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Vichal Kumar of Partners for Justice. This time, Vichal joins the show to discuss a new toolkit that Partners for Justice has put together to give Public Defenders resources to up incorporate collaborative Public Defender practices.   Guest: Vichal Kumar, Managing Director for Capacity Building, Partners for Justice   Resources: Access the Toolkit Here https://www.partnersforjustice.org/toolkit Partners for Justice https://www.partnersforjustice.org/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Michael Rempel and Anna Stenkamp of the Data Collaborative for Justice. They discuss a recent report authored by DCJ about the impacts, or lack thereof, that came from the changes to New York's discovery laws.   *** Correction to the show. The Data Collaborative caught an error in the underlying data related to case processing times in NYC. "Due to an error found in the underlying data, the report and analyses have been updated as of September 2025. There was one consequential change that showed case processing times in NYC for indicted felonies had increased from 2019 to 2024."****       Guest: Michael Rempel, Director, Data Collaborative for Justice Anna Stenkamp, Senior Research Associate, Data Collaborative for Justice   Resources: Read the Report Here https://datacollaborativeforjustice.org/work/case-processing/discovery-reform-in-new-york-what-can-the-data-tell-us/ Data Collaborative for Justice https://x.com/dataforjustice https://datacollaborativeforjustice.org/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by activist, prisoner journalist, and author of Ending Isolation, Christopher Blackwell. On this episode, Chris and Hunter discuss the book, the horrors of solitary confinement, and why the practice needs to end.   Guest: Christopher Blackwell, activist, prisoner journalist, and author of Ending Isolation, and executive director of Look 2 Justice   Resources: Christopher Blackwell's website and Socials https://www.christopher-blackwell.com/ https://x.com/chriswblackwell?lang=en   Look to Justice https://www.look2justice.org/ https://www.instagram.com/look2justice/?hl=en   Broken is Beautiful Podcast https://www.brokenisbeautifulpod.com/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was once again joined by Chesa Boudin and Eric Fish to discuss a law review article they recently published. This time, they are talking about Public Defenders and the Separation of Powers. While this seems like a law school paper for law school professors, the fundamental question posed by this episode is how Public Defenders can/should increase their political capacity to act as a check on the other branches of government.   Guest: Chesa Boudin, Executive Director, Criminal Law and Justice Center, Berkley Law Eric Fish, Professor of Law, UC Davis School of Law   Resources: Read the Article Here: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5198358 San Benito County Report https://www.ospd.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/2024-IDID-Annual-Report_Final_Accessible.pdf California Report on Flat Fee contracts https://www.aclunc.org/sites/default/files/Contracted%20to%20Fail%20report_March%202025.pdf   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter hosted a debate between Professor John Gross and Professor Bob Boruchowitz about the Public Defender National Workload Standards. Back in the spring of this year, John penned an article about some of the methodological and pragmatic issues with the National Workload study. Meanwhile, Bob has been working in Washington for decades to bring meaningful, enforceable workload standards across the state. Today, Hunter spoke with both of them to hear each side of this debate and to try and figure out the best way to use the national workload standards.   Guest: John Gross, Professor of Law, University of Wisconsin School of Law Bob Boruchowitz, Professor of Law, Seattle University School of Law   Resources: John's Article https://publicdefenders.us/blogs/the-problems-with-the-national-public-defense-workload-study/ John's Faculty Page https://law.wisc.edu/profiles/john.gross Bob's Writings https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/wa-works-toward-easing-public-defender-shortage-but-more-must-be-done/ https://law.seattleu.edu/media/school-of-law/documents/faculty/publications/boruchowitz/2025_01_RevisedStandards.pdf Other Responses to John's Article https://publicdefenders.us/blogs/the-problem-with-ignoringthe-national-public-defenseworkload-study/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter hosted a debate between Professor John Gross and Professor Bob Boruchowitz about the Public Defender National Workload Standards. Back in the spring of this year, John penned an article about some of the methodological and pragmatic issues with the National Workload study. Meanwhile, Bob has been working in Washington for decades to bring meaningful, enforceable workload standards across the state. Today, Hunter spoke with both of them to hear each side of this debate and to try and figure out the best way to use the national workload standards.   Guest: John Gross, Professor of Law, University of Wisconsin School of Law Bob Boruchowitz, Professor of Law, Seattle University School of Law   Resources: John's Article https://publicdefenders.us/blogs/the-problems-with-the-national-public-defense-workload-study/ John's Faculty Page https://law.wisc.edu/profiles/john.gross Bob's Writings https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/wa-works-toward-easing-public-defender-shortage-but-more-must-be-done/ https://law.seattleu.edu/media/school-of-law/documents/faculty/publications/boruchowitz/2025_01_RevisedStandards.pdf Other Responses to John's Article https://publicdefenders.us/blogs/the-problem-with-ignoringthe-national-public-defenseworkload-study/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Sharone Mitchell Jr. and Sharlyn Grace of the Cook County Public Defender Office. As we have already seen in Los Angeles and D.C., President Trump is threatening to deploy the national guard to Chicago to combat "crime." Today, Sharone and Sharlyn joined the show to discuss what is actually happening on the ground in Chicago, what the city needs to continue improving public safety, and what Trump's threats are actually about.   Guest: Sharone Mitchell Jr., Chief Public Defender, Cook County, Chicago, Illinois Sharlyn Grace, Deputy Public Defender for Policy, Cook County, Chicago, Illinois   Resources: Liberals and Centrists Biting Off on the Crime Issue https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/bowser-trump-police-takeover-lower-dc-crime-national-guard-ice-rcna227582 Reports on Cash Bail https://loyolaccj.org/pretrial-fairness-act https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/bail-reform-and-public-safety https://reason.org/wp-content/uploads/the-effects-of-cash-bail-on-crime-and-court-appearances.pdf Crime in Chicago https://counciloncj.org/crime-trends-in-u-s-cities-mid-year-2025-update/ https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/sites/vrd/home/violence-victimization.html     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Professor Eve Primus. This time, Eve joined the show to discuss her newest law review article "Burdens of Proof in Criminal Procedure." At first glance, this might seem like a boring, technical legal topic, but the burden of proof is often the only thing that matters in a criminal trial. As Eve points out, the entire case can hinge on who has to prove what and when they have to prove it.   Guest: Eve Primus, Professor of Law, University of Michigan School of Law   Resources: Read Eve's Work https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5136879Amanda's Faculty Page Contact Eve https://michigan.law.umich.edu/faculty-and-scholarship/our-faculty/eve-brensike-primus   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Professor Amanda Savage to discuss her latest law review article "The Pseudoscience of Gun Hunting".  In the article, Amanda explains the cop created "Characteristics of an Armed Person" training that cops undergo to identify who may or may not have a weapon. As with many cop created "sciences," CAP is the perfect tool for police to use if they want to stop, search, and frisk someone for any reason or no reason at all.   Guest: Amanda Savage, Professor of Law, Denver University School of Law   Resources: Read Amanda's Work https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5148151 Amanda's Faculty Page https://www.law.du.edu/about/people/amanda-savage   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was Renae Alt-Summers and Mekka Jeffers-Nelson to discuss the payment stoppage for Criminal Justice Act Panel Attorneys. Just like state public defender systems, the federal public defender system relies on private defense counsel to take conflict cases and serve as the primary way to deliver public defender services. Yet as of the start of July, those CJA panel attorneys have had payments stopped, and those payments aren't set to come back online until at least October. So, what will happen to the federal public defender system now and in the future?   Guest: Renae Alt-Summers, CJA Panel Rep, Federal District of South Carolina Mekka Jeffers-Nelson, CJA Panel Rep, Federal District of Western North Carolina   Resources: Contact Renae and Mekka mjnelsonlaw@aol.com raltsummers@gmail.com Read More About the Freeze https://www.uscourts.gov/data-news/judiciary-news/2025/07/15/funding-crisis-leaves-defense-lawyers-working-without-pay https://www.cbsnews.com/news/defense-lawyers-needy-clients-congressional-funds-dry-up/ https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/federal-defender-program-will-run-out-of-funds-to-pay-panel-attorneys-court-officials-warn https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/defense-lawyers-face-months-without-pay-as-federal-funds-dry-up https://www.wacdl.org/blog_home.asp?Display=14 https://www.fd.org/news/funding-crisis-leaves-defense-lawyers-working-without-pay     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Grant Miller, Salt Lake City Public Defender and Representative of Utah's 24th House District. Last time that he was on the show, Grant was running for office. Now, Grant joins to discuss how his first legislative session went. From passing a bill to reduce fines and fees to helping ensure the Overton window didn't shift too far to tough on crime side, Grant gives us a reason to be optimistic even when we hold minimal political power.   Guest: Grant Miller, Public Defender and Utah House Representative, Salt Lake City, House District 24   Resources: Contact Grant https://www.grantmillerforhouse24.com/ https://www.instagram.com/grantistheguy/?hl=en     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Crystal Leff-Piñon, Director of TIDC's family protection representation unit. On Tuesday, Hunter and Scott Ehlers discussed the funding problem and attorney shortages leading to a slow moving crisis in rural Texas. Today, Crystal joins to share how similar the issues are for family defense throughout the state of Texas.   Guest: Crystal Leff-Piñon, Director, Family Protection Representation, Texas Indigent Defense Commission Resources: TIDC Website: https://www.tidc.texas.gov/about-us/who-we-are/staff/ehlers-scott/ Contact Crystal CLeff-Pinon@tidc.texas.gov     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again the Texas Indigent Defense Commission Executive Director, Scott Ehlers. This time, Scott and Hunter explore a slow moving crisis in Texas Public Defense: an absolute lack of attorneys in rural parts of the state. As with so many states with large rural areas, attorneys are retiring faster than they can be replaced. Scott and his team at TIDC tried to get more funding from the legislature, but as it stands now, the legislature does not seem to be taking this issue as seriously as they should. So what will happen to public defense in rural Texas?   Guest: Scott Ehlers, Executive Director, Texas Indigent Defense Commission     Resources: TIDC Website: https://www.tidc.texas.gov/about-us/who-we-are/staff/ehlers-scott/ Contact Scott SEhlers@tidc.texas.gov Read more about Problems in Rural Public Defense   https://ppri.tamu.edu/portfolio-items/justice-beyond-the-cities/ https://www.texastribune.org/2025/02/27/texas-rural-public-defense-indigent/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by the Executive Director of North Dakota's Commission of Legal Counsel for the Indigent, Travis Fink. Last time, Travis joined the show to detail a bleak outlook for public defense in the state. Not enough attorneys in both the contract and full-time systems, inadequate pay, and crushing workloads left Travis with little choice. He drafted up a letter preparing to tell the courts the public defender would be taking no new cases, but before he could send it out, the legislature threw the system a lifeline.   Guest: Travis Fink, Executive Director, North Dakota Commission of Legal Counsel for the Indigent   Resources: Travis Testimony at the Legislature https://video.ndlegis.gov/en/PowerBrowser/PowerBrowserV2/20250130/-1/32604 Contact the North Dakota Public Defender https://www.indigents.nd.gov/ North Dakota Public Defender News https://northdakotamonitor.com/2025/07/07/north-dakota-public-defenders-see-budget-increase-with-new-biennium/ https://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-regional/crime-courts/public-defenders-underpaid-overworked-north-dakota-report-says/article_76910028-f819-11ee-a575-8f6da532994a.html     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by New Mexico's Chief Public Defender, Ben Baur. A few years back, a workload study estimated that New Mexico had 1/3 of the public defenders it needed to meet its workload demands. At that time, the state set out on a five-year plan to address the staffing shortage. Unfortunately, the state has not stuck to the five-year plan. Now, with a shortage of attorneys in rural parts of the state, low pay for contract attorneys, and still too many cases, will the New Mexico public defenders have to stop taking new cases?   Guest: Ben Baur, Chief Public Defender, New Mexico Law Offices of the Public Defender   Resources: Contact the New Mexico Public Defender https://www.lopdnm.us/offices/ New Mexico Resources https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nAHtHZaAmu6My2tL04Dn_HlLhy-HARuP?usp=sharing New Mexico Workload Study https://www.lopdnm.us/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/LOPD-Attorney-Workload-Study2.pdf New Mexico Five Year Plan https://www.lopdnm.us/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Final-Draft-LOPD-5-Year-Plan.pdf   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Dennis Calhoun, Tim Ray Johnson, and Amanda Ulrich to discuss how Washington is helping people who were found not guilty by reason of insanity.   Guest: Tim Ray Johnson, Criminal Defense Lawyer, Washington Dennis Calhoun, Student, Washington Amanda Ulrich, Public Defender Washington   Resources: WA PD https://opd.wa.gov/ NGRI https://opd.wa.gov/forensic-civil-commitment Email Amdanda and Tim amanda@stebbinsullrich.com trj@trjdefense.com    Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Nat Jacob, Elizabeth Mustin, and Rachel Cortez to discuss new efforts by the Washington to recruit and retain Public Defenders.   Guest Nat Jacob, Recruitment and Retention Managing Attorney Western Washington, Washington Office of Public Defense Rachel Cortez, Recruitment and Retention Managing Attorney Eastern Washington, Washington Office of Public Defense Elizabeth Mustin, Supervising Attorney, Youth Criminal Defense Project, Washington Office of Public Defense     Resources: WA PD https://opd.wa.gov/ Fellowship https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&feature=shared&v=g5QiPP3PEfo https://opd.wa.gov/recruitment-and-retention https://opd.wa.gov/recruitment-and-retention/rural-public-defense-fellowship Emails Nat.jacob@opd.wa.gov Rachel.cortez@opd.wa.gov   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by federal public defender Amanda Bass Castro Alves to discuss the wrongful conviction of Tremane Wood. In 2004, Tremane was convicted of felony murder and sentenced to death in the State of Oklahoma. Just after that, his brother, who admitted to pulling the trigger and who stated Tremane was not responsible for the death, was given a life sentence just after Tremane's trial. So how is it that a person who did not kill anyone ended up on death row? All that and more on today's episode. Guest Amanda Bass Castro Alves, Assistant Federal Public Defender, District of Arizona   Resources: More About Tremane's Case https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/stories/deeply-rooted-oklahoma-case-spotlight-tremane-wood https://www.huffpost.com/entry/death-row-felony-murder-oklahoma_n_67094c44e4b0f3da6456d60c https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oklahoma-sets-execution-tremane-wood_n_684afd19e4b0d6fb6cd8eabe Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Erica Nichols Cook, the head of the Iowa State Public Defender Wrongful Conviction Unit. On today's episode, Erica walks us through the case of Jerry Mark. In 1976, he was convicted of the murder of his brother, sister-in-law and their two children, but as you will hear, all the evidence points to the fact that Jerry Mark wasn't even in the state when the murder happened.     Guest Erica Nichols Cook, Director, Wrongful Convictions Unit, Iowa State Public Defender   Resources: More About Jerry's Case https://www.iowapublicradio.org/ipr-news/2024-11-19/jerry-mark-seeks-exoneration-for-murders-halloween-1975-cedar-falls   Contact Erica https://www.drake.edu/law/clinics-centers/clinic/wrongfulconvictionsclinic/ https://www.facebook.com/enicholscook/   Send Jerry a Letter   Non legal mail has to go through the mail processing facility: Jerry Mark, #0103896 Anamosa State Penitentiary (ASP) - 1106 PO Box 96777 Las Vegas, NV  89193       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Professor Megan Walsh and Anthony Benz from the University of Minnesota. As we did on Tuesday, Hunter sat down with these two to highlight the work of a law school clinic. This clinic focuses on combating gun violence through both offensive and defensive litigation.     Guest Megan Walsh, Director, Gun Violence Prevention Clinic, University of Minnesota Anthon Benz, Student Attorney, University of Minnesota     Resources: Contact Megan https://law.umn.edu/course/7408/spring-2023/gun-violence-prevention-clinic/walsh-megan https://bsky.app/profile/meganwalshgvp.bsky.social Jacob Charles Article https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/assets/the-dead-hand-of-a-silent-past_-bruen-gun-rights-and-the-shackl.pdf       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Professor Megan Graham to discuss how her law an technology clinic is helping Public Defenders deal with technology issues in their client's cases.   Guest Megan Graham, Associate Clinical Professor of Law, Director of Technology Law Clinic, University of Iowa College of Law   Resources: Contact Megan https://law.uiowa.edu/people/megan-graham https://bsky.app/profile/megankgraham.bsky.social   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Co-Founders and Co-Executive Directors of Unchained Emily Napier-Singletary and Derek Singletary. Unchained is a non-profit organization based out of New York that seeks to "empower those currently and formerly incarcerated in the state of New York through policy development, community organizing and advocacy, research, and liberation education." On today's episode, Derek and Emily discuss what happened both inside and outside of New York prisons during the New York Correctional Officer Illegal Wild Cat Strike.     Guest Emily Napier Singletary, Co-Founder and Co-Executive Director, Unchained Derek Singletary, Co-Founder and Co-Executive Director, Unchained   Resources: Unchained's Work https://www.weareunchained.org/   Murder of Robert Brooks https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/05/us/robert-brooks-beating-security-guard-plea https://cnycentral.com/news/local/this-is-whats-next-after-eight-former-cos-rejects-offers-in-robert-brooks-death-case-oneida-county-court-murder-manslaughter-inmate-marcy-correctional-facility https://13wham.com/news/local/former-correction-officers-return-to-court-now-facing-trial-for-inmates-death-robert-brooks-marcy-correctional-prison-new-york-crime-murder-beating-case-national-charges-officers-video-bodycam-attorney-general-governor- https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/murder-charges-announced-death-robert-brooks-man-beaten-new-york-corre-rcna193019 https://theappeal.org/robert-brooks-murder-new-york-prisons-racism-brutality/   Illegal Wild Cat Strike https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-york-fires-2000-prison-guards-refuse-return-work-wildcat-strike-rcna195765 https://www.wkbw.com/news/i-team/low-staffing-levels-535-new-york-state-corrections-officers-resign-during-after-wildcat-strike https://prisonjournalismproject.org/2025/03/10/what-was-the-ny-wildcat-strike-like-for-incarcerated-people/   HALT Act https://www.albanylaw.edu/government-law-center/explaining-the-halt-act https://ig.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2024/08/nys-oig-doccs-halt-report-8.5.24.pdf https://nysba.org/the-halt-act-and-solitary-confinement-in-new-york-state/?srsltid=AfmBOors7C8DaJYbPV9NWj-2lue3qO4vIgnoW145V5NDdkTAz6_OYCQ1     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by investigative journalist Anat Rubin to discuss her recent reporting on Public Defender Investigators in California. At times, investigators are the single most important person in a criminal defense case, and yet around the country, nearly all public defenders do not have access to necessary investigative resources. Today, Anat joins the show to discuss how the systemic underfunding of public defense investigators increases the risk of wrongful convictions by highlighting the story of an investigator who unsolved a murder.   Guest Anat Rubin, Investigative Journalist, CalMatters   Resources: Anat's Reporting https://calmatters.org/investigation/2025/06/public-defense-investigators-takeaways/ https://calmatters.org/investigation/2025/06/public-defense-investigators/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Dujuan "Zoe" Kennedy of Force Detroit a Community Violence Intervention organization in Detroit. For decades, Detroit was known around the country for being the poster child for the decaying state of U.S. manufacturing. With this reputation as a decaying city came a reputation for high rates of violent crime, but over the past few years, Detroit has seen some of the lowest rates of homicides, gun crimes, and violent crimes it has in 60 years. Zoe joins the podcast to explain how through community interventions, and not policing, the city has provided a model for alternative solutions to violence.   Guest Dujuan "Zoe" Kennedy, Executive Director, Force Detroit, Michigan   Resources: Force Detroit https://forcedetroit.org/ More About Zoe https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/man-convicted-of-murder-turns-his-life-around-to-stop-violence-in-the-community/ https://www.instagram.com/dujuanzoe/ More About Remarkable Crime Rate Reductions in Detroit https://detroitmi.gov/news/detroit-partnerships-result-another-historic-drop-violent-crime-2024-fewest-homicides-1965-shootings https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/detroit-reports-historic-drop-in-violent-crime-2024/ https://detroitmi.gov/news/detroit-ends-2023-fewest-homicides-57-years-double-digit-drops-shootings-and-carjackings-thanks-dpd https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/detroit-homicide-drop-2024-1.7423641 https://www.freep.com/story/opinion/columnists/khalil-alhajal/2025/01/22/detroit-murder-rate-violent-crime-lansing-neighborhoods/77587006007/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined Claire Valentin and Hayley Upshaw to discuss how the intersection of criminal and immigration law impacts kids. So far on the show, Hunter and various guests have explored the "Crimmigration" intersection as it pertains to adults. Now, Hunter, Hayley, and Claire unpack the ways this already cruel system is especially cruel for kid.   Guest Hayley Upshaw, Deputy Public Defender, San Francisco Public Defender Officer Claire Valentin, Managing Director of Innovation and Advocacy, Children's Law Center of Massachusetts   Resources: US Citizen Picked Up By ICE https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/20/us-citizen-jose-hermosillo-border-patrol https://news.azpm.org/p/azpmnews/2025/4/18/224512-us-citizen-in-arizona-detained-by-immigration-officials-for-10-days/ Contact Claire https://www.clcm.org/staff   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Ali Saidi, Deputy Public Defender in Contra Costa County, California. On this episode, Hunter and Ali discuss how Public Defenders can have a larger impact in immigration defense by bringing the services to the communities who need them the most. Guest Ali Saidi, Deputy Public Defender, Contra Costa County, California Resources: Contra Costa County Public Defender https://www.cocopublicdefenders.org/ https://www.facebook.com/ContraCostaPublicDefender/ https://www.instagram.com/cocopublicdefenders/ https://x.com/cocodefender Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Angla Chan of the San Francisco Public Defender Officer. This time, the two say down to discuss the history of sanctuary laws in California, why they are so important, and reflect on the reasons why people leave their home countries in the first place.     Guest Angela Chan, Chief of Confront and Advocate, San Francisco Public Defender's Office     Resources: Gov. Newsom's history with ordering juvenile probation in SF to turn youth over to ICE when he was SF Mayor in 2008. His "regret" over his prior actions in 2018 when he was running for governor. stories of Southeast Asian refugees who were incarcerated firefighters who CDCR turned over to ICE. SF Public Defender Office https://sfpublicdefender.org/ https://www.facebook.com/sfpublicdefender https://x.com/sfdefender https://www.instagram.com/sfpublicdefender/ https://bsky.app/profile/sfpublicdefender.sf.gov American Interventionism https://www.amazon.com/Jakarta-Method-Washingtons-Anticommunist-Crusade/dp/1541742400 Guatemala https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/jacobo-arbenz-guzman-deposed/ https://hmh.org/library/research/genocide-in-guatemala-guide/ https://cja.org/what-we-do/litigation/the-guatemala-genocide-case/ Laos https://www.history.com/articles/laos-most-bombed-country-vietnam-war https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/apr/27/i-dont-want-more-children-to-suffer-what-i-did-the-50-year-fight-to-clear-us-bombs-from-laos https://www.mnvietnam.org/story/the-cia-the-hmong-and-the-secret-war/index.html https://winwithoutwar.org/secret-war-forgotten-war-the-u-s-bombing-of-laos/ Cambodia https://www.history.com/articles/nixon-war-powers-act-vietnam-war-cambodia https://macmillan.yale.edu/gsp/us-involvement-cambodian-war-and-genocide-0     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by the Chief Public Defender of Delaware, Kevin O'Connell. This time, the two focused on the see-saw history of death penalty abolition in the state of Delaware. It may come as a surprise to many, but Delaware has historically been one of the most prolific death penalty states in America, and today, Kevin and Hunter discuss the politics and policies that kept the death penalty alive and thriving in the state. Finally, they discuss what lessons those interested in death penalty abolition can learn from the meandering path that Delaware took to get on the door step of a Constitutional ban on the practice.   Guest Kevin O'Connell, Chief Public Defender, Defender Services of Delaware   Resources: More on the Death Penalty in Delaware http://deathpenaltyinfo.org/delaware-officially-removes-death-penalty-from-state-statutes-eight-years-after-state-supreme-court-finds-it-unconstitutional https://deathpenalty.org/delaware-officially-repeals-its-death-penalty/ https://www.aclu-de.org/en/death-penalty-repeal         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was by the Public Defender for the state of Idaho, Eric Fredericksen. Over the past two years, Public Defense in Idaho underwent a massive overhaul. For decades, the state has operated a county-based system that functioned with serious justice by geography problems, but with pressure from ACLU lawsuits, the state needed to change. So, they finally made the decision to transition to a state wide, state funded system. The transition, however, has been anything but smooth. Eric and Hunter discuss that transition, and why Eric is optimistic about the future given the strong support from the legislature and Governor in this first budget cycle.    Guest Eric Fredericksen, The State Public Defender, Idaho   Resources: Idaho Public Defender Reports Idaho Public Defense Workload Study https://www.boisestate.edu/sps-ipi/our-research/idaho-public-defense-workload-study/   News about the Transition https://isb.idaho.gov/blog/the-state-public-defender-act-continuing-the-journey-of-public-defense-in-idaho-by-jordan-s-crane/ https://idahocapitalsun.com/2024/10/15/concerns-raised-about-idahos-new-public-defense-system-after-exodus-in-public-defenders/ https://blog.idahoreports.idahoptv.org/2024/09/16/public-defense-changeover-raises-concerns-for-some/ https://gov.idaho.gov/pressrelease/eric-fredericksen-to-lead-new-office-of-the-state-public-defender/ https://www.mtexpress.com/news/blaine_county/public-defense-transition-gets-off-to-rocky-start/article_1ac2a83a-8cc2-11ef-9f78-6ffe80dd4216.html https://blog.idahoreports.idahoptv.org/2024/10/23/judge-demands-answers-from-idaho-state-public-defender-after-defendants-left-without-counsel/ https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article297887643.html https://dailymontanan.com/2025/01/06/headed-for-a-disaster-aclu-asks-idaho-supreme-court-to-order-public-defense-system-reform/ News About Death Penalty in Idaho https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/idaho-governor-signs-legislation-authorizing-firing-squad-as-states-primary-execution-method https://idahocapitalsun.com/2025/03/17/idaho-house-unanimously-passes-child-sex-abuse-death-penalty-bill/ https://gov.idaho.gov/pressrelease/gov-littles-statement-on-death-penalty-for-pedophiles/           Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Hans Menos and Rob Kenter of the Center for Policing Equity. They sat down to discuss the successes their organization has had in trying create a more equitable legal system and understanding of how we can create safer communities.     Guest Hans Menos, VP Public Safety Innovations and Government Affairs, Center for Policing Equity Rob Kenter, Senior Director of Public Safety, Center for Policing   Resources: Center for Policing Equity https://policingequity.org/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=10276392455&gbraid=0AAAAACb2uw87ItPJ0G_93Si8AzxlC0WCD&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0qTCBhCmARIsAAj8C4ahIXfE1Rgj97RXl4rAs8f-QmLZ_fXFRtYpQ7oS9UjSONAw-5XNlXYaAoBgEALw_wcB https://www.instagram.com/policingequity/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/centerforpolicingequity/ https://www.facebook.com/CenterForPolicingEquity https://www.tiktok.com/@policingequity https://www.threads.com/@policingequity?hl=en https://www.youtube.com/@policingequity   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by two San Francisco Public Defenders, Sujung Kim and Lilah Wolf, to discuss their recent Racial Justice Act Victory. This California law was designed in part to give public defenders the tools to get explicit and implicit racism out of the criminal legal system. Today, we discussed how it came to be, why it needs to be in place, and how public defenders in California and around the country could be using it.     Guest Sujung Kim, Deputy Public Defender, San Francisco, California Lilah Wolf, Deputy Public Defender, San Francisco, California   Resources: Contact the SF Public Defender ttps://sfpublicdefender.org/ https://www.facebook.com/sfpublicdefender https://x.com/sfdefender https://www.instagram.com/sfpublicdefender/   Exhibits from the Trial https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Qd5HC8wB7HuV_xoh6fHLQwRMmybJWShD?usp=sharing   Read More About the Case https://sfpublicdefender.org/news/2025/03/10462/ https://davisvanguard.org/2025/03/san-francisco-public-defenders-win-landmark-racial-justice-act-case/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by two former police officers turned defense witness experts. Christina Sally and Chris Bertram joined the show to discuss their insights into the many ways in which police officers mess up the investigations into claims of child sexual assault cases. Guest Christina Sally PhD, Consultant, Defense Expert Witness, Retired Law Enforcement Officer Chris Bertram, Retired Chief of Police, Associate Professor, Defense Expert Witness Resources: Email Christina christinasallyphd@gmail.com https://www.drchristinasallyphd.com/ Email Chris chris@tbertramgroup.com https://www.tbertramgroup.com/team.php Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Los Angeles County Chief Public Defender Ricardo Garcia. This time, they discuss how the new LA County DA is trying to bring back the death penalty and the impact of Prop 36 and the Los Angeles Wildfires on Public Defenders and their clients.   Guest Ricardo Garcia, The Public Defender of Los Angeles County, California Resources: Contact the LA County Public Defender https://pubdef.lacounty.gov/ https://www.instagram.com/lapubdef/ https://www.facebook.com/LACOUNTYPD/ https://x.com/lapubdef https://www.linkedin.com/company/lapubdef LA DA Brings Back Death Penalty https://lacounty.gov/2025/03/25/los-angeles-public-defender-denounces-the-district-attorneys-decision-to-revive-the-death-penalty/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/26/los-angeles-da-death-penalty Prop 36 https://lao.ca.gov/handouts/crimjust/2025/Fiscal-Impacts-of-Proposition-36-022525.pdf https://www.ppic.org/blog/early-implementation-of-prop-36-varies-widely-across-counties/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again Elisabeth Pollock and for the first time Stephanie Kollmann. On today's episode, the three discuss the Fair Act in Illinois. This pending piece of legislation is set to be the first step for the state of Illinois to provide statewide support to Public Defense. Will it happen? Why is it necessary? All that and more on today's episode.   Guest Elisabeth Pollock, Chief Public Defender, Champagne County, Illinois Stephanie Kollmann, Policy Director, Children Family Justice Center, Northwestern University School of Law   Resources: Sixth Amendment Center Illinois https://6ac.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/6AC_illinois_report_2021.pdf Task Force Report https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/News/1378/Court-shining-light-on-the-need-for-indigent-defense-reform/news-detail/ Fair Act https://fairactil.org/ https://ilpublicdefenderstats.org/fairact/ Contact Stephanie https://www.law.northwestern.edu/legalclinic/cfjc/aboutus/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by the Chief Public Defender for South Carolina's 9th Circuit, Cameron Blazer. This time, we discuss workload issues in her Circuit and how a new bail laws and immigration enforcement are making matters worse.   Guest Cameron Blazer, Circuit Public Defender, 9th Circuit, Charleston and Berkley, South Carolina   Resources: Email Cameron Here CBlazer@charlestoncounty.org SCCID https://sccid.sc.gov/ Bond Laws https://www.postandcourier.com/news/special_reports/bond-reform-law-one-year-impact-south-carolina-violent-crime/article_c1b6a062-3220-11ef-b36b-178c43f76495.html https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess125_2023-2024/bills/3532.htm   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Professor Andrew Crespo to continue the conversation about how we can improve how criminal law is taught. On this episode, we dive into the new criminal law text book that Andrew and his co-author, John Rappaport, recently published to learn a better way to teach criminal law.   Guest Andrew Crespo, Professor of Law, Morris Wasserstein Public Interest Professor of Law Executive Faculty Director, Institute to End Mass Incarceration, Harvard University   Resources: Andrew's Faculty Page https://hls.harvard.edu/faculty/andrew-m-crespo/ Andrew and John's Book https://aspenpublishing.com/products/crespo-criminallawamericanpenalsys?srsltid=AfmBOoqnaBc-2_PBCEJcaHFiEERzwgSJJwMWFPTXMtAl3xkWozObifci   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Professor Alice Ristroph for the first of a two-part focus on how and why we teach Criminal Law the way we do. On today's episode, Hunter and Alice explore the historical roots of criminal law teaching, critique it, and discuss ways in which we can improve how criminal law is taught to law students.   Guest Alice Ristroph, Professor of Law, Brooklyn Law School   Resources: Contact Alice Here https://www.brooklaw.edu/contact-us/ristroph-alice/writings/ Read Alice's Law Review Article https://brooklynworks.brooklaw.edu/faculty/1257/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Mano Raju, the Elected Chief Public Defender in San Francisco. In the past couple of weeks, Mano made the difficult decision to stop accepting new case assignments one day a week. Thanks to the tough on crime policies of DA Brooke Jenkins and Prop 36, the workloads for San Francisco Public Defenders have reach unsustainable numbers. How did we get here, what comes next, and will this be a harbinger of things to come in California? All that and more on today's episode.   Guest Mano Raju, Chief Public Defender, San Francisco, California   Resources: Coverage of the Office https://sfstandard.com/2025/05/09/public-defender-fentanyl-san-francisco-lurie/ https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/sf-public-defender-caseload-20329216.php   Contact Mano or the Office manohar.raju@sfgov.org https://sfpublicdefender.org/ https://www.facebook.com/sfpublicdefender https://x.com/sfdefender https://www.instagram.com/sfpublicdefender/ https://bsky.app/profile/manorajupd.bsky.social https://x.com/manorajupd?lang=en     Pictures of Beans https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1feblbsr1Nc4m-LrM4exCO3PyCM4v4ke7?usp=drive_link     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Bob Kolstad, Maggie Bott, and Olivia Henstein to discuss why they are pushing Minnesota Public Defenders to create a new, independent union. In the past few years, the current union, organize under Teamsters, was able to secure massive salary raises for Public Defenders around the state. However, that strike threat was built without much help or support from the leadership of the Teamster's union. As a result, rank and file members, public defenders and the staff of the offices, are considering starting their own public defender lead union.   Guest Bob Kolstad, Public Defender, Hennepin County, Minnesota Maggie Bott, Public Defender, Hennepin County, Minnesota Olivia Henstein, Paralegal, Hennepin County, Minnesota   Resources: Check out UDAM Here https://uniteddefenseadvocatesminnesota.org/   Email Bob bob@robertkolstad.com Email Maggie mabott95@gmail.com Email Olivia olhenstein@yahoo.com     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by longtime Louisiana Criminal Defense Lawyer and President of the Louisiana Association of Criminal Defense Lawyer, Jim Boren. Over the past year, Hunter has discussed the erosion of public defender independence since Remy Starns became the chief public defender of the state. Now, Remy Starns is slated to fire five chief public defenders from around the state who opposed some of the policies that consolidated power into his hands. Today's episode is all about how this has happened and what the criminal defense bat should do in response.   Guest Jim Boren, President, Louisiana Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers   Resources: Email Jim jim@jamesboren.com Coverage of the Firings https://lailluminator.com/2025/05/09/louisiana-lawmakers-deny-state-public-defenders-power-grab-again/ https://lailluminator.com/2025/04/08/louisiana-bill-might-thwart-local-public-defenders-fighting-to-keep-their-jobs/ https://www.nola.com/news/courts/5-louisiana-chief-public-defenders-to-lose-their-jobs/article_09b183a6-011e-11f0-9b21-3746a0d291e9.html https://www.richlandtoday.com/article/459,public-defenders-defend-themselves-against-firings https://www.kalb.com/2025/03/20/louisiana-public-defenders-accuse-state-official-violating-their-free-speech/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by a whole host of characters from the Missouri Public Defender System. When Hunter last looked into Missouri Public Defense, he spoke with Annie Legomsky to discuss the remarkable project of implementing Holistic Defense statewide. As one of the only statewide systems with holistic defense, Missouri stands as a great example of how finding creative sources of funding can allow Public Defenders to demonstrate to legislators the potential Public Defense has to improve the community once it has the funding to work outside of the four corners of the court room.      Guest Mary Fox, Chief Public Defender, Missouri Kellie Duckering, District Defender, Carthage, Missouri Camille Iorio, Disposition Specialist, Child Defense Team, St. Louis, Missouri Ben Greene, Mitigation Specialist, Springfield, Missouri Mae Redmond, Client Advocate, Partners for Justice Mikayla Kitchen, Holistic Advocate, Missouri     Resources: Listen to My Episode w/Annie Here https://open.spotify.com/episode/3vJByEFrCzPreZ1uEJ6Syc?si=_3kujCGWT7mgKrElVJ_gHQ&nd=1&dlsi=07c74dd5ccd94d61 Contact the Missouri Public Defender Here https://publicdefender.mo.gov/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Anthony Benedetti, Chief Counsel of the Massachusetts Committee for Public Counsel Services. This time, Hunter and Anthony dive into what can be done about the low hourly rates for CPCS's contract counsel and how recent courage from the bench and the state house gives them hope that those pay increases are in fact possible.     Guest Anthony Benedetti, Chief Counsel, Massachusetts Committee for Public Counsel Services   Resources: CPCS Website https://www.publiccounsel.net/ Listen to my first episode with Anthony Here https://open.spotify.com/episode/3OxwnFFjrC1ruJPSDFywp5?autoplay=true       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter was joined by Ivery Dorsey, a man who for the last 18 years was incarcerated for a homicide he did not commit. On a previous episode on the show, Hunter spoke with one of the students, Kerrie Liang, who have been fighting to prove Ivery's innocence, but today, Ivery joins the show to tell his story. From the representation he received, the conditions of his confinement, and how he hopes to pursue his dreams of shoe design and music production, Ivery's hope for a better future is contagious.   Guest Ivery Dorsey, Musician, Shoe Designer, and Formerly Wrongfully Incarcerated   Resources: Find Ivery's Work Here https://www.instagram.com/bringiveryhome/ https://linktr.ee/iverydorsey?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaeLW1kjxY7sK62kuTiLNcatd3fyDP_Ef7irRMROOrygT6fcCLGeJSEVDP_kbg_aem_eBajaBuFJnQ9L3y15JR3jw Read More About the Story Here https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2025/02/princeton-news-broadfocus-making-an-exoneree-course-frees-third-person-ivery-dorsey     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Harris County, Texas Chief Public Defender Alex Bunin. Just over a decade ago, Public Defense in Harris County looked like it did in most of the state. A group of private defense counsel contracted with the county to provide Public Defense. Unfortunately, Harris County was not spared of the many, well documented issues, with a primarily privately contracted public defense system. Then the county established the Public Defender Office, and since then, Alex and his team have gradually started taking on more cases and expanding the definition of what Public Defense is.   Guest Alex Bunin, Chief Public Defender, Harris County, Texas   Resources:   Harris County Public Defender Website https://hcpdo.org/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter sat with Josh Occhiogrosso-Schwartz, a Principal at the Wren Collective, to discuss their recent report on flat rate Public Defender contracts in California. Long time listeners of the show will recall that the American Bar Association discourages the use of flat rate fees because of the negative economic incentive it creates for the attorneys working under those contracts. In what will come as a surprise to no one who studies Public Defense, the Wren Collective examined the 24 counties in California who utilized flat rate contracts for their Public Defender needs, and they found a system that wholly failed to protect the right to counsel. From a lack of investigators to minimal oversight over specific attorneys, these flat rate contracts are failing the counties in California. Fortunately, there is a bill pending in the state that may see the use of these contracts come to an end.   Guest Josh Occhiogrosso-Schwartz, Principal, The Wren Collective   Resources:   Read the Report Here: https://www.wrencollective.org/_files/ugd/8fe8f0_71aac7e039fd4ee695ec6c8736cd1b72.pdf Contact Josh Here josh.occhiogrosso-schwartz@wrencollective.com Follow the Bill (AB690) Here https://aclucalaction.org/bill/ab-690/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Julie Ciccolini, the CEO of Techtivist. When she was working as a paralegal at the NY Legal Aid Society, Julie, like so many in a Public Defender Office, realized that there was immense amounts of data on police misconduct that was going un-used. So, Julie helped to set up a database that allowed Public Defenders to track and use this data in their cases. Realizing that this issue extended far beyond New York, Julie founded Techtivist as a way to help Public Defenders set up and utilize databases that keep track of police misconduct.     Guest Julie Ciccolini, CEO, Techtivist   Resources:   Check out Techtivist Here https://www.techtivist.com/ Read the Blue Wall of Silence Report Here https://www.nacdl.org/Document/DismantlingtheBlueWallofSilenceTrackLawEnfMiscond   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter sat down with Zachary Heiden, Carol Garvan, and Professor Eve Primus to discuss the ACLU of Maine's major victory in the fight to change Maine's Public Defense. Since the Sixth Amendment Center's report came out years ago, one thing was clear about Public Defense in Maine: it was in a state of crisis. Now, there finally appears to be a path out of the crisis. Thanks in part to the lawsuit filed by the ACLU of Maine, the courage of public defenders, the judiciary, and the delayed but strong action of the legislature, Maine is on the path to Public Defender Offices around the state. On this episode, we discuss how this happened, why it was needed, and what other states can and should learn from this story.   Guest Carol Garvan, Legal Director, ACLU of Maine Zachary Heiden, Chief Counsel, ACLU of Maine Eve Primus, Professor of Law, University of Michigan   Resources:   Contact the ACLU of Maine Here https://www.aclumaine.org/en Read more about the decision here https://www.aclumaine.org/en/robbinsvictory#:~:text=A%20superior%20court%20ruled%20in,to%20end%20the%20ongoing%20crisis.&text=In%20April%202019%2C%20the%20Sixth,on%20public%20defense%20in%20Maine. 6AC Report https://6ac.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/6AC_me_report_2019.pdf Professor Primus's Faculty Page https://michigan.law.umich.edu/faculty-and-scholarship/our-faculty/eve-brensike-primus   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is Re-Releasing his episode with Professor of Law Corinna Lain becuase her book, Secretes of the Killing State: The Untold Story of Lethal Injection, is now available! If you haven't listened already or picked up a copy of the book, now is great time to remember the hisotry of lethal injection and what that history means for the death peanlty today! https://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Killing-State-Untold-Injection/dp/1479832960   Today, Hunter spoke with Law Professor Corinna Lain to discuss her career of research around the death penalty and lethal injection. While it may seem strange to hyper focus on lethal injection, there is something to be said about understanding how and why lethal injection became the defacto method for state sanctioned murder. When lethal injection was offered to the American people, it was designed to do one simple thing: hide the reality of state sponsored murder. So long as people could look away from the violence of the state, they could place execution out of mind. In doing so, the practice could continue in relative secrecy. Today's episode is about lifting the shroud on that secrecy to examine the way the lethal injection is just as, if not more, violent, cruel, and unusual and any other form of execution.     Guests: Corrina Lain, SD Roberts and Sandra Moore Professor of Law, Richmond School of Law Resources: Can Europe end the Death Penalty? https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/02/can-europe-end-the-death-penalty-in-america/283790/ US Botched Executions https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions/botched-executions Execution of Clayton Lockett https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/13/botched-oklahoma-execution-clayton-lockett-bloody-mess  Corinna Lain Faculty Page https://law.richmond.edu/faculty/clain/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke Massachusetts Criminal Defense Lawyer Murat Erkan. Recently, Murat represented Wilson Martell-Lebron in a criminal trial in Boston Municipal Court. Martell-Lebron faced two felony charges related to accusations that he lied on his driver's license application. At its core, this case was an accusation that Martell-Lebron was an undocumented immigrant. However, Martell-Lebron never got to vindicate his innocence because the Suffolk County DA, the police involved in the case, and an ICE agent conspired to abducted Martell-Lebron in the middle of his trial. This episode is a wild documentation of a conspiracy to subvert a man's right to trial.   Guest Murat Erkan, Partner and Criminal Defense Lawyer, Erkan Sullivan PC, Massachusetts   Resources:   Google Drive Containing the Court Filings https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pegoD0V5gEFXZqcsMQKOYcu9s1_AX3JV?usp=sharing Coverage Once the Federal Court got the Contempt https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/ice-agent-contempt-boston-trial-arrest/#:~:text=Boston%20Municipal%20Court%20Judge%20Mark,to%20bring%20charges%20against%20Sullivan. https://apnews.com/article/ice-immigration-arrest-trial-contempt-8b35498ddd96ccf1bc3ff772e6ef5106 https://apnews.com/article/boston-immigration-ice-municipal-court-due-process-f2d13626ffba28025a3e0314fa6ca908     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Damon Drake, Executive Director of We Resolve Minnesota, a participatory defense organization out of the twin cities. As is the case in our discussion about participatory defense, Damon joins the show to discuss the successes and challenges of trying to get Public Defenders onboard with the participatory defense.   Guest Damon Drake, Executive Director, We Resolve Minnesota   Resources:   Learn more about We Resolve Here https://weresolve-mn.com/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Heather Rogers and Caitlin Becker of the Santa Cruz County Public Defenders. In 2020, the Sixth Amendment Center put together a report detailing the severe issues with how Santa Cruz County provided Public Defense. At the time, a law firm was working a flat rate fee contract to provide public defender services in the county. As is expected, that system was deeply flawed and couldn't meet the demands of the Sixth Amendment. Fast forward five years, Heather, Caitlin, and the team at the Santa Cruz County Public Defender has transformed the office into a comprehensive holistic defender program. How did that happen? What are the benefits of this model? All those questions and more on today's episode!   Guest Heather Rogers, The Public Defender, Santa Cruz County, California Caitlin Becker, Director of Holistic Defense, Santa Cruz County, California   Resources:   Read the 6AC Report Here https://6ac.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/6AC_ca_santacruzcountyreport_2020.pdf Contact Santa Cruz County Public Defenders Here https://www.santacruzdefenders.us/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-rogers-3525b4242/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtvUi9TWRyNIOvEwgHN87KA https://www.facebook.com/CruzDefenders# https://www.instagram.com/cruzdefender/ https://x.com/cruzdefender     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home     Guest Heather Rogers, The Public Defender, Santa Cruz County, California Caitlin Becker, Director of Holistic Defense, Santa Cruz County, California   Resources:   Read the 6AC Report Here https://6ac.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/6AC_ca_santacruzcountyreport_2020.pdf Contact Santa Cruz County Public Defenders Here https://www.santacruzdefenders.us/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-rogers-3525b4242/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtvUi9TWRyNIOvEwgHN87KA https://www.facebook.com/CruzDefenders# https://www.instagram.com/cruzdefender/ https://x.com/cruzdefender     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with journalist Piper French about the wrongful conviction of Jimmie "Chris" Duncan. In 1998, Duncan was convicted of murdering his girlfriend's 23-month-old daughter. Originally, Duncan was charged with negligent homicide as it appeared his story, that he stepped away for a few minutes while the child took a bath and then she fell and drowned, was accurate. However, the notorious peddler of the junk science bite mark "evidence," Dr. Michael West, conducted a dubious autopsy where he pressed a mould of Duncan's teeth into the body of the girl. With this dubious autopsy and the help of a jail house snitch, the state convicted Duncan of capital murder. Since then, Duncan has been fighting to prove his innocence, but with Governor Jeff Landry's drive to increase the number of executions in the Louisiana, Duncan might never get the chance.     Guest Piper French, Part Time Staff Writer at Bolt Magazine, Freelance Journalist   Resources: Read the Article Here https://boltsmag.org/the-human-cost-of-jeff-landrys-drive-to-resume-executions/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/03/louisiana-execution-bolts-chris-duncan-jeff-landry-death-row-capital-punishment/  Read more by Piper Here https://www.psfrench.com/ Contact Piper piperstrehlowfrench@gmail.com https://x.com/pipersfrench https://bsky.app/profile/psfrench.bsky.social Read more About Duncan's Case Here https://innocenceproject.org/petitions/stop-the-execution-of-an-innocent-man-jimmie-chris-duncan/ https://www.propublica.org/article/louisiana-jimmie-duncan-bite-mark-analysis-death-row-junk-science   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter sat down with Heather Lewis a participatory defense organizer and the Executive Director of the Reuniting Family Bail Fund. Unlike many places where participatory defense hubs have been set up, Montgomery County Public Defenders welcomed participatory defense with open arms. Today, we will see the benefit of having an activated community when policy makers retaliate against public defenders.   Guest Heather Lewis, Reuniting Family Bail Fund, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania   Resources:   Reuniting Family Bail Fund Websites and Socials https://bailfundmontco.org/ https://www.youtube.com/@reunitingfamilybailfund https://www.instagram.com/familybailfund/ https://x.com/familybailfund https://www.facebook.com/reunitingfamilybailfund Coverage of Retaliation Against Montgomery County Public Defenders https://www.inquirer.com/news/montgomery-county-public-defenders-fired-lawsuit-keisha-hudson-dean-beer-20200318.html#:~:text=Fired%20public%20defenders%20sue%2C%20alleging%20Montgomery%20County%20retaliated%20for%20bail%20practice%20criticism. https://www.inquirer.com/news/montgomery-county-public-defenders-commissioners-protest-dean-beer-keisha-hudson-20200305.html https://theappeal.org/pennsylvania-public-defenders-not-reinstated-despite-public-outcry-over-firing/#:~:text=Montgomery%20County%20Chief%20Public%20Defender,Photo%20courtesy%20of%20ACLU%20Pennsylvania. https://www.aclupa.org/en/press-releases/aclu-pa-statement-response-dismissal-montgomery-county-chief-and-deputy-public     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter sat down with Civil Rights lawyers Darold Killmer and Maddie Lips to discuss a tragic case. James Purdy, a 76 year old man with dementia and Parkinson's, was arrested after a women alleged he attempted to kidnap her. When he was arrested, Purdy incredibly frail condition was obvious and his family insisted he be kept on his essential medication. Unfortunately, the Jefferson Count Jail staff did not comply with this request. Over his multi-week pretrial incarceration, Purdy was recorded falling around 100 times, and ultimately, these falls left him with injuries that would lead to his death.   Guest Darold Killmer, Partner, Killmer Lane Civil Rights Litigation, Denver, CO Maddie Lips, Associate, Killmer Lane Civil Rights Litigation, Denver, CO   Resources:   Contact Killmer Lane https://killmerlane.com/ Contact Darold and Maddie mlips@killmerlane.com dkillmer@killmerlane.com   Read More About James Purdy's Case https://www.denver7.com/news/local-news/family-of-man-with-dementia-files-federal-lawsuit-after-his-2023-death-in-jefferson-county-jail https://www.9news.com/article/news/investigations/9news-investigates-arrest-death-jim-purdy/73-091a289f-4dbe-47cb-99a6-10ba61a141b0     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Emmy Award winning documentarian and investigative journalist, Gianna Toboni to discuss her new book The Volunteer: The Failure of the Death Penalty and One Inmate's Quest to Die with Dignity. In this book, Gianna tells the story of Scott Dozier. He was on death row in Nevada for two separate homicide convictions, but despite him volunteering to be executed, forces both inside and outside of the prison prevented the state from executing him. Ultimately, Dozier took his own life after a few weeks on a mental health, solitary confinement hold. How did this all happen and what can we learn about the death penalty in America? All those questions and more in today's episode.   Guest Gianna Toboni, Documentarian, Investigative Journalist, Author of The Volunteer   Resources:   Pick up a Copy of the Book Here https://www.simonandschuster.biz/search/books/Author-Gianna-Toboni/Category-Law/_/N-1z0v8eyZh3kZm2st/Ne-pgt?options[sort]=BOOK_ORDER%7C0%7C%7CTITLE%7C0 https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-volunteer-gianna-toboni/1145681921 Follow Gianna On Socials https://bsky.app/profile/giannatoboni.bsky.social https://www.instagram.com/giannatoboni/?hl=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/gianna-toboni-970174272/ https://x.com/GiannaToboni?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Gianna's Work at Vice (Including Interview's with Dozier) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw613M86o5o6ig6LRdAL5W_w7w1k_UeQ5     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Criminal Defense Lawyer Blake Weiner about a wrongful conviction case he has been working on. Blake's client, Marcus Cooper was charged with rape and strangulation in two separate counties in Virginia. At the first trial, evidence came to light that the complaining witness was lying about pictures she provided to the Commonwealth that she claimed proved her accusations. This trial resulted in a mistrial, and ultimately the charges were dismissed. At the second trial, which featured the same witness and the same charges, the complaining witness once again provided fabricated evidence to try and convict Mr. Cooper. However, the judge in this case determined that Blake could not bring up these repeated instances of evidence fabrication, and as a result, Mr. Cooper was convicted. Blake helps us understand how a judge could stop a defense lawyer from challenging the credibility of a person who has demonstrated a willingness to lie about his client.   Guest Blake Weiner, Criminal Defense Lawyer, Virginia   Resources: Contact Blake https://blakeweinerlaw.com/   Read the Docs from the Case Here https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uZd16LUpCFJwHVrR6eF4sPxs1D91406s?usp=sharing     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Kristen Rome the Executive Director of the Louisiana Center for Children's Rights. Last fall, Hunter spoke with another member of LCCR about the policies pursued by Governor Jeff Landry to make it easier for the state to criminalize young people. Sadly, today's episode is on the same topic. Up for a vote on March 29th, Louisiana's Amendment Three is a Constitutional Amendment that would give the legislature nearly unlimited power to get young people prosecuted in the adult legal system. Kristen joins the show to help explain what the amendment is, how it got on the ballot, and why people should vote no!   Guest Kristen Rome, Executive Director, Louisiana Center for Children's Rights   Resources:   Find LCCR's Work Here https://lakidsrights.org/ https://www.facebook.com/lakidsrights https://x.com/LAKidsRights https://www.instagram.com/LAKidsRights Vote No On Three https://www.noon3la.org/ Laws Targeting Mostly Black Parishes https://apnews.com/article/juvenile-records-louisiana-e95896fcc0ca3e1a8d92409a345ad706     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with former Public Defender and current Criminal Defense Lawyer Amy Parker about a shocking wrongful conviction case. Normally, Public Defenders find themselves working in opposition of Child Protective Services workers. So when a former CPS worker reached out to Amy, admit that an innocent man was incarcerated, Amy knew there was a serious injustice happening. Through her work, she was able to exonerate Mr. Ezquiel Apolo-Albino and stop his deportation, but how did he end up wrongfully convicted for molesting his children? Based on Amy's tireless work, it appears we know the answer.   Guest Amy Parker, Criminal Defense Lawyer and Former Public Defender, Washington   Resources: Read the Full Motion for a New Trial Here https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kv6yaxs9vInHBj5X4cBbLzWHOZR69Ucr?usp=drive_link   National Register of Exonerees https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=5014   More on Mr. Apolo Albino https://www.law.uw.edu/news-events/news/2024/justice-for-the-wrongfully-convicted   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Nayna Gupta of the American Immigration Council. This conversation covers a recent slate of Trump Administration Immigration Policies that are a naked power grab by the President so he can detain and deport whoever he wants, whenever he wants, and however he wants without due process of law. Specifically, Nayna walks us through how the Alien Enemies Act, the designation of several cartels as Foreign Terrorist Organizations, and the new Immigration Registration requirement will work in concert to grant the President nearly limitless power to detain and deport people.   Guest Nayna Gupta, Policy Director, American Immigration Council   Resources: American Immigration Council Resources https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/ https://www.instagram.com/immcouncil/ https://x.com/immcouncil https://www.facebook.com/TheAmericanImmigrationCouncil/#   ILRC Red Cards https://www.ilrc.org/red-cards-tarjetas-rojas   Invocation of the Act https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/invocation-of-the-alien-enemies-act-regarding-the-invasion-of-the-united-states-by-tren-de-aragua/   Alien Enemies Act Explained https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/alien-enemies-act-explained https://www.justsecurity.org/109168/alien-enemies-act-litigation/   Judge Blocking the Act and Trump Ignoring the Order http://axios.com/2025/03/14/trump-alien-enemies-act-deportations https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-admin-ignores-judges-order-bring-deportation-planes/story?id=119857181 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/16/us/constitutional-crisis.htmlQ   Foreign Terrorist Organization Designation https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/designating-cartels-and-other-organizations-as-foreign-terrorist-organizations-and-specially-designated-global-terrorists/   Registration Requirements https://www.uscis.gov/alienregistration   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Anna Ramirez Zarate and Lourdes Best of the San Mateo Chapter of Silicon Valley De-Bug. On today's episode, we will hear about how the community views the criminal legal system, the Private Defender Program in San Mateo, and how they felt about the harmful, racist emails sent by some members of PDP.   Guest Ana Ramirez Zarate, Community and Participatory Defense Organizer, Silicon Valley De-Bug Lourdes Best, Community and Participatory Defense Organizer, Silicon Valley De-Bug Resources: SVDB Socials https://www.youtube.com/user/DeBugTV https://www.siliconvalleydebug.org/ https://www.instagram.com/sv_debug/?hl=en https://x.com/svdebug?lang=en Complaint with CRC https://civilrightscorps.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/San-Mateo-Petitioners-Additional-Brief7.2022.pdf   Reports about PDP https://sanmateo.courts.ca.gov/system/files/private_defender_program.pdf https://www.smcgov.org/media/2466/download?inline= https://sanmateo.courts.ca.gov/system/files/balance_scale_of_justice.pdf https://6ac.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Harvey-M.-Rose-Associates-San-Mateo-County-Evaluation-Jan.-2022-2.pdf Emails About Silicon Valley De-Bug https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/09/23/after-san-mateo-court-complaint-civil-rights-group-is-profanely-assailed-in-secret-by-their-supposed-allies/ https://x.com/svdebug/status/1838380292765327581   *** Note on the Episode**** Following my conversation with Lisa and Harpreet flat rate fees in the PDP, Lisa informed me that the Office of the State Public Defender in California released Standards for Contract Panels. They discourage any flat fee compensation. As a result, Lisa will now be working with the county to move away from the flat rate fees towards an all-hourly compensation rate. New Standards Can be Found Here https://www.ospd.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/CA-Standards_ContractPanelDefense.pdf         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Lisa Maguire and Harpreet Samra of the San Mateo County Private Defender Program. Unlike the normal contract Public Defender model, the PDP operates as a managed assigned counsel system. As the Chief Defender, Lisa, manages a group of private contractors who handle the Public Defender needs of the county. This grants here significantly more oversight than in a traditional Private Defender System. Harpreet is the lead for the PDP's Social Worker program, and she ensures attorneys connect with Social Workers in their cases. From each of their areas of expertise, Lisa and Harpreet are working to correct the issues documented with PDP over the years. While their work has the PDP moving in a positive direction, the presence of flat rate fee compensation and the fall out from a series of insulting, racist emails sent by former PDP members leave Lisa and Harpreet with an ongoing battle to earn the trust back of the community they serve.   Guest Lisa Maguire, Chief Defender, Private Defender Program, San Mateo County, CA Harpreet Samra, Social Worker Lead, Private Defender Program, San Mateo County, CA   Resources: Contact Lisa and Harpreet lisam@smcba.org harpreets@smcba.org PDP Website https://www.smcgov.org/private-defender-program Past Reports on San Mateo https://sanmateo.courts.ca.gov/system/files/private_defender_program.pdf https://www.smcgov.org/media/2466/download?inline= https://sanmateo.courts.ca.gov/system/files/balance_scale_of_justice.pdf https://6ac.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Harvey-M.-Rose-Associates-San-Mateo-County-Evaluation-Jan.-2022-2.pdf Emails About Silicon Valley De-Bug https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/09/23/after-san-mateo-court-complaint-civil-rights-group-is-profanely-assailed-in-secret-by-their-supposed-allies/ https://x.com/svdebug/status/1838380292765327581   *** Note on the Episode**** Following my conversation with Lisa and Harpreet flat rate fees in the PDP, Lisa informed me that the Office of the State Public Defender in California released Standards for Contract Panels. They discourage any flat fee compensation. As a result, Lisa will now be working with the county to move away from the flat rate fees towards an all-hourly compensation rate. New Standards Can be Found Here https://www.ospd.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/CA-Standards_ContractPanelDefense.pdf         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with two defense lawyers handling the USS Cole case out of Guantanamo Bay. Allison Miller and Katie Carmon are two of the defense counsel on the al-Nashiri, and last fall, they thought that after more than two decades of pre trial confinement, the cases would finally end when they entered into a plea negotiation with the government. Unfortunately, then Secretary of Defense Loyd Austin exercised undue and unlawful command influence by terminating the agreements. Now with a new administration, what is next for the never ending cases at Guantanamo Bay?   Guest Allison Miller, Learned Counsel for Abdul Rahim al-Nashiri Katie Carmon, Supervising Defense Counsel for the al-Nashiri Team   Resources: Coverage of the Plea Deals https://www.npr.org/2025/01/09/nx-s1-5252462/guantanamo-9-11-khalid-sheikh-mohammed-plea-deal https://apnews.com/article/guantanamo-plea-deal-911-austin-death-penalty-073c3455e27ecbfd0f7dd524ccffdef3 https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/court-rules-signed-plea-agreements-with-three-of-the-9-11-defendants-are-valid-and-must-go-into-effect https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/30/us/politics/911-case-plea-deals.html https://www.cbsnews.com/news/appeals-court-plea-agreements-911-architect-khalid-sheikh-mohammed/ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/31/us-military-court-clears-way-for-possible-plea-deals-for-9-11 https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/Secreary-Austin's-Fateful-GTMO-Plea-Deals-Decision https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/28/us/politics/defense-secretary-plea-deals.html https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/defense-secretary-overrides-plea-agreement-for-9-11-defendants-reinstates-as-death-penalty-cases   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Travis Weiner the former Colorado Public Defender suing the State Public Defender for wrongful termination. As a Colorado Public Defender, Travis reached a point where he estimated he would need more than 4,000 hours to complete the cases assigned to him. At that point, Travis believed he had an ethical obligation to withdraw from a newly assigned case. Unfortunately, the Colorado State Public Defender did not support him. Instead, they fired him. Now he is suing the state for alleged retaliation.   Guest Travis Weiner, Former Colorado State Public Defender and Current Public Defender, Taos, New Mexico   Resources:    Articles about Travis's Law Suit https://www.denverpost.com/2024/11/26/colorado-public-defender-retaliation-caseload-lawsuit-travis-weiner/ https://denvergazette.com/news/courts/colorado-public-defender-whistleblower-lawsuit/article_5dc51520-a908-11ef-8c41-9795a3756d99.html https://www.cpr.org/2024/11/26/former-colorado-public-defender-files-whistleblower-suit-high-caseload/ Read Travis's Motion, Compliant and My Complaint and Affidavit Here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1oz0-_Yi6EMqoh7s6f2a7xdrW-_28L1dv?usp=sharing   I have reached out for comment from OSPD in regards to Travis and my complaints. At this time, OSPD did not respond for comment. Last year, they sent me the following comment on Travis's complaint    "On behalf of OSPD, thank you for the invitation and concern regarding public defense in Colorado. Rules governing confidentiality, attorney-client privilege, and employee privacy prevent us from discussing individual cases, particular motions, or a defender's practice. We are committed to ensuring that our clients receive high quality representation and will continue to support the defenders who do that work."       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Professor Daniel Loehr to discuss his research on the Eugenics Origin of Habitual Offender Laws. While many people hear habitual offender laws and think of the three strikes laws from the tough on crime era of the 1990's, Daniel reveals that the history of these laws traces back to a much earlier and darker time in our nation's history. Daniel lays out how America's Eugenics movement wanted habitual offender laws to act as a way to stop certain populations from procreating, and what we as a society should do with these laws given their history.   Guest Daniel Loehr, Professor of Law, City University of New York School of Law   Resources: Contact Daniel daniel.loehr@law.cuny.edu https://www.law.cuny.edu/faculty/directory/daniel-loehr/ Daniel Files an Amicus Brief in Colorado https://law.yale.edu/yls-today/news/amicus-brief-offers-history-habitual-criminal-laws-and-their-origins Daniel's Article  https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5159292     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Amanda Jack and Kalle Condliffe of the New York Legal Aid Society about the fight to save Kalief's Law. This law, passed in 2020, aimed to create much needed reforms to evidence discovery in criminal trials. Naturally, prosecutors have hated new requirements for disclosure, and they have attempted to get the laws peeled back before they even went in place. Now with the help of Governor Hochul, prosecutors are once again trying to get these laws repealed so they can return to their preferred practice, trail by ambush.      Guest Amanda Jack, Policy Director, Criminal Defense Practice, New York Legal Aid Society Kalle Condliffe, Supervising Attorney, New York Legal Aid Society Resources: Protect Kalief's Law Coalition https://protectkaliefslaw.com/ Email Amanda Amandajack@gmail.com Email Kalle kcondliffe@legal-aid.org   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Paul Chambers and James McDermott of the Far West Texas Public Defenders Office. This time, they joined to discuss how Paul discovered and James litigated a pattern and practice of discovery violations by the El Paso District Attorney's Office.     Guest James McDermott, Chief Public Defender, Far West Texas Regional Public Defender Paul Chambers, Deputy Chief Public Defender, Far West Texas Regional Public Defender Resources: Far West Texas Public Defender in the News https://elpasomatters.org/2024/12/15/el-paso-district-attorney-prosecutorial-misconduct-ruling/ Read the Transcripts Here https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12B3vAOl2yedDdFPUEkAzrrovbHnUdayB?usp=sharing                            Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Alexandra Bailey and Cindy Nguyen to discuss Oklahoma's Failure to Protect Laws. A few years back, Alexandra joined the show to discuss theses laws, and as a reminder, these laws allow for victims of domestic violence, mostly women, to be sentenced to longer jail sentences for failing to protect their children from abuse than the men who commit the abuse. Today, Cindy and Alexandra join the show to discuss the fight to reform these laws.   Guest Alexandra Bailey, Domestic Violence Survivor and Advocate Cindy Nguyen, Policy Director, Oklahoma ACLU Resources: SB 594: https://www3.oklegislature.gov/BillInfo.aspx?Bill=sb594&Session=2500   https://www.motherjones.com/criminal-justice/2022/08/failure-to-protect-domestic-abuse-child-oklahoma-women-inequality-prison/   https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/02/oklahoma-failure-to-protect-kerry-king-dave-rader/   ACLU-OK Research/Stats for FTP: 1 in 4 women convicted of failure to protect received sentences longer than the man convicted of abusing the child. 93% of those convicted under failure to protect are women. Almost half of the women convicted under failure to protect were experiencing domestic violence.   Key Stories: Tondalao Hall    Elizabeth Crafton    Kerry Lalehparvaran    ACLU of Oklahoma https://www.acluok.org/en       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Professor Justin Murray about his recent law review article, Prosecutorial Reform and the Myth of Individualized Enforcement. On several past episodes, Hunter has explored the field of Progressive Prosecution. As he has uncovered, much of the push back to these types of prosecutors is their decision not to prosecute certain types of crimes. Today, Justin is here to show how that critique does not comport with the history of prosecution, and he asks us to rethink how we understand how Progressive Prosecution should/does operate in our society.   Guest Justin Murray, Professor of Law, New York Law School   Resources: Justin's Faculty Page https://www.nyls.edu/faculty/justin-murray/ Law Review Article https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4932729   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home    Resgitser for the ABA Public Defense Summit Here https://events.americanbar.org/event/770bddad-346e-4f89-85f1-3e5b1d92b4ba/regProcessStep1

Today, Hunter spoke with Ann Block and Nithya Nathan-Pineau from the Immigrant Resource Legal Center to discuss the newest immigration related legislation, executive orders, and policies coming from the Trump administration. Starting with the Laken Riley act, Hunter, Ann, and Nithya walk through the ways in which the criminal and immigration legal systems are fusing together to target immigrants around the country.   Guest Ann Block, Senior Staff Attorney, Immigrant Resource Legal Center Nithya Nathan-Pineau, Policy Attorney and Strategist, Immigrant Resource Legal Center   Resources: Contact IRLC https://www.ilrc.org/ https://x.com/the_ilrc https://www.facebook.com/immigrantlegalresourcecenter https://www.linkedin.com/company/immigrant-legal-resource-center https://www.instagram.com/the_ilrc?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D https://www.tiktok.com/@the_ilrct=8mP0a8dAdtT&r=1 Laken Riley Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/5 https://www.ilrc.org/resources/laken-riley-act-juvenile-delinquency https://apnews.com/article/what-is-laken-riley-act-trump-immigration-2667d626139ddf5a16d1533516eab18f https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Laken_Riley At Around 1Hour and 7 minutes, Hunter spoke about the motivations of Eric Adams to support Trump's immigration policy. At the time of the record, Eric Adams was still facing a criminal charge. As of Feb 10, the charges against Eric Adams were dropped. In the memo to drop the charges, DOJ officials brought up that the charges needed to be dropped so Eric Adams wouldn't be restricted in solving immigration in NYC. https://apnews.com/article/eric-adams-indictment-109ef48bd49bc8adc1850709c99bf666 https://www.reuters.com/legal/justice-department-seeks-dismissal-charges-against-new-york-mayor-ny-times-says-2025-02-10/ https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/justice-department-moves-drop-case-new-york-city/story?id=118672417 (Dismissal Letter Found Here) Original Charges https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/new-york-city-mayor-eric-adams-charged-bribery-and-campaign-finance-offenses   People being Sent to GTMO https://www.cbsnews.com/news/guantanamo-bay-migrants-trump/ https://migrantinsider.com/p/air-jordan-tattoo-prompts-ice-to    Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Professor Alexis Hoag-Fordjour about two of her most recent law review articles. In her first, she argues for a new way of thinking about how we evaluate claims of ineffective assistance of counsel. In her second article, she makes the case for why public defense should be universally applied.   Guest Alexis Hoag-Fordjour, Professor of Law, Scholar in Residence, Co-Director Center for Criminal Justice, Brooklyn Law School Resources: Universal Public Defense https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5007431 Back to the Future: (Re)Constructing Ineffective Assistance of Counsel https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4772028   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home    Resgitser for the ABA Public Defense Summit Here https://events.americanbar.org/event/770bddad-346e-4f89-85f1-3e5b1d92b4ba/regProcessStep1

Today, Hunter spoke once again with Nikki Baszynski of the Wren Collective to talk about the Criminal Legal System in Cuyahoga County, Ohio. This time, they discussed an update about youth representation in the county, and they also did a deep dive into how the county jail is denying prisoners in person visits and recording their conversations with family.   Guest Nikki Baszynski, Principal, Wren Collective   Resources: Wren Collective Report https://www.wrencollective.org/_files/ugd/8fe8f0_72700fa56eda43d78203966a3fbff476.pdf Other Reporting on Cuyahoga County Jail Issues https://signalcleveland.org/cuyahoga-county-jail-death-medical-care/ https://signalcleveland.org/how-cuyahoga-county-jail-video-visitation-works/#:~:text=In%202020%2C%20the%20county%20ended,only%20virtual%20options%20to%20visit. https://signalcleveland.org/cuyahoga-county-has-no-plans-to-bring-back-in-person-visits-for-friends-and-family-at-the-jail/ https://signalcleveland.org/in-an-about-face-cuyahoga-county-is-now-considering-allowing-in-person-jail-visits/   Today, Hunter spoke once again with Nikki Baszynski of the Wren Collective to talk about the Criminal Legal System in Cuyahoga County, Ohio. This time, they discussed an update about youth representation in the county, and they also did a deep dive into how the county jail is denying prisoners in person visits and recording their conversations with family.   Guest Nikki Baszynski, Principal, Wren Collective   Resources: Wren Collective Report https://www.wrencollective.org/_files/ugd/8fe8f0_72700fa56eda43d78203966a3fbff476.pdf Other Reporting on Cuyahoga County Jail Issues https://signalcleveland.org/cuyahoga-county-jail-death-medical-care/ https://signalcleveland.org/how-cuyahoga-county-jail-video-visitation-works/#:~:text=In%202020%2C%20the%20county%20ended,only%20virtual%20options%20to%20visit. https://signalcleveland.org/cuyahoga-county-has-no-plans-to-bring-back-in-person-visits-for-friends-and-family-at-the-jail/ https://signalcleveland.org/in-an-about-face-cuyahoga-county-is-now-considering-allowing-in-person-jail-visits/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home    Resgitser for the ABA Public Defense Summit Here https://events.americanbar.org/event/770bddad-346e-4f89-85f1-3e5b1d92b4ba/regProcessStep1

Today, Hunter spoke once again with Heather Cessna, the Executive Director of the Kansas Board of Indigents' Defense Services. This time, Hunter and Heather discuss how Kansas Public Defense could be close to collapsing due to a lack of lawyers and a legislature that has yet to properly address the issue.   Guest Heather Cessna, Executive Director, Kansas Board of Indigents' Defense Services     Resources:   Contact KBDIS https://www.ksbids.gov/ Contact Heather hcessna@sbids.org Rural Justice Report https://kscourts.gov/Newsroom/News-Releases/News/2024-News-Releases/December-2024/Rural-Justice-Initiative-Committee-releases-report#:~:text=In%20its%20report%2C%20the%20committee,attorneys%20for%20every%201%2C000%20residents. KBIDS Wellness Report https://www.ksbids.gov/initiatives    Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home   Register for the ABA Public Defender Summit Here  https://events.americanbar.org/event/770bddad-346e-4f89-85f1-3e5b1d92b4ba/regProcessStep1

Today, Hunter spoke once again with Rob Poggenklass and Bryan Kennady from Justice Forward Virginia. Last year, Justice Forward Virginia joined the show to discuss the 2024 criminal justice policies being floated in Virginia. Today, Rob and Bryan are here to discuss what the 2025 legislative session has in store for criminal justice reform in Virginia.   Guest Rob Poggenklass, Executive Director, Justice Forward Virginia Bryan Kennedy, Public Defender, Fairfax County, Treasurer, Justice Forward Virginia   Resources: Justice Forward Virginia 2025 Legislative Priorities https://justiceforwardva.com/blog/2024/12/13/2025-virginia-general-assembly-legislative-priorities     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Kerrie Liang, a student at Princeton University, to discuss the wrongful conviction of Ivery Dorsey. Through her and classmates work at Princeton, Kerrie walks us through how the inconsistent eye witness testimony of one person ultimately led to the wrongful conviction of Ivery.   Guest Kerrie Liang, Student, Princeton University   Resources: More Resources about Ivery's Case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpV9qkt7JHM https://www.instagram.com/bringiveryhome/reel/CsKxrNrOGgy/ https://makinganexoneree.org/2023 https://www.gofundme.com/f/wrongfully-convictedlegal-help-for-ivery-dorsey https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/ivery-dorsey-case-princeton-students/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Hans Meyer and Holly Lucas to discuss a variety of topics at the intersection of the criminal legal and immigration systems. With the Trump administration poised to implement a policy of mass deportation, Hans and Holly offer insights into how they have worked in court rooms and the Colorado State Legislature to guide Colorado to more humane immigration policies.     Guest Holly Lucas, Public Defender, Colorado State Public Defender Hans Meyer, Criminal Defense and Immigration Lawyer, The Meyer Law Office   Resources: Contact Hans https://themeyerlawoffice.com/ Laken Riley Act https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-statement-on-senate-advancing-laken-riley-act-to-final-vote What to do if ICE shows up https://www.nilc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/EmployerGuide-NELP-NILC-2017-07-1.pdf https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/immigrants-rights   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Senior Reporter at The Appeal, Elizabeth Weill-Greenberg. A few weeks ago, Hunter was joined by Phil Wilayto of the Virginia Defender to talk about why prisoners of Virginia's Red Onion Prison were lighting themselves on fire. Today, Elizabeth joins to reveal how despite the public proclamations by DOC officials, prisoners were lighting themselves on fire all along.   Guest Elizabeth Weill-Greenberg, Senior Reporter, The Appeal   Resources: Follow Elizabeth https://x.com/elizabethweill https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:dld6gvzefnncxuiaccy2u3qn Read about Red Onion Prison https://theappeal.org/red-onion-virginia-prison-self-immolated/ https://www.vpm.org/news/2024-12-06/ekong-eshiet-kevin-rashid-johnson-red-onion-vadoc-wise-county https://virginiamercury.com/2025/01/09/rally-continues-call-for-investigation-into-red-onion-state-prison-presses-for-prison-reforms/ https://www.vpm.org/news/2025-01-10/red-onion-prison-incarceration-wise-county-pound-death-mike-jones https://www.prisonradio.org/news-update/red-onion-state-prison-update/ https://theappeal.org/virginia-prison-response-red-onion-self-immolation/ https://theappeal.org/prisoners-intentionally-burned-themselves-red-onion-state-prison-virginia/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter spoke with Professor Brittany Freidman about her new book Carceral Apartheid. In this book, Professor Freidman tells the story of the California Prison System, the racist violence the system permits to exist, and how the prison system used all of us power to crush the political arm of the Black Guerilla Family. Through this conversation, Hunter and Professor Freidman hope to demonstrate what our system does and does not permit to continue.   Guest Brittany Friedman, Professor of Sociology, University of Southern California     Resources: Pick up a Copy of Brittany's Book https://uncpress.org/book/9781469683409/carceral-apartheid/ COINTELPRO https://vault.fbi.gov/cointel-pro https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/federal-bureau-investigation-fbi   https://www.pbs.org/hueypnewton/actions/actions_cointelpro.html https://www.npr.org/2021/01/18/956741992/documentary-exposes-how-the-fbi-tried-to-destroy-mlk-with-wiretaps-blackmail https://www.lib.berkeley.edu/about/news/fbi https://www.brandeis.edu/writing-program/write-now/2018-2019/silverman-jacob/index.html https://ccrjustice.org/home/blog/2020/08/04/fbi-s-legacy-smearing-movements-terrorism-justify-suppression https://moguldom.com/448109/fact-check-before-malcolm-x-was-murdered-j-edgar-hoover-sent-message-do-something-about-malcolm-x/ https://www.upi.com/Archives/1969/07/16/J-Edgar-Hoover-Black-Panther-Greatest-Threat-to-US-Security/1571551977068/ https://onlineexhibits.library.yale.edu/s/black-panther-may-day/page/the-black-panthers-and-the-fb   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter sat down with Scott Troxell to wrap up our conversation on Colorado Municipal Courts. This time, the conversation focuses on how Rifle Municipal Courts were giving people 6 Months sentences for thefts that the state only gave 10 day sentences.    Guest Scott Troxell, Attorney, Glenwood Springs, Colorado   Resources: 2017 ACLU Report on Colorado Municipal Courts https://www.aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/JUSTICE-DERAILED-web.pdf Coverage of Municipal Courts in Rifle by Denver Post https://www.denverpost.com/2024/12/24/colorado-legislature-municipal-court-bills/ https://www.denverpost.com/2024/09/22/colorado-municipal-courts-sentences-minor-crime/ ACLU Amicus Brief https://www.aclu-co.org/en/cases/mobley-v-city-rifle-amicus Rifle Changes Ordinance https://www.coloradopolitics.com/courts/colorado-supreme-court-dimisses-appeal-after-rifle-backs-down/article_1ff3e57e-9e04-11ee-9a8a-6b95521cebde.html  Current Colorado Supreme Court Issues https://www.aclu-co.org/en/cases/camp-v-city-westminster-amicus   https://www.aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/field_documents/2024-11-07_aclu_cff_amicus_br.pdf  Contact Scott scott@troxell-legal.com      Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter sat down with longtime death penalty abolitionist activist Abraham Bonowitz. On previous episodes about death penalty abolition, the show has primarily focused on the successes and failures of the fight in the court room. Today however, Abe joins the show to discuss the types of media campaigns and coalition building that is necessary to fight and ultimately abolish the death penalty outside of the four corners of the court house. Guest Abraham Bonowitz, Executive Director, Death Penalty Action   Resources: Death Penalty Action contact https://deathpenaltyaction.org/ https://www.facebook.com/deathpenaltyaction https://x.com/DeathPenaltyAct https://www.instagram.com/deathpenaltyaction/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMW5q-nvTO9XSm38BwgwJgw   Melissa Lucio https://freemelissalucio.org/ https://www.amazon.com/State-Texas-Vs-Melissa-Special/dp/B08L3Q69NR https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/movies/the-state-of-texas-vs.-melissa/1e71f675-ac8e-303c-a9fa-5dae467c02df https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/trial-judge-declares-melissa-lucio-to-be-actually-innocent-recommends-texas-cca-overturn-conviction-and-death-sentence https://www.texastribune.org/2024/04/15/melissa-lucio-death-penalty-judge-overturn/   Commutations   https://www.npr.org/2024/12/25/nx-s1-5237504/biden-gets-support-for-commuting-federal-death-row-sentences-for-37-of-40-prisoners https://www.newsweek.com/death-row-joe-biden-commute-dylann-roof-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-robert-bowers-2005007 https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/in-wake-of-president-bidens-federal-commutations-north-carolina-governor-cooper-grants-clemency-to-15-death-sentenced-prisoners-the-largest-grant-of-capital-clemency-in-state-history https://www.npr.org/2024/12/23/g-s1-38794/biden-death-row-commutations https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-prisoners-cant-legally-object-bidens-death-row-commutations-doj-ar-rcna186280 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/23/us/politics/biden-commutes-37-death-sentences.html   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter sat down with Keri Williams to continue our coverage of Municipal Courts in Colorado. This time, they discussed how Pueblo Municipal Courts were giving people years in jail for contempt of court charges.   Guest Keri Williams, Attorney, Pueblo, Colorado   Resources: 2017 ACLU Report on Colorado Municipal Courts https://www.aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/JUSTICE-DERAILED-web.pdf Coverage of Municipal Courts in Pueblo by Denver Post https://www.denverpost.com/2024/07/21/pueblo-municipal-contempt-of-court-charges-jail-time/ https://www.denverpost.com/2024/08/01/pueblo-municipal-court-workplace-investigation/ https://www.denverpost.com/2024/09/11/pueblo-contempt-court-city-defends-investigation/ https://www.denverpost.com/2024/10/11/pueblo-judge-contempt-of-court-aclu-challenge/ https://www.denverpost.com/2024/12/10/pueblo-inmates-released-contempt-court-ruled-unconstitutional/  Contact Keri keri.williams@beckerlawgroup.net  https://www.beckerlawgroup.net/  Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter sat down with Alison Gordon to continue our coverage of Municipal Courts in Colorado. This time, the discussion focuses on the extremely punitive Westminster Municipal Court.   Guest Alison Gordon, Associate Attorney, McCabe Law   Resources: 2017 ACLU Report on Colorado Municipal Courts https://www.aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/JUSTICE-DERAILED-web.pdf  Contact Alison Alison@mccabe-law.net  https://www.mccabe-law.net/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Tristan Gorman and Rebecca Wallace are back this time to discuss municipal courts in Colorado. This episode is the first of our four-part series on municipal courts in Colorado. This episode gives a general overview of problems in this courts and then dives into the outright denial of counsel happening in Grand Junction's Municipal Court.   Guest Tristan Gorman, Policy Director, Colorado Criminal Defense Bar Rebecca Wallace, Policy Director, Colorado Freedom Fund   Resources: 2017 ACLU Report on Colorado Municipal Courts https://www.aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/JUSTICE-DERAILED-web.pdf   Coverage by the Denver Post https://www.denverpost.com/2024/10/17/grand-junction-municipal-court-public-defenders-right-to-counsel/ Coverage by Grand Junction Daily Sentinel https://www.gjsentinel.com/news/western_colorado/grand-junction-municipal-court-accused-of-constitutional-violations/article_abbff94a-8d8b-11ef-af0d-a3597da2fba4.html CFF Website https://www.coloradofreedomfund.org/ CCDB Website https://ccdb.org/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Tristan Gorman and Rebecca Wallace join the show to discuss the policies, ballot initiatives, and rhetoric from district attorneys that is pushing Colorado back in a "tough on crime" direction. Through their work with their respective organizations, Rebecca and Tristan are intimately familiar with the conversations that the state legislature engage in around crime and the criminal legal system.   Guest Tristan Gorman, Policy Director, Colorado Criminal Defense Bar Rebecca Wallace, Policy Director, Colorado Freedom Fund   Resources:   Colorado Freedom Fund Links https://www.coloradofreedomfund.org/ https://www.coloradofreedomfund.org/2024-legislation Colorado Criminal Defense Bar https://ccdb.org/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

A Bonus Episode for everyone! On Monday, I had a discussion/debate with Daniel Carr, a former cop from Albuquerque, New Mexico. Today, we discussed/debated the use of force in the SrA Roger Fortson, the Execution of Marcellus Williams, and the citation issued to a homeless, pregnant woman in Louisville Kentucky Guest Daniel Carr, Police Law Newsletter Resources: Links to Daniel's Work https://linktr.ee/policelawnews   SrA Roger Fortson Case https://www.npr.org/2024/08/23/nx-s1-5088020/roger-fortson-death-florida-sheriff-deputy-charged-manslaughter   https://apnews.com/article/airman-shot-florida-deputy-roger-fortson-760057db9fd9c7b2f25e85b1b285e8e3   Execution of Marcellus Williams https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-5612/326599/20240923222829451_2024.09.23%20Williams%20Glossip%20Cert%20Petition%20FINAL.pdf   https://www.google.com/search?q=marcellus+williams+pettion&oq=marcellus+williams+pettion&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQABgKGIAEMgkIAhAAGAoYgATSAQg2MjkyajBqNKgCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8   Pregnant KY Woman Cited for Unlawful Camping https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/21/us/kentucky-woman-pregnant-homeless-police.html#:~:text=A%20homeless%20woman%20said%20that,camera%20footage%20released%20on%20Thursday.   https://www.wlky.com/article/body-cam-footage-lmpd-citing-pregnant-homeless-woman-labor/63251559   https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/20/pregnant-kentucky-woman-labor   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com   Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast   Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com   Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast    Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ   Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN   Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Thank you to everyone who has made the show possible this year. Whether you are a listener, a subscriber, a guest, or a friend of the show, this show would not be possible without you! Thanks for another amazing year, and Hunter is looking forward to another incredible year in 2025.  *NO EPISODES THIS THURSDAY OR NEXT TUESDAY*   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by professor Ráchael Powers to discuss Marsy's Law. For those unfamiliar, Marsy's Law is one of many types of Victim's Bill of Rights law that exist around the country. These laws are designed to give victims of crime more rights in the criminal legal system. The only problem? They often directly conflict with the rights of the accused. Today, Ráchael joins us to talk about a report she published for the NACDL about the dangers of Marsy's Law.   Guests: Ráchael Powers Resources: Contact Ráchael https://researchdirectory.uc.edu/p/powersro https://x.com/rpowerscrim?lang=en Read the Report https://www.nacdl.org/Document/JusticeforNoneHowMarsysLawUnderminesCrimLegalSys   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Eric Fish and Chesa Boudin. This time, Eric and Chesa join the show to discuss a recent law review article they published discussing ways to strengthen pre-trial adjudication. As discussed at length on the show, our criminal legal system has killed the jury trial. As a result, opportunities to bring injustices, misconduct, and corruption to light have faded away. Chesa and Eric's law review article attempts to point out places around the country that have figured out ways to revive adversarial aspects of our legal system before trial. In doing so, they offer a pathway that criminal defense lawyers may be able to increase their chances to oppose the governments case in public.   Guests: Chesa Boudin, Executive Director, UC Berkley Criminal Law and Justice Center Eric Fish, Professor of Law, UC Davis School of Law   Resources: Contact Chesa https://www.law.berkeley.edu/our-faculty/faculty-profiles/chesa-boudin/#tab_profile https://x.com/chesaboudin?lang=en Contact Eric https://x.com/Eric_S_Fish https://law.ucdavis.edu/people/eric-fish   Law Review Article https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5026754   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Professor Jacob Charles to discuss the Second Amendment. Since D.C. v Heller in 2008, the Second Amendment transformed from nearly dead letter law to one of the most rapidly changing areas of the Constitution. Jake joins the show to detail that transformation and explain the impacts it is having on our legal system.   Guests: Jacob Charles, Professor of Law, Pepperdine University Caruso School of Law   Resources: Contact Jake https://law.pepperdine.edu/faculty-research/jacob-charles/ https://bsky.app/profile/jacobdcharles.bsky.social https://x.com/JacobDCharles SSRN https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1714457 Heller https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/554/570/ Bruen https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf Rahimi https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-915_8o6b.pdf   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Dr. Julie Mack and Randy Papetti to discuss Shaken Baby Syndrome. Also known as Abusive Head Trauma, Shaken Baby Syndrome started out as an untested hypothesis meant to help parents keep their children safe. However, police and prosecutors quickly realized the power SBS had to secure convictions. Since then, dozens of people's convictions have been overturned as courts around the country realize that SBS is an unfounded, junk science that does not belong in the criminal court room.   Guests: Dr. Julie Mack, Radiologist Randy Papetti, Attorney   Resources: CATO Institute on Shaken Baby Syndrome https://www.cato.org/events/shaken-baby-syndrome-examining-evidence-shadow-execution Randy's Book on Shaken Baby Syndrome https://www.amazon.com/Forensic-Unreliability-Shaken-Baby-Syndrome/dp/0998904333 Feigned Consensus: Usurping the Law in Shaken Baby Syndrome/ Abusive Head Trauma Prosecutions https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3104&context=articles Swedish Study on SBS https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28130787/ Robert Roberson https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/09/15/texas-shaken-baby-syndrome-baby-death-robert-roberson?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAl4a6BhBqEiwAqvrquptUxczfL4EwGv2aXhKkzhV8LiaHBriGbcdDzCJtXwd7ypeophvb0xoCCckQAvD_BwE https://www.texastribune.org/2024/10/29/robert-roberson-shaken-baby-texas-death-row-evidence/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Rob Perkins and Dan Eichinger to discuss Public Defense in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. If you've listened to the show long enough, then you know that Pennsylvania was one of the last states to provide any funding for Public Defense. While the $7.5 million allocated to support Public Defense is welcome, it is insufficient to account for the decades of underfunding/understaffing in places like Allegheny County. Yet, Dan and Rob believe that with the help of new county leadership, they can finally meet the demands of Gideon in Allegheny County.   Guests: Rob Perkins, Executive Director, Allegheny Lawyer's Initiative for Justice Daniel Eichinger, Program Administrator, Wayne County Indigent Defense Services Resources: Allegheny Lawyers Initiative for Justice https://www.ali4j.org/   Allegheny Public Defender Report https://www.ali4j.org/research-report-a-path-forward ACLU Report https://www.aclupa.org/en/job-left-undone-allegheny-countys-fork-road 2018 Coverage of Public Defense https://whyy.org/articles/decades-after-landmark-lawsuit-caseload-concerns-continue-in-allegheny-countys-public-defender-office/ Email Rob rob@robperkinslaw.com During the Episode Dan, mentioned Racial Disparity in Allegheny County. Here is an additional note from him: RAND_RTI_Final_Report.pdf (pitt.edu)   Additionally, I mentioned that half of all charges filed against Black people arise from a police initiated encounter. My phrasing could have been more precise as the paper refers to charges arising out of "Black neighborhoods" (as opposed to Black people) and I didn't mention the numbers in terms of the disparity between White neighborhoods, so I wanted to make sure your listeners had the exact language from the report:   (Pg. 47 of the report, pg. 91 of the document):    "In particular, charges that are filed in Black neighborhoods are almost equally likely to initiate from either a call for service or a low-priority law enforcement action (30% versus 27%). However, in the White matched neighborhoods, charges are more than twice as likely to originate from a call for service than from a low-priority law enforcement action (38% versus 17%)."    Additionally, the percentage of charges growing out of a police-initiated interaction is likely higher because, as the authors note (pg. 46):    "Thirty-two percent of the cases could not be matched to the 911 call data. As noted in the previous section, these are likely to be instances where law enforcement officers initiated an action but did not call it in. These unmatched cases are thus classified as unidentified law enforcement–initiated actions."     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Professor Stephen Bright to discuss his new book, the Fear of Too Much Justice. Over decades of work as an attorney, Steve has been a leading voice against the death penalty and in support of major overhauls to our criminal legal system. Today, Steve joins the show to discuss how the Fear of Too Much Justice is stopping people from reforming our criminal legal system.     Guests: Stephen Bright, Professor of Law, Yale University School of Law   Resources: Stephen Bright's Faculty Page https://law.yale.edu/stephen-b-bright Fear of Too Much Justice https://www.thefearoftoomuchjustice.com/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined the Editor of the Virginia Defender Newspaper, Phil Wilayto to try and understand a simple question: Why are people incarcerated at Virginia's Red Onion State Super Max Prison self-immolating just to get transferred to a new prison?     Guests: Phil Wilayto, Editor, Virginia Defender Newspaper   Resources: On Saturday, Dec. 7, the Virginia Defenders for Freedom, Justice & Equality will hold a public meeting titled "Crisis at Red Onion Supermax: How you can help!" The meeting will take place at Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church, 1720 Mechanicsville Turnpike, in Richmond's East End.  https://virginiadefender.org/ For more information, call, or text the Defenders at 804-644-5834 or email DefenddersFJE@hotmail.com. Crisis at Red Onion Face Book Page https://www.facebook.com/events/980796297402417/?acontext=%7B%22event_action_history%22%3A[%7B%22mechanism%22%3A%22your_upcoming_events_unit%22%2C%22surface%22%3A%22bookmark%22%7D]%2C%22ref_notif_type%22%3Anull%7D More Coverage https://www.wvtf.org/news/2024-11-12/fearful-prisoners-use-desperate-measures-to-protest https://www.latintimes.com/dozen-black-inmates-reportedly-attempted-self-immolate-virginia-supermax-prison-escape-566799 https://www.wric.com/news/virginia-news/officials-address-allegations-of-self-inflicted-burnings-by-inmates-at-red-onion-state-prison/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/inmates-red-onion-state-prison-sustain-self-inflicted-burns-protest-rcna182013 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/30/red-onion-state-prison-protest https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/01/us/virginia-prisoners-burns-protest.html       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Professor Joanna Schwartz to discuss Civil Rights Litigation. Like they did for the rights of criminal defendants, the conservative legal movement has slowly chipped away at Civil Rights protections under Section 1983. Today, Joanna joins to talk about the many ways it is nearly impossible for a person to get a remedy after the government violates their civil rights.     Guests: Joanna Schwartz, Professor of Law, UCLA   Resources: Follow Joanna on Twitter https://x.com/JCSchwartzProf Joanna's Website https://www.joannaschwartz.net/ https://law.ucla.edu/faculty/faculty-profiles/joanna-c-schwartz Vallejo Police Coverage https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-10-18/families-of-people-killed-by-vallejo-police-say-department-has-gone-rogue https://www.kqed.org/news/11769266/the-long-storied-history-of-police-community-tension-in-vallejo https://www.propublica.org/article/vallejo-police-killing-investigations https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/11/23/how-a-deadly-police-force-ruled-a-city   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Amanda Jack of the New York Legal Aid Society. Today, Amanda and Hunter are discussing the Harvey Weinstein trial. Specifically, they are discussing why the conviction was overturned, why the New York legislature is trying to change the rules of evidence, and why it's a terrible idea for them to do it.   Guests: Amanda Jack, Policy Director Criminal Practice, NY Legal Aid Society   Resources: Follow Amanda on Twitter https://x.com/brooklynpd Federal Rule of Evidence 413 and Harvey Weinstein https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2024/05/30/federal-rule-of-evidence-413-and-harvey-weinstein/?slreturn=20241123154046 https://nysba.org/the-people-v-harvey-weinstein-the-question-of-prior-bad-acts/?srsltid=AfmBOooaOVkUi_nnP2AqDlNinTDRYWRpXrPDFsj8OwCGFxnMt2zWGOky   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Andre de Gruy, Chief Public Defender of Mississippi. The last time Andre was on the show, he and Hunter discussed some positive changes he was hoping to get out of the 2024 legislative session. While not everything from the last episode came to pass, Andre believes Mississippi public defense is ever so slowly improving.   Guests: Andre de Gruy, State Public Defender, Mississippi   Resources: OSPD Website https://www.ospd.ms.gov/ Marshall Project Mississippi https://www.themarshallproject.org/2024/05/02/mississippi-public-defense-legislative-reforms https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/09/18/mississippi-courts-lawyers-poor-defendants https://www.themarshallproject.org/2024/01/24/arrested-hinds-county-mississippi-jackson-courts   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined be the Co-Founder of Reduct, Prabhas Pokharel. Building from Tuesday's conversation about tech, AI, and Public Defense, Hunter and Prabhas explore the ways AI and Reduct can help Public Defenders take on Police and Prosecutors.   Guests: Prabhas Pokharel, Co-Founder, Reduct Resources: Reduct Website, Socials, and Contact https://reduct.video/ https://x.com/ReductVideo prabhas@reduct.video     Standford Legal AI Study  https://www.lawnext.com/2024/06/in-redo-of-its-study-stanford-finds-westlaws-ai-hallucinates-at-double-the-rate-of-lexisnexis.html https://hai.stanford.edu/news/ai-trial-legal-models-hallucinate-1-out-6-or-more-benchmarking-queries https://dho.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/Legal_RAG_Hallucinations.pdf   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Professor Andrew Ferguson. Last time Andrew was on the show, he and Hunter discussed the state of the 4th Amendment in the digital era. This time, Hunter and Andrew dive into three law review articles Andrew has recently published. The first discussed a new framework for analyzing the 4th Amendment. The second and third articles are all about new, dangerous was police and prosecutors are relying on AI.     Guests: Andrew Ferguson, Professor of Law, American University Washington College of Law   Resources: Andrew's Faculty Page https://www.american.edu/wcl/faculty/ferguson.cfm Andrews Law Review Articles Digital Rummaging https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4377633 AI in Police Reports https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4897632 Video Analytics and the Fourth Amendment https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4766249 U.S. v Tuggle https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/rssExec.pl?Submit=Display&Path=Y2021/D07-14/C:20-2352:J:Flaum:aut:T:fnOp:N:2733467:S:0  More on AI in Police Reports https://www.kqed.org/news/12007520/how-artificial-intelligence-is-changing-the-reports-police-write https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/171-mic-drop-andrew-ferguson-says-ais-introduction/id1225077306?i=1000671753062 https://www.propublica.org/article/police-body-cameras-video-ai-law-enforcement https://apnews.com/article/ai-writes-police-reports-axon-body-cameras-chatgpt-a24d1502b53faae4be0dac069243f418   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by IV Ashton, Founder and President of Legal Server, to discuss how a quality case management system and powerful AI tools can help Public Defenders pose more systemic challenges to police and prosecutors   Guests: IV Ashton, President and Founder, Legal Server   Resources: Legal Server Website https://www.legalserver.org/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Nancy Farrell and Dee Miller of the New York Vet Defense Program. Previously on the show, Hunter and other guests have described the power of veteran and other treatment courts. However, we have often lamented at the limited scope that this courts offer veterans who need help but just not drug or alcohol treatment. With this program, Nancy and Dee offer veterans the culturally competent mitigation and service connection that helps Vets escape the criminal legal system.   Guests: Nancy Farrell, Director, New York Vet Defense Dee Miller, Program Coordinator, Vet Defense   Resources: Connect With NY Vet Defense 585 219 4862 Email Info@NYSDA.org Website https://www.nysda.org/page/VetsDefTest   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined once again by NAPD's Jeff Sherr. This time, they sat down to discuss NAPD's new Change Maker Forum, what Hunter learned from attending, and how NAPD hopes to use it to spark new, impactful changes in Public Defense.   Guests: Jeff Sherr, Director of Training, National Association of Public Defense   Resources: NAPD Changemaker Forum 2025 https://publicdefenders.us/event/the-changemakers-forum-napd-strategic-exchange-3/ Notes from 2024 https://publicdefenders.us/blogs/napd-changemakers-forum-tackles-public-defense-challenges/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Ph.D. candidate and law student Andrew Gurrero to discuss his research about the evolution of the UCLA police department. In this episode, Hunter and Andrew explore the origins of the department and the forces that drove the department away from its original mandate.   Guests: Andrew Gurrero, Ph.D Candidate, Harvard   Resources: Read Sources Discussed in the Episode Here https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12_jIy21jUCsPS4qEqSAMjxxvx1Tlce6r?usp=sharing   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Rebecca Schaffer to discuss plea bargaining in Europe. As we did on Tuesday, this episode aims to help people understand the intractable problems with plea deals and what countries are doing to try and ameliorate those problems   Guests: Rebecca Schaffer, Former Legal Director, Fair Trials   Resources: Follow Rebecca on Twitter https://x.com/rebeccashaeffe?lang=en Email Rebecca rebecca.shaeffer@gmail.com Read the Reports https://www.fairtrials.org/articles/film-video/trial-waiver-systems-in-europe-punishment-without-a-trial/ https://www.fairtrials.org/articles/publications/the-disappearing-trial/         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Aditi Goel of the Sixth Amendment Center. This time, we discuss their recent report about Public Defense in South Dakota. Like many county based, county funded Public Defense systems, South Dakota is plagued with underfunding, under staffing, lack of independence, and cost saving practices that make Public Defense ineffective. Yet, this episode has a ray of hope because for the first time in its history, the state appears poised to radically reimagine how it funds, supports, and organizes Public Defense.   Guests: Aditi Goel, Deputy Director, Sixth Amendment Center   Resources: Read the Report Here: https://6ac.org/new-6ac-report-finds-south-dakota-counties-are-at-a-breaking-point-and-need-state-oversight/ New South Dakota Public Defense Commission https://www.sdpb.org/crime-courts/2024-10-07/public-defense-challenges-highlighted-as-commission-begins-work https://sdlegislature.gov/Session/Bill/24943/265191 Task Force Report https://ujs.sd.gov/uploads/committees/Indigent/ILSTaskForceFinalReportRecommendations.pdf             Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Lucian Dervan to discuss plea bargaining. This time, he joins to discuss what we can learn about plea bargaining from Japan's failed attempt to implement plea bargaining system.   Guests: Lucian Dervan, Professor of Law and Director of Criminal Justice Studies, Belmont College of Law, Founding Director of the Plea Bargaining Institute Resources: Link to Lucian's book on Plea Bargaining https://www.americanbar.org/products/inv/book/440099902/ Lucian's Work with Plea Bargaining Institute https://pleabargaininginstitute.com/about-pbi/founding-director/ Study on Japan and Korea https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3768687 https://news.belmont.edu/dervan-shares-research-on-plea-bargaining-with-japanese-officials/ Original Study https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/jclc/vol103/iss1/1/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Oregon Criminal Defense and Victim's Rights lawyer Rachel Philips. Over the past three years, Rachel has been outspoken about retaliation that women attorneys faced from members of the Oregon Public Defense Commission. She joins the show to discuss her efforts to bring that retaliation to light and to discuss her candidacy for a seat on the bench in Multnomah County.   Guests: Rachel Philips, Criminal Defense Lawyer, Victim's Rights Lawyer, Candidate for Judicial Position 38, Multnomah County, Oregon   Resources: Links to the Judicial Race: League of women voters candidate forum:  https://youtu.be/goGR8mEDSy8?si=dx9UqPhHSI5BdzwM League of women voters interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTjwwMLP_JE LWV candidate statements : https://www.vote411.org/plan-your-vote  (If it doesn't pull it up, plug in my office address and it will by the race. My campaign website:   https://rachelphilipsforjudge.com/ Campaign Twitter:   https://x.com/Rachel4Judge Campaign Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rachelforjudge/ Oregonian article: https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2024/10/surprise-open-seat-for-multnomah-county-judge-draws-pack-of-contenders.html?outputType=amp Willamette Week article: https://www.wweek.com/news/2024/09/12/the-window-opens-and-shuts-quickly-for-unusual-judicial-vacancy-in-multnomah-county/ Multnomah Bar Association Candidate Statements:  https://www.mbabar.org/about/mba-news/candidate-statements---circuit-court-judge-position-38/ Also, here's the Oregonian's endorsement of the DA (not a surprise): https://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/2024/10/editorial-endorsement-november-2024-elect-jeff-auxier-to-multnomah-county-bench.html   And my answers to their questions: https://www.oregonlive.com/editors/2024/10/rachel-philips-multnomah-county-judge-position-38.html   Also Ballotpedia: https://ballotpedia.org/Rachel_Philips   And the Multnomah Bar Association candidate statements: https://mbabar.org/judicialcandidates https://www.portlandmercury.com/election-guide-2024/2024/10/16/47453705/your-mercury-2024-election-cheat-sheet   Folder with Report and Statements https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QbvIppKcTDpSpLiQD4nFhA0IxLfVajiV?usp=sharing   Media coverage of defense crisis and investigation into OPDS, I tried to keep it mainly chronological, from oldest to most recent: https://www.oregoncapitalinsider.com/news/state-public-defense-office-out-of-money/article_b7e0e664-dae4-59fc-b846-23c86f14e8ae.html https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2021/07/as-state-public-defense-office-emerges-from-nearly-4-million-deficit-attorneys-raise-other-concerns-about-mismanagement.html https://www.portlandmercury.com/news/2021/08/11/35853142/women-defense-attorneys-accuse-oregons-public-defense-agency-of-retaliation-and-pay-inequity https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2021/08/aclu-calls-for-investigation-after-female-attorneys-raise-retaliation-pay-concerns-at-state-public-defenders-office.html This mentions Tara Herivel not being paid her negotitated rate: https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2022/03/states-embattled-public-defense-office-signed-contracts-worth-400000-to-hire-consultants-including-former-state-rep-jennifer-williamson.html Tara's guest column: https://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/2022/03/opinion-oregons-public-defense-crisis-rooted-in-longstanding-failures.html https://www.opb.org/article/2022/12/09/oregon-criminal-justice-system-publid-defender-shortage-crisis/ https://www.opb.org/article/2022/08/16/day-after-firing-public-defense-commissioners-oregons-chief-justice-appoints-new-members/   Here is Oregon ACLU landing page with timeline and their letters and actions: https://www.aclu-or.org/en/campaigns/fighting-gender-based-discrimination-public-defense-system#:~:text=Timeline-,August%202021,J.D.%2C%20to%20begin%20the%20investigation. https://x.com/rachelbusygrl/status/1681469783194357762  - has opinion in Tara's case that she won against OPDS https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2023/07/ousted-oregon-public-defense-leader-to-get-380000-to-settle-whisteblower-claims.html?utm_campaign=theoregonian_sf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter https://www.opb.org/article/2023/07/18/former-head-oregon-public-defense-singer-settles-with-state-for-380000k/ https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2024/02/report-shows-some-female-public-defenders-in-oregon-earned-less-than-male-counterparts-with-lots-of-caveats.html  https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2024/08/15/report-finds-top-lawyer-at-state-public-defense-agency-retaliated-against-two-female-attorneys/#:~:text=The%20report%20was%20commissioned%20by,represent%20every%20indigent%20criminal%20defendant. https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2024/02/07/long-awaited-investigation-into-gender-disparities-in-public-defender-pay-finds-considerable-inconsistency/ https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2024/09/no-discipline-for-oregon-public-defense-agency-leader-accused-of-retaliating-against-women-lawyers.html Rachel's letter to the editor in 2023: https://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/2023/05/readers-respond-public-defense-system-needs-accountability.html https://www.wweek.com/news/2024/10/20/aclu-demands-firing-of-state-public-defense-agencys-top-lawyer/ https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2024/10/aclu-demands-dismissal-of-top-lawyer-at-oregon-public-defense-agency.html?outputType=amp       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? 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Today, Hunter is joined by Ames Grawert of the Brennan Center to discuss a recent Brennan Center report of Bail Reform's impact (or lack thereof) on crime rates.   Guests: Ames Grawert, Senior Counsel, Brennan Center for Justice   Resources:   Read the Report https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/bail-reform-and-public-safety Read more of Ames' Work https://www.brennancenter.org/experts/ames-grawert Read More of Brennan Center's Work https://www.brennancenter.org/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Raj Jayadev of Silicon Valley De-Bug to discuss participatory defense. In the early 2000's, Raj and SVDB sought to give communities a voice in places they traditionally were excluded from or ignored. Eventually, the community made clear that they needed and wanted a way to be more involved with the criminal legal system. From there, SVDB came up with participatory defense to help communities navigate the criminal legal system and play an active role in the defense of members of their community.     Guests: Raj Jayadev, Coordinator of Silicon Valley De-Bug and National Participatory Defense Network   Resources: Silicon Valley De-Bug Website https://www.siliconvalleydebug.org/ And Socials https://x.com/svdebug https://www.facebook.com/sv.debug https://www.instagram.com/sv_debug/   Pick up a Copy of Raj's Book https://thenewpress.com/books/protect-your-people https://www.amazon.com/Protect-Your-People-Participatory-Incarceration/dp/1620977001     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Jee Park, the Executive Director of the Innocence Project of New Orleans to discuss wrongful convictions and post-conviction work in Louisiana. After our past two episodes, it should be clear that there are serious issues with adult and youth representation in Louisiana. Unfortunately, this keeps groups like IPNO extremely busy, and that ensures that inevitably they will not be able to help every person who Louisiana has wrongfully convicted.   Guests: Jee Park, Executive Director, Innocence Project New Orleans   Resources: Learn more about IPNO https://ip-no.org/ https://x.com/_ipno_ https://www.facebook.com/IPNOLA/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCndzvJoSSZSqgT4_0D42zdw/videos https://www.instagram.com/_ipno_/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Hannah Van De Car to discuss the recent "tough on crime" policies that Louisiana Jeff Landry is pursuing in the Youth Justice space. From a repeal of raise the age to increased future punishment for children in possession of firearms, Governor Landry is taking an already punitive state and making it into one of the most pro carceral places on Earth.   Guests: Hannah Van De Car, Deputy Legal Director, Louisiana Center for Children's Rights   Resources:   Contact Hannah https://lakidsrights.org/about-us/staff/hannah-van-de-car/ Check out the work of LCCR https://lakidsrights.org/ https://www.facebook.com/lakidsrights https://x.com/LAKidsRights https://lakidsrights.org/we-advocate/youth-in-the-adult-system/ https://lakidsrights.org/we-advocate/youth-in-the-juvenile-system/   Reading about the Raise the Age Change https://www.propublica.org/article/louisiana-teens-prosecution-reverse-raise-the-age   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Derwyn Bunton. The last time Derwyn was on the show, he was the chief Public Defender in the Orleans Parish of Louisiana, but he is now the Chief Legal Officer at the Southern Poverty Law Center. Today, Derwyn joined the show to discuss what has been happening with Louisiana's Public Defender system. Specifically, Derwyn is here to discuss the consolidation of power into the hands of Remy Starns and the policies Remy is pursuing with his new found power.   Guests: Derwyn Bunton, Chief Legal Officer, Southern Poverty Law Center   Resources: Contact the Southern Poverty Law Center https://www.instagram.com/splcenter/ https://www.facebook.com/SPLCenter https://x.com/splcenter https://www.splcenter.org/about/staff/derwyn-bunton   Coverage of Louisiana Public Defense https://boltsmag.org/jeff-landry-louisiana-public-defense/ https://lailluminator.com/2024/02/19/proposed-louisiana-public-defender-overhaul-is-a-power-grab-critics-say/     Board votes down Starns' proposal for salary cuts https://lailluminator.com/2024/10/17/louisianas-newly-configured-public-defender-board-rejects-landry-administration-pay-plan/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Pam Vickrey, Executive Director of the Utah Juvenile Defender Attorneys to discuss a recent report, conducted in partnership with the Gault Center, about the problems and promises of Youth Defense in Utah.   Guests: Pam Vickrey, Executive Director, Utah Juvenile Defender Attorneys   Resources: Read the Report Here https://www.defendyouthrights.org/wp-content/uploads/Utah-Assessment-Report.pdf Check out More of the Gault Center's Work https://www.defendyouthrights.org/ Utah Juvenile Defender Attorneys https://ujda.org/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by journalist Katey Rusch to discuss her recent bombshell reporting on California law enforcement agencies use of "clean record" agreements to keep police misconduct from defense lawyers, the public, and even other law enforcement agencies.   Guests: Katey Rusch, Reporter, California   Resources: Contact Katey https://journalism.berkeley.edu/person/katey-rusch/ katey.rusch@gmail.com https://x.com/KateyRusch https://www.facebook.com/kateyrusch/   Read the Reporting Here: https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2024/police-clean-record-agreements/ https://www.sfchronicle.com/california/article/clean-record-agreements-investigation-19752768.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2024/police-clean-record-agreements-pensions/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Paul Bowen and Jacqueline van Wormer Ph.D. to discuss the juvenile treatment courts that they have helped set up around the country. As has been the case on previous episodes about youth defense, today we discuss both the politics and science behind ensuring that courts are considering the unique needs of the youth being processed through them.   Guests: Paul Bowen, Project Director, Treatment Court Institute, All Rise Jacquline van Wormer Ph.D., Director, Center for Advancing Justice, All Rise   Resources:   All Rise https://allrise.org/news/meet-our-divisions-4/ https://www.instagram.com/allrise_org/ https://www.facebook.com/AllRise.org https://x.com/_allrise_ https://www.youtube.com/@AllRise_org https://www.linkedin.com/company/weallrise Contact Paul https://allrise.org/our-team/paul-bowen/ Contact Jacqueline https://crmj.wsu.edu/chair-faculty-graduate-students-and-staff/faculty/jacqueline-van-wormer/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by civil litigator Park Stinar to discuss his work in suing people and organizations who have sexually violated his clients. Through his career, Parker has pursued justice against Larry Nassar and Michigan State, the Catholic Church, Juvenile Detention Facilities, and the University of Michigan because of their role in the sexual assault of his clients. While not a normal episode for the show, today we ask a vitally important question: If our criminal legal system is operating properly and it is difficult to secure a conviction, what other avenues are available to people to get remedy and redress for the wrongs done to them?   Guests: Parker Stinar, Managing Partner, Stinar Gould Grieco and Hensley     Resources: Parker Stinar Contact https://www.sgghlaw.com/attorneys/parker-stinar/ https://x.com/parkerstinar Catholic Church https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/21/louisiana-catholic-church-sexual-abuse-victims-lawsuit-window#:~:text=Months%20after%20Louisiana's%20supreme,to%20strike%20the%20statute%20down. https://ballsandstrikes.org/legal-culture/louisiana-supreme-court-church-abuse-case/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/12/louisiana-supreme-court-child-sexual-abuse-catholic-church Larry Nasser and University of Michigan State https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2024/04/23/justice-doj-larry-nassar-victims/73426711007/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Leah Nelson, and this time, she is joined by Judge Stepehen Wallace. On today's episode, Leah and Judge Wallace are her to unveil their years long research into the fines and fees that the Jefferson County, Alabama Courts are extracting from criminal defendants. As will surprise no one who listens to the show, the fines and fees program fails the accused, fails victims, fails to fund the legal system, and thus, fails the entire state of Alabama.   Guests: Leah Nelson, Co-Founder, Jefferson County Equitable Fines and Fees Project, Alabama Stepehen Wallace, Circuit Judge, Jefferson County, Birmingham, Alabama   Resources: Coverage of Aug. 2024 Releases https://aldailynews.com/court-fee-system-inefficient-discriminatory-research-finds/ https://aldailynews.com/column-crime-and-garnishment/ https://aldailynews.com/capitol-journal-september-13-2024/   Oct. 2024 paper with IBM https://krvarshney.github.io/pubs/LaraYejasJMNSTNBV_aies2024.pdf   Aug. 2024 with MDRC https://www.mdrc.org/sites/default/files/JeffCoFines%26Fees_Brief_FInal.pdf   Background reading on-- Brookside (the Ferguson of Alabama): https://www.al.com/bankingoncrime/ Alabama tax policy and how the Alabama constitution encourages reliance on fines and fees: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/27/opinion/alabama-fines-fees.html     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by two people who's work attempts to bring people together to heal after a wrongful conviction. Jennifer Thompson, Founder of Healing Justice, and Professor Jamie Lau from Duke University join the show to discuss how they help the wrongfully convicted, the victims in a wrongful conviction, the families of both, and the communities they are from come together to talk and hopefully heal from the bomb that is a wrongful conviction   Guests: Jennifer Thompson, Founder, Healing Justice Jamie Lau, Clinical Professor of Law, Duke University School of Law     Resources: Healing Justice Website https://healingjusticeproject.org/ Contact Jamie https://law.duke.edu/fac/lau https://x.com/laudurham Innocence Network https://innocencenetwork.org/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by former Public Defender and current Senior Advisor to District Attorney Larry Krasner, Matthew Stiegler. After Tuesday's episode, we saw the promise and limitations of Public Defenders holding police accountable, and today, we examine those same promises and limitations for criminal legal reforms that progressive prosecution offers.   Guests: Matthew Stiegler, Senior Advisor to District Attorney Larry Krasner, Philadelphia   Resources: Follow Matthew on Twitter https://x.com/matthewstiegler?lang=en Philly DA https://phillyda.org/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by two Philly Public Defenders, Michael Mellon and Paula Sen, to discuss how their work with the Philly Public Defender Police Accountability Unit helped to uncover a systemic pattern and practice of lies and illegal use of surveillance cameras.   Guests: Paula Sen, Assistant Public Defender, Defender Association of Philadelphia Michael Mellon, Assistant Public Defender, Defender Association of Philadelphia   Resources: Reporting on the Illegal use of Surveillance Cameras https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia/philadelphia-police-video-surveillance-drug-arrests-20240508.html     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Stanislaus County Chief Public Defender, Jennifer Jennison. In the past year, Jennifer has been confronted with the most challenging question a Chief can face: Should I refuse to take on new cases because the current workload that my attorneys have is unethically high? Today's episode attempts to understand that historical and current conditions that lead Jennifer to make this difficult decision.   Guests: Jennifer Jennison, Chief Public Defender, Stanislaus County, California   Resources:   Modesto Bee Reporting https://www.modbee.com/news/local/article288551423.html Stanislaus County Public Defender https://www.stancounty.com/publicdefender/ OSPD Reporting on Public Defense in California https://www.ospd.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Californias-58-Public-Defense-Systems-Accessible.pdf       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Jessica Brand and Adrienne Johnson of the Wren Collective. This time, Jessica and Adrienne join to discuss their recent report about the failings of Public Defense in Nueces County, Texas.   Guests: Jessica Brand, Founder, Wren Collective Adrienne Johnson, Senior Counsel, Wren Collective Resources:   Wren Collective Website https://www.wrencollective.org/   Wren Collective Report https://www.wrencollective.orgfiles/ugd/8fe8f057ace02e045642318ef78fa366f9c32d.pdf         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by former whistleblower Brittany Iriart and Civil Rights Attorney Andy McNulty to discuss a scandalous coverup with the Denver Sheriffs Department. When she moved to a civilian oversight position with the Denver Sheriff, Brittany hoped to bring some much needed accountability to a department with a history of burying misconduct. Unfortunately, the incremental changes around the edges did little to reign in a department that viewed itself above the law.     Guests: Brittany Iriart, Former Whistle Blower, Colorado Andy McNulty, Civil Rights Attorney, Newman McNulty, Denver, Colorado   Resources: Coverage of Brittany's Case https://whistleblowersblog.org/whistleblower-of-the-week/brittany-marie-iriart/ https://kdvr.com/news/problem-solvers/denver-whistleblower-loses-job/ https://kdvr.com/news/problem-solvers/denver-whistleblower-put-on-administrative-leave-after-speaking-out-about-deputy-punching-inmate-in-wheelchair/ https://kdvr.com/news/problem-solvers/video-shows-denver-deputy-punch-inmate-in-wheelchair/ https://kdvr.com/news/problem-solvers/denver-pays-175k-to-fired-whistleblower-who-tipped-off-the-problem-solvers/ https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/next/denver-whistle-blower-claims-deputy-discipline-is-broken/73-fce759b7-def2-46a7-9ebe-36d39a3bfedd https://www.aljazeera.com/videos/2020/7/10/whistle-blower-protection-calls-to-defend-those-who-speak-up     Contact Andy https://nmlaw.squarespace.com/whistleblower-wins Government Accountability Project https://whistleblower.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/NewMayGovAcctProj_Blue-Wall-of-Silence-Report231.pdf Other Issues with Denver Sheriff https://www.9news.com/article/news/investigations/allegations-ties-gangs-denver-sheriffs-department-never-fully-investigated/73-8492c480-b933-448c-902a-598a50ba3274 https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/investigations/independent-monitor-denver-sheriffs-department-internal-affairs-investigation-flawed/73-529774856 https://www.westword.com/news/denver-sheriff-internal-affairs-bureau-to-be-put-under-civilian-control-11011209 https://www.westword.com/news/chris-colbrunos-naked-march-at-center-of-denver-sheriff-whistleblower-lawsuit-6771556         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Colorado Newsline Journalist Chase Woodruff. Over the past several weeks, Aurora, Colorado has been thrust into the national spotlight thanks to right wing media and politicians. Despite their many sensationalist claims, Aurora and the state at large have not in fact been taken over by Venezuelan gangs. Today's episode is meant to help compile reporting and walk through some of the "evidence" that have been paraded out so that you can have a more informed understanding of how we got here.   Guests: Chase Woodruff, Journalist, Colorado Newsline   Resources: Aurora City Council and The Public Defender https://x.com/maxamillianlevy/status/1778532516099772871 https://x.com/PDefenselessPod/status/1767741717598421010 https://x.com/PDefenselessPod/status/1762647344493809895 https://x.com/PDefenselessPod/status/1715131506861945192 The July 28 Incident https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1036818568011331 https://sentinelcolorado.com/metro/aurora-cops-counter-social-media-accounts-of-unruly-throng-at-aurora-shopping-center-watching-venezuelan-election-results/ https://www.facebook.com/DanielleForAurora/posts/1012880767513650?ref=embed_post https://www.facebook.com/AuroraCOPD/posts/misinformation-has-spread-on-social-media-regarding-the-large-gathering-on-sunda/875139524650906/ Danelle Jurinsky on Fox News https://www.foxnews.com/video/6361740992112 https://www.foxnews.com/us/suspected-tren-de-aragua-gang-members-aurora-colorado-released-1000-bond https://www.foxnews.com/video/6361627530112 https://www.foxnews.com/video/6361224247112 https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/auroras-violent-gang-problem-didnt-happen-over-night https://www.foxnews.com/video/6361582011112 Coverage of The Venezuelan Gang https://x.com/dcwoodruff/status/1831748770197074264 https://denverite.com/2024/09/04/venezuelan-gang-aurora-colorado-factcheck/ https://coloradonewsline.com/2024/09/04/disputing-claims-of-gang-takeover-aurora-tenants-protest-slumlord-owner/ https://sentinelcolorado.com/metro/aurora-committed-to-shutting-down-slum-lord-apartment-complex-7-a-m-tuesday/ https://sentinelcolorado.com/metro/aurora-committed-to-shutting-down-slum-lord-apartment-complex-7-a-m-tuesday/ OP ED by Sengenberger https://denvergazette.com/opinion/columns/venezuelan-gangs-run-amok-in-aurora-jimmy-sengenberger/article_05c9423e-55b1-532d-b42e-88ff82ccc031.html Thread with the Letter https://x.com/PDefenselessPod/status/1832177118240759833  Issues with Gang Databases https://scholarship.law.stjohns.edu/lawreview/vol94/iss4/11/ https://www.naacpldf.org/press-release/ldf-responds-to-department-of-investigations-findings-regarding-the-nypds-criminal-group-database/ https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-14/california-bars-police-from-using-lapd-records-in-gang-database-as-scandal-widens https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-24/california-police-urged-to-stop-using-gang-database-deemed-biased https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/dcs-gang-database-highlights-unconstitutional-systems-nationwide-2022-01-19/        Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Jessica Pishko to discuss her new book The Highest Law in the Land: How the Unchecked Power of Sheriffs Threatens Democracy. So far on the show, Hunter has spent a lot of time discussing the corruption and abuses of police and prosecutors, but the show has not spent much time discussing the issues of sheriffs. Thanks to years of incredible investigative journalism, Jessica provides an in depth and distributing account for how sheriffs around the country are posing a threat to civil liberties and our systems of checks and balances.   Guests: Jessica Pishko, Lawyer, Journalist, and Author   Resources: Pick up a copy of the book here https://www.amazon.com/Highest-Law-Land-Unchecked-Threatens/dp/0593471318 Check out Jessica's Substack https://sheriffs.substack.com/ Follow Jessica on Twitter https://x.com/JessPish?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Mark Lamb Prison Controversy https://azluminaria.org/2023/09/29/pinal-sheriff-mark-lambs-office-spent-200k-on-guns-and-ammo-from-an-inmate-welfare-fund/ Joe Arpaio https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/federal-court-rules-arizona-sheriff-joe-arpaio-violated-us-constitution https://www.npr.org/2021/10/29/1050490391/joe-arpaio-legal-costs-100-million-arizona-sheriff       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Lisa Wayne, the Executive Director of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. In this episode, Lisa and Hunter discuss how NACDL is trying to help give Public and Private Defenders the tools, skills, and policies they need to fight for their clients in and out of the court room.   Guests: Lisa Wayne, Executive Director, National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers   Resources:   Trial Penalty https://www.nacdl.org/Landing/TheTrialPenalty NACDL https://www.nacdl.org/ https://www.facebook.com/NACDL https://x.com/NACDL https://www.instagram.com/nacdl/ https://www.tiktok.com/@nacdlofficial     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is by two Colorado State Public Defenders, James Hardy and Kayleigh TenBarge. When this episode was first recorded, James, Kayleigh, and Hunter were primarily focused on a piece of legislation that the Defenders Union of Colorado attempted and failed to get through the state house. That bill sought to get workload standards in place in Colorado by mid-2025. After recording that segment, an audit of the Colorado State Public Defender dropped, and revealed that at least 46% and maybe as many as 99% of Public Defenders in Colorado are exceeding workloads. Considering that, OSPD has stated they will get a workload standard by mid-2026. But why the wait? What will happen in the interim? What relief will come to an increasingly overloaded system?   Guests: Kayleigh TenBarge, Public Defender, Colorado, Secretary, Defenders Union of Colorado James Hardy, Appellate Public Defender, Colorado, Executive Board Co-Chair, Defenders Union of Colorado     Resources: Audit of the Colorado Public Defender https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/documents/audits/2354p_office_of_the_state_public_defender.pdf Defenders Union of Colorado https://www.defendersunionco.org/ Defenders Union of Colorado Back Bill https://www.lawweekcolorado.com/article/defenders-union-of-colorado-backs-public-defender-workload-study-bill/ Ethics Opinion https://www.cobar.org/Portals/COBAR/11.07.22/FINAL%20Opinion%20146%20-%20duty%20of%20workload%20opinion(7184264.1).pdf?ver=RVD5XQ5MbrWfJOOOtcABBw%3d%3d) Bill https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1289 Email Kayleigh tenbargekayleigh@gmail.com Email DUC executiveboard@defendersunionco.org  Defenders Union of Colorado Instagram https://www.instagram.com/defenders_union_of_colorado/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Professor Rachel Kincaid to talk about her recent law review article about the junk science excited delirium. Through her research, we can trace how this science steeped in racism has been able to infect the legal system and provide police a shield for their unlawful uses of force.   Guests: Rachel Kincaid, Professor of Law, Baylor University   Resources:   Read Rachel's Article https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4831202 Professor Kincaid's Faculty Page https://law.baylor.edu/person/rachel-kincaid     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by our first North Carolina Public Defender, Beth Stang. Today, we will be discussing all that is going right, going wrong, and what the future holds for Public Defense in Beth's office that covers Henderson, Transylvania, and Polk counties.   Guests: Beth Stang, Chief Public Defender, Henderson, Transylvania, and Polk County, North Carolina   Resources: Email Beth beth.w.stang@nccourts.org     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Alex Kornya to discuss the intersection between the criminal and civil legal systems. Last time, Alex detailed how fines and fees abuse people in the criminal and civil legal systems, and today, Alex joins us to discuss crime nuisance ordinances and "Crime Free" Housing programs.   Guests: Alex Kornya, Litigation Director and General Counsel, Iowa Legal Aid   Resources:   2020 story from the Atlantic about this issue and some history:   https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/crime-free-housing-lets-police-influence-landlords/605728/   HUD guidance on how crime nuisance ordinances may violate the Fair Housing Act: https://www.hud.gov/sites/documents/FINALNUISANCEORDGDNCE.PDF   DOJ Reinforces Previous Guidance on Crime Nuisance  https://www.justice.gov/d9/2024-08/doj_crime-free_and_nuisance_letter.pdf?utm_campaign=justicegrants&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery   Justice Department Secures Landmark Agreement with City of Anoka, Minnesota, to End Disability Discrimination in "Crime-Free" Housing Program https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-secures-landmark-agreement-city-anoka-minnesota-end-disability     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by journalist Jeremiah Hayden. Over the past several months, Jeremiah has been covering the reality for homeless people in Grants Pass, Oregon. If you are familiar with that town, it is likely because it was the town at the center of the recent Supreme Court case saying it was okay to criminalize homeless people. Instead of diving into the decision, Jeremiah is here to help people understand what it was like for a homeless person living in the town and what will happen now that their very existence can be criminalized.   at around 55 minutes, Hunter said the city of Vail paid $26 million to not build affordable housing. The actual figure is $17 million https://coloradosun.com/2023/09/21/vail-condemnation-bighorn-housing-land/#:~:text=The%20Town%20of%20Vail%20will,the%20town%20and%20the%20company.       Guests: Jeremiah Hayden, Staff Reporter, Street Roots, Portland Oregon   Resources: Street Roots https://www.streetroots.org/ Street Roots Reporting on Grants Pass https://www.streetroots.org/news/archive/grants%2520pass Grants Pass Decision https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-175_19m2.pdf Martin v Boise https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2019/04/01/15-35845.pdf Gospel Mission Rescue https://kobi5.com/news/grants-pass-mayor-reacts-to-controversial-video-posted-by-gospel-mission-227140/  The Appeal's Coverage on Policies post Grants Pass https://theappeal.org/supreme-court-homelessness-grants-pass-ruling-camping-bans/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Alexandra Bailey, senior campaign strategist with the Sentencing Project, to discuss how her and a coalition of amazing activists were able to get a Domestic Violence Survivor Justice Act passed in Oklahoma.   Guests: Alexandra Bailey, Senior Campaign Strategist, The Sentencing Project   Resources: OK Survivor Justice Coalition https://oksurvivorjusticecoalition.org/legislation Sentencing Project https://www.sentencingproject.org/ Email Alexandra abailey@sentencingproject.org Coverage of the Bill https://boltsmag.org/oklahoma-survivors-act/ https://www.sentencingproject.org/press-releases/oklahoma-survivor-justice-coalition-applauds-governor-for-signing-the-oklahoma-survivors-act/ https://www.sentencingproject.org/newsletter/oklahoma-survivors-act-overcomes-veto/ https://www.kjrh.com/news/local-news/just-the-start-domestic-violence-survivors-react-to-new-law https://ktul.com/news/local/one-on-one-ok-gov-stitt-champions-the-newly-passed-domestic-violence-bill-survivor-victime-abuse-governor-oklahoma-justice-act       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Ricardo Garcia and joining the show for the first time Marcus Huntley. On today's show, Ricardo and Marcus detail how they were able to get a mobile court established in Los Angeles that brings court to a location that is easier for their clients to access.   Guests: Ricardo Garcia, Chief Public Defender, Los Angeles Public Defender Marcus Huntley, Head Deputy of Collaborative & Restorative Justice, Los Angeles Public Defender     Resources: Email Marcus MHuntley@pubdef.lacounty.gov Email Ricardo RGarcia@pubdef.lacounty.gov   Articles on Community Court https://abc7.com/post/la-county-community-outreach-court-program-life-altering/14834255/ https://lacounty.gov/2024/03/21/los-angeles-county-public-defenders-office-announces-collaborative-launch-of-community-outreach-court-coc/ https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-03-21/l-a-leaders-launch-new-program-to-help-unhoused-people-navigate-court-system       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Erica Nichols Cook, an Iowa State Public Defender and Director of the Iowa State Public Defense Wrongful Conviction Unit. On today's episode, we are discussing the case of Mr. Bill Beeman, a client of Erica's. In this case you will hear about a shoddy investigation, Brady violations, ineffective assistance of counsel, and the destruction of evidence that would exonerate Mr. Beeman.     Guests: Erica Nichols Cook, Director Wrongful Conviction Unit, Iowa Public Defender     Resources: Drake Law School Wrongful Conviction Clinic https://www.drake.edu/law/clinics-centers/clinic/wrongfulconvictionsclinic/ Contact Erica enicholscook@spd.state.ia.us West Virginia Law Review Article Young Blood https://researchrepository.wvu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6199&context=wvlr       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Kathrina "Kasia" Szymborski Wolfkot from the Brennan Center for Justice. On today's episode, Hunter and Kasia explore a rare area for hope on the show: State Courts. While much of the focus of teaching and discussion about our legal system starts and ends with the Supreme Court, state courts offer a path to meaningful, major changes to our criminal and constitutional legal systems.     Guests: Kathrina (Kasia) Szymborski Wolfkot, Senior Counsel, Brenan Center for Justice, Managing Editor of the State Court Report     Resources: Commonweatth v Mattis https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ma-supreme-judicial-court/115703895.html New Yorker on State Supreme Courts https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/06/10/can-state-supreme-courts-preserve-or-expand-rights State Court Report https://statecourtreport.org/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by the Sixth Amendment Center's Deputy Director Aditi Goel. This time, Hunter and Aditi the Sixth Amendment Center's newest report on the state of Public Defense on the island of Guam. Relative to Public Defense systems in the continental United States, Guam's Public Defender system is in its infancy, but the problems are familiar. Lack of independence, lack of lawyers, and an Attorney General who thinks better Public Defense=more crime all create a system that is in desperate need of help. Fortunately, the Public Defender Community on the island are deeply committed to getting Guam's Public Defender system to where it needs to be.   Guests: Aditi Goel, Deputy Director, Sixth Amendment Center     Resources: Sixth Amendment Center Report on Guam https://6ac.org/guam-report-finds-undue-judicial-influence-over-indigent-defense/ Guam AG comments https://www.postguam.com/news/local/excellent-way-to-promote-crime-ag-opposes-public-defender-raises/article_c7900544-a83a-11ed-85d5-e35c64218b11.html     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by professor Samantha Simon, an Assistant Professor of Sociology at the University of Arizona. This episode is a deep dive into Professor Simon's book, Before the Badge: How the Academy Training Shapes Police Violence. In it, Professor Simon embed herself into various police academy training programs to try and understand how police academies select, train, and prepare the next generation of police officers. Through her work, we gain an excellent insight into the challenges with changing the culture of violence that is so prevalent in American policing.   Guests: Samantha Simon PhD, Professor of Sociology, University of Arizona     Resources: Professor Simon's Faculty Page https://sociology.arizona.edu/person/samantha-simon Pick up a Copy of Before the Badge https://nyupress.org/9781479813278/before-the-badge/ Coverage of SrA Roger Fortson https://weartv.com/news/local/okaloosa-county-community-rallies-for-justice-at-town-hall-after-sra-fortsons-shooting https://weartv.com/news/local/hurlburt-field-airman-identified-as-man-shot-dead-in-officer-involved-shooting# https://weartv.com/news/local/okaloosa-county-sheriffs-office-fires-deputy-involved-in-fatal-air-force-airman-shooting#  Donate to SrA Roger Fortson's GoFundMe https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-for-roger-fortsons-family?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet-first-launch&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer&fbclid=IwY2xjawEozoVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHcJZA1zzyqnX9Gj0dRPFSA-dHsXjCSwYo7rgUtqYxhV5ht-z5vqGwvKqUg_aem_vERgrg-mtU7gJj4lZ281cw     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

Today, Hunter is joined by Jim Billings, the Executive Director of the Maine Commission on Public Defense Services. At the very start of the show, Hunter spoke with then Executive Director of the Maine Commission on Indigent Legal Services, Justin Andrus, to discuss the problems facing Maine Public Defense. As a reminder, Maine was the only state that relied 100% on contract lawyers and no full time public defense offices. Since then, the crisis has only worsened. There are hundreds of people currently without counsel, and while the long term outlook looks promising, the short to medium term outlook face serious problems.     Guests: Jim Billings, Executive Director, Maine Commission on Public Defense Services     Resources: Maine Unrepresented Crisis https://www.aclumaine.org/en/mainesgrowingcrisis Man released after bail lowered due to lack of Public Defenders https://www.necn.com/news/local/shortage-of-public-defenders-in-maine-allowed-release-of-man-who-caused-fiery-standoff/3261950/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by University of Utah law Professor, Matthew Tokson, to discuss his most recent law review article The Reality of the Good Faith Exception. For those unfamiliar with it, the good faith exception is a way that the courts have side stepped unconstitutional actions by police and prosecutors. Specifically, if a cop executes a search, but it later turns out that it was based on an illegal warrant, that will not matter so long as the officer acted in good faith. How can we so easily excuse violations of the Constitution and what does it mean for our right to privacy? The answers to those questions and more are found on this episode!   Guests: Matthew Tokson, Professor of Law, University of Utah   Resources: US v Leon https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/468/897/ The Reality of the Good Faith Exception Article https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4414248   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke once again with Radley Balko, a long-time investigative journalist, to discus his most recent reporting on public defense in Florida and Georgia. As has been discussed on the show previously, both states are struggling to meet the promises of Gideon. For Florida, the state has continued to move in a "tough on crime" direction and seems fine with leaving public defense ill equipped to handle the cases. In Georgia, the lack of independence leaves the system unable to properly advocate for its needs and the needs of their clients.   Guests: Radley Balko, Investigative Journalist   Resources: Read Radley's Coverage Here https://radleybalko.substack.com/p/the-states-of-indigent-defense-part-6eb     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter spoke with the Chief Federal Public Defender for the District of Kansas to discuss independence, or the lack thereof, for federal public defenders. Unlike many state systems, the federal system is at the mercy of the federal judiciary. As a result of this judicial oversight, the federal public defenders can be hesitant to be as vocal and aggressive in their public advocacy. Over the past year, the hiring freeze for federal public defense demonstrated the pressing need to remove the federal public defenders out from the control of the bench.     Guests: Melody Brannon, Chief Federal Public Defender, District of Kansas Resources:     Annual Federal Defenders Reports https://www.uscourts.gov/statistics-reports/defender-services-annual-report-2022 https://www.uscourts.gov/statistics-reports/defender-services-annual-report-2023 NACDL Coverage on Lack of Independence https://www.nacdl.org/Article/August2015-InsideNACDLAFundamentalFlawint 2017 REPORT OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACT https://www.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/2017_report_of_the_ad_hoc_committee_to_review_the_criminal_justice_act-revised_2811.9.17.29_0.pdf NACDL Testimony to Judicial Conference https://www.nacdl.org/getattachment/84b11595-12a0-43d9-89ed-6af4fd732d84/gerry-morris-testimony.pdf Hiring Freeze https://rollcall.com/2023/10/13/federal-public-defenders-warn-proposed-funding-would-cause-layoffs-court-delays/ Eval of Interim Recommendations from the Cardone Report https://cjastudy.fd.org/sites/default/files/Evaluation-of-the-Interim-Recommendations-from-the-Cardone-Report_9.7.23_NoID.pdf     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter spoke once again w/Bob Kolstad and for the first time Veronica Surges. Both are public defenders in the state of Minnesota, and they joined the show to discuss how the organized a strike authorization and how that threat of a strike helped them secure the largest pay raises in the history of Minnesota Public Defense.   Guests: Bob Kolstad, Public Defender, Hennepin County, Minnesota Veronica Surges, Public Defender, 6th District, Minnesota   Resources:   Contact Bob bob@robertkolstad.com Read About the Strike Threat and It's Results https://minnesotareformer.com/2023/07/11/minnesota-public-defenders-to-get-as-much-as-66000-raises-under-tentative-agreement/#:~:text=The%20salary%20of%20a%20first,state%20Board%20of%20Public%20Defense.       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter kicks off a week about Public Defense in Minnesota by speaking with the Chief Public Defender of the State, Bill Ward. Throughout this episode, Bill and Hunter discuss workloads, workload refusal, the recent budgetary victories he's helped secure, and what is needed to ensure Public Defenders in Minnesota are not drowning in cases.   Guests: Bill Ward, Chief Public Defender, Minnesota     Resources: Minnesota Public Defender Website https://www.pubdef.state.mn.us/ Minnesota Public Defender Twitter https://x.com/mnbdpubdefense Bill Ward Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-ward-a0aa4024/?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pubdef.state.mn.us%2F       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter is joined by long time Capital Defender, Sharon Turlington. Today, the two discuss cases that bookended Sharon's career in Missouri. Both cases involved an in the weeds evidentiary rule that prohibits testimony that points to the guilt of a person who is not on trial. In one of her earliest cases, this rule kept the jury from hearing that a third party ADMITTED TO COMMITING THE CRIME IN QUESITON. In her last case, it kept the jury from hearing that FIVE people pointed to another person who had far more evidence pointing his direction. Together with the episodes from the past two days, this episode highlights the many ways the deck is stacked against criminal defendants.   Guests: Sharon Turlington, Long Time Capital Public Defender, Missouri Resources: The Cases State v Malik Nettles ED74494 (1999) https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/mo-court-of-appeals/1163320.html State v Kylr Yust WD84633 (2023) https://law.justia.com/cases/missouri/court-of-appeals/2023/wd84633.html   Contact Sharon sharonturlington@icloud.com     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter is joined by Jason Gain, a West Virginia Post Conviction defense attorney. On this episode, the two continue the miniseries covering the dangers of convictions secured through uncorroborated evidence. This time, we discuss the recent victory that Jason secured for his client, Lamont Dees. After more than five years of incarceration, Mr. Dees was freed because his conviction was secured thanks to the help of one cop's perjury, his attorneys ineffective assistance of counsel, and the willingness of prosecutors to pursue cases based on uncorroborated witness statements. As is so often the case, compare how easy it is to put an innocent person away and how difficult it is to free an innocent person.     Guests: Jason Gain, Post Conviction Defense Attorney, West Virginia     Resources: Read About Mr. Dees story https://www.loshmountainlegal.com/post/dees-freed-habeas-win-in-west-virginia Contact Jason https://www.loshmountainlegal.com/contact     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter is joined by Eric Tindal, a criminal defense attorney in Iowa. Today's discussion focuses on the question, how much evidence does it take to convict someone. Specifically, Hunter and Eric discussed how a single uncorroborated testimony can be sufficient to secure a conviction. This episode kicks off a miniseries comparing what evidence is perfectly fine for prosecutors to rely on and what evidence is barred from even being heard when the defense wants to use it.     Guests: Eric Tindal, Criminal Defense Attorney, Iowa     Resources: Email Eric eric@keeganlegal.com   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter is joined by Lenora Easter, a candidate for the Public Defender position in Orange and Osceola Counties. As a former Bronx Defender and member of Partners for Justice, Lenora understands the importance of a holistic defense practice. In her adopted home of Orange and Osceola Counties, Lenora sees an absence of that holistic practice and a loud voice in the community as a short coming of the current Public Defender practice. By becoming the elected Public Defender for the circuit, Lenora hopes to inject Public Defense with a fresh slate of ideas, programs, and energy needed to revitalize Public Defense.     Guests: Lenora Easter, Candidate for Public Defender of the 9th Judicial District, Orange and Osceola County, FL   Resources: Lenora Easter Website https://www.lenoraeaster.com/ Lenora Easter Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lenoraeasterforpublicdefender/ Register to Vote Florida https://registertovoteflorida.gov/home   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter is joined by two amazing guests from the ACLU of Pennsylvania. Vic Walczak and Veronica Miller join the show to discuss the newest ACLU lawsuit being brought against Pennsylvania for its failure to adequately fund public defense. As we heard last week on the show, things in Pennsylvania Public Defense are failing because of Pennsylvania utterly failing to meet its obligations as a state to fund Public Defense, but why sue now? After all, under Governor Shapiro, the state has allocated its first money towards Public Defense ever. As you will here today, this lawsuit has been a long time coming, and hopefully, with it will come the types of overhaul necessary to ensure the promise of Gideon is fulfilled in Pennsylvania.     Guests: Vic Walczak, Legal Director, ACLU of Pennsylvania Veronica Miller, Senior Policy Counsel for Criminal Legal Reform, ACLU of Pennsylvania     Resources: ACLU of PA Twitter: https://x.com/aclupa Website: https://www.aclupa.org/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aclupa YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/aclupa Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aclupa/ Complaint: https://www.aclupa.org/sites/default/files/field_documents/warren_v_commonwealth_petition_for_review_-_final.pdf Read more about the case: https://www.aclupa.org/en/defenders UPenn Study: https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/news/16737-significant-public-defender-shortage 2011 Report: http://jsg.legis.state.pa.us/resources/documents/ftp/publications/2011-265-indigent%20defense.pdf Law Suit Against Luzerne County https://www.aclupa.org/en/cases/kuren-v-luzerne-county-formerly-flora-v-luzerne-county     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter is joined by journalist Andrew Pantazi to tell the story of Florida's worst Chief Public Defender, Matt Shirk. For more than a decade, Andrew and his colleagues have been covering the story of Shirk who served two terms as Jacksonville's elected public defender. During his time as the chief, Shirk oversaw a systemic practice of sexual harassment, drove out some his best attorneys and replaced them with his incompetent or unqualified friends, and attempted to get his juvenile client tried as an adult. Mercifully, Shirk was recently disbarred, but how did he come to this position, how did he stay there, why did it take so long for accountability to come, and ultimately, what does this say about public defense in Florida? All that and more in today's episode!   Guests: Andrew Pantazi, Editor, The Tributary, Jacksonville, Florida     Resources: Tributary Website https://jaxtrib.org/ Follow Andrew on Twitter https://x.com/apantazi?lang=en Coverage of Matt Shirk https://jaxtrib.org/2024/03/14/former-jacksonville-public-defender-matt-shirk-disbarred/ https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/crime/2017/01/01/public-defender-matt-shirk-had-lowest-paid-attorneys-paid-friends-generously/15737626007/ https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/crime/2016/08/24/matt-shirks-top-assistant-has-been-ineffective-four-times-raising/15722013007/ https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/2019/08/01/former-jacksonville-public-defender-matt-shirk-gave-away-guns-money-after-failed-reelection/4546395007/ https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/politics/2016/08/22/public-defender-matt-shirk-has-moved-scandals-and-hopes-voters-have-too/15721761007/ https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/politics/elections/local/2018/12/21/more-than-five-years-after-his-scandals-matt-shirk-still-hasnt-faced-any-discipline/6576816007/ https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/politics/2013/08/25/stub-295/15818394007/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter is joined by three Public Defenders from the state of Pennsylvania to get a feel for how Public Defense is fairing outside of the Philadelphia. Autumn Johnson, Sara Jacobson, and Samuel Encarnacion join the show to discuss what's happening in Mercer County, Lancaster County, and around the state. Recently, Pennsylvania dedicated its first ever state level funding for Public Defense, but is it too little too late? With a new ACLU lawsuit having just dropped, it will be interesting how the state responds to the crisis of Public Defense in Pennsylvania?     Guests: Sara Jacobson, Executive Director, Public Defender Association of Pennsylvania Samuel Encarnacion, First Assistant Public Defender, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Autumn Johnson, Chief Public Defender, Mercer County, Pennsylvania     Resources: UPenn Public Defender Study https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/news/16737-significant-public-defender-shortage PDAP https://www.papublicdefenders.com/ Email Sara sjacobson.pdap@gmail.com  Email Autumn aljohnson@mercercountypa.gov Email Sam encarnas@lancastercountypa.gov     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter is joined by three members of the Bronx Defenders Union, Tyler Johnson, Katerine Azcona, and Marlene Marte. This episode comes on the heels of the Bronx Defenders Union authorizing a strike starting July 1. Over the past several months, the union and leadership have been unable to come to terms on a contract, and now, we could see the first strike in NY Public Defense since 1993. What is driving it? Why has the union reached this point? All that and more on today's episode!   Guests: Tyler Johnson, Legal Advocate, Civil Action Practice, Bronx Defenders Marlene Marte, Immigration Legal Advocate, Bronx Defenders Katherine Azcona, Staff Attorney, Family Defense, Bronx Defenders   Resources: BxD Union Twitter https://x.com/BxDUnion?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor BxD Union Instagram https://www.instagram.com/bxdunion/?hl=en  If you'd like to support the Bronx Defender's Union while they strike, you can donate here    https://givebutter.com/communitystrikefund    Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter is joined by Brooke Burns and Angela Chang, two Ohio Public Defenders working tirelessly to stop the return of the "Super Predator" myth. Over the past 40 years, the language has changed, but the outcome has remained the same: our communities have responded to real and perceived rises in crime by policing and incarcerating certain groups of young people. That practice is alive and well in Ohio, but with the work of people like Brooke and Angela, communities have a shot at creating accountability systems for kids that do not rely on the criminal legal system.     Guests: Angela Chang, Director of Youth Defense Division, Hamilton County, Ohio Brooke Burns, Managing Counsel, Youth Defense, Ohio Public Defender Resources: Ohio Office of the Public Defender https://opd.ohio.gov/ Hamilton County Public Defender https://www.hamiltoncountypd.org/ https://www.instagram.com/hamcopubdef/?locale=kk-KZ Coverage of the Killing of Tavion Koonce-Williams https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-police-release-body-camera-video-officer-shooting-15-year-old-boy-rcna147023     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter sat down for a powerful conversation with Scarlett Lewis. Scarlett's son Jesse Lewis was one of the children murdered in the Sandy Hook school shooting. In the wake of this tragedy, Scarlett grappled with the grief, sadness, and anger that any person would face. Yet, Scarlett wanted to choose a different path than anger. So Scarlett founded the Jesse Lewis Choose Love Movement with the goal of teaching children social-emotional learning strategies to try and address violence at its roots.   Guests: Scarlett Lewis, Founder, Jesse Lewis Choose Love Movement     Resources: Choose Love Movement Socials https://chooselovemovement.org/ https://x.com/ChooseLoveM https://www.facebook.com/JLChooseLove https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-jesse-lewis-choose-love-foundation/ https://www.instagram.com/chooselovemovement/ https://www.youtube.com/user/chooselovefoundation Contact Scarlett https://x.com/scarlettmlewis?lang=en A GOP Texas school board member campaigned against schools indoctrinating kids. Then she read the curriculum. https://www.texastribune.org/2024/05/15/texas-granbury-isd-school-board-courtney-gore/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *Any Comments made by Myself are mine and mine alone and do not reflect the views of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter is joined by Chesa Boudin, the former District Attorney of San Francisco, to discuss his transition from public defender to prosecutor and the challenges he faced in trying to make systemic change. He shares examples of cases where he felt limited in his ability to create meaningful impact as a public defender, leading him to pursue a career in prosecution. Boudin also discusses the difficulties of implementing progressive policies within a prosecutor's office, including the resistance from the old guard and the limitations imposed by labor rules. They highlight how police departments and unions can undermine democracy at the local level and the challenges faced by progressive prosecutors. The discussion also touches on the difficulty of messaging and getting voters on board with criminal justice reform.   Guests: Chesa Boudin, Executive Director, Criminal Law and Justice Center, Berkley Law   Resources: Chesa's Faculty Page https://www.law.berkeley.edu/our-faculty/faculty-profiles/chesa-boudin/ Follow Chesa on Twitter https://x.com/chesaboudin?lang=en Eric Salwell on Prosecutors https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/this-is-not-normal-swalwell-calls-out-soft-on-violent-crime-prosecutors-in-tweet/ Reports on Crime in California https://www.cjcj.org/reports-publications?page=4       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter sat down with Eric Whitcher, Director of the Pennington County Public Defender Office. Until recently, South Dakota and Pennsylvania shared the inglorious distinction of being the last two states in the country to provide 0 dollars towards public defense at the state level. Finally after years of advocacy, it appears South Dakota is about to change that. Eric joins the show to discuss the statewide commission that is primed to start a massive overhaul of the Public Defense delivery in the state.     Guests: Eric Whitcher, Director, Pennington County Public Defense, South Dakota Resources: Pennington County Public Defender Website https://www.pennco.org/pdo Eric's Linked in https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-whitcher-07b9aa295?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F HB 1057 https://sdlegislature.gov/Session/Bill/24943 Task Force Report https://ujs.sd.gov/uploads/committees/Indigent/ILSTaskForceFinalReportRecommendations.pdf       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter sat down with once again with Travis Finck, the Executive Director of the North Dakota Commission on Legal Counsel for Indigents. This time, we discuss the precarious place that Public Defense is in the state. With major staffing shortfalls, the full time Public Defenders have massive vacancy rates, and with low contract pay, there are only so many private counsels willing to take on attorneys. What can be done to avert a crisis?  Hopefully it starts with the legislatures recent realization that there just might be a crisis if they continue to do nothing.   Guests: Travis Finck, Executive Director, North Dakota Commission on Legal Counsel for Indigents Resources: Link to Legislative Meeting with Video, Presentation and Report (video starts at 2:28) https://ndlegis.gov/events/2024/03/07/judiciary-committee News Coverage of the Issues https://northdakotamonitor.com/2024/03/14/public-defenders-underpaid-overworked-north-dakota-report-says/ https://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-regional/crime-courts/public-defenders-underpaid-overworked-north-dakota-report-says/article_76910028-f819-11ee-a575-8f6da532994a.html ND CLCI Website https://www.indigents.nd.gov/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter sat down with Grant Miller a Utah Public Defender running for Utah House District 24. Throughout the course of the show, Hunter and numerous guests have discussed the importance of getting the public defender experience into legislatures around the country. Part of the reason our laws are so skewed towards police and prosecutors is because police and prosecutors drastically outnumber the public defenders in the legislature. Grant aims to change that with a campaign that revolves around injecting the humanity that public defenders use in their daily fights for their clients.   Guests: Grant Miller, Public Defender and Candidate for Utah House District 24, Salt Lake City Resources: Grants Contacts and Websites https://www.grantmillerforhouse24.com/ https://www.instagram.com/grantistheguy/ https://x.com/grantistheguy_ https://www.linkedin.com/in/grant-miller-955700b0/ Secure a Ballot in Utah https://vote.utah.gov/learn-about-voting-by-mail-and-absentee-voting/ Election Day Vote Centers Salt Lake City https://slco.org/clerk/elections/voting-in-person/election-day-vote-centers/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter sat down with Duci Goncalves and Lael Chester to discuss how Massachusetts has started to reimagine how the criminal legal system treats emerging adults. As most of us remember, we didn't always make the best choices as children, and that questionable decision making didn't just improve the moment we turned 18. Yet in the criminal legal system, 18 is treated as a magic number where suddenly we assume you are a fully developed adult. With new brain science, we understand that 18 is not some magic number, and those between the ages of 18-25 still have a developing brain. To adhere to our understanding of modern brain science, Massachusetts is setting out on a new path to how the legal system handles emerging adult offenders.   Guests: Duci Goncalves, Deputy Chief Counsel, Youth Advocacy Division, Committee For Public Counsel Services, Massachusetts Lael Chester, Director, Emerging Adult Justice Project, Columbia University Justice Lab   Resources: Lael's Faculty Page https://justicelab.columbia.edu/people/lael-chester Massachusetts Changes LWOP for Emerging Adults https://www.bostonpoliticalreview.org/post/mass-supreme-court-raises-life-without-parole-sentencing-from-18-to-21#:~:text=January%2015%2C%202024%2C%20marked%20a,sent%20waves%20throughout%20the%20nation. Commonwealth v Robinson https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ma-supreme-judicial-court/115703587.html Commonwealth v Mattis https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ma-supreme-judicial-court/115703895.html Emerging Adult Innovation with CPCS a) Website page on the national EAJ Developmental Framework project: https://www.eajustice.org/ea-developmental-framework b) Announcement of the launch of the project: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5c6458c07788975dfd586d90/t/642b478230438b045ee02455/1680557954756/Columbia+Justice+Lab+Announcement+of+EAJ+Innovation+Sites+3.31.23.pdf c) JJIE article: https://jjie.org/2023/05/11/1442839/ Emerging Adult Information https://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/2021/07/22/reimagine-juvenile-justice-emerging-adults-gen-z/ideas/essay/ Raise the Age Campaign  https://www.raisetheagema.org/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN  *Any Comments made by Myself are mine and mine alone and do not reflect the views of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter is joined once again by University of Michigan Professor of Law Eve Primus. So far, Eve and Hunter have discussed Public Defender Systems, Structures, and how Law Schools can do better at getting students interested in Public Defense. However, today's conversation is focused on her upcoming law review article about how courts around the country have eroded the famous Miranda warnings and what we can do about it.        Guests: Eve Primus, Professor of Law, University of Michigan     Resources:   The State[s] of Confession Law in a Post-Miranda World:  https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4742148   The Future of Confession Law: Toward Rules for the Voluntariness Test:  https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2540302     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN    *Any Comments made by Myself are mine and mine alone and do not reflect the views of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter is joined Lucian Dervan, Professor of Law and Director of Criminal Justice Studies at Belmont College and Founding Director of the Plea Bargaining Institute. For more than a decade, Lucian has been at the forefront of uncovering the troubling issues with America's plea deal driven criminal legal system. Lucian founded the Plea Bargaining Institute in order to bring together the latest and greatest research and caselaw on plea bargaining to help people challenge our plea bargaining system.     Guests: Lucian Dervan, Professor of Law and Director of Criminal Justice Studies, Belmont College of Law, Founding Director of the Plea Bargaining Institute     Resources: Plea Bargaining Institute https://pleabargaininginstitute.com/ Brady v US https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/397/742/ Lucian's Faculty Page https://www.belmont.edu/profiles/lucian-dervan/ 14 Principles of Plea Bargaining https://www.americanbar.org/groups/criminal_justice/publications/criminal-justice-magazine/2024/winter/fourteen-principles-path-forward-plea-bargaining-reform/ Plea Bargaining Study https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1000&context=jclc Follow Lucian https://x.com/luciandervan?lang=en       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN    *Any Comments made by Myself are mine and mine alone and do not reflect the views of the Colorao Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter is joined by another amazing guest from the Wren Collective, Adrienne Johnson. Today's conversation is about their report on Public Defense in Gwinnet County, Georgia. While there is a state wide Public Defender in Georgia, Gwinnet County has been able to maintain its independence from the state system. If Public Defender's in Gwinnett County want to maintain that independence, it is essential that they address some of the glaring problems in Public Defense that this report exposed.     Guests: Adrienne Johnson, Senior Counsel, Wren Collective     Resources: Read the Report Here https://www.wrencollective.org/_files/ugd/8fe8f0_ff1ad77fe24b47db9bb6fef98d6aad47.pdf     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN    *Any Comments made by Myself are mine and mine alone and do not reflect the views of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Justice Text Co-Founder Devshi Mehrotra to discuss how Justice Text is helping Public Defender Office's enter the digital era. This time, Devshi brought Elisabeth Pollock, Chief of the Champaign IL Public Defender Office, to talk about the serious digital overhaul Elisabeth undertook once she took charge of the office. Coming from the federal system, Elisabeth was used to a fully digital system, so it came as quiet a shock when Elisabeth realized that her new office in Champaign County was a completely paper-based system. Thankfully with the help of Justice Text, Elisabeth was able to quickly digitize the office and finally start analysing the countless hours of body camera generated by their cases.      Guests: Elisabeth Pollock, Chief Public Defender, Champaign County, Illinois Devshi Mehrotra, Co-Founder, Justice Text   Resources:   Justice Text https://justicetext.com/ Chicago Appleseed Fair Trial https://www.chicagoappleseed.org/ Elisabeth Contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/elisabeth-pollock-38377110/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN   *Any Comments made by Myself are mine and mine alone and do not reflect the views of the Colorao Office of the State Public Defender*

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Patricia Warth, Director of the NY Office of Indigent Legal Services. This time, Hunter and Patricia discuss the in the weeds budget moves that are threatening vital programs in New York Public Defense. Specifically, they talk about the failing family court system and how a sweep up of funds may endanger an already struggling practice.   Guests: Patricia Warth, Director, New York Office of Indigent Legal Services     Resources: Coverage of the Fund Sweep Up https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2024/03/22/legal-advocates-oppose-234m-funding-cut-from-public-defense/ https://www.nylpi.org/resource/ilsf-sweep-organization-sign-on-letter-3-21-24/ https://nysba.org/nysba-supports-funding-of-the-indigent-legal-services-fund/ ILS Website https://www.ils.ny.gov/node/7/ils-office Email Patricia Patricia.Warth@ils.ny.gov   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by the newest State Public Defender of California, Galit Lipa. As discussed on previous episodes, California has a county based public defender system. As such, Galit and her office sit in a limited role to help train public defenders around the state. Following a law suit and several reports highlighting the failings of public defense in California, Galit and her team could prove to be a pivotal voice in rethinking the delivery of California public defense.   Guests: Galit Lipa, State Public Defender, California Office of the State Public Defender   Resources: Contact Galit https://www.linkedin.com/in/galit-lipa/ OSPD https://www.ospd.ca.gov/ https://www.ospd.ca.gov/ospd-sharepoint-pages/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by Molly Gilbert and Jason Schwarz to discuss the plan to implement Public Defender workload standards across the state of Washington. Despite not being a centralized Public Defender system, the Public Defenders of Washington, spurred by the State Supreme Court, figured out how to work with the state bar to get workload standards. As they sit on the verge of getting enforceable standards approved by the State Supreme Court, Hunter, Molly, and Jason explore how these workload standards came to be and what other states can learn from this process.   Guests: Molly Gilbert, Investigator and Union President, Department of Public Defense, King County Washington Jason Schwarz, Director, Snohomish County, Washington Resources: News Coverage of New Workload Standards https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/washington-bar-approves-much-lower-caseloads-for-public-defenders/ https://www.king5.com/article/news/state/plan-ease-caseloads-public-defenders-bankrupt-some-counties/281-b67dcd4b-fe19-4608-ade5-4c297f29e0b4 https://www.wsba.org/connect-serve/committees-boards-other-groups/council-public-defense Publicola- New Caseload Standards Aim to Improve Ailing Public Defense System, But Could Take a Bite Out of County Budget   Email Jason Jason.Schwarz@co.snohomish.wa.us Email Molly mollygilbertseiu@gmail.com WSBA Meeting has been uploaded to Youtube,   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by Taylor Herbert, a Public Defender in Lan County Oregon to discuss civil commitment. As is often talked about on the show, the divide between the civil and criminal legal system is far smaller than many are willing to admit. Civil commitment is the process by which a person can be confined in a mental health facility against their will. Unlike a criminal process, which does not allow for you to be deprived of liberty unless you've been proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, civil commitment allows for a deprivation of liberty after only reaching clear and convincing evidentiary standard.  Why is this an issue? Why do we allow? What are the failings of civil commitment in Oregon? All that and more on this episode!   Guests: Taylor Herbert, Staff Attorney, Mental Health Division, Public Defender Services of Lane County, Oregon     Resources: ORS 426-427 https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/bills_laws/ors/ors426.html Email Taylor therbert@lanepds.org     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Public Interest lawyer Stephen Hanlon. This time, Hunter and Stephen are breaking down the five year plan that he hopes will fix Public Defense in Oregon. While it is surely an ambitious plan, this plan gives urges public defenders to do all that they can to force the powers that be to take the crisis seriously: case withdrawals. Guests: Stephen Hanlon, Public Interest Lawyer Resources: Oregon Report 5 Year Plan https://www.opb.org/article/2024/03/21/oregon-public-defense-report-more-attorneys/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by Lee Wachocki, a Public Defender and union leader in Portland, Oregon. As the Public Defender crisis continues in the state, this week is about figuring out how the state is responding. At the front line level, Lee reveals that little has functionally changed at his level to demonstrate the state is close to solving the problem. In fact, with Oregon recriminalizing drug possession, the state appears primed to super charge the issue.   Guests: Lee Wachocki, Public Defender, Multnomah County Resources: Multnomah County DA Debate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wehZ548c-OY DA Schmidt Endorsing Recriminalization Mike Schmidt Endorses Proposal to Recriminalize Hard Drugs (wweek.com)  Bad Reporting on Public Defender Caseload Record Number of People Face Criminal Charges in Multnomah County With No Defense Attorney (wweek.com) Impacts of Recriminalization https://www.axios.com/local/portland/2024/03/19/public-defender-crisis-recriminalization-oregon   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined Professor Robin Bernstein to discuss her newest book, Freeman's Challenge: The Murder that Shook America's Original Prison for Profit. When many of us think of the for-profit prisons, we think of the post slavery south at places like Parchman. However, that is not where the story started. Today, Robin joins the show to discuss Auburn State Prison and what we can learn from the history of for profit prisons.   Guests: Robin Bernstein, Dillon Professor of American History and Professor of African and African American Studies and of Studies of Women, Gender, & Sexuality, Harvard University Resources:  Order the Book Here https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/F/bo213968137.html   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by the powerful Dorsey Nunn. At 19, Dorsey was given a life sentence. Over the next 11 years, Dorsey would be exposed to violence, abuse, and the political education that would awaken in him a lifelong desire to fight our prison system. Today, Hunter talks with Dorsey about his new book, What Kind of Bird Can't Fly to discuss his lifetime of organizing for the rights of the current and formerly incarcerated.    Guests: Dorsey Nunn, Executive Director Legal Services for Prisoners with Children, Co-Founder All of Us or None, Co-Founder Formerly Incarcerated Convicted People and Family Movement   Resources:  Order the Book Here https://www.amazon.com/What-Kind-Bird-Cant-Fly/dp/1597146323 Legal Services for Prisoners with Children https://prisonerswithchildren.org/staff-and-board/ All of Us or None https://prisonerswithchildren.org/about-aouon/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined once again by Leah Nelson of Alabama Appleseed. This time, they are joined by Callie Greer, a Community Navigator at Appleseed, to discuss Appleseed's Afterward. This powerful report sought out to hear from victims and survivors of violence. As is often said on the show, the criminal legal system does a poor job of providing for the needs of all survivors of violence. In fact, the system often perpetuates the harm of those who need help following the tragic events in their life. By going to communities across Alabama, Appleseed hoped to capture the voice of so many people who want need more than just a criminal punishment to be made whole.     Guests: Leah Nelson, Research Director, Alabama Appleseed Callie Greer, Community Navigator, Alabama Appleseed   Resources: Read Afterward Here https://alabamaappleseed.org/afterward/ Alabama Appleseed https://alabamaappleseed.org/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by Brett Schandelson, the Director of the Montana Office of the State Public Defender. Last time he was one, we discussed his efforts to make Public Defense policy in Montana driven by data. Today, we discuss how those efforts have drastically turned the state system around. Specifically, Brett details how doing a better job of tracking cases and sticking to a workload standard has reduced turnover and helped retain Public Defenders throughout the state. Guests: Brett Schandelson, Director, Montana Office of the State Public Defender   Resources: Office of the State Public Defender https://publicdefender.mt.gov/ Agenda-DIBC-12-13-2023.pdf (mt.gov) 61080-OPD-QFR-Dec2023.pdf (mt.gov) Quick video on the OPD Quarterly Update (at meeting start) Brett's presentation 12/13/23 IBC OPD Section Materials https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Narrative-Response.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Fees-Assessed-and-Paid.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Ethical-Case-Management.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-FTE-Allocation.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Fees-Assessed-Q1-FY24.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Contractor-Capital-Hours-Q1-FY24.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Number-of-Matters-by-FTE-and-Contractors-Q1-FY24.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Number-of-Matters-Without-MCA-Violations-Q1-FY24.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Active-Matters-and-Weights-December-7-2023.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-HB-190-Annual-Plan-FY24.pdf https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-IBC-Update-Dec2023.pdf   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter sat down with Dr. Shameka Stewart, a juvenile forensic speech language pathologist. While speech language pathologists have long been around, Dr. Stewart is the first person to take the field and apply it to juvenile forensics. The promise of the field was on display as she served as an expert witness for the defense team during the trial of Nikolas Cruz. For those in the criminal defense community, this under utilized forensic science could prove to be one of the most important pieces of evidence against guilt or during mitigation.     Guests: Dr. Shameka Stewart, Juvenile Forensic Speech Language Pathologist     Resources: Contact Dr. Stewart https://www.juvforensicslp.com/ Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-stewart-032b5a96 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/drjuvenile_forensicslp/ Twitter https://twitter.com/drsstanford1     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by former NACDL President, Martin Sabelli. This time, Hunte and Martin are discussing a memo he put out while President about the Ahmaud Arbery murder trial. In that trial, Martin felt that the defense counsel improperly used racism as a tactic in their defense. Martin put out the memo because he felt that those in the criminal defense community, those who fight against systems of racism aught not use the tools of the very system that actively incarcerates so many of their clients. As such, today's episode is all about figuring out where the line is between individual advocacy and fighting systems of oppression.   Guests: Martín Sabelli, Former President, National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers   Resources:   Link to the Memo https://www.lawyerlegion.com/associations/criminal-defense/national-nacdl/news/1162/nation-39-s-criminal-defense-bar-opposes-dehumanizing-racist-language-used-in-the-trial-of-the-killing-of-ahmaud-arbery   Follow Martin on Twitter https://twitter.com/martin_sabelli?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                             Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Last summer, Hunter spoke with Central Florida criminal defense attorney Andrew Darling to discuss Governor DeSantis removing State Attorney Monique Worrell from office. At the time, Andrew and Hunter expressed their concerns that the primary reason for the removal was due to Worrell's willingness to prosecute cops. Today, Andrew is back to share how those fears have come to reality. In 2020, Andrew's client was shot by a cop. Originally, Worrell pursued the case, but with her gone, it took the new State Attorney just under 9 months to drop the case, but for a reason that you have to hear to believe.   Guests: Andrew Darling, Criminal Defense Attorney, Central Florida   Resources: Gov DeSantis' Executive Order Removing State Attorney Monique Worrell https://www.flgov.com/2023/08/09/governor-ron-desantis-suspends-state-attorney-monique-worrell-for-neglect-of-duty-and-incompetence/ Twitter Thread Explaining the Falsities in Gov DeSantis' Claims https://twitter.com/LutherEvers/status/1689672379776073728 Warren v. DeSantis https://casetext.com/case/warren-v-desantis-1 Follow Andrew on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MrDarling4 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrdarling4/ Darling Law: https://darlinglaw.com/ Orange County Court of Clerks 2023CF003924-A-O https://www.myorangeclerk.com/ Indictment of Orange County Deputy Bruce Stolk https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/04/01/orange-county-deputy-indicted-nearly-2-years-after-shooting-man-during-chase/ https://www.wftv.com/news/local/my-client-is-one-suffering-attorney-says-after-charges-dropped-against-deputy-who-shot-client/XLZ2AE55MVEKHKEWGZDG3PBQKE/  https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2024/03/12/state-attorney-drops-indictment-of-orange-county-deputy-for-2020-shooting-of-unarmed-man/ Prosecution Memo https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1CV_0RjsmVlqpdEvaZd8gNIJR8i0fhrVJ?usp=sharing     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Imagine for a moment, you have been accused of several crimes. At trial, you are found not guilty on all the charges except for one. Let's say that this is least serious of all your charges. While you wish you had been acquitted on all charges, 5/6 is pretty good. You anticipate a minor sentence, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel….but then you get to sentencing, and the judge starts saying your sentence is going to be just as severe as it would have if you had been found guilty of everything. How is it possible to get found not guilty but punished anyway? Today, Hunter spoke with criminal defense attorney Andrea Jaeger to discuss how the federal legal system allows for acquitted conduct sentencing.   Guests: Andrea Jaeger, Criminal Defense Attorney, Iowa   Resources: U.S. v Watts https://casetext.com/case/united-states-v-watts Coverage https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB11037 https://www.ussc.gov/about/news/press-releases/december-14-2023 https://reason.com/2023/12/20/sentencing-commission-again-proposes-restricting-judges-use-of-acquitted-conduct/ https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-durbin-introduce-bipartisan-bicameral-legislation-to-prohibit-punishment-of-acquitted-conduct     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter concludes the three-part series on criminalized domestic violence survivors by speaking with two women who survived, endured years of incarceration, and utilized the DVSJA to get a second chance at life. Trinity Copeland was sentenced to 25 years to life for 2nd degree murder and resentenced to time served and released in March 2023 under the Domestic Violence Survivors Justice Act (DVSJA), after serving approximately 11 years. She is currently a full-time college student majoring in Chinese Studies with a double minor in Spanish and French. Assia Serrano was sentenced to 18 years to life for felony murder and was resentenced and released in April 2021 under the DVSJA, after serving 17 years. Shortly after, she was deported to Panama where she currently resides.  Assia is a member of the Survivors Justice Project Advisory Group and an Osborne Speakers Bureau member who uses her personal experiences to advocate for criminal justice reform. She is a proud mother of two teenagers and a fierce advocate for her own and other children who have experienced parental incarceration. Through their stories, Hunter hopes for people to understand what our legal system must change to stop perpetuating cycles of harm.     Guests: Assia Serano, Survivors Justice Project Advisory Group and Osborne Speakers Bureau Trinity Copeland, Full Time College Student     Resources: NYILS Website https://www.ils.ny.gov/ Survivors Justice Project https://www.sjpny.org/ Background Material on the DVSJA ·        Video: Background on DVSJA passage (somewhat dated) ·        Some Legislative History (attached): o   2017 sponsor memo o   Opposition letter by District Attorney Association of the State of New York o   NY Correctional Association response to DA opposition letter ·        SJP DVSJA Resource Guide – we wrote this with incarcerated survivors/applicants as the primary audience ·        SJP/Sentencing Project Report ·        Abby Van Buren article on temporal nexus problem ·        Favorable decisions: o   Brenda WW decision ("mutually abusive" relationship did not foreclose DVSJA relief; abuse history must be considered cumulatively; considered applicant's extensive criminal history in context of her substance abuse, which was related to victimization) o   Patrice Smith decision (court must look at the "full picture" and contemplate cumulative impact of abuse) o   Liz L. decision (the fact that DV history was "factored in" to previous man 1 plea bargain did not make DVSJA resentencing inappropriate) ·        Not so favorable: o   People v. Williams (abuse or abusive relationship must be "ongoing" at the time of the offense) o   People v. Fisher (adopting Williams' temporal holding in case where trans-identifying young person had assaulted her parents, and no expert was called to attempt to explain connection between earlier physical abuse and offense) o   People v. B.N. (many bad holdings/antiquated approach to DV and trauma) ·        People v. Addimando – a study in contrasts (note that Nicole Addimando was finally released from prison last week): o   Trial court decision (denying DVSJA relief at initial sentencing for murder 2 in a case with extensively documented abuse; sentencing Nicole Addimando to 19-to-life) o   Appellate decision (reversing and resentencing her to 7.5 years) ·        Critique of the DVSJA by Survived & Punished   Some very optional reading, but good-to-know-about resources created by the DVSJA Statewide Defender Task Force: ·  Best Practices Manual for DVSJA Investigations ·  Guide to Working with Experts in DVSJA cases ·  Introduction Guide to Coercive Control for the DVSJA Attorney   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter continues the three-part series on criminalized domestic violence survivors by speaking with Elizabeth Isaacs, an appellate attorney with New York's Office of Indigent Legal Services. Specifically, the two discuss the Domestic Violence Survivor's Justice Act, a New York law designed to give post-relief to those whose incarceration is related to their victimization. While certainly not a perfect bill, it is an extremely important and necessary step to understand that people are not simply victims or perpetrators, and that we can attain justice while also acknowledging the humanity of those who did wrong.     Guests: Elizabeth Isaacs, Appellate Attorney, NY Office of Indigent Legal Services     Resources: NYILS Website https://www.ils.ny.gov/ Survivors Justice Project https://www.sjpny.org/ Background Material on the DVSJA ·        Video: Background on DVSJA passage (somewhat dated) ·        Some Legislative History (attached): o   2017 sponsor memo o   Opposition letter by District Attorney Association of the State of New York o   NY Correctional Association response to DA opposition letter ·        SJP DVSJA Resource Guide – we wrote this with incarcerated survivors/applicants as the primary audience ·        SJP/Sentencing Project Report ·        Abby Van Buren article on temporal nexus problem ·        Favorable decisions: o   Brenda WW decision ("mutually abusive" relationship did not foreclose DVSJA relief; abuse history must be considered cumulatively; considered applicant's extensive criminal history in context of her substance abuse, which was related to victimization) o   Patrice Smith decision (court must look at the "full picture" and contemplate cumulative impact of abuse) o   Liz L. decision (the fact that DV history was "factored in" to previous man 1 plea bargain did not make DVSJA resentencing inappropriate) ·        Not so favorable: o   People v. Williams (abuse or abusive relationship must be "ongoing" at the time of the offense) o   People v. Fisher (adopting Williams' temporal holding in case where trans-identifying young person had assaulted her parents, and no expert was called to attempt to explain connection between earlier physical abuse and offense) o   People v. B.N. (many bad holdings/antiquated approach to DV and trauma) ·        People v. Addimando – a study in contrasts (note that Nicole Addimando was finally released from prison last week): o   Trial court decision (denying DVSJA relief at initial sentencing for murder 2 in a case with extensively documented abuse; sentencing Nicole Addimando to 19-to-life) o   Appellate decision (reversing and resentencing her to 7.5 years) ·        Critique of the DVSJA by Survived & Punished   Some very optional reading, but good-to-know-about resources created by the DVSJA Statewide Defender Task Force: ·  Best Practices Manual for DVSJA Investigations ·  Guide to Working with Experts in DVSJA cases ·  Introduction Guide to Coercive Control for the DVSJA Attorney       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter starts on part one of a three-part series on criminalized survivors of domestic violence. Kicking off this miniseries is Professor Leigh Goodmark. A former Public Defender herself, Leigh brings multiple decades of experience working with and writing about criminalized domestic violence survivors. On today's episode, Hunter and Leigh primarily discuss her journey to abolition, decriminalization, and the stories/data that made her conclude that the carceral system is not the appropriate response for domestic violence.     Guests: Leigh Goodmark, Professor of Law and Director of Gender Prison and Trauma Clinic, University of Maryland School of Law.     Resources: Get a Copy of Imperfect Victims https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520391123/imperfect-victims Get a Copy of Decriminalizing domestic Violence https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520295575/decriminalizing-domestic-violence Contact Leigh https://www.law.umaryland.edu/faculty--research/directory/profile/index.php?id=982 Compelled to Crime https://www.amazon.com/Compelled-Crime-Gender-Entrapment-Battered/dp/0415911451     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by Sophia Gurulé (immigration Public Defender at the Bronx Defender) and Pooja Patel (staff attorney at CAMBA Legal Services) to continue our discussion on ALAA's resolution calling for a ceasefire in Gaza. In particular, today's episode offers us even more insight into how the resolution came about, the steps taken by those who opposed it to shut it down, and why ALAA members felt it was so vital to pass the resolution.    Guests: Sophia Gurulé, Staff Attorney and ALAA Member, Bronx Defenders Pooja Patel, Staff Attorney and ALAA Member, CAMBA legal services    Resources: ALAA 2325 Resolution Calling for a Ceasefire in Gaza, an End to the Israeli Occupation of Palestine, and Support for Workers' Political Speech https://www.alaa.org/media-releases/resolution-calling-for-a-ceasefire-in-gaza-an-end-to-the-israeli-occupation-of-palestine-and-support-for-workers-political-speech Bronx Defenders Union Statement https://drive.google.com/file/d/15Hzyy_ufSJ9h8GjiYdg4eRKdGIUyikRE/view A Statement by Jewish Members of the Association of Legal Aid Attorneys-UAW Local 2325 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MJDXr9nANDCtcV76fxYNwNsxNbru3MYu5hLkCC3KrLY/edit   CAMBA Resolution https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NbgNQwjGLLPfNHFhvEYo3huPtHZ_p_Hs/view?fbclid=PAAaapoIPzKZmlESbMs3F3QHC-WivbHVvvdHt0dy8BpHBpFTn10XMg8p_RHkQ_aem_AULLM27V2SE-0BxR7iYPlelGVOXkK5aaL0b0KdZ-UR6dnDbm8GghwmPLJoJkp7m6I54 New York Legal Aid Society Response https://legalaidnyc.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Statement-on-Resolution-from-ALAA-UAW-Local-2325.pdf Bronx Defenders Response https://www.bronxdefenders.org/the-bronx-defenders-response-to-its-unions-october-20-statement/ News Coverage of the Resolution https://theintercept.com/2023/11/17/public-defender-gaza-legal-aid-bronx-defenders/ https://www.huffpost.com/entry/association-legal-aid-attorneys-public-defenders-palestinian-israel-resolution_n_655d2541e4b0c91d8278efcd https://freespeechproject.georgetown.edu/tracker-entries/legal-aid-lawyers-approve-pro-palestinian-resolution-after-federal-judge-dissolves-state-court-order-preventing-vote/ https://nypost.com/2023/12/19/metro/legal-aid-union-approves-pro-hamas-antisemitic-resolution-calling-for-boycott-of-apartheid-jewish-state-critics-say/ https://www.nysun.com/article/congress-to-probe-legal-union-over-anti-israel-resolution-opposed-by-nearly-a-third-of-its-members https://nypost.com/2023/11/16/metro/legal-aid-society-denounces-unions-antisemitic-resolution/ https://inthesetimes.com/article/palestine-resolution-unions-court-blocked https://www.thefp.com/p/alaa-legal-aid-attorneys-antisemitism-congress https://edworkforce.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=410256  https://www.nyclu.org/en/press-releases/congressional-subpoena-over-pro-palestinian-speech-violates-free-speech-alleges  ALAA 2325 History of Anti War Votes and Comments https://alaa2325.wordpress.com/1999/03/26/history-of-the-association-of-legal-aid-attorneys-uaw-local-2325/ https://alaa2325.wordpress.com/2003/04/14/alaa-antiwar-vote/ https://alaa2325.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/2009-09-15-urgent-appeal-to-alaa-members-defend-free-speech-at-legal-aid/ https://alaa2325.wordpress.com/2014/07/29/2014-07-29-updated-signers-173-of-mass-free-speech-grievance/ https://alaa2325.wordpress.com/2023/12/19/adopted-resolution-calling-for-a-ceasefire-in-gaza-an-end-to-the-israeli-occupation-of-palestine-and-support-for-workers-political-speech-association-of-legal-aid-attorneys-united-auto-w/ https://labornotes.org/blogs/2021/08/bottom-labor-solidarity-palestine-growing https://laborforpalestine.net/2022/07/26/press-release-uaw-2325-association-of-legal-aid-attorneys-votes-to-divest-from-israel-bonds/ https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vQzS8V0UkBAdiBRbaSasIvKuu45SjEuQKwXMxdMO92DZBn7QNhF2nWbKZI6ALAYoZfFkqpckIt1QMdW/pub https://laborforpalestine.net/2023/10/26/sf-public-defender-staff-in-solidarity-with-palestine/ https://therealnews.com/ny-court-blocks-union-from-voting-on-gaza-ceasefire-palestine-resolution-uaw-legal-aid https://laborforpalestine.net/2023/11/26/digest-of-select-statements-and-positions-on-matters-of-public-concern-by-the-association-of-legal-aid-attorneys-uaw-2325/ https://laborforpalestine.net/2023/12/06/uaw-labor-for-palestine-rank-and-file-welcomes-our-leaderships-pro-ceasefire-announcement-demands-that-the-international-uaw-endorse-palestinian-trade-union-call-for-boycott-divestment-and/ https://laborforpalestine.net/2023/12/15/statement-against-genocide-alameda-county-public-defenders-chapter-ifpte-local-21/ https://laborforpalestine.net/2023/12/20/even-in-the-face-of-management-interference-and-an-illegal-restraining-order-alaa-uaw-2325-membership-has-overwhelmingly-passed-apro-ceasefire-anti-occupation-resolution-uaw-2325-labor-for-palestin/ https://www.huffpost.com/entry/public-defender-union-cease-fire-resolution_n_65832a11e4b03e698a11c6d7   Contact Hunter 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Today, Hunter is joined by Michael Letwin, former President of ALAA 2325 and longtime Public Defender at the New York Legal Aid Society. Today's episode is part one of the two-part coverage of the ALAA 2325 Ceasefire in Gaza resolution. To understand the resolution fully requires us to fully understand the patterns, practices, and history of ALAA 2325 when it comes to speaking about international events. With this context in mind, hopefully those asking why ALAA 2325 would choose to issue a ceasefire resolution can understand how that is directly in line with their organizational ethics. Finally, Hunter makes his pitch for why Public Defender organizations should be speaking out about international affairs.     Guests: Michael Letwin, Former President ALAA 2325 and long time Public Defender   Resources: ALAA 2325 Resolution Calling for a Ceasefire in Gaza, an End to the Israeli Occupation of Palestine, and Support for Workers' Political Speech https://www.alaa.org/media-releases/resolution-calling-for-a-ceasefire-in-gaza-an-end-to-the-israeli-occupation-of-palestine-and-support-for-workers-political-speech Bronx Defenders Union Statement https://drive.google.com/file/d/15Hzyy_ufSJ9h8GjiYdg4eRKdGIUyikRE/view A Statement by Jewish Members of the Association of Legal Aid Attorneys-UAW Local 2325 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MJDXr9nANDCtcV76fxYNwNsxNbru3MYu5hLkCC3KrLY/edit New York Legal Aid Society Response https://legalaidnyc.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Statement-on-Resolution-from-ALAA-UAW-Local-2325.pdf Bronx Defenders Response https://www.bronxdefenders.org/the-bronx-defenders-response-to-its-unions-october-20-statement/ News Coverage of the Resolution https://theintercept.com/2023/11/17/public-defender-gaza-legal-aid-bronx-defenders/ https://www.huffpost.com/entry/association-legal-aid-attorneys-public-defenders-palestinian-israel-resolution_n_655d2541e4b0c91d8278efcd https://freespeechproject.georgetown.edu/tracker-entries/legal-aid-lawyers-approve-pro-palestinian-resolution-after-federal-judge-dissolves-state-court-order-preventing-vote/ https://nypost.com/2023/12/19/metro/legal-aid-union-approves-pro-hamas-antisemitic-resolution-calling-for-boycott-of-apartheid-jewish-state-critics-say/ https://www.nysun.com/article/congress-to-probe-legal-union-over-anti-israel-resolution-opposed-by-nearly-a-third-of-its-members https://nypost.com/2023/11/16/metro/legal-aid-society-denounces-unions-antisemitic-resolution/ https://inthesetimes.com/article/palestine-resolution-unions-court-blocked https://www.thefp.com/p/alaa-legal-aid-attorneys-antisemitism-congress https://edworkforce.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=410256  https://www.nyclu.org/en/press-releases/congressional-subpoena-over-pro-palestinian-speech-violates-free-speech-alleges  ALAA 2325 History of Anti War Votes and Comments https://alaa2325.wordpress.com/1999/03/26/history-of-the-association-of-legal-aid-attorneys-uaw-local-2325/ https://alaa2325.wordpress.com/2003/04/14/alaa-antiwar-vote/ https://alaa2325.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/2009-09-15-urgent-appeal-to-alaa-members-defend-free-speech-at-legal-aid/ https://alaa2325.wordpress.com/2014/07/29/2014-07-29-updated-signers-173-of-mass-free-speech-grievance/ https://alaa2325.wordpress.com/2023/12/19/adopted-resolution-calling-for-a-ceasefire-in-gaza-an-end-to-the-israeli-occupation-of-palestine-and-support-for-workers-political-speech-association-of-legal-aid-attorneys-united-auto-w/ https://labornotes.org/blogs/2021/08/bottom-labor-solidarity-palestine-growing https://laborforpalestine.net/2022/07/26/press-release-uaw-2325-association-of-legal-aid-attorneys-votes-to-divest-from-israel-bonds/ https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vQzS8V0UkBAdiBRbaSasIvKuu45SjEuQKwXMxdMO92DZBn7QNhF2nWbKZI6ALAYoZfFkqpckIt1QMdW/pub https://laborforpalestine.net/2023/10/26/sf-public-defender-staff-in-solidarity-with-palestine/ https://therealnews.com/ny-court-blocks-union-from-voting-on-gaza-ceasefire-palestine-resolution-uaw-legal-aid https://laborforpalestine.net/2023/11/26/digest-of-select-statements-and-positions-on-matters-of-public-concern-by-the-association-of-legal-aid-attorneys-uaw-2325/ https://laborforpalestine.net/2023/12/06/uaw-labor-for-palestine-rank-and-file-welcomes-our-leaderships-pro-ceasefire-announcement-demands-that-the-international-uaw-endorse-palestinian-trade-union-call-for-boycott-divestment-and/ https://laborforpalestine.net/2023/12/15/statement-against-genocide-alameda-county-public-defenders-chapter-ifpte-local-21/ https://laborforpalestine.net/2023/12/20/even-in-the-face-of-management-interference-and-an-illegal-restraining-order-alaa-uaw-2325-membership-has-overwhelmingly-passed-apro-ceasefire-anti-occupation-resolution-uaw-2325-labor-for-palestin/ https://www.huffpost.com/entry/public-defender-union-cease-fire-resolution_n_65832a11e4b03e698a11c6d7   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today is a re-release of my conversation with Jenny Andrews. It comes as a right before two episodes covering the ceasefire resolution put out by the UAW ALAA 2325 union that represents Public Defenders and Legal Aid Workers at the New York Legal Aid Society, the Bronx Defenders, Camba Legal Services, and much more.   Jenny Andrews is the Director of Training for California's Indigent Defense Improvement Division. She's here today to teach you what public defense is truly like from the defender's side. Public defenders are often trapped between a rock and a hard place because they want to provide equal representation access, yet are expected to work too many hours for not enough pay. Because of this, "martyr complex" is prevalent in this field. You'll learn that public defense is an area of service, but that this often comes at the expense of the defender's mental health. Jenny will walk you through how she's helping implement self-care practices into nationwide and why self-care is vital to providing zealous representation! Throughout this episode, remember that ultimately, it is the client who suffers when the public defender suffers in silence Key Topics and Takeaways: Jenny's background and how she got started in public defense. [7:50] Why Jenny burnt out and left the industry. [14:18] Moral injury. [21:58] Self-care in public defense. [26:32] Secondary trauma. [33:36] How Jenny has been building a culture of self-care. [42:50] How individual offices are promoting self-care. [48:28] The line between service and self-care. [53:14] Guest: Jenny Andrews, Director of Training, Indigent Defense Improvement Division, Office of the State Public Defender, California Resources: Be Sustained  https://besustained.org/ Body Keeps the Score https://www.amazon.com/Body-Keeps-Score-Healing-Trauma/dp/0143127748 Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by the newest Chief Public Defender of the State of New Jersey, Jennifer Sellitti. Drawing on her background in public relations, Jennifer has exciting plans for the future of Public Defense in the state. As the new leader, Jennifer hopes she will be able to capitalize on a legislature and governor that appear eager to continue reimagining what a criminal legal system can and should look like.     Guests: Jennifer Sellitti, The Public Defender, New Jersey Office of the Public Defender     Resources: Follow Jennifer on Twitter https://twitter.com/j_sellitti?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor N.J.'s 1,200 public defenders have a new leader. You'll be hearing from her, she promises. https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/02/njs-1200-public-defenders-have-a-new-leader-youll-be-hearing-from-her-she-promises.html New Jersey Office of the Public Defender https://www.nj.gov/defender/ https://twitter.com/opd_nj?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor https://www.facebook.com/njopd/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by an amazing former Public Defender from the Wren Collective to discuss their report about youth representation in Cuyahoga County Ohio. Nikki Baszynski joins Hunter today to talk about, perhaps for the first time on the shoe, a Public Defender office that feels they don't have enough cases! Unlike most of the major metropolitan areas in Ohio, juvenile public defense is largely provided by contract counsel and not the Public Defender office. Unfortunately, this is happening despite evidence that the Public Defender office is consistently getting better outcomes for their clients and doing so at a cheaper cost to the county.     Guests: Nikki Baszyinski, Principal and Former Public Defender, The Wren Collective     Resources:   Wren Collective Report on Cuyahoga County https://www.wrencollective.org/_files/ugd/8fe8f0_1079cdb763ae4fd4b86cffa5a5f3631e.pdf Reporting from Signal https://signalcleveland.org/every-child-accused-of-a-crime-has-a-right-to-an-attorney-is-cuyahoga-county-providing-the-best-possible-representation/ https://signalcleveland.org/how-cuyahoga-county-picks-attorneys-to-represent-children-accused-of-crimes/ Follow the Wren Collective on Twitter https://twitter.com/wrencollective Ohio Public Defender Commission https://opd.ohio.gov/  Listen to the Comitte Meeting Here! https://opd.ohio.gov/about-opd/commission/commission-meetings     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter sat down once again with the former Chief Public Defender of Colorado, Doug Wilson. This time, Doug and Hunter discuss the Aurora Theater Shooting case. Just like the episode about the Parkland shooting, today's episode is designed to help people understand how such a heinous crime could end in a life over death sentence. In examining these cases, hopefully people can understand the power of mitigating evidence and a well- funded criminal defense team can have on a criminal case.   Guests: Doug Wilson, Former Chief Public Defender of the State of Colorado   Resources: THE "EVIL" DEFENDANT AND THE "HOLDOUT" JUROR: UNPACKING THE MYTHS OF THE AURORA THEATER SHOOTING CASE AS WE PONDER THE FUTURE OF CAPITAL PUNISHMENT IN COLORADO https://www.coloradodefenders.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Nelson-FINAL-1.pdf Aurora theater shooting trial: DA George Brauchler scolded over tweet https://sentinelcolorado.com/metro/theater-shooting-trial-da-brauchler-scolded-tweet/ A Record 9,000 People Were Called For Jury Duty In The Aurora Theater Shooting Trial https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-record-9000-people-were-called-for-jury-duty-in-the-aurora-theater-shooting-trial/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

While working as with the DC Public Defender Services, today's guest realized there was a critical lack of attorneys assisting youth after they had been sentenced. Today, Hunter spoke with Penelope Spain, CEO and Co-Founder of Open City Advocates, to discuss how her organization hopes to keep kids from falling through the cracks simply because they do not have an attorney post-conviction.     Guests: Penelope Spain, CEO and Co-Founder, Open City Advocates     Resources: Open City Advocates on Website https://www.opencityadvocates.org/ Twitter https://twitter.com/opencityadv?lang=en Facebook https://www.facebook.com/opencityadvocates/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

In just this past year, there have been over 400 anti-LGBTQ+ bills proposed in state houses around the country. Many have no hope of passing, but some will end up creating new was to criminalize and ostracize already vulnerable members of the LGBTQ+ community. Joining Hunter today to talk about these laws and their impacts is Richard Saenz from Lambda Legal. Throughout this conversation, Richard and Hunter explore the many ways our legal system disregards the unique needs of LGBTQ+ folks being processed through it. Most importantly though, Richard lays out key ways that the legal community can help to stop the legal onslaught against the LGBTQ+ community.   Guests: Richard Saenz, Senior Attorney and Criminal Legal System Strategist, Lambda Legal   Resources: Lambda Legal https://lambdalegal.org/ Protected and Served https://www.protectedandserved.org/?_gl=1*70e392*_ga*OTE2Njg3ODAxLjE3MDk0MDYyNzY.*_ga_290ZG8GMP3*MTcwOTQwNjI3Ni4xLjEuMTcwOTQwNjQ2NS40NC4wLjA. Sam Alito Statement https://newrepublic.com/post/179149/supreme-court-samuel-alito-traditional-people-bigots-lgbtq Lambda Legal Social Media https://twitter.com/lambdalegal?lang=en https://www.instagram.com/lambdalegal/?hl=en https://www.facebook.com/lambdalegal/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

"If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided to you at no cost." Ask the average American, and they will tell you that Public Defenders are free…. Unless of course you live in most states where they charge you something for getting a Public Defender. If you live in Iowa, this means you could pay up to the entire cost of your representation even if you are found not guilty or the charges are dropped. Joining Hunter today is Alex Kornya from Iowa Legal Aid to discuss the history, legality, and future of the fines and fees trapping thousands of Iowans in perpetual debt.     Guests: Alex Kornya, Litigation Director and General Counsel, Iowa Legal Aid Resources: Marshall Project Reporting https://www.themarshallproject.org/2024/02/12/miranda-rights-indigent-defense-iowa Iowa Legal Aid https://www.iowalegalaid.org/   Cases Woodbury County v Anderson https://casetext.com/case/woodbury-county-v-anderson James v Strange https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/407/128/ Fuller v Oregon https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/417/40/ State v Dudley https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/5914b1a4add7b0493475ab37 Bearden v Georgia https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/461/660/ Fines and Fees Justice Center https://finesandfeesjusticecenter.org/ Email Alex akornya@iowalaw.org     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

After being rated as one of the worst places in the country for their youth legal system, Maryland law makers decided to implement an overhaul of said system. After two years of study and advocacy, the state was guilted into action. Now, after less than 18 months in effect, police and prosecutors have convinced law makers into chipping away at the reforms. Today, Hunter is joined once again by the Public Defender of Maryland, Natasha Dartigue, and by Deputy District Public Defender for Baltimore City, Alycia Capozello, to discuss the anecdotes and fear driving legislators towards bad criminal legal policy.   Guests: Natasha Dartigue, The Public Defender of the State of Maryland Alycia Capozello, Deputy District Public Defender, Baltimore City, MD   Resources: Maryland before the JJRA https://www.baltimoresun.com/2020/12/21/maryland-among-the-worst-in-protecting-kids-in-the-justice-system-commentary/ https://humanrightsforkids.org/wp-content/uploads/State-Ratings-Report_2020.pdf https://southernmarylandchronicle.com/2022/07/09/report-reveals-claims-of-youth-crime-wave-unfounded/ https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/in-maryland-many-juvenile-offenders-languish-in-prison-without-parole JJRA Report https://djs.maryland.gov/Pages/Juvenile-Justice-Reform-Council.aspx Child Interrogation Protection Act https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/01/16/lawmakers-seek-to-preserve-child-interrogation-protection-act-despite-criticism/#:~:text=Passed%20in%202022%2C%20the%20Child,they%20are%20taken%20into%20custody. https://www.wypr.org/wypr-news/2024-01-18/maryland-black-lawmakers-want-no-changes-to-child-interrogation-protection-act https://www.aclu-md.org/en/press-releases/child-interrogation-protection-act-goes-effect-saturday Current Talks About JJRA https://www.wboc.com/news/growing-calls-for-maryland-to-repeal-controversial-youth-crime-law/article_5d8d7ffe-6889-11ee-b7b3-afd7f826e5d0.html https://www.marylandmatters.org/2024/02/02/juvenile-justice-reform-bill-proposes-tweaks-to-the-system/ Office of the State Public Defender Maryland https://opd.state.md.us/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

If you've listened to the show long enough, then you know Hunter has consistently advocated for more public defenders to become judges. With their insight into the legal system, communities can stand to gain so much by having a bench with more diverse job experience. Today, Hunter is joined by three L.A. public defenders who are all running for Superior Court Judgeships in Los Angeles County. Ericka Wiley, George Turner, and Kim Repecka know that their careers as public defenders make them uniquely qualified to serve as judges and ensure justice, fairness, and compassion for every person who might stand before them.   Guests: Ericka Wiley, Public Defender and Candidate for Superior Court Judge Seat 48, Los Angeles     George Turner, Public Defender and Candidate for Superior Court Judge Seat 39, Los Angeles     Kim Repecka, Public Defender and Candidate for Superior Court Judge Seat 124, Los Angeles     Resources: Ericka Wiley Contact https://wileyforjudge.com/ https://www.facebook.com/people/Ericka-Wiley-For-Judge-2024/61553248058723/ https://www.instagram.com/wiley4judge/ https://www.tiktok.com/@erickawileyforjudge2024     George Turner Contact https://georgeaturner4judge.com/ GeorgeTurner4Judge@gmail.com https://www.instagram.com/turner4judge/     Kim Repecka Contact https://kimrepeckaforjudge.com/ https://www.instagram.com/kimrepeckaforjudge/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=0b2d1af0-961f-4311-8352-530c5589f562       Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Why is it that even the most well intentioned, well thought out reforms for policing fail? At the heart of policing is a culture that teaches police to see threats around every corner. Today, Hunter sat down with sociology professor, Michael Sierra-Arévalo, to discuss his newest book The Danger Imperative: Violence, Death, and the Soul of Policing to try and understand all that contributes to that culture and how it impacts police practices. Guests: Michael Sierra-Arévalo, Professor of Sociology, University of Texas-Austin Resources:   Get your copy of Michael's Book here: https://cup.columbia.edu/book/the-danger-imperative/9780231198479 Killology https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/warrior-cop-class-dave-grossman-killology.html Michael's Contacts https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/sociology/faculty/ms39643 https://www.sierraarevalo.com/ Tony Cheng Policing Machine https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/P/bo208342229.html Samantha Simon Before the Badge https://www.amazon.com/Before-Badge-Academy-Training-Violence/dp/1479813273           Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by Arlington, VA Chief Public Defender Brad Haywood. This time, Brad joins the show to dig into the ways copaganda has negatively impacted criminal legal reforms in Virginia. Specifically, we discuss the ways false media outrage about organized retail theft and the century old war on drug rhetoric have shaped Virginia's discourse on criminal legal policy.   Guests: Brad Haywood, Chief Public Defender, Arlington and City of Falls Chruch, Virginia   Resources:   Retail Theft Coverage https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/dec/07/retail-theft-losses-inventory-nrf https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/02/27/shoplifting-retail-theft-lawmakers-response https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/19/target-store-closures-theft-and-crime-higher-nearby.html#:~:text=Retail-,Target%20blamed%20theft%20and%20violence%20for%209%20store%20closures.,locations%20it%20kept%20open%20nearby&text=Target%20blamed%20theft%20and%20violence%20when%20it%20closed%20nine%20stores,kept%20open%20near%20those%20stores https://sentinelcolorado.com/opinion/editorial-auroras-shoplifter-jail-crusade-is-a-mirage-of-honesty-credibility-and-facts/ Fentanyl Terorism Law https://virginiamercury.com/2023/07/21/states-stiffen-penalties-for-fentanyl-despite-public-health-concerns/#:~:text=Va.,to%20ten%20years%20in%20jail Radley Balko on Jason Miyares https://radleybalko.substack.com/p/virginias-culture-warrior-attorney           Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by James McDermott and Paul Chambers from the Far West Texas Regional Public Defender Office. This time, James and Paul are discussing how they utilized the new National Workload study to double their attorney staff. While the use of data was extremely important into winning over county commissioners, James' and Paul's willingness to let the system fail proved to be the catalyst in securing more funding. Guests: James McDermott, Chief Public Defender, Far West Texas Regional Public Defender           Paul Chambers, Deputy Chief Public Defender, Far West Texas Regional Public Defender   Resources:   National Workload Study https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA2559-1.html   Far West Texas Regional Public Defender https://far-west-texas-regional-public-defender.business.site/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter sat down with Jessica Brand, the found of the Wren Collective, to discuss their recent report about the death penalty in Harris County, Texas. For decades, Harris County used the death penalty more than anywhere in the world, but unlike many places, it did not use full time public defenders for these cases. Instead, they used court appointed counsel, and the results of that representation model have been stunningly bad.   Guests: Jessica Brand, Founder, Wren Collective   Resources: Contact the Wren Collective https://www.wrencollective.org/contact-3 Death by Design Part 1 https://www.wrencollective.org/_files/ugd/8fe8f0_fd475c291d07486188088f0d5c2ffa33.pdf Death By Design Part 2 https://www.wrencollective.org/_files/ugd/8fe8f0_cd056b2be4634f3e9410053388c79bfe.pdf     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

In a follow up to our episode on Operation Lone Star, Hunter is joined by UC Davis Law Professor Eric Fish to discuss his recent law review article, "Resisting Mass Immigration Prosecutions." On our previous OLS episode, we discussed the many ways the state of Texas has stacked the deck in its favor, making it extremely difficult for PDs to get anything close to a "win." Yet, OLS is not the first mass immigration prosecution scheme, and today's episode is about understanding the lessons we can learn from Eric, the other PDs, and the criminal defense attorneys in San Diego who got amazing wins against Operation Streamline.   Guests: Eric Fish, Former Federal Public Defender and Professor of Law, UC Davis School of Law   Resources: Law Review Article https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4659514 History of Operation Streamline https://www.law.berkeley.edu/files/Operation_Streamline_Policy_Brief.pdf Contact Eric https://law.ucdavis.edu/people/eric-fish   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

(AUDIO CORRECTED)   Following years of intense advocacy in the state house, a robust coalition of people in Illinois were successfully able to abolish cash bail with the SAFE-T Act. For the tough on crime crowd, this law would turn Illinois into "the Purge." Anarchy would claim the streets and the entire state would become lawless….but did that actually happen? Joining Hunter today are Celeste Korando, the Chief Public Defender of Jackson County Illinois, Sharlyn Grace, the Senior Policy Advisor at the Cook County Public Defender, and Victoria Kerr, former Public Defender and current Private Defense Counsel in Central IL, to talk about the good, the bad, and the truth of the SAFE-T Act.       Guests: Celeste Korando, Chief Public Defender, Jackson County, Illinois Sharlyn Grace, Senior Policy Advisor, Cook County Public Defender Victoria Kerr, Criminal Defense Attorney, Central Illinois     Resources: SAFE-T Act https://www.illinoislegalaid.org/legal-information/cash-bail-changes-2023-safe-t-act#:~:text=In%20July%202023%2C%20the%20Illinois,system%20and%20what%20it%20means. https://www.aclu.org/news/criminal-law-reform/the-illinois-supreme-court-cash-bail-ruling-explained https://eji.org/news/illinois-becomes-first-state-to-abolish-cash-bail/ https://blockclubchicago.org/2022/09/14/no-there-is-no-purge-law-in-illinois-here-are-the-facts-about-ending-cash-bail/   https://pretrialfairness.org/ Bad Faith Reactions to the Law https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/the-end-of-cash-bail-is-not-a-purge-law-in-illinois-heres-what-you-need-to-know/2981549/#:~:text=Some%20on%20social%20media%20have%20dubbed%20it%20a%20so%2Dcalled,Pritzker%20have%20said%20is%20false. https://myfox8.com/news/is-a-purge-law-coming-to-illinois/   Flow Chart https://ilcourtsaudio.blob.core.windows.net/antilles-resources/resources/b3d911ef-bd4e-4263-b86b-0b16fe032ac9/Pretrial%20Fairness%20Act%20Release%20by%20Citation%20Flowchart%20and%20Implementation%20Considerations.pdf Contact Sharlyn https://www.cookcountypublicdefender.org/locations-contact/find-public-defender/grace-sharlyn https://twitter.com/SharlynDGrace Contact Celeste https://twitter.com/CelesteKorando https://www.linkedin.com/in/celeste-korando-ba327a3b Contact Victoria Vekay19896@Gmail.com     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

In 2021, the Washington Supreme handed down one of the most important rulings in the history of the state. For decades, people in Washington were convicted under the state's felony drug possession law without any requirement they had knowledge of the drugs they possessed. The court struck down this strict liability law and opened the door for hundreds of thousands of people to be released, resentenced, or have their case vacated. Today, Hunter spoke with Grace O'Connor, Nat Jacob, and Kimonti Carter, the team at the Washington Office of Public Defense, who work on helping people navigate their options in the wake of Blake v State.   Guests: Grace O'Connor, Former Blake Managing Defense Attorney, Washington Office of Public Defense Nat Jacob, Blake Triage Attorney, Washington Office of Public Defense Kimonti Carter, Blake Community Outreach Specialist, Washington Office of Public Defense     Resources: Blake v State https://www.courts.wa.gov/opinions/pdf/968730.pdf Contact the Blake Team Call 800-414-6064 (ext 218) Email blake@opd.wa.gov How to Vacate Conviction https://opd.wa.gov/find-legal-help-and-information/vacate-drug-possession-convictions-state-v-blake Since I Been Down https://www.sinceibeendown.com/ https://www.kimonticarter.com/teach Redemption Project of Washington https://www.redemptionwa.org/ Seattle Clemency Project https://www.seattleclemencyproject.org/         Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with Taylor Six, a journalist at the Lexington Harold Leader in Kentucky, to discuss her expansive coverage of the criminal legal system in the state. From a system that is almost devoid of all trials to accusations of racial bias in local prosecutors, Taylor is doing amazing work bringing to light the criminal legal stories that help drive better criminal legal policies.   Guests: Taylor Six, Journalist, Lexington Harold Leader, Kentucky   Resources: judge tossed a murder charge prosecutor's response Follow up on Racial Bias Accusation from Judge https://www.kentucky.com/news/local/crime/article284296008.html Case of Lasielle White Here is how her case ended. Teen linked to Fatal Shooting Gets Probation https://www.kentucky.com/news/local/crime/article275460956.html#storylink=cpy https://www.kentucky.com/news/local/crime/article281033483.html  Plea Deal Story https://www.kentucky.com/news/local/crime/article278980039.html       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

The protections of the Constitution are meant to apply to all Americans regardless of their status, but for those who are incarcerated, courts have systematically denied, abused, or ignored those protections. Today, Hunter is once again joined by Kaelen Perrochet, a UCLA law student and two-time previous guest, to take a look at the various rights prisoner's simply don't have. From denial of healthcare and safety to no access to courts or counsel, this episode is a reminder that courts have and continue to determine who should rights based simply on who they are.   Guests: Kaelen Perrochet, UCLA Law Student,     Resources: Singer v Raemisch https://casetext.com/case/singer-v-raemisch Lewis v Casey https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/94-1511.ZO.html Estelle v Gamble https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/429/97 Farmer v Brennan https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/92-7247.ZS.html Brown v Plata https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/09-1233.ZO.html     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is continuing his coverage of public defense in Texas by speaking with former Executive Director of the Texas Indigent Defense Commission and current Executive Director of the Texas Fair Defense Project, Geoff Burkhart. Under his leadership, there was a massive expansion of institutional public defender offices around Texas, but it happened in an extremely unorthodox manner. Normally, public defender offices spring up in the urban areas and slowly make their way to the more rural parts of the state, but in Texas, that model has been a bit backwards. With the grant money TIDC provided, rural communities jumped at the chance to have institutional public defender offices, while some large metro areas (Tarrant County in particular) still relied on a contract base private attorney system. Why that happened, what Geoff learned, and why he left TIDC to work at the Fair Defense Project are just a few of the topics explored on today's episode!     Guests: Geoff Burkhart, Executive Director, Texas Fair Defense Project   Resources: Texas Fair Defense Project https://www.fairdefense.org/ Texas Indigent Defense Commission https://www.tidc.texas.gov/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter sat down with Kimberly Simmons, Executive Director, and Jamie Spencer, managing attorney, at the Texas Rio Grande Public Defender to discuss their role in fighting against the mass immigration prosecutions of Operation Lone Star. Despite immigration policy falling under the exclusive control of the federal government, Texas started OLS after it determined not enough was being done to arrest and deport migrants in the country illegally. As with most tough on crime immigration policies, the goal of OLS is to make the deportation of people go as quickly as possible, without much regard for due process or the treatment of those being detained. This episode highlights the importance of the public defense in stopping states from railroading people through our broken immigration system.         Guests: Kimberly Simmons, Executive Director, Texas Rio Grande Public Defender Jamie Spencer, Managing Attorney, Texas Rio Grande Public Defender     Resources: TRGPD https://www.trgpd.org/  Operation Lone Star https://www.tidc.texas.gov/operation-lone-star/ https://www.texastribune.org/series/operation-lone-star/ https://www.tpr.org/border-immigration/2024-01-11/gov-abbotts-operation-lone-star-seized-control-of-a-public-park-on-the-border-overnight-residents-protest https://www.texastribune.org/2024/01/03/texas-senate-bill-4-illegal-immigration-justice-department-lawsuit/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by longtime criminal justice investigative journalist Radley Balko to discuss his newest reporting on Public Defender systems around the country. Over his storied career covering everything from police misconduct to legislation like AEDPA, Radley noticed that at the heart of so many cases was poor access to competent counsel. This spurred him in the fall of 2023 to start an investigative series into the inner workings of each state's public defender system. Today, Hunter and Radley discuss the first instalment that covered Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Alaska, and California.     Guests: Radley Balko, Investigative Journalist     Resources:   The Watch (Radley's Podcast) https://radleybalko.substack.com/ States of Indigent Defense Part 1 https://radleybalko.substack.com/p/the-states-of-indigent-defense-part Perpetual Crisis in Indigent Defense https://radleybalko.substack.com/p/the-perpetual-crisis-in-indigent Lee Enterprise Arizona https://tulsaworld.com/news/national/on-the-brink-of-crisis-arizona-s-public-defense-system-hit-hard-with-staffing-shortages/article_36323850-9373-11ed-ae95-77f4bfa2e383.html Larry Price https://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article271245217.html#tbl-em-lnvtce7s7qjuyz92fnl     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with Annie Legomsky, the Holistic Defense Service leader for the Missouri State Public Defender. On this episode, Hunter and Annie discuss the incredible success stories from the implementation of a state wide holistic defense practice.  For many, holistic defense seems like a great idea, but they feel they cannot muster the resources to make it happen. This story is an excellent example of the ways an office can creatively find the money to make holistic defense possible      Guest:  Annie Legomsky, Holistic Defense Services, Missouri State Public Defender     Resources: Missouri State Public Defender  https://publicdefender.mo.gov/ Partners for Justice https://www.partnersforjustice.org/?gclid=CjwKCAiA75itBhA6EiwAkho9e9CdBk_x6uThQWGw64O6cntNo-BtRCS0NVAh1QsPGqEQ1hDeqTAopRoCltkQAvD_BwE     Contact Hunter Parnell:   Publicdefenseless@gmail.com   Instagram   @PublicDefenselessPodcast   Twitter   @PDefenselessPod   www.publicdefenseless.com   Subscribe to the Patron   www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast   Donate on PayPal   https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ   Donate on Stripe   https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by Mississippi State Public Defender Andre de Gruy to discuss the criminal legal system in Mississippi. Specifically, Hunter and Andre dig into how the state ended the "dead zone" in the legal system that left incarcerated people without counsel for more than a year. They discuss the on going problems in making the changes meaningful improvements in the overall legal system, and after that, they touch on the state's attempt to take over the judicial system in Jackson Mississippi.     Guests: Andre de Gruy, State Public Defender, Mississippi   Resources: State Take Over of Jackson's Judiciary https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/21/us/jackson-mississippi-judicial-system/index.html https://www.naacpldf.org/press-release/plaintiffs-celebrate-victory-in-challenge-to-mississippi-h-b-1020/ https://www.wjtv.com/news/politics/mississippi-politics/hearing-held-on-naacps-lawsuit-against-house-bill-1020/ https://www.mississippifreepress.org/38790/state-run-jackson-court-can-move-forward-after-judge-again-denies-naacp-request Mississippi Dead Zone https://6ac.org/mississippis-dead-zone-highlights-the-urgent-need-for-state-level-reforms/ https://www.propublica.org/article/mississippi-courts-unprepared-to-ensure-poor-defendants-have-lawyers https://www.propublica.org/article/mississippi-supreme-court-poor-criminal-defendants-lawyer#:~:text=That%20means%20Mississippi's%20%E2%80%9Cdead%20zone,indictment%20%E2%80%94%20persists%20in%20many%20counties. https://www.pushblack.us/news/states-public-defender-system-leaves-many-dead-zone Mississippi Public Defense System  https://www.propublica.org/article/mississippi-courts-wont-say-how-they-provide-lawyers-for-poor-clients    Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

The conditions with which Public Defenders must fight under are set in the state house. That's why Hunter is so excited to speak with one of the best criminal law policy groups in the country, Justice Forward Virginia. Rob Poggenklass, Ashely Shapiro, and Andy Elders join the show to discuss some of the slate of policy reforms they are hoping to tackle this legislative cycle. From prospective Fourth Amendment waivers to child felony expungement cases, Justice Forward Virginia has an impressive and comprehensive agenda to reshape Virginia's rotten criminal legal system.     Guests: Rob Poggenklass, Executive Director, Justice Forward Virginia Andy Elders, Chairman of the Board, Justice Forward Virginia Ashley Shapiro, Vice Chair of the Board, Justice Forward Virginia     Resources: Lend your voice to Justice Virginia's Policy advocacy https://justiceforwardva.com/blog/2023/11/27/2024-justice-reform-lobby-day-registration Follow Justice Forward on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/JusticeForwardVa Twitter https://twitter.com/justicefwdva Instagram https://www.instagram.com/justicefwdva/ 2024 Agenda Items https://justiceforwardva.com/2024-priorities Issues https://justiceforwardva.com/issues Contact Justice Forward VA https://justiceforwardva.com/contact       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

After our sobering conversation about the Parkland Shooting case on Tuesday, Hunter continues looking into the death penalty in today's episode. Joining him to discuss the abolition of the death penalty in Nevada is Nancy Hart and Chris Peterson. Nancy is the President of the Nevada Coalition Against the Death Penalty and Chris is the Legal Director at the ACLU of Nevada. Together, they bring decades of experience in the criminal legal and death penalty abolition space, and both expertly lay out the policy, ethical, and practical reasons why the death penalty needs to end in Nevada.     Guests: Nancy Hart, President, Nevada Coalition Against the Death Penalty Chris Peterson, Legal Director, ACLU of Nevada   Resources: Nevada Coalition Against the Death Penalty https://nvcadp.org/ https://www.facebook.com/nvcadp https://twitter.com/nvcadp https://www.instagram.com/nvcadp/ ACLU of Nevada https://www.aclunv.org/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is honored to speak with two people from the defense team of Nikolas Cruz, Casey Secor and Kate O'Shea, to discuss their role in securing a life sentence over the death penalty. Today's episode touches on an incredibly sensitive, complex topic about one of the most horrific crimes committed in recent memory. Throughout this episode, Kate and Casey draw on their years of expertise in fighting against the death penalty to explain how this incredible tragedy occurred. As is always the case in death penalty cases, Hunter, Kate, and Casey reveal the incredible advantages the prosecution is afforded, but despite these advantages, three jurors voted for life over death. In response, Florida has done everything in their power to make it easier for the state to execute people. Hopefully by the end of this incredible conversation, you will understand why Florida's response is one we should emphatically reject.     Guests: Casey Secor, CEO and Senior Staff Attorney, Suzerain Capital Defense Kate O'Shea, Mitigation Specialist, Suzerain Capital Defense     Resources: Suzerain Capital Defense https://www.szrn.org/ Parkland Judge Reprimanded https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/florida-supreme-court-reprimands-judge-for-conduct-during-parkland-shooting-trial Florida's Multifaceted Expansion of the Death Penalty Raises Constitutional Concerns https://www.americanbar.org/groups/committees/death_penalty_representation/publications/project_blog/florida-expands-the-death-penalty/ Floridians for Alternatives to the Death Penalty https://www.fadp.org/fl-innocence-list/#:~:text=Florida%20leads%20the%20nation%20with,for%20every%20three%20people%20executed.&text=Three%2Dfourths%20(22%20of%2030,survivors%20are%20people%20of%20color.       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

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For the last episode of the year, we are returning to the Aurora Municipal Office to unpack the ongoing effort by the Aurora City Council to disband the Public Defender Office. This time, Hunter is joined by the new Chief Public Defender, Elizabeth Cadiz. Over a long career in the office, Elizabeth has seen the incredible corruption and Constitutional violations. Over the last year, she helped to orchestrate an amazing challenge to the city attorney's office pattern and practice of discovery violations. Following this victory and her taking over the office, City Council is one again determined to remove the office in favor of a "cheaper" alternative. While the City Council continues to say this is about costs, but a look back at the history of this office indicates that City Council is simply tired of having a zealous advocate stand in the way of their tough on crime agenda.   Guests: Elizabeth Cadiz, Chief Public Defender, Aurora, Colorado Municipal Public Defense     Resources: Aurora lawmakers agree to analyze privatizing public defender's office https://sentinelcolorado.com/metro/aurora-lawmakers-solicit-bids-to-privatize-public-defenders-office/ Local News Coverage https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/aurora-considering-getting-rid-public-defenders/ https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/video/aurora-considering-getting-rid-of-public-defenders/ Offense for the defense: Aurora public defenders take the stand https://sentinelcolorado.com/metro/offense-for-the-defense-aurora-public-defenders-take-the-stand/ ACLU Letter to City Council https://www.aclu-co.org/en/news/letter-aurora-city-council-regarding-resolution-concerning-aurora-public-defenders-office Defender's Union of Colorado Op-Ed https://sentinelcolorado.com/opinion/columnists/guest-column-aurora-council-gop-has-ulterior-motive-in-targeting-public-defenders/   Prosecutors ordered to review cases after Aurora office failed to provide defendants with knowledge of discredited cops   Aurora city attorneys review, notify impacted defendants of lacking 'Brady letters'   Aurora lawmakers give 1st OK to mandatory jail time for shoplifting, despite lack of cost data   Aurora lawmakers impose mandatory 3 days in jail for shoplifting more than $300   Aurora council defends cuts to diversity office, public defender, police monitor in first round of budget voting   Impacts of Mandatory Minimum Sentencing: https://law.asu.edu/sites/default/files/pdf/academy_for_justice/7_Criminal_Justice_Reform_Vol_4_Mandatory-Minimums.pdf https://www.sentencingproject.org/reports/long-term-sentences-time-to-reconsider-the-scale-of-punishment/ https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/end-mandatory-minimums   NLADA Report on Aurora Office   ACLU Report on Municipal Courts Colorado       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

As a follow up to my conversation with Elizabeth Cadiz, Chief Public Defender of the Aurora Colorado Municipal Public Defender, here are some of the public comments made before City Council on 4 December 2023. Be sure to listen to my conversation with Elizabeth for the full context of these speakers! If you would like to watch the speakers on youtube, the city council meeting can be found at this link with the relevant parts starting at 27 minutes.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmeK_lsixF4

Today, Hunter sat down with Kimberly Simmons, the former Executive Director of the Idaho Public Defense Commission, and Paul Riggins, a private criminal defense attorney in Idaho, to discuss the past decade+ of public defense in Idaho. Like so many county based systems covered on the show, Idaho was once a patch work model where the quality of representation a person could expect depended almost entirely on where that person was arrested. Seeing the flaws in this model, Idaho took major steps to start to create more uniform standards and control of the system, but it failed to produce the results everyone wants. Tune in to hear how and why Idaho now stands on the verge of its second major public defense overhaul in just the past decade.     Guests: Kimberly Simmons, Former Executive Director, Idaho Public Defense Commission Paul Riggins, Criminal Defense Attorney, Idaho     Resources: Tucker v Idaho https://www.acluidaho.org/en/cases/tucker-v-state-idaho 2010 NLADA Report https://leg.mt.gov/content/Committees/Interim/2015-2016/Public-Defender/Committee-Topics/id_guaranteeofcounseljseri01-2010_report.pdf Bonnie Groller Law Review Article https://www.uidaho.edu/-/media/UIdaho-Responsive/Files/law/law-review/articles/volume-52/52-2-groller-bonnie-c.pdf?hash=41687452DF19CF85049D75A8B8EFA3B9F4AC0242&la=en Idaho Workload Study https://pdc.idaho.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/03/PDC-WORKLOAD-STUDY-online-version.pdf Idaho Public Defender Overhaul https://blog.idahoreports.idahoptv.org/2023/03/23/legislature-approves-public-defense-overhaul/       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

In our last instalment of our mini series on the Fourth Amendment, Hunter spoke with Andrew Ferguson, Professor of Law at American University Washington College of Law. On this episode, we will explore the rise of Big Data Policing, also known as predictive policing, and how the digital era we are in must be understood differently than previous eras if the Fourth Amendment is to protect people's privacy.   Guests: Andrew Ferguson, Professor of Law, American University Washington College of Law   Resources: Andrew's Faculty Page https://www.wcl.american.edu/community/faculty/profile/aferguson/publications The Rise of Big Data Policing https://nyupress.org/9781479892822/ Real Time Crime Centers https://www.wired.com/story/real-time-crime-centers-rtcc-us-police/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

At the founding of the country, the Fourth Amendment was designed to protect against general warrants. In the colonial period, the Crown would secure warrants to search anything and everything in one's possession in often meritless attempts to harass and intimidate colonists. One would think that this history would make people wary at the thought of such a warrant, but with the advent of Geo-Fence and Key Word Search Warrants, the general warrant has entered the digital age…with the legal system struggling to keep up. Today, Hunter is joined by Mike Price, the Litigation Director of the Fourth Amendment Center, to discuss these new warrants, and what, if anything, can be done to stop them.     Guests: Mike Price, Litigation Director, Fourth Amendment Center, NACDL     Resources: Fourth Amendment Center https://www.nacdl.org/Landing/FourthAmendmentCenter US v Chatrie https://www.nacdl.org/Document/US-v-Chatrie-4th-Circuit-Appeal-Brief Colorado Seymour Case https://www.nacdl.org/Document/Seymour-Rule-21-Petition     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Continuing our Fourth Amendment mini-series, Hunter is joined today by Clare Garvie, the facial recognition technology guru at the Fourth Amendment Center. As she lays out in her excellent report on facial recognition technology, its use is widespread, and that should frighten everyone. Thanks to Clare's expertise, hopefully each of you will walk away understanding that facial recognition technology is not something that police departments should be using any time soon.   Guests: Clare Garvie, Training and Resource Counsel, Fourth Amendment Center, NACDL   Resources: Fourth Amendment Center https://www.nacdl.org/Landing/FourthAmendmentCenter A Forensic Without the Science: Face Recognition in U.S Criminal Investigation http://forensicwithoutscience.org/ New Jersey v Arteaga https://epic.org/nj-court-says-defendant-entitled-to-detailed-discovery-on-the-facial-recognition-search-that-identified-him/ Wrongful Arrest of Porsha Woddruff https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/06/business/facial-recognition-false-arrest.html Email Clare cgarvie@nacdl.org     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, we kick of two straight weeks of coverage on the future of the Fourth Amendment. We start our mini-series by speaking to the Director of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyer's Fourth Amendment Center Jumana Musa. Today's episode sets the stage for our upcoming conversations about facial recognition, reverse key word warrants, geofence warrants, and the general rise of big data policing. The ultimate question: Given the Supreme Court and lower Court decisions on Fourth Amendment Cases, what faith should we have that the legal profession is ready to usher the Fourth Amendment into the 21st century?   Guests: Jumana Musa, Director, Fourth Amendment Center, National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers   Resources: Carpenter v U.S. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/17pdf/16-402_h315.pdf Riley v California https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/13-132 Electronic Frontier Foundation https://www.eff.org/ Fourth Amendment Center https://www.nacdl.org/Landing/FourthAmendmentCenter ACLU Fourth Amendment https://www.aclu.org/issues/criminal-law-reform/reforming-police/search-and-seizure   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Without exception, every single state Public Defender system is facing a shortage of Public Defenders. In many of our episodes, we've discussed innovative ways to try and bolster the number of people in law school interested in pursuing a career in Public Defense. Unfortunately as today's guest reveals, there is simply no way for law schools to solve the shortage of people. John Gross has spent the better part of the last two decades trying to come up with ways to solve the crisis in Public Defense. Without drastic systemic changes, and perhaps a string of case refusals, he is certain that we cannot simply recruit our way out of the shortage of Public Defenders.     Guests: Professor John Gross, Director of the Public Defender Project, University of Wisconsin School of Law   Resources: John's Faculty Page https://law.wisc.edu/profiles/jpgross3@wisc.edu John's previous writings on Public Defense https://www.publicdefenders.us/blog_home.asp?display=1062   https://www.publicdefenders.us/blog_home.asp?display=35    https://harvardlawreview.org/blog/2023/03/reframing-the-indigent-defense-crisis/   https://www.nacdl.org/Document/GideonI-RationingJusticeUnderfundedAssignedCounsel   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by fellow podcaster David Moore. David is the host of the incredible Podcast, Another Not Guilty, that seeks to take a Public Defender twist on the true crime genre. As arguably the most popular genre of podcast, the true crime world often disregards the cases that result in a not guilty and are desperately lacking the perspective of the defense counsel who secure them. With ANG, David strives to give a platform for Public Defenders from around the country to showcase their victories in a manner that pokes fun at the comical stupidity our legal system.   Guests: David Moore, Public Defender, Los Angeles and Host of the Another Not Guilty Podcast   Resources: Another Not Guilty Podcast https://www.anothernotguiltypod.com/ Another Not Guilty Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/3tSDZ0wKsXpwSHDqW81CU8 Another Not Guilty Apple https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/another-not-guilty/id1395439829   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by UCLA law student, Kaelen Perrochet, for another deep dive into the world of legal ethics. Last time he was on, Kaelen explored the reasons why we punish people, and today, he brings more excellent commentary on why it is so difficult for people to imagine a country that protects a person's positive and negative rights.   Guests: Kaelen Perrochet, Law Student, UCLA School of Law   Resources: Follow Kaelen on Twitter https://twitter.com/KaelenPerrochet Follow Kaelen on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/kperrochet/?hl=en   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

After speaking with Chief Public Defenders from most of the major metropolitan areas in California, Hunter turns today's episode to the smallest full time Public Defender Office in the state. Lael Kayfetz, Chief Public Defender in Siskiyou County California, joins the show to share her experience of leading an office in conservative, rural California. While not all the things that make her successful can easily be ported over to larger jurisdictions, there is a great many lessons to be learned from a leader who has successfully navigated this challenging political climate over an amazing 18-year career.   Guests: Lael Kayfetz, Chief Public Defender, Siskiyou County, California   Resources: Contact Lael https://www.co.siskiyou.ca.us/public-defender/custom-contact-page/public-defender-contact-information   AB 625 https://pluralpolicy.com/app/legislative-tracking/bill/details/state-ca-20212022-ab625/787429   Lake County 6AC Report https://6ac.org/lake-county-california-report/   Santa Cruz County 6AC Report https://6ac.org/santacruz/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

An unfortunate theme of the show is the reality that the Supreme Court is more than happy to close the doors of the courthouse to those who are factually or legally innocent. Preferring to uphold and support the concept of "finality" over truth, the Supreme Court once again found a way to keep a potentially innocent man from escaping an unjust sentence. Joining Hunter to discuss this and more is Alison Guernsey, Director of the University of Iowa College of Law Federal Criminal Defense Clinic, and Meredith Esser, Director of the University of Wyoming College of Law Defender Aid Clinic. As former Federal Public Defenders themselves, both hope to draw attention to the immense disparity between people's conception of justice and the "justice" available to those trapped in the Federal Criminal Legal System.     Guests: Professor Alison Guernsey, Director Federal Criminal Defense Clinic, University of Iowa College of Law Professor Meredith Esser, Director Defender Aid Clinic, University of Wyoming College of Law   Resources: Jones v Hendrix https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-857_4357.pdf https://theappeal.org/supreme-court-jones-v-hendrix-hurting-innocent-people/ Shinn v Ramirez https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-1009_19m2.pdf Rehaif v US https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/18pdf/17-9560_e2p3.pdf Changes to Compassionate Release https://www.fd.org/news/sentencing-commission-votes-expand-compassionate-release   FCI Dublin Coverage   https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/fci-dublin-womens-prison-sexual-abuse-class-action-lawsuit-filed-bureau-of-prisons/   https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/two-more-dublin-federal-correctional-officers-plead-guilty-sexually-abusing-multiple   Meredith's Law Review Article "Extraordinary Punishment: Conditions of Confinement and Compassionate Release"   https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4410197   Allegra McLeod Law Review Article "Prison Abolition and Grounded Justice" https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2502&context=facpub   Alison's Faculty Page   https://law.uiowa.edu/people/alison-k-guernsey   Follow Alison on Twitter   https://twitter.com/alison_guernsey?lang=en   Meredith's Faculty Page   https://www.uwyo.edu/law/directory/meredith-esser.html    Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by Delaware Chief Public Defender, Kevin O'Connell. Last time, Kevin came on to discuss the uniquely terrible Delaware Law Enforcement Bill of Rights. This time, Hunter and Kevin did a deeper dive into the past, present, and future of Public Defense in the state of Delaware. Of all the important parts of this episode, the journey taken by Delaware Public Defense following their Sixth Amendment Center report is strong evidence that meaningful change is possible!   Guests: Kevin O'Connell, Chief Public Defender, Delaware     Resources: Delaware Public Defender Report https://6ac.org/delaware-report/ Public Defender Delaware https://ods.delaware.gov/ Delaware Campaign to End Debtor's Prisons https://finesandfeesde.org/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter sat down with a fierce, lifelong advocate for a better system of Youth Justice. Betsy Clarke, the Founder of the Juvenile Justice Initiative, joins the show today to talk about her hope for continuing to improve the youth justice system at the state level. Drawing on decades of work and important lessons from the youth justice systems of other nations, Betsy is an amazing resource for all those trying to find ways to overhaul our exceptionally cruel juvenile justice system.   Guests: Betsy Clarke, Founder, Juvenile Justice Initiative Resources: Convention on the Rights of the Child https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-rights-child Juvenile Justice Initiative https://www.jjustice.org/new-page-1     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by two amazing advocates from Partners for Justice. Rebecca Solow, Founder and Co-Executive Director, and Vichal Kumar, Director of Capacity Building, join us today to discuss the amazing progress of their partnerships with state and local public defender offices around the country. The best part of these Partners for Justice programs is the way they build the capacity of Public Defense by responding to the individual needs of each office and jurisdiction. From California, Missouri, Kansas, and Cook County, Partners For Justice is a leader in finding innovative, cost effective ways to create better, more vibrant public defender offices.   Guests: Rebecca Solow, Founder and Co-Executive Director, Partners for Justice Vichal Kumar, Director of Capacity Building, Partners for Justice   Resources: Partners for Justice https://www.partnersforjustice.org/ PFJ Twitter https://twitter.com/PFJ_USA     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by Sean Wilson, the Organizing Director at Dream Corp Justice, to discuss his journey from incarceration to community organizing to driving major criminal legal reforms. After 17 years of incarceration, Sean understood the ways our mass incarceration system fails to help people rehabilitate and re-enter society with the skills they need to thrive. From his local community in Milwaukee to communities around the country, Sean brings incredible passion and drive to help people avoid ever interacting with the criminal legal system.   Guests: Sean Wilson, the Organizing Director at Dream Corp Justice, Dream.org   Resources: Sean Wilson Dream.org https://dream.org/team-members/sean-wilson/ Dream.Org https://twitter.com/thedreamcorps https://www.instagram.com/dream.corps/ https://www.facebook.com/thedreamcorps     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter sat down with Professor Keramet Reiter to discuss her decades+ research into solitary confinement and the American Prison System. In her immense scholarship, it is easier to say what Keramet has not written about than what she has. With her vast array of American and International solitary confinement practices, she is the perfect guest to explain the problems with solitary confinement and the prison system as a whole   Guests: Keramet Reiter, Professor & Vice Chair of Criminology, Law & Society and School of Law, University of California Irvine School of Social Ecology Resources: Keramet's Website (where you can find all of her books!) http://www.kerametreiter.com/ Keramet's Faculty Page https://faculty.sites.uci.edu/reiter/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by two fierce advocates for youth justice in the state of Tennessee. Chris Kleiser, a Knox County Public Defender, and Meribah Knight, a Senior Reporter for Special Projects with Nashville Public Radio, bring us a story of how one rouge judge illegally policed and caged young people in Rutherford County Tennessee. Many of you may have read the shocking reporting last year about Judge Donna Scott Davenport. Over more than two decades, she abused her position of power on the bench, and today's episode is designed to figure out what structural things in the Tennessee criminal legal system allow this to happen.     Guests: Christina Kleiser, Assistant Public Defender and Youth Lead, Knox County, Tennessee Meribah Knight, Senior Reporter for Special Projects, Nashville Public Radio     Resources: Black Children Were Jailed for a Crime That Doesn't Exist. Almost Nothing Happened to the Adults in Charge https://www.propublica.org/article/black-children-were-jailed-for-a-crime-that-doesnt-exist Judge Davenport Plans to Retire https://www.propublica.org/article/new-bill-seeks-to-remove-tennessee-judge-who-illegally-jailed-children Check out the In Defense of Children Podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/5RrAfBAibvkm117xBx8GmW https://www.instagram.com/indefenseofchildrenpodcast/ Follow Meribah Knight on Twitter https://twitter.com/meribah?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Read Meribah's Work https://www.meribahknight.com/ Serial's Podcast with Meribah https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/19/podcasts/serial-kids-rutherford-county.html https://open.spotify.com/show/4SwSDvOGcbc4cPA52nS4ww https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-kids-of-rutherford-county/id1707247008 Knox County Public Defender https://www.pdknox.org/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today's guest brings a decade plus of experience in criminal justice policy reform to the San Francisco Public Defender Office. Hunter spoke with Angela Chan, Chief of Confront and Advocate, the policy branch of the SF Public Defender Office. In most places, District Attorneys operate by themselves in the policy world, and that is part of the reason that our society is awash with their policy preferences. In San Francisco however, Brooke Jenkins must compete with the powerful voice of Angela, Mano, and the rest of the policy centric branches of the San Francisco Public Defender.     Guests: Angela Chan, Chief of Confront and Advocate, San Francisco Public Defender's Office     Resources: SF Public Defender Office Hires Angela Chan https://sfpublicdefender.org/news/2022/02/san-francisco-public-defender-announces-the-hiring-of-angela-chan-long-time-immigrant-advocate-for-the-asian-law-caucus/ SF Public Defender Office https://sfpublicdefender.org/ Brooke Jenkins Blames Judges for Crisis https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/jenkins-blames-judges-for-fueling-sf-drug-crisis-18279532.php SF Public Defender Twitter https://twitter.com/sfdefender?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Brooke Jenkins Misconduct https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/brooke-jenkins-misconduct-18338499.php     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with a longtime investigator in the innocence movement, Adam Deutsch, to discuss the wrongful conviction of Tim Wright. In 2008, was convicted of the murder of Justin Baumgardner, but after more than a decade behind bars, evidence is mounting that Tim is behind bars as a result of an elaborate cover up by the Amherst County Deputy Sheriffs. With the help of bad ballistics, bad cellular triangulation, and a witness with every motive to lie, Tim was convicted. Thankfully, there are people like Adam and Tim's wife Danielle tirelessly fighting for the truth to come to light. Guests: Adam Deutsch, Investigator and Founder of Synergy Intelligence Holdings Resources: Tim Wright 2018 Georgetown Making an Exoneree https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXiv05XlrJ0 Tim Wright Uncuff the Innocent https://www.uncufftheinnocent.org/tim-wright-jr Tim Wright's Website https://innocence4tim.com/ Tim Wright Twitter https://twitter.com/innocence4tim?lang=en Contact Adam http://www.synergyintelligence.com/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

*There was an issue with the file uploading to the podcast platforms. It has been corrected! Apologies* Today, Hunter spoke with Iowa Public Defender, Darren Page, to peel back the layers of Public Defense in Iowa to try and understand why the Chief Justice of the Iowa Supreme Court said the system was in a state of crisis. On many episodes, Hunter likes to explore how states determine if someone should get a Public Defender and if states make those who get a Public Defender reimburse the state for the costs. In Iowa, the state has decided to narrowly define who is too poor to qualify for a Public Defender while also mandating that people reimburse the state for costs. While this is not what's causing the crisis, it is a signal of a system desperate for reforms. Guests: Darren Page, Assistant Public Defender, Des Moines, Iowa Resources: Iowa Public Defender in a state of Crisis https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2023/01/11/iowa-indigent-defense-attorneys-crisis-supreme-court-chief-justice/69792316007/ Iowa State Public defender https://spd.iowa.gov/ Iowa Public Defender Strategic Plan 2019-2023 https://spd.iowa.gov/sites/default/files/SPD%20Strategic%20Plan%20-%202019-2023.pdf Iowa Annual Public Defender Reports https://spd.iowa.gov/about-us/spd-reports Iowa Living Wage https://livingwage.mit.edu/states/19 National Poverty Guidelines https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/federal-poverty-level-FPL/ United Way Iowa https://www.unitedwaydm.org/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Joining Hunter today is Keith Wattley, the Founder and Executive Director of Uncommon Law. Keith and his team at Uncommon Law support people navigating California's discretionary parole process through trauma-informed legal representation, mental health counselling, legislative and policy advocacy, and in-prison programming led by those who have been through the process themselves. For decades, people have been aware of the pervasive bias that infects the parole system of California, but little has changed to address it. That's where Keith and Uncommon Law come in. Guests: Keith Wattley, Founder and Executive Director, Uncommon Law Resources: Uncommon Law Website https://www.uncommonlaw.org/ Follow Uncommon Law on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/uncommonlawyer/ Twitter https://twitter.com/UnCommLaw Facebook https://www.facebook.com/UnCommonLaw/ 1.     The Compassion Prison Project has some great information about rates of trauma - in particular, childhood trauma - among people in prison, and the relationship between Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) and incarceration 2.     The Sentencing Project has several really excellent reports about our country's enduring reliance on life sentencing, how ineffective these kinds of sentences actually are in promoting public safety, and the relationship between life sentencing and mass incarceration 3.     Speaking of the Sentencing Project, Keith recently authored this op ed in The Crime Report with their Senior Director of Advocacy Nicole Porter, which explores similar ideas 4.     The Justice Policy Institute recently released this analysis of Maryland's parole process, highlighting several of the same issues we see in California.  5.     Similarly, there has been fairly regular coverage of the racial biases evident in New York's parole hearing decisions in recent years 6.     Finally, feel free to check out this video series our organization put out last year; it explores cycles of violence from the perspectives of people who have both survived and caused harm, and gives a good sense of our work and messaging   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by criminal defense attorney and former public defender Amelia Power to discuss her role in defending those who protested the killing of Elijah McClain. As is so often the case, those who used their 1st Amendment rights to protest the abuses of police found themselves facing hefty prison time.   Guests: Amelia Power, Criminal Defense Attorney, Colorado     Resources: Media Coverage of the Case https://www.westword.com/news/elijah-mcclain-protesters-charges-dropped-12335973 https://www.apowerlaw.com/media Contact Amelia https://www.apowerlaw.com/ Elijah McClain https://www.nytimes.com/article/who-was-elijah-mcclain.html FBI Informants in the Colorado Racial Justice Movement https://theintercept.com/2023/02/07/fbi-denver-racial-justice-protests-informant/ Aurora Police Response to Violin Vigil https://abcnews.go.com/US/city-aurora-sued-police-response-violin-vigil-elijah/story?id=71951197 PSL https://pslweb.org/   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

While the Innocence Project has continuously done amazing work in revealing just how flawed our legal system can be, there has always been limits on the cases they take. Normally, these have been confined to cases where DNA evidence can definitively exonerate the wrongfully convicted. This practice can and does leave out countless people who are factually innocent behind bars. Today, Hunter spoke with Valena Beety to examine the women and LGBTQ community members who have been wrongfully convicted and how to best go about expanding the innocence movement.   Guests: Valena Beety, Professor of Law, Indiana University Mercer School of Law, Founding Director of the West Virginia Innocence Project   Resources: Valena Beety's Webpage https://valenabeety.com/ Buy Valena's Book https://www.amazon.com/Manifesting-Justice-Wrongly-Convicted-Reclaim-ebook/dp/B09FFWZ54C/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= Lambda Law https://lambdalegal.org/   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Few organizations have been able to demonstrate the injustice of our criminal legal system quite like the Innocence Project, but their fight against the things that manifest that injustice is far from over. Today, I spoke with Christina Swarns, Executive Director of the Innocence Project, to discuss how the organization plans to combat some of the most pressing issues contributing to wrongful convictions. From massively overworked Public Defenders, all kinds of implicit biases, and ever emerging forensic sciences, the Innocence Project hopes that their continued public advocacy will push back against these societal ills.     Guests: Christina Swarns, Executive Director, Innocence Project   Resources: Innocence Project Website https://innocenceproject.org/ Follow the Innocence Project on Twitter: https://twitter.com/innocence?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/innocenceproject/?hl=en Buck v Davis https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/15-8049_f2ah.pdf https://www.oyez.org/cases/2016/15-8049   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Another union episode and another union episode predicated on a communication failure, a cost-of-living crisis and a desperate need for a fair contract. Today, Hunter spoke with three members of the NDS Harlem union, William Botchway, Naomi Schachter and Jeremy Tinsley, to discuss where the NDS Harlem stands now two months past the expiration of their previous contract. For everyone from entry level attorneys to social workers, and housing advocates, the compensation at NDS Harlem is simply not enough to survive with New Yorks exorbitant cost of living. Without a new, fair contract, NDS Harlem will surely start to bleed talent in a way that no office can afford.   Guests: William Botchway, Housing Advocate and Union Member, NDS Harlem Jeremy Tinsley, Criminal Defense Attorney and Union Member, NDS Harlem Naomi Schachter, Social Worker in the Family Defense Unit and Union Member, NDS Harlem   Resources: NDS Harlem https://neighborhooddefender.org/locations/harlem/ NDS Union on Twitter https://twitter.com/NDSUnion NDS Union Instagram https://www.instagram.com/ndsunion/ ALAA Union Twitter https://twitter.com/alaa2325?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Housing Crisis in New York https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/articles/2023/05/25/new-yorks-housing-shortage-pushes-up-rents-and-homelessness Living Wage New York https://livingwage.mit.edu/counties/36061     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter continues his exploration of the criminal legal system in Alaska. Joining him today is Fairbanks Public Defender, Justin Racette. On Tuesday, folks from the ACLU of Alaska talked us through how the turn to tough on crime polices created brutal prison conditions, and today, we will see how those policies have impacted the ability for Alaska Public Defenders to provide competent representation to each of their clients.   Guests: Justin Racette, Assistant Public Defender, Fairbanks Alaska Resources: Alaska Public Defender https://doa.alaska.gov/pda/ Alaska Public Defender Case Refusal https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2023/02/01/alaska-public-defenders-will-begin-refusing-cases-in-nome-and-bethel-citing-staff-shortage/ https://alaskapublic.org/2023/02/03/alaska-public-defenders-to-refuse-some-nome-and-bethel-cases-citing-staffing/   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with Michael Garvey and Megan Edge of the ACLU of Alaska to examine the policy history of Alaska that has made it such a pro carceral state. For a brief moment in the mid 2010's, Alaska looked like it would start to turn towards a more rehabilitative model for its criminal legal system. Unfortunately, current Governor Mike Dunleavy had different plans. With his election in 2018, the state shifted right back to its history of being tough on crime and pro carceral. Now, the state is still one of the highest incarcerators in the world, but with little change in the rates of violent crime. Michael and Megan breakdown what that means for the people of Alaska and what can be done about it.     Guests: Michael Garvey, Advocacy Director, ACLU of Alaska Megan Edge, Prison Project Director, ACLU of Alaska   Resources: ACLU of Alaska https://www.acluak.org/en Follow Megan on Twitter https://twitter.com/Megtedge Follow Michael on Twitter https://twitter.com/mpg167 The Appeal's Coverage of Alaska Move to Tough on Crime Policies https://theappeal.org/alaska-passed-sweeping-criminal-justice-reforms-its-new-governor-just-unraveled-them/   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Part of the goals of this show is to remind Public Defenders that they are not alone in their fight. There is a massive network across the nation of people from all walks of life fighting both in and out of the court room to try and make a more just legal system. Today, Hunter is once again joined by University of Michigan Professor of Law Eve Primus. This time, Hunter and Eve are talking about the MDefenders latest program, the Data for Defenders. This new tool from the University of Michigan is designed to provide Defenders with motions and brief that incorporate the latest and greatest social science data.     Guests: Eve Primus, Professor of Law, University of Michigan     Resources: Data for Defenders https://datafordefenders.org/ MDefenders https://www.law.umich.edu/mdefenders/Pages/default.aspx Follow Eve on Twitter https://twitter.com/PrimusEve Eve's Law Review Article https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4232443 Contact Eve ebrensik@umich.edu   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

There may be no Public Defender Union with as long and storied of a history as the New York Legal Aid Society's, and today, Hunter spoke with Chapter Chair of the NY Legal Aid Union, Jane Fox, to discuss the efforts to revitalize that very union. The challenges facing Jane and all Public Defenders in New York City are immense. The crushing criminal caseload is compounded by the cost-of-living crisis impacting the attorneys, staff, and their clients. If Public Defenders and their clients are going to thrive in these difficult conditions, it will be thanks to the tireless efforts of Jane and the Legal Aid Union.   Guests: Jane Fox, Chapter Chair, NY Legal Aid Society Union, Association of Legal Aid Attorneys     Resources: ALAA https://www.alaa.org/ Follow Jane on Twitter https://twitter.com/foxsquire?lang=en Email Jane JFox@alaa.org Issues with Mold in Building https://nysfocus.com/2023/08/28/legal-aid-society-mold-brooklyn   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

From the limited discovery, limited access to witnesses, and the limited resources, Federal Public Defenders around the country are fighting for their clients at a massive disadvantage. Today, Hunter spoke with two Federal Public Defenders, Colin Prince and Jay McEntire, to try and understand how and why the deck is so heavily stacked against them. Drawing from their experience as corporate civil litigators, Colin and Jay demonstrate how our society empowers those fighting over money while simultaneously disempowers those fighting for their liberty.   Guests: Colin Prince, Chief Appellate Attorney, Federal Defenders of Eastern Washington and Idaho Jay McEntire, Senior Litigator, Federal Defenders of Eastern Washington and Idaho   Resources: Federal Defenders of Eastern Washington and Idaho https://www.fdewi.org/index.html Impending Cuts to Federal Public Defender System https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-judiciary-warns-congress-against-cuts-public-defender-cyber-spending-2023-08-01/   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Montana Public Defense has seen a lot in the 21st century. A lawsuit in the early aughts lead to massive changes and the creation of the state public defender system. Now almost 20 years later, the Montana Public Defense system is still only treading water. Driven by an shortage of attorneys around the state and severe under pay, the system is looking for new, innovative ways to stay afloat. Joining Hunter to discuss these newer data driven approaches is Brett Schandelson, Director of the State Public Defender. With so few attorneys in so much of the state, the challenges ahead of Brett and his team are immense, but the changes he is implementing just might be what saves Public Defense in Montana.     Guests: Brett Schandelson, Director, Montana Office of the State Public Defender     Resources: Office of the State Public Defender https://publicdefender.mt.gov/ Case Refusal Yellowstone County https://apnews.com/article/courts-montana-billings-5c9b515e281d4f53ca02bc4880226bf8 Broken Defense Coverage of Montana Public Defense https://missoulian.com/news/national/unconstitutional-public-defense-systems-upend-lives-freedom-across-west/article_22b17815-34f2-5798-a6a4-6d537e6a9886.html   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

What can we learn from the successes of other countries? Today, Hunter spoke with Iliana Pujols to compare and contrast the youth criminal legal system where she works in Connecticut and Norway. In particular, we discuss just how far removed from accepted international practices of youth justice, and what needs to be done to break through the American exceptionalism that stops Americans from learning from other countries.     Guests: Iliana Pujols, Policy Director at Connecticut Justice Alliance, Young Justice Leader Pathfinders for Peace, Justice and Inclusive Societies     Resources: Pathfinders Young Justice Leaders https://www.sdg16.plus/ Contact Iliana iliana@ctja.org Connecticut Justice Alliance https://ctja.org/ Follow Iliana on Twitter https://twitter.com/ilianap_       Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

As one of the many states without a unified system of Public Defense, the consistency of Public Defense and access to legal services from county to county is wildly inconsistent. Joining Hunter to speak about this justice by geography model is Larry Jefferson, Director of the Office of Public Defense. Despite the name, Larry and his office only hold limited ability to direct and assist in the delivery of Public Defense across Washington. Nonetheless, Larry has dreams of a completely different model for justice that he hopes his office can help lead the state towards.   Guests: Larry Jefferson Jr., Director, Washington Office of Public Defense, Resources: Washington OPD https://opd.wa.gov/ State v Blake https://law.justia.com/cases/washington/supreme-court/2021/96873-0.html Email Larry larry.jefferson@opd.wa.gov   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by Devin Franklin from the Southern Center for Human Rights to discuss the latest violation of civil liberties in the state of Georgia. Today, they are discussing the recent indictment levied against 61 cop city protesters. As you read over the 100+ page indictment, you will find one consistent theme: the Attorney General of Georgia is doing everything in his power to cage as many people as possible who would dare challenge the power, plans, and policy of the state of Georgia.   Guests: Devin Franklin, Movement Policy Counsel, Southern Center for Human Rights   Resources: Cop City Indictment https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/GAOAG/2023/09/05/file_attachments/2604508/23SC189192%20-%20CRIMINAL%20INDICTMENT.pdf Coverage on the Indictment https://atlpresscollective.com/2023/09/05/georgia-attorney-general-brings-rico-indictments-against-61-activists/ YSL Indictment https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/young-slime-life-indictment.pdf Intercept Coverage of the Murder of Tortugita https://theintercept.com/2023/04/20/atlanta-cop-city-protester-autopsy/ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/tortuguita-shooting-atlanta-cop-city-b2324547.html Southern Center for Human Rights https://www.schr.org/ https://twitter.com/southerncenter https://www.schr.org/protecting-dissent-schr-launches-first-amendment-lawyer-bridge/ Stop Cop City https://stopcop.city/   Follow Devin on Twitter https://twitter.com/BrotherInLawATL   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with President of the National Association for Public Defense's Board of Directors, Cydni Sanchez, to discuss the NAPD's plan to help Public Defenders around the country implement the new National Workload Standards. With her experience in New Mexico, Cydni is expertly situated to dissect the difficulties of making a workload study like this turn into meaningful policy victories.   Guests: Cydni Sanchez, President, Board of Directors, National Association for Public Defense, Deputy Chief Public Defender, New Mexico   Resources: Read the Full Report Here https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA2559-1.html New Mexico ABA report https://www.americanbar.org/groups/legal_aid_indigent_defense/indigent_defense_systems_improvement/publications/nm-project/ 2007 Caseload Study  2021 Caseload Study  New Mexico Public Defender Website      Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter once again sat down with Stephen Hanlon to talk Public Defender Workload Studies. This time, they spoke about the brand new National Workload Standards for Public Defense that are finally out as of today! While it is extremely easy to be pessimistic about the potential for a workload study to lead to meaningful change in Public Defense, this could be a water shed moment. This report provides Public Defenders around the country with the data they need to stand up for themselves and their clients as the workload crisis rages on.   Guests: Stephen Hanlon, Public Interest Attorney     Resources: Read the Full Report Here https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA2559-1.html Lawyer Hanlon https://lawyerhanlon.com/ Stephen Hanlon Law Review Article https://www.slu.edu/law/law-journal/pdfs/issues-archive/v61-no4/stephen_hanlon_article.pdf State v Waters https://casetext.com/case/state-ex-rel-mo-pub-defender-commn-v-waters     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Last year, Hunter spoke with members of the newly formed Defenders Union of Colorado (DUC) to discuss their reason for unionization and the challenges facing all employees of Colorado Public Defense. Today, Hunter is once again speaking with DUC, but this time, they discussed the complete failure of leadership to be transparent with them and how that is eroding trust between the two.   Guests: Kiyomi Bolick, Long Time Colorado Public Defender and a Founding Organizer of DUC Mike Kubicek, Investigator, Durango Office of the Public Defender Oliver Rose Katz, Administrative Assistant, Brighton Office of the Public Defender Resources: Colorado Public Defenders Raise Concern over Pay https://www.denverpost.com/2023/05/17/colorado-public-defenders-pay-petition-union-16-million/ Follow DUC on Twitter https://twitter.com/DefenderUnionCO Follow DUC on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/defenders_union_of_colorado/ Colorado Public Defender https://www.coloradodefenders.us/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

When the Sixth Amendment Center came to Indiana, it left no doubt that Public Defense in the state was failing. Now seven years later, almost nothing has changed. How can that be possible? To answer that question and exploring why Indiana's Public Defender system is still failing, Hunter spoke with three Public Defenders, Ashley Spolarich, Deana Martin, and Joel Schumm, from Indiana.     Guests: Ashley Spolarich, Chief Deputy Public Defender, Montgomery County Indiana Deana Martin, Major Case/Forensic Attorney, Marion County Professor Joel Schumm, Clincal Professor, Indiana Robert McKinney School of Law     Resources: Sixth Amendment Center Report https://sixthamendment.org/indiana-stands-as-a-cautionary-tale-for-other-states-with-similar-indigent-defense-system-models/ Indiana Public Defender Task Force https://www.in.gov/publicdefender/publications/indiana-task-force-on-public-defense/#:~:text=The%20Indiana%20Task%20Force%20on%20Public%20Defense%20is%20chaired%20by,as%20various%20other%20stakeholder%20groups. Indiana Workload Report https://www.in.gov/publicdefender/files/The-Indiana-Project_FINAL.pdf Lawsuits in various counties in the state ·        Johnson County: https://www.theindianalawyer.com/articles/45762-coa-affirms-dismissal-of-johnson-county-public-defender-suit ·        Allen County: https://www.southbendtribune.com/story/news/crime/2016/01/06/suit-filed-against-allen-county-over-public-defender-system/46421583/ (Docket: https://clearinghouse.net/case/15792/?docket_page=2#docket) Indiana Lawyer Article on Shortage of Public Defenders https://www.theindianalawyer.com/articles/attorneys-hard-to-find-for-prosecutor-public-defender-openings-shortage-of-public-attorneys-leaves-offices-scrambling-to-manage-caseloads Indiana Public Defender Council https://www.in.gov/ipdc/       Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with Professor Ieshaah Murphy to understand how the racist history of the "Child Welfare" should inform our understanding of that very systems today. When analyzing a system for any type of systemic bias, it is essential to understand bot the past and present of the system. If a system that claims to be race neutral, but started with a clear racial animus and continues to produce racially disparate outcomes, it is compelling evidence that its bias initial purpose may still be active to this day.   Guests: Professor Ieshaah Murphy, Assistant Professor of Law and Director of the Criminal Defense and Racial Justice Clinic, University of DC David A. Clarke School of Law Resources: Follow Professor Murphy on Twitter https://twitter.com/IeshaahMurphy Professor Murphy's Faculty Page https://law.udc.edu/ieshaah-murphy/ Fostering False Identities Book https://www.amazon.com/Fostering-False-Identity-Welfare-Systems/dp/B08TQGG3FR Torn Apart https://www.amazon.com/Torn-Apart-Destroys-Families-Abolition/dp/1541675444       Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

How many people die in custody? Such a simple question, but no one can actually tell you the answer. Today, Hunter spoke with Professor Jay Aronson to discuss his new book Death in Custody: How America Ignores the Truth and What We Can Do about It to explore the reasons why.   Guests: Professor Jay Aronson, Professor of Science, Technology, and Society, Carnegie Mellon University   Resources: Buy the book (use code HTWN) https://www.press.jhu.edu/books/authors/jay-d-aronson-phd Professor Aronson Faculty Page https://www.cmu.edu/dietrich/history/people/faculty/aronson.html Follow Professor Aronson on Twitter https://twitter.com/jaydaronson  Listen to the Official Ignorance Podcast! https://open.spotify.com/show/5n5OPnSGj3A3RYFvcJIH62?si=J65-gXWlRrWhSiaU8m7pZw   https://officialignorance.com/earl-faison-and-the-origins-of-the-official-ignorance-project/       Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

For cops and prosecutors, the idea of not having access to their own forensic departments is almost inconceivable, but for Public Defense, that is the standard practice. Today, Hunter sat down with Jerome Greco, the supervising attorney for one of the only digital forensics unit in the country made specifically available to Public Defenders. With the rapid expansion of surveillance and digital technology in the hands of police and prosecutors, Public Defense should look to the success of Jerome and his team as a potential model to fight back.     Guests: Jerome Greco, Digital Forensics Supervising Attorney, New York Legal Aid Society   Resources:   Follow Jerome on Twitter https://twitter.com/JeromeDGreco Email Jerome jgreco@legal-aid.org Upturn https://www.upturn.org/ NACDL 4th Amendment Center https://www.nacdl.org/Landing/FourthAmendmentCenter     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is once again joined by former NACDL President Martin Sabelli to discuss the criminal charge that everyone is talking about, RICO. As with many laws on the books, RICO started out designed to target a specific group of people: leadership of the Mafia. Also like many laws on the books, it was written in such an ambiguous and wide manner that prosecutors could use it far beyond its intended purpose. Over the years, RICO has been used against targets never intended or envisioned by those who originally supported the law, and today's episode is all about understanding how that happened, why it happened, and what, if anything, we can do to try and stop the creative and expansive use of a law that infringes on the rights of people every time a prosecutor decides to be "creative" with its use of RICO.     Guests: Martin Sabelli, Former President of NACDL and longtime Federal Criminal Defense Attorney     Resources: Resources on RICO Cases 1st Amendment and RICO https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1237/rico-laws Issues with RICO https://sites.law.duq.edu/juris/2021/11/17/the-checkered-past-and-present-of-the-rico-act/ Fani Willis Prosecution of Teachers https://theappeal.org/atlanta-cheating-prosecutions-fani-willis-rico/                                                                                 Issues with RICO https://www.independent.org/publications/TIR/article.asp?id=215 Email Martin msabelli@sabellilaw.com   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Despite being the bedrock of our criminal legal system, "the jury trial is an exceptional rather than a commonplace outcome." Today, Hunter is joined by Martin Sabelli and Nathan Pysno to discuss somethings leading to the erosion of the jury trial. Specifically, they discuss how harsh sentences enable coercive plea bargaining and enshrine the "trial penalty". Few if any other Constitutionally protected rights lead to a person being punished for using them, but the trial penalty is nothing more than punishing people for forcing the government to prove a person committed a crime at trial.     Guests: Martin Sabelli, Former President of NACDL and Criminal Defense Attorney Nathan Pysno, Director of Economic Crime and Procedural Justice, NACDL     Resources: ABA Report on Jury Trials Disappearing https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2020/12/report-jury-trials/ ABA Plea Bargaining Task Force Report https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/publications/criminaljustice/plea-bargain-tf-report.pdf NACDL Trial Penalty https://www.nacdl.org/Document/TrialPenaltySixthAmendmentRighttoTrialNearExtinct End the Trial Penalty https://www.endthetrialpenalty.org/#:~:text=Who%20We%20Are,achieving%20a%20truly%20just%20society.&text=Embedded%20Player%20Advocates%20say%20defendants,a%20so%2Dcalled%20trial%20penalty.     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

In the past few weeks, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis decided to abuse his powers once again as the head of state and remove an elected State Attorney. This time, the 9th Judicial Circuit State Attorney Monique Worrell landed in Governor DeSantis' cross hairs. Today, Hunter is joined by Central Florida Criminal Defense Attorney Andrew Darling to discuss what happened. If you take the story that Governor DeSantis proclaims on face value, you could be led to believe that Worrell was a rouge prosecutor allowing crime to go unpunished. As Andrew points out however, Worrell was a moderately progressive prosecutor who's biggest deviation from the norm was wanting to pursue rehabilitation for youthful offenders, keeping low level drug offenses in diversionary programs, and a willingness to pursue cases against Police for their abuse of power.      Guests: Andrew Darling, Criminal Defense Attorney, Central Florida     Resources: Gov DeSantis' Executive Order Removing State Attorney Monique Worrell https://www.flgov.com/2023/08/09/governor-ron-desantis-suspends-state-attorney-monique-worrell-for-neglect-of-duty-and-incompetence/ Twitter Thread Explaining the Falsities in Gov DeSantis' Claims https://twitter.com/LutherEvers/status/1689672379776073728 Warren v. DeSantis https://casetext.com/case/warren-v-desantis-1 Follow Andrew on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MrDarling4 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrdarling4/ Darling Law: https://darlinglaw.com/ Orange County Court of Clerks 2023CF003924-A-O https://www.myorangeclerk.com/ Indictment of Orange County Deputy Bruce Stolk https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/04/01/orange-county-deputy-indicted-nearly-2-years-after-shooting-man-during-chase/         Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Trust between Public Defenders and the communities they serve has been a long running theme of the show. The benefits of such a trusting relationship seem obvious, but today, Hunter spoke with Wisconsin Public Defender, Alexander Kostal, to discuss an extremely important outcome from a trusting attorney/client relationship: increased opportunity for litigation. In order to push back against the overreaches of police and prosecutors, cases need to be heard in an open court room, but what if the client does not trust you to take it that far? How do you earn back that trust? What can institutions in public defense do to try and make it easier for communities to trust Public Defenders? All this and more explored on today's episode!   Guests: Alexander Kostal, Assistant State Public Defender, Wisconsin Resources:   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

In back-to-back years, the Sixth Amendment Center revealed that Public Defense in Detroit was failing. Both the contract and institutional Public Defender were failing to provide competent counsel in every case. For the largest city in Michigan, the future seemed dire. Then, the Neighborhood Defender Services extended their non-profit Public Defender Model to the city, and for the first time in a long time, there was a glimmer of hope for holistic defense in Detroit. Joining Hunter to speak about the challenges, trials, and hope for a better future for Detroit Public Defense is Cait De Mott Grady, Jonathan Roberts, and Tom Molina-Durate from the NDS Detroit Union. As with most union episodes, the demands of the union are similar: better pay for core staff and meaningful restrictions on workload. Hopefully, the contract negotiations will support the struggling workers of NDS Detroit and provide a spark for the continued improvement of Public Defense in Detroit.       Guests: Cait De Mott Grady, Staff Attorney and Union Member, NDS Detroit Jonathan Roberts, Staff Attorney and Union Member, NDS Detroit Tom Molina-Duarte, Social Worker and Union Member, NDS Detroit   Resources: NDS Detroit https://neighborhooddefender.org/locations/detroit/ Sixth Amendment Center Wayne County Reports https://sixthamendment.org/wayne-county-report/ https://sixthamendment.org/wayne-county-report-2019/ Follow the Union on Twitter https://twitter.com/NDSUnion Follow the Union on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/ndsunion/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Recently, Hunter was a guest host on the Another Not Guilty Podcast, and he is happy to share that episode today as a bonus show!     The Another Not Guilty Podcast details true crime's forbidden stories of the criminal system from the insiders' perspective of public defenders told with a little humor, drama, and passion for criminal justice reform. Visit them at www.anothernotguiltypod.com    In this week's episode we have Hunter Parnell from the Public Defenseless podcast as a co-host.  And also our guest PD is Hillary from Salt Lake City who shares her story of walking her client out the front door on a murder charge stemming from when he was 16 years old and being in the car when the driver shot and killed someone and blamed him.   You subscribe to Another Not Guilty Podcast on    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5TxGjq1zzMh5F6bHG8wvEE   Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/murder-ring-the-prosecutions-theory/id1395439829?i=1000625073790   Or Follow them on  Twitter: https://twitter.com/AnotherNG_pod

Sometimes referred to as Civil Asset Forfeiture, today's episode is an examination of the legalized theft that is civil forfeiture. Joining Hunter to unpack the intricacies of this topic, is Dan Alban. In his role at the Institute for Justice, Dan is one of the people at the forefront of people pushing back against the practice that flips the concept of innocent until proven guilty on its head. As you will hear on this episode, the complex legal nature of this topic masks a process that most Americans, when exposed to it, will viciously oppose.     Guests: Dan Alban, Senior Attorney at the Institute for Justice/Co-Director of the Campaign to end Forfeiture Abuse Resources: Richardson v. $20,771.00 U.S. Currency https://ij.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Initial-Brief-of-Respondents-FINAL-TO-FILE-07.15.20-IJ115663xA6322.pdf More on Richardson Case https://ij.org/report/policing-for-profit-3/pfp3content/evidence-suggests-forfeiture-doesnt-work/south-carolina-high-court-weighs-forfeiture-and-the-constitution/ Policing for Profit Report https://ij.org/report/policing-for-profit-3/ End Forfeiture Abuse https://endforfeiture.com/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Whether you call it Jury Nullification or Conscientious Acquittal, today's episode is all about the fight to reinvigorate the jury trial and the independence of the jury. Joining Hunter to discuss is Clark Neily, Senior VP for Legal Studies at the CATO Institute. Before America was even a country, the power of a jury to acquit someone of a charge they were legally guilty of because the jury disagree with the law as applied in this case was unquestioned. Over time however, prosecutors and judges pushed for and enabled the gradual erosion of the juries power. Now, more than 250 years after the founding, the jury trial is little more than a relic of the past, and even a whisper of jury independence in a court room can get jurors removed from a case. How did this happen and what can be done to reverse this trend? Find out by listening to today's episode!   Guests: Clark Neily, Senior Vice President for Legal Studies, CATO Institute Resources: Trial of John Peter Zenger https://www.ushistory.org/us/7c.asp Follow Clark on Twitter (not calling it X not even if there is a fire) https://twitter.com/conlawwarrior/with_replies CATO Jury Independence https://www.cato.org/policy-report/january/february-2014/historical-look-power-jury-independence#:~:text=Recently%20re%20released%20by%20the,abused%2C%20as%20has%20all%20power.   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

A little less than a year ago, Hunter spoke with Alexandra Bailey of the Sentencing Project to explore why states like Oklahoma so readily punish the survivors of domestic violence. Today, Hunter returns to Oklahoma to speak with Colleen McCarty and Leslie Briggs from Oklahoma Appleseed to discuss their work in trying to push back against the expansion of the carceral state in Oklahoma. In particular, this conversation centers in large part about the Wrongful Conviction of April Wilkens. With their podcast "Panic Button" Colleen, Leslie and all of Appleseed hope to expose the injustice in April's case, but also hope people realize that April is one of many women who face the power of the carceral state who are survivors of domestic violence.     Guests: Colleen McCarty, Founding Executive Director, Oklahoma Appleseed Leslie Briggs, Legal Director, Oklahoma Appleseed   Resources: Visit OK Appleseed https://okappleseed.org/ Follow OK Appleseed on: Facebook https://www.facebook.com/OKAppleseedCenter/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/ok_appleseed Twitter https://twitter.com/OK_Appleseed   Listen to the Panic Button Podcast https://panicbuttontheaprilwilkenscase.podbean.com/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/panic-button/id1630829857 Oklahoma Bill to Help Domestic Violence Survivors https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2023/03/oklahoma-lawmakers-are-watering-down-a-bill-thats-supposed-to-help-domestic-violence-survivors/ https://www.publicradiotulsa.org/local-regional/2023-07-03/it-was-unfair-the-push-for-retroactive-criminal-justice-for-domestic-violence-victims-who-killed-their-abusers Oklahoma School Superintendent no China in Schools https://www.thedailybeast.com/oklahoma-schools-boss-ryan-walters-goes-around-the-bend-with-new-conspiracy-theory     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

In the state of Georgia, the Public Defender Counsel lacks independence from the Executive Branch. As a result, their ability to speak out on social issues is severely limited. For former Georgia Public Defender Devin Franklin, the inability to speak out against police brutality in the wake of the murder of George Floyd drove him out of a decade long career in Public Defense. For him, and for Hunter, the advocacy of a Public Defender cannot end in the four walls of the court room. Tune in to today's conversation to hear about the Fulton County Jail, Cop City, and what the Public Defender Council of Georgia should be doing to call out these injustices   Guests: Devin Franklin, Movement Policy Counsel, Southern Center for Human Rights Resources:  Southern Center for Human Rights https://www.schr.org/ Follow Devin  on Twitter https://twitter.com/BrotherInLawATL Timeline of Cop City https://scalawagmagazine.org/2023/05/cop-city-atlanta-history-timeline/ Autopsy of activist, Manuel Paez Teran , killed at Cop City https://www.cbsnews.com/news/atlanta-cop-city-manuel-paez-teran-autopsy/ DOJ investigates Fulton County Jail https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/doj-investigation-fulton-county-jail-inmate-death-other-reports Deaths in Fulton County Jail https://theappeal.org/fulton-county-jail-deaths-spiked-2022-pad-funding/ Inside Fulton County Jail https://www.atlantamagazine.com/great-reads/the-real-behind-the-wall-a-look-inside-the-infamous-deadly-fulton-county-jail/   Register for the SCHR Pain and Power: Confronting Police Violence in Atlanta Seminar August 19th at The King Center 449 Auburn Avenue Northeast Atlanta, GA 30312 https://www.eventbrite.com/e/pain-power-confronting-police-violence-in-atlanta-tickets-673749441717?aff=oddtdtcreator   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Crushing workloads. High Turnover Rates. Low Pay. This is not the first time these topics have been brought up on the show, but today, Hunter spoke with two Maryland Public Defenders, Edie Fortuna and Jose Teneza, to discuss how those factors drove the Public Defenders to unionize.     Guests: Edie Fortuna, Assistant Public Defender, Maryland Jose Teneza, Assistant Public Defender, Maryland     Resources: Prepare Parole Maryland https://prepare-parole.org/ Maryland Public Defender https://www.opd.state.md.us/ Annual Reports https://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/25ind/html/61pubdr.html 2005 National Center for State Courts Workload Report https://silo.tips/download/maryland-attorney-and-staff-workload-assessment-2005  Listen to Jose's Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/watch-skip/id1640540726   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with two New York Criminal Defense Attorneys, Richard Willstatter and Stan Germán, to discuss the crisis at Rikers Island. For more than a decade, there has been a class action lawsuit against the city because of the inhumane conditions in the jails. Sadly, the calls for closure, reform, or receivership have continuously fallen on deaf ears. As a result, the death toll in Riker's is reaching record highs. While there may be good news coming in the near term as people with power finally decide to act, it cannot be forgotten that with every passing day, the lives of every person in the jail are at risk.   Guests: Richard Willstatter, Partner, Law Offices of Green and Willstatter Stan Germán, Executive Director, New York County Defender Services     Resources: NY Times Death Tracker at Rikers https://www.nytimes.com/article/rikers-deaths-jail.html Federal Prosecutor Urges Takeover of Rikers Island https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/nyregion/rikers-island-federal-takeover.html NYCDS https://nycds.org/ Timeline of Events at Rikers https://www.cityandstateny.com/politics/2023/07/timeline-closure-rikers-island/376662/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter is joined by Annie Morgan, a Criminal Defense Appeals Attorney with the Guantanamo Bay Military Commission Defense Organization, to continue to the story of Guantanamo Bay where John Baker left off. Once John had the defenders responsible for the al-Nashiri case move off, Annie Morgan and a new team of defenders tried to pick up the pieces. On today's episode, we dive deeper in the war on terror, the legacy of the attack on the USS Cole, and what the never ending torture of al-Nashiri should mean to the every single American whose name it was done in.     Guests: Annie Morgan, Criminal Defense Appeals Attorney, Military Commissions Defense Organization, Guantanamo Bay     Resources: Bombing of the USS Cole https://www.cnn.com/2013/09/18/world/meast/uss-cole-bombing-fast-facts/index.html 1998 Kenyan Embassy Bombings https://www.state.gov/23rd-commemoration-of-the-august-7th-u-s-embassy-bombings/ Clinton Response to Embassy Bombings https://digitalcommons.nyls.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1480&context=journal_of_international_and_comparative_law Carol Rosenberg Writings on GITMO https://www.nytimes.com/by/carol-rosenberg Follow Carol on Twitter https://twitter.com/carolrosenberg?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Follow GITMO Watch on Twitter https://twitter.com/GitmoWatch?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter kicks off this week's theme of Guantanamo Bay coverage by speaking with BGen (Ret) John Baker. When John Baker took over as the lead defense counsel for the Military Commission Defense Organization at Guantanamo Bay, he could not imagine the abuse of power that he would go up against. From FBI informants being planted on the defense team, to classified surveillance of the conversations between defense counsel and client, and the brutal, nearly relentless torture of the detainees, John saw it all. Even with potential confinement looming over his head, John never stopped fighting for the rights of his clients.     Guests: BGen (Ret) John Baker, Chief Public Defender of the Federal District of Western North Carolina     Resources: John Baker Testimony to Senate Judiciary https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Baker%20Testimony2.pdf  Guantánamo hearings halted amid accusations of FBI spying on legal team https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/14/guantanamo-bay-hearing-halted-fbi-spying John Baker Confinement Story https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/03/john-baker-released-guantanamo-dispute-244523 Carol Rosenberg Writings on GITMO https://www.nytimes.com/by/carol-rosenberg Follow Carol on Twitter https://twitter.com/carolrosenberg?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Follow John on Twitter https://twitter.com/jgbaker1806?lang=en Follow GITMO Watch on Twitter https://twitter.com/GitmoWatch?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Baker v Spath https://casetext.com/case/brigadier-gen-john-g-baker-us-marine-corps-v-spath  UN Report on GTMO https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/06/expert-welcomes-historic-visit-united-states-and-guantanamo-detention    More from Nashiri Case https://www.justsecurity.org/63663/al-nashiri-iii-a-no-good-very-bad-day-for-u-s-military-commissions/   https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/9CE6ACFD2F534EA5852583DE004E14D3/$file/18-1279-1783057.pdf     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

With every passing day, a new technology becomes available for police, prosecutors and the state to further side step the Fourth Amendment. On today's show, Hunter sat down with Dhruv Mehrotra, staff writer for Wired Magazine, to discuss the latest horrifying surveillance tech coming to a jurisdiction near you. Covenant Eyes started out as a way for couples and churches to "help" people fight they perceived to be an addiction to porn, but from the very beginning the obvious potential for abuse was on full display. Join Hunter and Dhruv as they unpack the story of how an entire family came under surveillance of the state merely because of an allegation. Guests: Dhruv Mehrotra, Staff Writer, Wired Magazine Resources: Check out all of Dhruv's work here: https://www.wired.com/author/dhruv-mehrotra/ Covenant Eyes writing https://www.wired.com/story/anti-porn-covenant-eyes-bond-revoked/ https://www.wired.com/story/covenant-eyes-anti-porn-accountability-monitoring-apps/   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Continuing this weeks coverage of the family policing system, Hunter was joined by Annick Lenoir-Peek, a North Carolina Deputy Parent Defender. Just like Tuesday's episode with Josh, Annick walks us through the hypocrisy inherent to the family policing system, but Annick also demonstrates a practical way for attorneys at any level to push back. By zealously bringing cases through the appellate system, Annick hopes she can continue to secure major victories for her clients in North Carolina and around the country.     Guests: Annick Lenoir-Peek, North Carolina Deputy Parent Defender     Resources: Jones v Hendrix https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/jones-v-hendrix/ NCIDS.org https://www.ncids.org/ Contact Annick annick.i.lenoir.peek@nccourts.org     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today's episode kicks off these weeks focus on the family welfare system aka the family policing system. Hunter sat down with Josh Michtom, a senior assistant public defender in Juvenile representation. Despite the title, Josh primarily represents parents as the state attempts to take their children away. As with so much of our criminal legal system, the contours of the family policing system in Connecticut cannot be understood without first understanding the many racial, class, and gender based biased baked into it.     Guests: Josh Michtom, Senior Assistant Public Defender in Juvenile representation, Connecticut     Resources: Josh's Article: A Call to Action for Parents' Lawyers in the Family Regulation System: Bearing Witness as Praxis and Practice in the Face of Structural Injustice https://brooklynworks.brooklaw.edu/jlp/vol31/iss2/3/ McKeiver v Pennsylvania https://www.oyez.org/cases/1970/322 Follow Josh on Twitter https://twitter.com/RSGAT     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with Deepak Budwani, the Chief Financial and Administrative Officer of the Santa Barbara Public Defender Office to discuss how he was able to grow the office 80% in just five years. Long time listeners of the show will know the emphasis on data collection and data analysis, and Deepak is the model for why those things are a must for public defense. In just under 90 days, Deepak helped open a new PD office in Idaho, and by taking the mindset from his time in the public sector, Deepak quickly grew that office by 50% in just three years. None of these massive success stories could have been possible if Deepak didn't understand the importance of creating and utilizing systems and processes that could capture the data he needed to make meaningful budget requests!     Guests: Deepak Budwani, Chief Financial and Administrative Officer, Santa Barbara Public Defense Resources: Contact Deepak https://www.linkedin.com/in/deepak-budwani-57827042 DBudwani@countyofsb.org  Santa Barbara Public Defender https://www.countyofsb.org/187/Public-Defender     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with Civil Rights Corps' Attorney Peter Santina to discuss their efforts in uncovering and challenging prosecutorial misconduct. From Alleghany County to San Francisco County, Peter and his team are those leading the charge in revealing the negligence, maleficence, and misconduct of prosecutors around the country. This episode, however, does offer a reminder that all of their actions are enabled by judges, politicians, and legal ethics bodies that sit by and do nothing to hold prosecutors accountable for their actions.     Guests: Peter Santina, Managing Attorney of the Prosecutorial Accountability Project, Civil Rights Corps     Resources: To do something about this, and raise awareness of this continuing racial discrimination, CRC worked with our AccountabilityNY professor partners to prepare and file 10 complaints against prosecutors alleging court findings of racial or religious discrimination. CRC also publicized the fact that an attorney for the NYPD union had once been a prosecutor who used a handwritten guide of racist and sexist tropes to select juries, leading to three reversals. Journalists at the Gothamist, The City, Queens Daily Eagle, and Davis Vanguard each wrote original stories about the discrimination complaints. CRC attorney Bina Ahmad appeared on WBAI radio and WNYC radio with Dexter Murray, a man personally victimized by this form of discrimination. Mr. Murray's powerful op-ed ran in the NY Daily News.     In San Francisco, nearly 1,000 people are past their last day for speedy trial, over 100 of whom are incarcerated, awaiting an unknown trial date. In a particular pending case, the San Francisco Public Defender's Office asked the California Supreme Court to intervene and restore people's speedy trial rights. In support of this petition, CRC filed an amicus brief to explain to the justices how the denial of speedy trial rights turns an already-flawed system of plea bargaining into a system of plea begging and unfairly extends the already-oppressive conditions of pretrial detention. CRC await the California Supreme Court's decision.     The prosecutor's choice to pursue or dismiss charges is one of their greatest powers and is ripe for abuse. As over 90 percent of criminal cases resolve by plea bargain, recent reports have exposed the troubling lack of transparency and oversight in this plea bargain system (2020 Vera Institute Report) and that innocent people plead guilty to crimes they did not commit (2023 American Bar Association Task Force Report).     In March 2023, the longtime Allegheny County District Attorney, Stephen Zappala, was in a contentious primary battle for reelection against the Chief Public Defender, who was also running for District Attorney. It was reported that after Zappala did not secure the Democratic Committee's nomination, a supervisor in his office gave line prosecutors instructions that referenced the election. In the following days, two prosecutors were reported to refused to dismiss weak charges, and each prosecutor cited the election—and Zappala's endorsement loss—in their explanation. CRC worked with two legendary professors, David Rudovsky (Penn Carey School of Law) and Jules Lobel (University of Pittsburgh School of Law), to prepare and file an ethics complaint with the Disciplinary Board of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania against Zappala. We included a 2021 incident where Zappala ordered his prosecutors to not offer any plea bargain to clients of a Black defense attorney who had criticized his office. A journalist at the PGH City Paper wrote about the complaint, interviewing Peter.     Civil Rights Corps https://civilrightscorps.org/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

On previous episodes, we have talked about the importance of data collection and collaboration with outside organizations to turn that data into meaningful talking points for policy change. On today's show, Hunter was joined by three amazing data scientists from SMU's Deason Center, Dr. Andrew Davies, Dr. Victoria Smiegocki, and Shelby Sirivore, to discuss some of their interesting data analysis on Public Defense in Texas. From appointment rates to the impacts of having a institutional public defense, today's guests offer us a glimpse into the insights every state could glean if it only collected the data necessary for people like Andy, Victoria, and Shelby the chance to analyze it.   Guests: Dr. Andrew Davies, Research Director, SMU Deason Criminal Justice Reform Center Dr. Victoria Smiegocki, Assistant Research Director, SMU Deason Criminal Justice Reform Center Shelby Sirivore, Research Project Coordinator   Resources: SMU Deason Center https://www.smu.edu/Law/Centers-and-Initiatives/Deason-Center Texas Eligibility Standards https://scholar.smu.edu/deasoncenter/8/ Rural Representation in Texas https://digitalcommons.mainelaw.maine.edu/mlr/vol71/iss2/5/ Qualities of Public Defender Leader https://smu.box.com/s/x0gjpz6py3wwcvlcdcxc8omnma55n7bd     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

On today's show, Hunter sat down with Cameron Blazer, the Circuit Public Defender in Charleston, South Carolina, to discuss the past, present, and future of Public Defense in the state. From the start of the show, Hunter has long wanted to discuss with more detail the South Carolina practice of non-attorneys serving as judges, but there is so much more to this episode than that. In an unusual turn of events, South Carolina has actually started to increase the funding for Public Defense, and in turn, people like Cameron are seizing the opportunity to make meaningful changes to both their practice and the lives of their clients.   Guests: Cameron Blazer, Circuit Public Defender, 9th Circuit, South Carolina     Resources: "When Your Judge Isn't a Lawyer" https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/02/when-your-judge-isnt-a-lawyer/515568 "Lawsuit Challenges Rural Judges without Law Degrees Instructed to Oversee Jury Trials." http://www.fernleyreporter.com/lawsuit-challenges-rural-judges-without-law-degrees-instructed-to-oversee-jury-trials "Rush To Judgement: How South Carolina's Summary Courts Fail to Protect Constitutional Rights". https://www.nacdl.org/getattachment/ab9d6b03-2b45-4235-890e-235461a9bb2d/rush-to-judgment-how-south-carolina-s-summary-courts-fail-to-protect-constitutional-rights.pdf "Summary Injustice: A Look at Constitutional Deficiencies in South Carolina's Summary Courts" https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/media/publications/Summary%20Injustice%20-%20A%20look%20at%20Constitutional%20Deficiencies%20in%20SC%20Summary%20Courts%2C%20ACLU%2C%202016.pdf "These Judges Can Have Less Training Than Barbers but Still Decide Thousands of Cases Each Year."  https://www.propublica.org/article/these-judges-can-have-less-training-than-barbers-but-still-decide-thousands-of-cases-each-year After More Than Five Years of Litigation, Lexington County, S.C., Agrees to Dramatically Increase Funding for Indigent Defense https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/after-more-five-years-litigation-lexington-county-sc-agrees-dramatically-increase South Carolina Public Defender Commission https://sccid.sc.gov/ Follow Cameron on Twitter https://twitter.com/cameronblazer?lang=en       Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

It's no secret that the Public Defenseless Podcast firmly stands in the "abolish cash bail" camp. On today's episode, Hunter is joined by criminal defense attorney, Katie Yens, to demonstrate yet another reason why the practice must cease to exist. Despite, perhaps, good intentions of judges and prosecutors, the bond laws in Colorado allow for the bail bond industry to enrich themselves off the backs of those that can least afford it. Today's conversation is all about this obscure, but deeply influential practice of bond forfeiture and revocation.     Guests: Katie Yens, Criminal Defense Attorney, LFM Defense     Resources: Email Katie Katie@lfmdefense.com     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

A little over a year ago, Hunter spoke with Rocky Ramirez about how a simple bit of no-code programming was able to cut down appointment times from nearly a week to less than half a day. Today, Hunter invited Rocky back on the show to discuss the steps he's taken over the past year in Bexar County to find tech solutions for the many issues with Public Defense. While the Managed Assigned Counsel system he operates in is unique, the theme of this episode applies equally to all practitioners of public defense: it is imperative that Public Defenders analyse what policies, procedures, and practices could be made more efficient with simple tech solutions!     Guests: Rocky Ramirez, Law and Technology Resource Attorney, Bexar County, Texas   Resources:   Email Rocky: rocky.ramirez@bexar.org     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with Randy Fiedler and Stacy Newman about the best ways to handle a challenging client. Whether it is due to mental illness, mistrust, or some other external factor, every public defender has at one point in time dealt with a client they would consider challenging. The question is then, what are the skills and best practices to foster the trusting relationship that is necessary to combat the challenges any client may present.   Guests: Randy Fiedler, Public Defender, Nevada Stacy Newman, Public Defender, Nevada Resources: McCoy v Louisiana https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/17pdf/16-8255_i4ek.pdf Autonomy Isn't Everything https://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2770&context=facpub ABA standards on Mental Health https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/publications/criminal_justice_standards/mental_health_standards_2016.authcheckdam.pdf     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with Patrick Crowley, Michael Naughton and Jonathan Sacks to talk through the attorney shortage crisis in rural America and what we can do to reverse the trend. While today's episode focuses a lot on what is happening in rural Michigan, make no mistake, this is a problem facing nearly every state in the country. As rural, small town America has declined over the past decades, it has become harder and harder to entice young public defenders, laden with outrageous student debt, to want to practice in the rural parts of a state. So what can be done? With this conversation, Hunter hopes to spark new conversations and solutions to a problem that is seemingly only getting worse as the years go by.     Guests: Patrick Crowley, Chief Public Defender, Marquette County, Michigan Michael Naughton, Attorney and Partner, North Coast Legal, PLC. Jonathan Sacks, Director, Michigan State Appellate Defender Office   Resources: Michael's Report on the Issue https://michiganidc.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/M.-Naughton-Report-Attorney-Shortages.pdf SADO.org https://sado.org/ MIDC https://michiganidc.gov/ Marquette County Public Defender https://mqtpubdef.org/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with Chris "Champ" Napier. When Champ was only four years old when he witnessed his father's murder. By the time he was thirteen, Napier had lived in seven different homes in seven different ghettos. Biologically and socially, he was raised in a pool of piranhas, barbarians, and sharks. At eighteen, Napier was convicted of killing a man and was sent to prison. This memoir narrates Napier's story as he navigates a childhood of poverty in Prichard, Alabama; serves more than a decade and a half in prison; and transforms his life by becoming Muslim and devoting his life to Allah. We were so broke I had to eat dry saltine crackers or ketchup sandwiches with the end parts of the bread and drink sugar water, when we didn't have kool-aid. These times were hard for us. I can recall a lot of times on the weekend that someone from the club or from somewhere would burglarize our house and we would have to play like we were asleep until they left. The only thing they could not steal was a small black and white TV and portable radio.   Guests: Champ Napier, Client Advocate, Mobile, Alabama   Resources: Champ Napier Story https://alabamafairjustice.org/stories-chris-champ-napier Champ Napier Book https://www.amazon.com/Poverty-Prison-Frustrations-My-Past/dp/1542983398 Champ's Website https://chrischampnapier.com/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with Latosha Watts and Taneal Behrens to highlight the important role that paralegals and social workers play in a Public Defender Office. To date, we have touched a lot on the need for Public Defender Offices to incorporate more social workers, but we have not had the opportunity to talk about the important role paralegals provide an office. With more than 2 decades of experience between them in the role of paralegal, Latosha and Taneal provided excellent insight on the pathway for public defense to value paralegals and social workers just as much as they value attorneys.     Guests: Latosha Watts, Paralegal, Chesapeake Public Defender Office, Virginia Taneal Behrens, Sentencing Specialist, Charleston Public Defender Office, South Carolina     Resources: Email Latosha lwatts@vadefenders.org Email Taneal tbehrens@charlestoncounty.org     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with two law professors, Kay Levine and Russell Gold, to discuss their law review article calling for an increase in the public advocacy of public defenders. As a natural extension of the main goals of the show, Hunter loved exploring the potential political power public defenders could wield if they were more vocal. Interestingly as well, both Kay and Russell offered important juxtapositions between public defenders, prosecutors, and corporate attorneys and the way each engages with public advocacy out of the court room.     Guests: Kay Levine, Professor of Law, Emory Law School Russell Gold, Professor of Law, Alabama University School of Law   Resources: Public Voice of the Defender Law Review Article https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4416723  Kay's Article on the FL Prosecutors https://news.bloomberglaw.com/white-collar-and-criminal-law/discriminatory-policy-pinned-on-wall-should-shock-all-prosecutors Kay's Professor Page https://law.emory.edu/faculty/faculty-profiles/levine-profile.html Russell Gold Professor Page https://www.law.ua.edu/directory/People/view/Russell_Gold     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, Hunter spoke with Law Professor Corinna Lain to discuss her career of research around the death penalty and lethal injection. While it may seem strange to hyper focus on lethal injection, there is something to be said about understanding how and why lethal injection became the defacto method for state sanctioned murder. When lethal injection was offered to the American people, it was designed to do one simple thing: hide the reality of state sponsored murder. So long as people could look away from the violence of the state, they could place execution out of mind. In doing so, the practice could continue in relative secrecy. Today's episode is about lifting the shroud on that secrecy to examine the way the lethal injection is just as, if not more, violent, cruel, and unusual and any other form of execution.     Guests: Corrina Lain, SD Roberts and Sandra Moore Professor of Law, Richmond School of Law Resources: Can Europe end the Death Penalty? https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/02/can-europe-end-the-death-penalty-in-america/283790/ US Botched Executions https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions/botched-executions Execution of Clayton Lockett https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/13/botched-oklahoma-execution-clayton-lockett-bloody-mess  Corinna Lain Faculty Page https://law.richmond.edu/faculty/clain/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Last year, Hunter spoke with Oregon Public Defender Chris O'Connor to discuss the public defender crisis in Oregon, and today, Hunter once again returns to Oregon to see what has changed. Joining Hunter to discuss the issue is Eve Costello, a contract PD in Klamath Falls, and Lee Wachocki, a PD in Multnomah County. Each of these attorneys bring with them an insight into the many ways that Public Defense is failing in Oregon from the urban center of Portland to the rural areas of Klamath Falls. While there are no easy solutions to the issues, it may be time for the state to seriously consider moving to a structure that enables the defense bar to act in a unified manner.       Guests: Lee Wachocki, Public Defender, Multnomah County Eve Costello, Contract Public Defender, Klamath Falls     Resources: Multnomah County Public Defender https://mpdlaw.com/ Sixth Amendment Center Report https://sixthamendment.org/know-your-state/oregon/ Vice Investigative Reporting on Public Defender Crisis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-ENDjlvgLs 'No sense of justice': Hundreds cycling through Oregon courts without public defenders http://%20https/www.oregonlive.com/crime/2022/09/no-sense-of-justice-1300-criminal-cases-in-limbo-as-oregons-public-defender-shortage-mounts.html Firing of Stephen Singer https://oregoncapitalchronicle.com/2022/08/18/board-fires-head-of-oregons-public-defense-agency/ Oregon Public Defense Law Suit https://www.opb.org/article/2022/05/16/lawsuit-oregon-failing-to-provide-attorneys-to-people-charged-with-crimes/ ABA Report on Oregon Public Defense https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2022/01/aba-sclaid-finds-lack-of-resources-in-its-study-of-oregon-s-publ/ Oregon public defender asks court to withdraw overworked attorneys, dismiss cases https://www.opb.org/article/2023/03/16/public-defense-oregon-attorneys-dismiss-cases/   Oregon's public defender crisis impacts Jackson County https://www.opb.org/article/2023/05/01/oregons-public-defender-crisis-impacts-jackson-county/  Attorney Shortage in Rural America https://www.nhbr.com/lack-of-rural-lawyers-leaves-much-of-america-without-support/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

On previous episodes, Hunter spoke with Chris Fabricant and Daniel Medwed to discuss various aspects of the innocence movement. With Chris, they discussed the type of junk science that contributes to wrongful convictions. With Daniel, the discussed the unnecessary legal processes and hurdles that stand in the way of getting people out of prison once they are there. Today, Hunter sat down with another lawyer, author, and leader in the innocence movement, Justin Brooks, to discuss the many other things that contribute to sending people wrongfully to prison. As the founder and director of the California Innocence Project, Justin has seen it all, and today, he is here to share his experiences with you so you can understand how you might go to prison even though you're innocent.     Guests: Justin Brooks, Founder and Director of the California Innocence Project     Resources: Buy Justin's Book https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520386839/you-might-go-to-prison-even-though-youre-innocent John Stoll's Case https://californiainnocenceproject.org/read-their-stories/john-stoll/ California Innocence Project https://californiainnocenceproject.org/   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

Today, we return to once again to the state of Alabama to speak with Stacey Fuller and Kathleen Henderson. If you will recall, Stacey joined Hunter in his conversation with Leah Nelson to discuss the fines and fees that keep Alabamans from accessing a meaningful second chance. At the end of that episode, Stacey mentioned the Felony ID card the state required her always have on her. That conversation plays directly into this one as we examine the other onerous conditions the state of Alabama places on those returning from incarceration. Join Hunter, Kathleen, and Stacey as we wade through the minefield that the formerly incarcerated must navigate to avoid returning to jail.   Guests: Stacey Fuller, Community Outreach Coordinator, Tennessee Kathleen Henderson, Re-Entry Case Manager, Alabama Apple Seed   Resources: Alabama Appleseed https://alabamaappleseed.org/ Alabama Driver's License Bill https://www.al.com/news/2023/05/lawmakers-pass-bill-to-limit-drivers-license-suspensions-for-unpaid-fees.html Alabama Prison Funding https://alabamareflector.com/2023/05/02/alabama-crime-victims-compensation-commission-gets-less-than-it-sought-in-general-fund/ https://www.al.com/news/2023/03/alabama-governor-wants-100-million-of-school-funds-for-prison-construction.html https://www.al.com/news/2023/03/alabamas-billion-dollar-no-bid-prison-disaster-is-only-the-beginning.html   Alabama Trial Penalty https://www.al.com/news/2023/04/whitmire-alabama-lawmakers-trial-tax-bill-will-cost-us.html Alabama Inmate Frozen to Death https://www.cbs42.com/regional/after-release-of-video-lawsuit-claims-alabama-man-froze-to-death-in-police-custody-was-likely-placed-in-jail-freezer/   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

On last week's show, Hunter spoke with Babatunde Aremu and demonstrated the ways in which a Public Defender Office could be unionized without causing strife between leadership and line public defenders. Unfortunately today's episode demonstrates the worst possible scenario for a unionization effort. Hunter sat down with Cat Vining and Morgan King, line public defenders in the Louisville Metro Public Defender Office, to discuss why they unionized and the incredible efforts that leadership took to make sure the union would be crushed. Unlike the rest of the state, Louisville Public Defense historically existed outside of the control of the Depart of Public Advocacy, but when the office decided to unionize, the powers that be stepped in to make a change. Despite the Governor vetoing the bill that would bring the office into the state system (while also calling out the legislation as retribution), the Louisville Metro Public Defender Office now sits on the precipice of a quick, ill planned ascension into the state system. So what comes next for those who rely on the services of the Louisville Metro Public Defender?       Guest: Cat Vining, Line Public Defender, Louisville Metro Public Defender Morgan King, Line Public Defender, Louisville Metro Public Defender   Resources Folder containing internal emails and other correspondence from Louisville Metro Public Defender Office https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1X8zNcYWtWHMxia1OW1fIEct3LlTI0cQb?usp=sharing Brief overview of what the Kentucky Supreme Court said, as well as a link to the opinion by the Kentucky Supreme Court as well https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/kentucky-high-court-tosses-challenge-to-state-lawyers-unionizing  Article about HB 568 --> https://www.wdrb.com/news/louisville-public-defenders-concerned-about-state-legislation-that-would-change-how-they-get-funding/article_93e36c90-ba37-11ed-8dc9-a773424b6481.html Gov. Beshear Veto --> https://www.wdrb.com/news/politics/gov-beshear-vetoes-bill-related-to-louisville-public-defenders-office-merging-with-state/article_bb4d6d5e-caad-11ed-b0e0-dbef141919b1.html Leo Smith's Campaign Contributions --> https://secure.kentucky.gov/kref/publicsearch/AllContributors?FirstName=Leo&LastName=Smith&FromOrganizationName=&ElectionDate=01%2F01%2F0001&City=&State=&Zip=&Employer=&Occupation=&OtherOccupation=&MinAmount=&MaxAmount=&MinimalDate=&MaximalDate=&ContributionMode=&ContributionSearchType=All&PageSize=10&PageIndex=0&ReportId= - this link hopefully goes straight to Leo Smith's campaign donations, but if not, that website is https://secure.kentucky.gov/kref/publicsearch/AllContributors and you can search Leo Smith's name to see his contribution to James Nemes in 2022, the same state Represenative who filed HB 568 merging our office into the state agency   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod  www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on Pay Pal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=FC6UYEFLAMBTE Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/cN26pR5IbaFY9I46oo

On today's bonus show, Hunter provides updates on the plans for the show and what he learned from his internship at the Aurora Municipal Public Defender Office.   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on Pay Pal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=FC6UYEFLAMBTE Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/cN26pR5IbaFY9I46oo

Today, Hunter spoke with Jill Weinberg, Assistant Professor of Sociology at Tufts University, to discuss the difficulties and strategies of discussing BDSM and other alternative sexual practices in the court room. For many, 50 Shades of Grey is the only exposure to alternative sexual practices so how should lawyers prepare juries, judges, and even themselves for when their case revolves around one of these topics? From the complexities of consent in BDSM relationships to navigating polyamorous relationships, today's episode is all about the ways attorneys need to confront the biases people hold about alternative sexual practices.     Guest: Jill Weinberg, Assistant Professor of Sociology, Tufts University     Resources Professor Jill Weinberg's Faculty Page https://as.tufts.edu/sociology/people/faculty/jill-weinberg Professor Jill Weinberg's Book https://www.amazon.com/Books-Jill-D-Weinberg-Ph-JD/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3AJill+D.+Weinberg+Ph.D++JD     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

When most in the Public Defender world think about the Bronx Defenders, they think of an office at the forefront of imagining a new path forward for Public Defense. Despite this, the Bronx Defenders sat as outlier amongst the New York City Public Defender Offices as one of the last who were not unionized. Today, Hunter spoke with Babatunde Aremu, President of the new Bronx Defenders Union, to discuss the interesting history of the office's relationship with unions, his work as a civil public defender, and the example other offices can learn from the leadership at the Bronx Defenders willingness to accept the unionization without a fight.   Guest: Babatunde Aremu, Union President and Civil Action Attorney, Bronx Defender   Resources Contact the Bronx Defender Union BXDunion@gmail.com Bronx Defenders www.bronxdefenders.org   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Today, Hunter sat down with Mary Ann Scali (Executive Director, Gault Center) and HyeJi (Senior Youth Defense Counsel, Gault Center), to discuss the legacy of the Supreme Court Case in re Gault and how it impacts youth representation today. Much like the episode with Justine Olderman and Wes Caines on the legacy of Gideon, today's episode is a reflection on America's history of neglecting the rights of children, what in re Gault meant for youth access to counsel, and how the court maybe did not go as far as it could have with that case. Most importantly, this episode is meant to serve as a reminder that Public Defense cannot continue to overlook the importance of youth representation. Around the country, youth representation is still viewed as the minor leagues of Public Defense, and it is time for the entire profession to move to practices the understand the importance of having specialized youth defenders who are resourced and staffed to attack a case with the same vigour as their offices dedicate to serious adult felonies.     Guest: Mary Ann Scali, Executive Director, Gault Center HyeJi Kim, Senior Youth Defense Counsel, Gault Center   Resources in re Gault Case https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/387/1/ in re Gault on 5-4 Podcast https://open.spotify.com/episode/5XZDGyhLn6pZzS8YkC5N7O Gault Center https://www.defendyouthrights.org/ Follow Gault Center on Twitter https://twitter.com/GaultCenter?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Roper v Simmons https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/03-633.ZS.html Haley v Ohio https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/332/596 J.D.B v North Carolina https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/564/261/ Access Denied http://defendyouthrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Access-Denied.pdf Defend Children http://defendyouthrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Defend-Children-A-Blueprint-for-Effective-Juvenile-Defender-Services-FINAL.pdf Juvenile Records Bill in Louisiana https://www.theroot.com/louisiana-house-passes-bill-outing-juvenile-records-in-1850442089 HyeJi in Teen Vouge https://www.teenvogue.com/story/juvenile-justice-united-states-courts       Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Jane Fox (Legal Aid Society New York) and Kyle Morris (Nashville Public Defender Office) to discuss all things student debt forgiveness. Last time they were on the show, Jane and Kyle walked Hunter through the complicated landscape of Public Service Loan Forgiveness, President Biden's student loan forgiveness plan, and several other topics of interest. Since that interview, student debt forgiveness has become a even more pressing issue of conversation as the deadline for student debt payments getting turned back on looms large. Join Hunter, Jane, and Kyle as they breakdown the implications for public defense and other career fields as they grapple with the implications of the future of student debt.     Guest: Jane Fox, Public Defender and Chapter Chair, Legal Aid Society, New York City Kyle Morris, Felony Public Defender, Nashville Public Defender     Resources Student Aid .gov https://studentaid.gov/ Student Borrower Protection Center https://protectborrowers.org/ Cancel My Student Debt. Org https://www.cancelmystudentdebt.org/ Legal Aid Society https://legalaidnyc.org/ Nashville Defenders https://publicdefender.nashville.gov/ Contact Kyle KyleMMorris@jisnashville.gov Contact Jane jfox@legal-aid.org Follow Jane on Twitter https://twitter.com/Foxsquire Follow Kyle on Twitter https://twitter.com/Kyle_Morris     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Today, Hunter spoke with Elbert Aull, a Public Defender from King County Washington and chairman of the Public Defender Union's Political Action Committee to discuss the vital role the union played in bringing attention to the horrid conditions of jails in King County. As with many of our unionization episodes, this episode highlights the type of political and media engagement that are not normally available to Public Defenders, whether they be non-unionized or contract. Most importantly, Elbert's work on the Political Action Committee demonstrates the potential for Public Defenders to become trusted members of the labor force and how they can leverage that trust to shape criminal legal discourse across a politically diverse state like Washington.     Guest: Elbert Aull, Public Defender, King County, Washington   Resources PAC comments on the jail crisis https://www.kuow.org/stories/king-county-public-defenders-corrections-officers-see-eye-to-eye-on-covid-crisis-in-jails   https://www.thestranger.com/news/2022/09/08/78447742/how-can-we-fix-the-king-county-jail-crisis   https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/king-county-jails-consider-releasing-non-violent-suspects-due-to-staffing-shortages-inhumane-conditions   https://www.thestranger.com/news/2023/04/05/78935744/king-county-commits-millions-to-make-jail-slightly-less-crowded ACLU Lawsuit that lead to restricting of Public Defense https://sixthamendment.org/independence-threatened-as-public-defenders-strive-for-parity-in-king-county-washington/  Email Elbert elbertaulliv@gmail.com   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Across the country, a movement of so called progressive prosecutors has become a focal point of political commentary around the criminal legal system. Today, Hunter spoke with three Chief Public Defenders, Mano Raju, Keisha Hudson, and Ricardo Garcia to discuss their observations and perspectives dealing with these progressive prosecutors. For each of the guests and Hunter, there is a universal agreement that this movement is directionally a massive improvement over old school tough on crime prosecutors, but we also acknowledge there are severe limitations on what they can do. From the recall of Chesa Boudin to the massive pushback against Larry Krasner and George Gascon, the politics of crime make it challenging for this DAs to reach all of their lofty promises.     Guest: Keisha Hudson, Chief Public Defender, Defenders of Association of Philadelphia Ricardo Garcia, Chief Public Defender, Los Angeles Mano Raju, Chief Public Defender, San Francisco     Resources Defenders Association of Philadelphia https://phillydefenders.org/home/ Follow Philly Defenders https://twitter.com/phillydefenders/ Follow Philly Defenders on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/phillydefenders/ LA County Public Defender https://pubdef.lacounty.gov/ Follow LA Public Defender on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lapubdef/ SF Public Defender https://sfpublicdefender.org/ SF Public Defender on Twitter https://twitter.com/sfdefender Pamela Price https://abc7news.com/alameda-county-district-attorney-pamela-price-jasper-wu-delonzo-logwood/13100531/ Larry Krasner https://www.inquirer.com/news/da-larry-krasner-record-convictions-cases-guns-homicides-20221121.html#:~:text=In%20a%20statement%20attacking%20what,shootings%20and%2079%25%20for%20nonfatal.     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Today, Hunter spoke with James McDermott and Paul Chambers, two Public Defenders from the Far West Texas Office, to discuss their vision for a better model for Public Defense Delivery. According to the ABA and basically every Public Defender organization, vertical representation is what all offices should strive for. Under this model, attorneys handle every aspect of the case from first appearance to disposition, but is this really the best model available? In their office, James and Paul have moved towards something they refer to as "ensemble representation". With more of a flat power dynamic, their model deemphasizes the role of the attorney in an effort to truly put the client at the center of the representation.   Guest: James McDermott, Chief Public Defender, Far West Texas Public Defense Paul Chambers, Deputy Chief Public Defender, Far West Texas Public Defense   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Today, Hunter sat down with Alexandra Pray, Deputy Public Defender in San Francisco and Board Member of the Public Defender Union, to discuss the unique arrangement the City Attorneys, Prosecutors, and Public Defenders have in SF. When we've discussed Public Defense Unions, we ordinarily hear about coalitions of Public Defenders and sometimes all staff members coming together to advocate for better conditions, better workloads, and better pay, but in San Francisco, Public Defenders have a strange ally in the fight for better working conditions. In what may better be described as a collective bargaining agreement, the City Attorneys, Prosecutors, and Public Defenders work together to negotiate better pay and working conditions. How are they able to put aside radical differences in viewpoints around the criminal legal system to find solidarity? Tune in to listen to Alexandra explain how this unique arrangement works.     Guest: Alexandra Pray, Deputy Public Defender, San Francisco     Resources:   Adachi Project https://www.adachiproject.com/ SF Standard https://sfstandard.com/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Today, Hunter spoke with Diego Alcala, a criminal defense attorney in Puerto Rico, to better understand the challenges the island faces in the criminal legal system. From years of experience as a criminal defense attorney in Puerto Rico and other parts of the United States, Diego cuts through the complicated legal layers to get at a core issue plaguing Puerto Rico: For more than a century, the island has been subjected to the whims of the United States, and the lack of self-determination, access to health care, and continued imposition of the United States' will serves as a severe determent to the flourishing of Puerto Ricans.   Guest: Diego Alcala, Criminal Defense Attorney, Puerto Rico   Resources: Follow Diego on Twitter https://twitter.com/DiegoAlcalaPR Connect with Diego on Linked In https://pr.linkedin.com/in/diegoalcala See Diego's Work on his website www.Abolicinonista.com Learn More About Puerto Rico and the Insular Cases https://www.fivefourpod.com/episodes/united-states-v-vaello-madero/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9wyx_dqzAg https://shows.acast.com/fivefourpod/episodes/the-insular-cases-teaser         Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

"Well I grew up poor and I didn't go off committing crimes!" Arguably, this is the most common response those that work in the field of mitigation hear when they are trying to explain what mitigation is. To tackle this question and discuss take another look at the importance of non-capital mitigation, Hunter spoke with Victoria Rusk. She is a mitigation expert, author, and founder of Mitigation University and Heart of Justice, and on today's episode, Victoria and Hunter take another deep dive at trying to understand the best way to confront the biases that jurors, judges, prosecutors, and yes, public defenders, have during a criminal trial. In confronting these biases, there is hope that a mitigation specialist can connect the various stakeholders in the legal system with the humanity of the defendants in each case.   Guest: Victoria Rusk, Founder of Mitigation University and Heart of Justice     Resources: Follow Victoria on Linked In https://www.linkedin.com/in/victoria-rusk-a4695292?trk=public_post_feed-actor-name Heart of Justice https://www.heartofjustice.org/ Mitigation University https://mitigationuniversity.com/ "The French" Tweet https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/chrisobrien/2023/01/27/ap-apologizes-for-the-french-tweet-that-triggered-viral-backlash/amp/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

If you spend anytime watching news in the past 3 years, you have likely heard about San Francisco. Normally, that conversation revolves around the state of public safety in the city, and often, it is presented from the perspective of progressive prosecution. Today, Hunter had on Mano Raju, Chief Public Defender of the San Francisco, to give a different perspective on the path forward for public safety in the city. As an elected official, Mano is uniquely situated to speak with community leaders and organizers to explain why a reversion to the tough on crime era is not best for the public safety of San Francisco.   Guest: Mano Raju, Chief Public Defender, San Francisco   Resources: Follow Mano on Twitter https://twitter.com/ManoRajuPD?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Follow SF Defenders on Twitter https://twitter.com/sfdefender SF Defender Website https://sfpublicdefender.org/ Follow SF Defenders on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sfpublicdefender/?hl=en Adachi Project https://www.adachiproject.com/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

For more than one-third of a Americans, there is a record of their interaction with the criminal legal system. These records and the bureaucracy that controls them help make up a powerful paper prison that stops millions from ever accessing a meaningful second chance. Today, Hunter spoke with Professor Colleen Chien and Alyssa Aguilar about the Paper Prison Initiative to understand the problem. In some cases, people simply do not know how to access their second chance. In others, there are intentionally complicated barriers designed to get as many people as possible not to access their second chance. Whatever the reason may be, Colleen and Alyssa are dedicated to dismantling the impacts of these invisible but powerful Paper Prisons.     Guest: Colleen Chien, Professor of Law, University of Santa Clara Law School, Founder, Paper Prison Initiative Alyssa Aguilar, Juris Doctor Candidate 2023, University of Santa Clara Law School     Resources: Professor Colleen Chien Faculty Page https://law.scu.edu/faculty/profile/chien-colleen/ Paper Prison Initiative https://paperprisons.org/ Follow Paper Prisons Project on Twitter https://twitter.com/paperprisons?lang=en Follow Alyssa on Twitter https://twitter.com/AlyssaLAguilar Follow Colleen on Twitter https://twitter.com/colleen_chien         Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Today, Hunter spoke with David Siegel, Professor of Law and Director of the Center for Law and Social Responsibility at New England Law, to discuss the ethical and social obligations of attorneys. Specifically, Hunter and David unpack the ways in which law schools are failing to educate and equip future lawyers with an understanding of a practical understanding of the law. Law school does a wonderful job of teaching students the theory of the law, but in failing to show the ways the theory falls short of the practice of law, students can graduate without an understanding of the realities in which the legal system abuses poor people and their public defenders. While it is not an easy task, hopefully this conversation will spark a deeper reflection on the many ways in which law school can be overhauled to create more ethical and socially responsible lawyers.       Guest: David Siegel, Professor of Law and Director of the Center for Law and Social Responsibility at New England Law   Resources: David Siegel Faculty Page https://www.nesl.edu/academics-faculty/faculty/profile/siegel-david   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Today, Hunter spoke with Felicia Tempel, Senior Investigator in the Barron County, Wisconsin Public Defender Office. As with all of the episodes covering a smaller Public Defender Offices, today's show is all about understanding the challenges that similarly cash and personnel regions of the country face in trying to create vibrant Public Defense Offices. If you will recall my episode on the lawsuit facing the state of Wisconsin, rural Wisconsin is struggling to get enough resources for contract counsel. As such, there are understandable short falls for the institutional Public Defender Offices as the state seeks to deal with one problem at a time. For the people who the office represent though? Waiting for more resources to come in might not be an option.     Guest:  Felicia Tempel, Senior Investigator, Barron County, Wisconsin   Resources: Barron County Wisconsin PD Office https://howtojustice.org/resources-services/barron-county-public-defenders-office-wi/   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Today, Hunter sat down with Lindsay Bendell, LCSW Forensic Social Worker & Mitigation Specialist, to discuss the importance of non-capital mitigation. The concept of mitigation is a commonly known part of capital cases. In practice, mitigation are often some of the most important factors in getting someone a sentence of life over death. With that said, mitigation is almost unheard of in non-capital cases. Lindsay is hoping to change that. On today's episode, Hunter and Lindsay talked about the ins and outs of non-capital mitigation, why it is so essential to injecting empathy into the legal system, and why it isn't "making excuses" for bad behavior.     Guest: Lindsay Bendell, LCSW Forensic Social Worker & Mitigation Specialist Resources: Follow Lindsay on Twitter: https://twitter.com/lbendell_lcsw?lang=en Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truecrimesocialworker/ Community Justice Services https://www.communityjusticeservices.com/   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Last week, Hunter spoke with LA County Chief Public Defender Ricardo Garcia to discuss the state of Public Defense in LA. Today, Hunter sat down with two Public Defenders, Garret Miller and Brooke Languevan, to get the LA Public Defenders Union perspective on the same question. While the two sides may not always agree on the best way to address the issues plaguing the offices, they both recognize the pressing need for more people, more funding, and a dramatic reimagining of the role Public Defense can and should play in community engagement. After listening to both episodes, what do you think is the best solution to cure the many ills of LA County Public Defense?     Guest: Garret Miller, Public Defender, Los Angeles County, California Brooke Longuevan, Public Defender, Los Angeles County, California     Resources: Follow LA Public Defender Union on Twitter https://twitter.com/LApubdefunion?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Follow the LA Public Defender Union on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lapubdefunion/?hl=en LA Public Defender Union Website https://local148.org/ Justice LA https://justicelanow.org/ ACLU Socal https://www.aclusocal.org/ L.A. County shifts lawyer program for the poor from Bar Assn. to already busy public defender https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-01-09/la-me-la-county-shifts-attorney-program-to-public-defender   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

In theory, the criminal legal system is designed to find the truth of a matter. In reality, the legal system has been sometimes intentionally and sometimes unintentionally constructed to be as efficient as possible while maintaining its institutional integrity. From plea deals to Executive Clemency, the legal system is often cruelly efficient at convicting the innocent and keeping the innocent looked in prison for decades. Why is that?     Today, Hunter sat down with Professor of Law, Daniel Medwed, to discuss his book Barred: Why the Innocent Can't Get Out of Prison to answer that question. At every step of the legal system, there are policies, procedures, and legal doctrines that work in concert to keep the innocent locked up as long as possible. Join us for a fascinating and frustrating examination of the legal machine that is so regularly disinterested in finding the truth and freeing the innocent. Guest: Daniel Medwed, Professor of Law, Northeastern University School of Law Resources: Buy Barred https://www.basicbooks.com/titles/daniel-s-medwed/barred/9781541675902/ Follow Daniel Medwed on Twitter https://twitter.com/danielmedwed?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Arizona v Youngblood https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/488/51/ West Virginia Law Review Article on Arizona v Youngblood The Youngblood Success Stories: Overcoming the "Bad Faith" Destruction of Evidence Standard (wvu.edu)   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

More than 100 years ago, the first Public Defender Office opened in LA County thanks to the dedication and hard work of Clara Foltz. From that point on, the office grew into the largest office in the country. Today's guest, Ricardo Garcia, is the current Chief Public Defender of the Office and responsible for figuring out how to unlock the potential of the office. On top of the massive geographic and population challenges of providing Public Defense to LA County, Ricardo must also battle with the well organized and funded police and prosecutorial machine in LA County and California writ large. To fully unlock the potential power of the office, Ricardo hopes empowered supervisors will be able to better engage with the media and local communities. In doing so, Ricardo hopes the community will then apply the pressure necessary to force political change.     Guest: Ricardo Garcia, Chief Public Defender, Los Angeles County California     Resource LA County Public Defender https://pubdef.lacounty.gov/ LA County Public Defender Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lapubdef/ LA County Public Defender Facebook https://www.facebook.com/LACOUNTYPD/   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Far too often, the injustices of our legal system go without media attention. This is exceptionally true when it comes to media coverage of the failings of Public Defense. Thankfully, there are a few intrepid investigative reports trying to bring to light the Public Defender Crisis. Today, I spoke with Emily Hamer, Investigative Reporter for Lee Enterprises' Pubic Service Journalism, to discuss her coverage of the Public Defender crisis in Western States in the seven part series "Broken Defense". As is so often the case, the severe limitations of Public Defender data collection make it so we only have a partial picture. Thankfully, the picture that Emily was able to paint with the resources available to her shows us enough to definitively state that Public Defense in Western states is failing.   Guest: Emily Hamer, Investigative Reporter, Lee Enterprises' Public Service Journalism   Resource Part 1: 'Unconstitutional' public defense systems upend lives, freedom across West  Part 2: Montana lawmakers examine public defense, 'gap between reality and justice'  Part 3: On the brink of 'crisis': Arizona's public defense system hit hard with staffing shortages  Part 4: 'America's dirty little secret': Thousands of misdemeanor defendants don't get attorneys  Part 5: Staffing shortages, crushing workloads make public defenders' jobs 'impossible'  Part 6: 'Undue influence': Public defenders work can be undermined by judges, local officials  Part 7: Upcoming 'watershed' moment in public defense could spark nationwide solutions      Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

When you hear the phrase "Bill of Rights", you like envision the first 10 amendments of the U.S. Constitution. You may conjure up the many individual liberties that are protected by that bill of rights as a way to limit the power of the government, but in some states, the government has its own bill of rights. Today on the show, Hunter spoke with three Public Defenders from the state of Delaware to discuss their law enforcement bill of rights. Kevin O'Connell, Misty Seemans, and Elliot Margules walk us through the history, implementation, and impacts of this quirky legal process that can make it exceedingly difficult for public defenders and even prosecutors to get their hands on evidence of police misconduct.     Guest: Kevin O'Connell, Chief Public Defender, Delaware Misty Seemans, Family Court Supervisor, Delaware Elliot Margules, Special Litigation Attorney     Resources: Delaware Public Defender https://ods.delaware.gov/   Sixth Amendment Center Report on Delaware https://sixthamendment.org/6ac/6AC_delawarereport.pdf   Delaware Call: Why we need access to police misconduct records in Delaware - PART I: The problem: How LEOBOR has kept police misconduct secret https://delawarecall.com/2023/01/11/why-we-need-access-to-police-misconduct-records-in-delaware/     Delaware Call: Why we need access to police misconduct records in Delaware - PART II: The History: How the First State came to adopt LEOBOR https://delawarecall.com/2023/01/30/why-we-need-access-to-police-misconduct-records-in-delaware-2/     Delaware Code: Delaware's LEOBOR  https://delcode.delaware.gov/title11/c092/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

60 years ago, Clarence Gideon changed the legal landscape of America forever. Thanks to his self-written petition to the Supreme Court, it was finally recognized at the federal level that any person charged with a felony who cannot afford to hire was entitled to one under the 6th Amendment. Soon, that right would be extended to a person facing any possibility of confinement, and thus, our modern understanding of Public Defense was born.   On today's episode, Hunter spoke with to members of the Bronx defenders to reflect on the legacy of Gideon. Justine Olderman, Executive Director, and Wesley Caines, Chief of Staff, are part of the team at the Bronx Defenders trying to take the lessons from the past to drive new innovations in Public Defense. From the perspective of the attorneys and the formerly incarcerated, today's episode attempts to look at the strategic end state Public Defense hopes to achieve and the what it will take to achieve it.   Guest: Justine Olderman, Executive Director, Bronx Defenders Wesley Caines, Chief of Staff, Bronx Defenders     Resource Bronx Defenders https://www.bronxdefenders.org/staff/justine-olderman/ Follow Wesley on Twitter https://twitter.com/bm_mansamusa Follow Justine on Twitter https://twitter.com/jolderma Inquest Series on Public Defense https://inquest.org/tag/public-defenders/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Today, Hunter spoke with David Garlock, a formerly incarcerated and current criminal justice reformer, to discuss how David's journey from victim, to prison, to life after prison has landed him advocating to end sex offender registries. As a child, David endured nearly a decade of child sexual abuse. Eventually, he and his brother sought revenge against the man who committed the acts, and they made the decision to murder that man. David and his brother would go on to be convicted of murder and spend a decade locked away in an Alabama prison. Following his prison time, David began working with those who committed sex crimes in an attempt to rehabilitate them. Given his experience, there are few people who can speak with such moral authority on the issue of the sex offender registry and in the efforts to move our system away from one with a bedrock of vengeance.     Guest: David Garlock, Formerly Incarcerated and Criminal Justice Reformer   Resources: David Garlock Website https://www.davidlgarlock.com/ David Garlock on Twitter https://twitter.com/davidleegarlock National Association for Rational Sex Offender Laws https://narsol.org/     NAPD 2023 National Conference Sign Up https://nationalpublicdefensevirtua2021.sched.com/   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

On today's episode, Hunter spoke with Jon Lyon, the Investigator Resource Coordinator for the National Association for Public Defense, to talk all things investigator related. As Public Defense is focused on the practice of law, it makes sense that most of our conversations are lawyer centric, but part of the role of this show and of the NAPD is to remind everyone involved in Public Defense that it takes an entire team of people to represent someone. You may be the best lawyer on Earth, but if there is no one to assist you in collecting evidence, interviewing witnesses, or chasing down leads, there are limits to what you can accomplish in the court room. For this reason, it is essential that we understand that without investigators, there is no Public Defense.     Guest: Jon Lyon, Investigator Resource Coordinator, National Association for Public Defense     Resources: NAPD Website https://www.publicdefenders.us/ Lyon Legal Logistics https://lyonlegallogistics.com/ Internet Sleuths https://www.internetsleuth.net/     NAPD 2023 National Conference Sign Up https://nationalpublicdefensevirtua2021.sched.com/   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Previously on the show, Hunter spoke with Marea Beeman about the dangerous fines and fees that make "free" attorneys decidedly not "free". Today, Hunter sat down with Priya Sarathy Jones, Deputy Executive Director of the Fines and Fees Justice Center, to do an even deeper dive on the hidden costs that come with any interaction with the legal system. Since the Reagan administration, local communities, starved of federal support, began using the legal system to generate revenue. From that point on, more and more fees that have nothing to do with restitution to victims of crimes have been added to our legal system. As a result, a simple interaction with the legal system now carries a high risk of getting trapped in a cycle of poverty and debt.   Guest: Priya Sarathy Jones, Deputy Executive Director, Fines and Fees Justice Center   Resources: Fines and Fees Justice Center Website https://finesandfeesjusticecenter.org/     NAPD 2023 National Conference Sign Up https://nationalpublicdefensevirtua2021.sched.com/   Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Taking over a Public Defender System requires one to understand the greatest weaknesses of the system. For TaShun Bowden-Lewis, one of those is a sever lack of outreach from the Connecticut Office of the Public Defender Office. While it will not happen overnight, TaShun hopes that by achieving her three main goals she will be able to transform the state wide system into one that is at the forefront of reshaping public safety policy. From innovative ideas for external affairs to caring for the wellbeing of every Public Defender under her leadership, TaShun offers the state hope for a better model of Public Defense.     Guest: TaShun Bowden Lewis, Chief Public Defender, Connecticut Office of the Public Defender Resources: Connecticut Office of the Public Defender https://portal.ct.gov/OCPD CT Public Defender on Twitter https://twitter.com/ctpublicdfndrs     NAPD Conference Sign Up https://napd2023riseresistrepresent.sched.com/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

After spending 18 years behind bars for a crime he did not commit, Anthony Graves hopes he can start a movement of getting more people with experience with the legal system involved in Public Defense. As the Director of Community Outreach for the Harris County Public Defender Office, Anthony is helping to bridge the gap between Public Defenders and the clients they represent. With crushing caseloads and minimal resources, Public Defenders cannot always provide the type of care that each of their clients need. While we may understand that this is more a product of a failing public defender system than the indifference of the attorney, the client only sees that their needs are not being met. From there, trust, with the client and the community, can easily erode. This is where Anthony steps in.     Few people know the needs of those currently accused of a crime quite like those who have spent time trapped in the legal system. Yet, many who serve as Public Defenders are unable to fully relate to the plight of their clients. With the help of Anthony and his Peer Navigators, Public Defenders can fill this critical knowledge gap and move one step closer to true holistic representation.     Guest: Anthony Graves, Director of Community Outreach, Harris County Public Defender Office   Resources: Harris County Public Defender Office http://harriscountypublicdefender.org/ Anthony's Website https://www.anthonygraves.org/ Follow Anthony on Twitter https://twitter.com/anthonycgraves?lang=en Email Anthony ACGraves18@Gmail.com In Memorium of Jeff Blackburn https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/jeff-blackburn-obit-texas-attorney-tulia-drug-bust-17755009.php   NAPD Conference Sign Up https://napd2023riseresistrepresent.sched.com/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Normally in criminal law, intent matters. The intent of a person is one of the most critical features in determining how we will punish someone for a crime they committed. Then came the felony murder law. As a result of this law, people committing a felony that resulted in the death of another, no matter how remote that death may have been, were treated the same as someone who acted with the intent to kill someone. How this happened, the impacts of this harsh law, and what we can do about it are all topics in today's episode with Nazgol Ghandnoosh, Co-Director of Research at the Sentencing Project.     Guest: Nazgol Ghandnoosh, Co-Director of Research, The Sentencing Project     Resources: Nazgol's Publications http://www.nazgolghandnoosh.com/research.html Sentencing Project Report on Felony Murder https://www.sentencingproject.org/reports/felony-murder-an-on-ramp-for-extreme-sentencing/     NAPD Conference Sign Up https://napd2023riseresistrepresent.sched.com/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Today, Hunter spoke with the newest Chief Public Defender for the State of Maryland, Natasha Dartigue. Throughout her career, Natasha worked in every imaginable part of the Maryland Public Defender system. As such, she is acutely aware of the strength, weaknesses, and challenges she will face as she leads the office into the next decade. As with all of the conversations we have with leaders of a state wide Public Defense system, Natasha brings with her a vision for a safer, more vibrant community through the revitalization of public defense in the state of Maryland.     Guest: Natasha Dartigue, Chief Public Defender, Maryland Office of the Public Defender     Resources: Maryland Office of the Public Defender https://www.opd.state.md.us/ Maryland Public Defender Caseload Standards https://silo.tips/download/maryland-attorney-and-staff-workload-assessment-2005 Geoff Burkhart "How to Leverage Public Defender Workload Studies"" https://kb.osu.edu/bitstream/handle/1811/80800/OSJCL_V14N2_403.pdf?sequence=1   NAPD Conference Sign Up https://napd2023riseresistrepresent.sched.com/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

For somewhere between a third and a half of indigent people accused of a crime, they will be given either an assigned or contract Public Defender. Today's guest, Professor Eve Primus, argues that we must move away from that contract model of Public Defense. After years of research and writing, Eve is positive of one thing: to ensure everyone accused of a crime who cannot afford an attorney is provided competent representation, we must make full time Public Defense Offices the standard delivery method for public defense.   From the lack of available resources to the lack of political voice, Eve posits that assigned counsel systems are no longer a viable option for the indigent clients they represent. To hear how she arrived at this point, why she is hopeful change can manifest, and the role she feels law schools must play in making our legal system better, tune in to this awesome conversation!     Guest: Eve Primus, Professor of Law, University of Michigan Resources:   The Problematic Structure of Indigent Defense Delivery https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4232443   NAPD Conference Sign Up https://napd2023riseresistrepresent.sched.com/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

For some reason, people forget that long before New York or Illinois ended cash bail, New Jersey successfully eliminated cash bail. As Joseph Krakora shares on today's episode, that initiative came, in part, because Public Defense was valued enough by local politicians to be a major voice in shaping criminal justice reform. With more than a decade as the head of the New Jersey Public Defender System, few are better situated to share the story of bail reform and Public Defense in the state of New Jersey. Most importantly though, this story highlights why it is so important for Public Defenders to make themselves heard when policy is being crafted.       Guest: Joseph Krakora, Public Defender of the State of New Jersey Resources: Office of the New Jersey Public Defender https://nj.gov/defender/   NAPD Conference Sign Up https://napd2023riseresistrepresent.sched.com/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

While the main focus of the podcast is the representation that adults receive in felony and misdemeanor cases, there are countless other areas of law where indigent people need the help of attorneys. There are few states capable of providing the resources and care necessary to create a functioning public defense system for adult representation, so we shouldn't be surprised when things like Juvenile and Immigration representation fall to the wayside. Iowa is no exception. Recently, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court stated Public Defense in Iowa was on the verge of collapse. If that's the case, what's happening to juvenile and immigration representation?     To help answer these questions, Hunter spoke with Julia Zalenski, a Public Defender in the Iowa City Public Defender Office, and Rachel Antonuccio, the supervisor at the Waterloo Juvenile Public Defender Office. Through their tireless work and speaking on the show, they hope to draw attention to the needs of the countless clients who are easily ignored by the state.     Guest: Rachel Antonuccio, Supervisor, Waterloo Juvenile Public Defender Office Julia Zalenski, Public Defender, Iowa City Public Defender Office Resources: Iowa Public Defender Office https://spd.iowa.gov/ Iowa Public Defense Crisis https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2023/01/11/iowa-indigent-defense-attorneys-crisis-supreme-court-chief-justice/69792316007/   NAPD Conference Sign Up https://napd2023riseresistrepresent.sched.com/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

In a good faith effort to hold police accountable, states and counties around the country started mandating that police wear body cameras at all times. When they or on or working, they offer a powerful source of evidence at the misconduct of officers. There is just one problem: With Public Defender Offices in crisis around the country, do they actually have the time to review hundreds of hours of video evidence in every case? That answer, for a long time, was no. That's where Justice Text, and our guest today come in.     As student at the University of Chicago, Devshi Mehrotra realized the inequities in our legal system following the murder of Laquan McDonald. As the Chicago community rallied for change, she wanted to help. Out of this desire the idea for Justice Text was born. On today's show, you will hear more about the creation of Justice Text, how it helps Public Defenders, and the role tech needs to take in helping balancing the scales between resources available to police, prosecutors, and Public Defenders.       Guest: Resources: Justice Text https://justicetext.com/ Justice Text on Twitter https://twitter.com/JusticeText NY Times article on the disparity in access to tech across the legal system https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/22/business/law-enforcement-public-defender-technology-gap.html   NAPD Conference Sign Up https://napd2023riseresistrepresent.sched.com/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

With the grueling nature of Public Defense work, it takes a special combination of internal and external motivations to navigate a 20+ year career in the field. Today on the show our guest, Andre Vitale, shares with us how he managed the highs and lows of working in Public Defense in three separate states.     When his career started, Andre served as a line defender in the Monroe, County Public Defender Office in Rochester New York. After more than a decade there, Andre spent a year in King County Washington, to help refine his skills as a Public Defense Trainer. After finally landing in the Hudson Trial region in New Jersey, Andre has helped to cultivate inciteful and productive training programs for Public Defense around the country. As he sees it in order to get Public Defense where it needs to go, a robust training program is a must, and it is part of what kept him going through all of these years!     Guest: Andre Vitale, Acting First Assistant Deputy Public Defender, Trial Chief, Hudson Trial Region at New Jersey Office of the Public Defender Resources: NJ Office of the Public Defender https://nj.gov/defender/     NAPD Conference Sign Up https://napd2023riseresistrepresent.sched.com/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

When we think of zealous Public Defense, we often think of triumphant victories in the court room, but today's guest wants Public Defenders to realize their greatest victories must come outside of the court room. Joining Hunter today once again is Sam Allison-Natale. He is the Executive Director of the Kansas Holistic Defenders, the only holistic public defender office in the state of Kansas dedicated to representing only misdemeanor clients.   Unlike most states, the Kansas Public Defender system provides representation only to those accused of felony crimes. So, when Sam moved with his family from New York to Lawrence Kansas, there was a limited opportunity to continue serving his community as a Public Defender. Undeterred, Sam seized on the already existing local groundswell of people calling for drastic changes to the local criminal legal system. In understanding the power of organizing and collective action, Sam assisted in getting the office up and running. On today's episode, you'll find out how the team at Kansas Holistic Defenders accomplished this and continue to work with the community to challenge the carceral system! Guest: Sam Allison-Natale, Executive Director, Kansas Holistic Defenders Resources: Kansas Holistic Defenders https://www.kansasholisticdefenders.org/ ICE Detention Story https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww2.ljworld.com%2Fnews%2Fpublic-safety%2F2023%2Fjan%2F20%2Fdouglas-county-sheriff-seeks-legal-advice-on-handling-warrants-from-federal-immigration-officials-that-are-not-signed-by-a-judge%2F Sanctuary City News  https://metrovoicenews.com/lawrence-moves-forward-with-sanctuary-city-plans/ Sanctuary Alliance Lawerence Kansas https://www.facebook.com/SanctuaryAllianceLawrenceKS/     NAPD Conference Registration  https://napd2023riseresistrepresent.sched.com/tickets     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Today, Hunter spoke with Diane Lozano, the Wyoming State Public Defender, to discuss how she's been able to secure support for Public Defense in the challenge political landscape of Wyoming. With more than a decade at the helm of the state's public defender system, Diane's use of data and public advocacy has allowed her to maintain support through multiple state Congresses and Gubernatorial administrations. Despite the turmoil that comes with changing faces of a constantly rotating political body, Diane found a way to build the necessary relationships and compile the necessary data to make convincingly and consistently make the case for people to care about public defense. This task is even more impressive when one considers that her position is a direct Gubernatorial appointee!     Yet her victories are always in a precarious state. As with all states, funding for public defense is always at the whim of an ever-changing political body, but in Wyoming, it's also tied to the success of the fossil fuel industry. Despite victories both in and out of the court room, the boom bust cycle of the fossil fuel industry often leaves her offices and the support services their clients need, in a precarious position. What can be done to shore up a more consistent funding stream? What can we learn from the story of Public Defense in Wyoming? All that and more will be answered by the end of this excellent conversation!   Guest: Diane Lozano, State Public Defender, Wyoming Resources: Lozano v Circuit Court https://casetext.com/case/lozano-v-circuit-court-of-sixth-judicial-dist Wyoming Public Defender https://wyodefender.wyo.gov/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

For decades, activists, scholars, and attorneys decried the state of public defense in New York. Report after report uncovered a broken system that underpaid public defenders and contact attorneys alike as the state shirked its responsibility to adequately support the counties in their effort to provide counsel to the poor. Even after a landmark study, mandated by the state's chief justice, it would take another decade and a lawsuit from the NYCLU, to finally start the process toward reform.     For much of her career, today's guest zealously advocated for poor clients facing the death penalty. As such, Patricia Warth was able to see first-hand the incredibly positive impacts that a well-funded, well-staffed public defender office could have on the lives of the accused and the community writ large. Today, her experience as a death penalty lawyer informs her work as the Director of the New York Office of Indigent Legal Services. While not fighting battles in the courtroom, Patricia is still caught in a daily struggle to help legislators from around the country understand the necessity for the state to continue to expand its support for public defense. With her incredible experience at nearly every level of public defense in New York, Patricia is the perfect guest to help us understand what we can learn from the rehabilitation of New York's Public Defense System.     Guest: Patricia Warth, Director, New York Office of Indigent Legal Services Resources: 2006 Reports on New York Indigent Defense https://www.nycourts.gov/ip/indigentdefense-commission/IndigentDefenseCommission_report06.pdf https://www.nycourts.gov/ip/indigentdefense-commission/SpangenbergGroupReport.pdf Hurell-Harring Settlement Implementation https://www.ils.ny.gov/node/56/hurrell-harring-settlement-implementation https://www.ils.ny.gov/files/Statewide%20Counsel%20at%20Arraignment%20Report%20Year%202%202020.pdf State of Injustice: How New York State Turns its Back on the Right to Counsel for the Poor" https://www.nyclu.org/sites/default/files/publications/nyclu_hh_report_FINAL.pdf NY ILS website   https://www.ils.ny.gov/     Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Today on the show, Hunter spoke with Michael Smith, an Assistant Public Defender in Chattooga County, Georgia, to talk about the unique challenges he faces as a rural public defender. After college and law school took him away from his home in Chattooga, County, Michael Smith returned home with a new found understanding of the inequities his community faced.     As the only public defender in the county, Michael is responsible for ensuring the rights of every person in the county are protected. As if that burden was not enough, the county, like so many rural areas of the country, suffers from a severe drought of mental health and transportation services that are essential to assisting people escape the cycle of legal system interactions. If we are to solve the nation's Public Defense crisis, we will need to come up with solutions to get desperately needed resources and services to rural and urban public defenders alike.     Guest: Michael Smith, Assistant Public Defender, Chattooga County Georgia Resources: Contact for Michael https://www.lmjc.net/?page_id=530  Contact Hunter Parnell:   hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com   Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Over the last year of Public Defenseless, Hunter spent a lot of time speaking with Chief Public Defenders from commissions and state-wide offices around the country. This top down view of Public Defense is extremely valuable and will be something that you hear more of on the show, but Hunter also realized he neglected to get the voices of line public defenders on the show. Over the course of the year, more episodes with line public defenders, like the one today, will be coming your way!     Today, Hunter spoke with Felipe Gonzalez, a felony public defender in Anne Arundel County, Maryland. His story, like many line defenders around the country is impossible to tell without discussing crippling caseloads, staffing shortages, and prosecutors who religiously advocate for no bail for most accused of a crime. Yet despite this, Felipe is able to rely on the tight knit office community to weather the storms inherent in the work.  We hope you enjoy the first of many conversations with the line defenders who serve as the back bone of public defense around the country!     Guest: Felipe Gonzalez, Felony Public Defender, Anne Arundel County Maryland      Resources: Anne Arundel County PD Office  https://www.opd.state.md.us/anne-arundel   Contact Hunter Parnell:   hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

A major theme of this show is empower regular people with the knowledge necessary to push back against the overreach of the state via police and prosecutors. That's why Hunter was so excited to bring you today's episode with a representative from the organization called Citizens Overseeing Police Oklahoma. The guest today is your everyday Oklahoman who is tired of the rampant corruption and abuse that police and prosecutors of the state get away with on a daily basis. While we could only scratch the surface of the issues facing the state, even the limited dialog should be eye opening for anyone interested in creating a fairer and safer Oklahoma.      ****A NOTE ABOUT TODAY'S SHOW**** Our guest today is remaining anonymous due to legitimate concerns to their safety. Already, law enforcement has engaged in activity that is nothing short of reprisal and harassment for the guest's continued efforts to push back against their abuse of power. As such, the voice you will hear on today's show is AI generated to protect the identity of the guest.    Guest: Representative of the Citizens Overseeing Police Oklahoma   Resources: Citizens Overseeing Police Oklahoma https://www.citizensoverseeing.com/oklahoma/police The Brady List https://giglio-bradylist.com/ *These are all single sources for the names and alleged activity in the episode. If more sourcing is requested, please contact Hunter or Citizens Overseeing Police OK* Matt Ballard https://www.citizensoverseeing.com/projects/brady-disclosure/district-attorneys/district-12 Isaac Shields & George Gibbs https://www.citizensoverseeing.com/projects/brady-disclosure/district-attorneys/district-12/d12-shields-gibbs Brian Hermanson https://www.citizensoverseeing.com/projects/brady-disclosure/district-attorneys/district-8  David Prater https://www.citizensoverseeing.com/projects/brady-disclosure/district-attorneys/district-7/district-7-2022 Rebecca Boyer https://www.citizensoverseeing.com/projects/brady-disclosure/district-attorneys/district-4 Gayland Geiger https://giglio-bradylist.com/individual/gayland-%20gieger Prater witness intimidation https://web.archive.org/web/20220428145903/https://okjusticereform.org/2021/05/trichell-jones-when-survivors-are-criminalized/ Bob Macy https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/history-of-misconduct-chronicled-in-oklahoma-county-with-41-executions Richard Glossip - Save Richard Glossip.com Richard Glossip Appeals; Fern Smith; AG John O'Connor, No. PCD-2022-589 (Post Conviction-Death) and No. PCD-2022-819 (Post Conviction-Death)  Fern Smith - (destruction of evidence) Glossip Independent investigation Molly Miller & Colt Haynes  - Love County Partners in True Crime Abc 19 in Phoenix ,Dave Biscobing @DaveBiscobing15  Full disclosure: Investigating Arizona's broken "Brady list" system (part 1); Full disclosure: Investigating Arizona's broken "Brady list" system (part 2) Mark Lamb https://revealnews.org/article/big-lie-sheriffs-target-us-elections/ Angela Marsee https://www.citizensoverseeing.com/projects/brady-disclosure/district-attorneys/district-2 The president of our sheriff's association - Chris West - https://giglio-bradylist.com/individual/chris-%20west Canadian County Sheriff Major Adam Flowers https://giglio-bradylist.com/citizen-report-no-1665354581-1109384232 Fern Smith - Now ADA in Johnston County - Johnston County Sheriff Office "In 2021, Johnston County saw a total of 15 pursuits. From January this year to now they've already had 11." Johnston County Sheriff Dodd on April 4, 2022 Love County Sheriff Joe Russell Witnesses in Love County Sheriff Joe Russell Removal Gabriel Alexander Johnston County uses of force Johnston County Sheriff - Gary Dodd Fern Smith, has made it Very clear in Court documents That the state of Oklahoma has zero jurisdiction over their own Sheriff Because he is a tribal member. Craig Ladd - District 20 District Attorney 18-9526 McGirt v. Oklahoma (07/09/2020) - Supreme Court CLEET Preston Draper, the General counsel, Level playing Field Solutions File a brady list complaint Sanctuary county Map A.D.A Melissa Henke Hidden Camera in attorney/client room of Carter County Jail. State Rep Justin Humphrey - Richard Glossip Press Conference September 2022       Contact Hunter Parnell:   hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com   Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Across the country, outdated and disconnected data systems keep thousands of people stuck in prison or on community supervision long after they should technically be free. Today, Hunter spoke with Serena Chang, a product manager at Recidiviz, a tech nonprofit working to solve this problem and make the criminal justice system fairer, smaller, and more effective.   As discussed in the episode with Jason Tashea, the legal system is slow to incorporate new technology. Yet for States and organizations around the country, it's becoming obvious they can no longer operate a legal system based on individuals enter data by hand or relying on the memory of a few overworked officials. This is where Recidiviz enters the conversation. Tune in to hear how Serena and Recidiviz craft individualized, yet scalable solutions that aim at reducing the power and reach of the American prison industrial complex!     Guest: Serena Chang, Product Manager, Recidiviz   Key Topics: Serena's journey to Recidiviz [5:00] The Problems facing the legal system [6:35] How to craft solutions and how they worked in Idaho [14:25] How states get introduced into Recidiviz' work [23:04] How Recidiviz works on policy [25:10] Ensuring increasing efficiency does not simply increase the efficiency of incarceration [28:37] Preventing the states from using data collected to implement more pro carceral policy [31:27] Ensuring equal access to tools [34:05] Plans for expansion [36:10] How to access Recidiviz' pre-existing tools [38:35] Data Protection [40:35] What would happen if bad/illegal behavior by the state came to light [42:30] Trends Recidiviz noticed in their data collection [44:25] Goals for organization [46:58] How to start partnership [49:15] Offering solutions that do not increase the size and power of the Department of Corrections [51:40] Working with a PD Office [54:20] How to learn more and identify problems [56:22]     Resources: Recidiviz https://www.recidiviz.org/     Contact Hunter Parnell:   hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com   Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

On this episode, Hunter spoke with Jason Tashea to discuss the exciting intersection of tech and the legal system. As the Director and Co-Founder of the Georgetown Judicial Innovation Fellowship, Jason is constantly thinking about ways to ethically integrate technology into the legal world. As an institution predicated on tradition, precedent, and intentionally inefficient legal protections, the legal profession has been incredibly slow to adopt the forward thinking, efficiency mindset so prevalent in the tech world.     It is the juxtaposition of the two that sits at the center of today's conversation. How do we ensure that the efficiency goals of tech don't trample the rights of others? How do we make sure that the vitally necessary data collection practices are implemented safely without privacy violation? All these questions and more are explored in this episode!     Guest:   Jason Tashea, Director and Co-Founder of the Georgetown Judicial Innovation Fellowship     Key Topics: How Jason's Career got him here [5:40] Where does the use of tech currently stand in the legal profession [7:50] Access to Justice Gap [9:28] Understanding the difficulties of a public-private partnership [13:41] Lessons from other countries [16:22] Data Privacy Concerns [19:56] What policies need to be implemented to ensure equal access to new tech [23:50] Balancing tech's desire for efficiency with the law's inefficient legal protections [27:05] More ethical issues with law and tech [34:50] Faith in reforms [38:13] Limiting power of centralization of data [40:40] The Fellowship [45:10] Pushing for an Open Source Environment [52:00] Getting into the Fellowship [53:00] What Public Defenders can do to get more tech solutions [56:00]     Resources: Links for Judicial Innovation Fellowship https://www.law.georgetown.edu/tech-institute/programs/judicial-innovation/ https://twitter.com/JIFGeorgetown https://www.linkedin.com/company/judicial-innovation-fellowship/ Justice as a Platform https://law.mit.edu/pub/justiceasaplatform/draft?access=wd47u265 A Human Rights Approach to Justice Technology Procurement https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4246039 How the US can Compete with China on digital justice technology https://www.brookings.edu/techstream/how-the-u-s-can-compete-with-china-on-digital-justice-technology/ Talk Justice Podcast https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/talk-justice/ Code for America https://codeforamerica.org/ Legal Hackers https://legalhackers.org/         Contact Hunter Parnell: hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

From the denial of basic healthcare needs to decades in solitary confinement, prisoners stuck in the Massachusetts prison system face near daily deprivation of basic human and Constitutional rights. Today, Hunter spoke with Elizabeth Matos to understand how her organization, Prisoners' Legal Services of Massachusetts, challenges this system of relentless brutality.     Guest: Elizabeth Matos, Executive Director, Prisoners' Legal Services of Massachusetts     Key Topics: How Lizz's family history got her into this line of work [6:55] The problems in Massachusetts' Prisons [10:09] Are there other organizations working to solve this problem? [14:17] What do communities miss out on when they don't have a PLSMA type org [17:12] The lack of healthcare in Massachusetts' Prisons [19:35] Specific challenges females face in regard to lack of healthcare [22:41]  How the legislature is responding to this issue [29:30] Staff Assaults in Massachusetts' Prisons [33:56] Solutions for the Staff Assault problem [41:27] Other issues with confinement in Massachusetts' Prisons [47:50] Issues with Solitary Confinement [56:00] Race and Equity Initiatives [1:02:00] The year ahead for PLSMA [1:06:00] Ensuring the voices of the incarcerated are heard when crafting solutions [1:11:00]     Resources: Email Lizz lmatos@plsma.org PLSMA https://plsma.org/ Walpole Prison Riot https://nvdatabase.swarthmore.edu/content/us-prisoners-take-control-walpole-prison-1973 Annie Dookhan https://www.cbsnews.com/news/annie-dookhan-chemist-at-mass-crime-lab-arrested-for-allegedly-mishandling-over-60000-samples/     Contact Hunter Parnell:   hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com   Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

While not a small county, Yolo County California does not have the size or resources to match the major metropolitan areas of San Francisco, Oakland, L.A., or Sacramento. Yet somehow, Tracie Olson, Chief Public Defender Yolo County, and her team at the Yolo County Public Defender Office are able to maintain a strong holistic public defense practice.   Despite a $16 million dollar budget shortfall compared to the prosecutors, Tracie has been able to establish her office as a pillar in the community. If the county and the state of California were to finally fund the office at even 85% of what the prosecutor's office received, the health and safety of Yolo County could reach heights no one thought possible!     Guest: Tracie Olson, Chief Public Defender, Yolo County Public Defender Office     Key Topics: How Tracie got started in Indigent Defense [8:30] Demographics and layout of Yolo County California [13:25] Where the Yolo County Public Defender Office sits California's Public Defense System [15:30] Funding disparity between California Prosecutors and Public Defenders, and what Tracie can do despite the disparity [17:43] Community Response to the disparity in Prosecutor and Public Defense Funding [21:20] The impacts of the "tough on crime" media narratives over the past few years on Yolo County [27:50] Trying to address the housing issue in Yolo County [37:30] What can't the Yolo County PD office do because of the funding shortage and how is the community hurt as a result [41:25] Making Public Defense more than a "check box" system [48:20] Yolo County PD community outreach programs [54:45] What does California need to do to support public defense? [1:05:45]   Resources: Yolo County Public Defender Office https://www.yolocounty.org/government/general-government-departments/law-justice/public-defender Yolo County Public Defender Facebook https://www.facebook.com/YoloPublicDefense/?modal=admin_todo_tour Yolo County Public Defender Twitter https://twitter.com/yolopubdefense   Contact Hunter Parnell:   hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com   Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Why are some state's public defense systems so strong while others are so weak?    This week, Hunter speaks for a second time with David Carroll, the Executive Director of the Sixth Amendment Center. David highlights a handful of reports that his organization conducted in an attempt to improve the public defense systems of many different states.   First, David talks about Oakland Michigan, a now strong system because of the Sixth Amendment Center's findings. Then, he'll go into a weaker system—New  Hampshire. Taking you through the ins and outs of this complicated government, you'll learn exactly why change in this state has been so difficult.    Hunter and David end the episode by delving into the Illinois and Lake County, California reports and how the Sixth Amendment has improved the systems in these locations as well.    This episode highlights the fact that systems can still be bad even with well-intentioned individuals at the helm. However, David will instill you with true hope that positive change is on the horizon.   Key Topics/Takeaways:   Qualifications and independence for attorneys in Oakland. [15:53] Attorney compensation in Oakland. [21:45] Recommendations and results in Oakland. [33:20] The structure of indigent defense in New Hampshire. [41:33] Attorney compensation in New Hampshire. [54:04] Non-lawyer prosecuters. [59:19] The nonprofit state public defender and conflict system. [1:07:20] Caseloads in New Hampshire. [1:10:17] Recommendations for New Hampshire. [1:17:23] The Illinois report. [1:24:28] The Lake County, California report. [1:32:21] A 2022 public defense wrap up + David's hope for the future. [1:38:47]   Guest:   David Caroll, Executive Director, Sixth Amendment Center   Resources:   Sixth Amendment Center Reports     Race to the Bottom Michigan    Memorable Quotes:   "Systems in America, whether that be indigent defense or otherwise, do not need to have a bad person running them for them to fail. In fact, it can be even more difficult for well-intentioned people to correct a system that they are responsible for because it is so much harder for them to see past their own good intentions." (2:40, Hunter)   "People don't even see it anymore. It's ethical blindness right in front of them. And so it takes a group like ours to come in and hold a mirror up and say, no, look at what's actually playing out in all these things." (24:43, David)   "Now that we've solved the compensation issue, once those plans get implemented and in place, once caseloads can be enforced, I think Michigan's well on the way to being one of the better systems in the country." (39:28, David)   "I think a lot of people that want criminal justice reform think that criminal justice systems were rationally constructed. Like someone sat down and said, this is the best way to do it for us. And it's absolutely not the case. It's just piecemeal." (1:08:22, David)   "I am hopeful. I am the eternal optimist. You can't be doing this work for over 25 years and not be hopeful." (1:39:10, David)   Contact Hunter Parnell: hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com Instagram www.publicdefenseless.com

Since its inception, Supreme Court decisions play a terrifying role in controlling the lives of Americans. Few decisions in living memory now play a greater role than the overturning of Roe v Wade.     To understand the impacts of Dobbs v Jackson, Hunter is joined by three guests from the state of Louisiana. Gwyneth O'Neill is an associate at the law firm Schonekas, Evans, McGoey and McEachin. Ellie Schilling is a partner at the same law firm and serves on the board of the non-profit LIFT Louisiana that Michelle Erenberg is the co-Executive Director.     For decades, anti-abortion activists fought tooth and nail to see Roe v Wade overturned, but now that it is, those same activists are demonstrating a fundamental disregard for the impacts of their actions. With healthcare in a precarious situation around the country, the short sightedness of the activists in paraded throughout the episode.     By going through the history of abortion denying access in the state and the many contradictions in the current laws, Hunter hopes to equip every listener, attorney or not, with the tools needed to push back against those seeking to turn Reproductive Healthcare back to 1865.       Guest: Gwyneth O'Neill, Associate, Schonekas, Evans, McGoey and McEachin Ellie Schilling, Partner, Schonekas, Evans, McGoey and McEachin, Board Member Lift Louisiana. Michelle Erenberg, Co-Executive Director, Lift Louisiana     Key Topics: How everyone got involved in Reproductive Justice [6:04] S.B8 Texas [20:20] Evolution of Anti-Abortion Laws [26:00] The impacts of changing the definition of when life starts [33:00] The difficulty of anticipating what comes next with all of the contradictions in the law [49:30] How does the Legislature respond to the hypocrisy [51:00] Chilling effects on Drs and other unintended consequences [55:30] Crisis of Healthcare [1:03:00] How Lift LA tries to appeal to voters [1:14:00] The severe lack of expertise from policy makers ;1:17:00] Criminal Defense Preparing for these cases [1:24:00] Reporting Standards for Doctors [1:36:00] Connecting communities with the resources needed to fight back [1:42:00] What else can the defense bar do to prepare [1:47:00]     Resources: Lift Louisiana https://liftlouisiana.org/ Follow Lift Louisiana on Twitter @liftlouisiana Here's a link to the Abortion Defenders sign up form bit.ly/AbortionDefendersLA Schonekas, Evans, McGoey and McEachin https://www.semmlaw.com/ ACLU https://www.aclu.org/ https://www.aclu.org/other/links-other-reproductive-freedom-sites       Contact Hunter Parnell:   hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com   Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Right now, a three-attorney public defender office in North Dakota has zero attorneys on staff. And with public defender turnover rates on the rise, the state makes it difficult to provide legal representation for all.   In this episode, Hunter speaks with Travis Finck, the Executive Director of The Commission on Legal Counsel for Indigents (CLCI). He brings with him an infectious optimism and deep knowledge of North Dakota public defense.   The first half of the episode will teach you all about the formation of the public defense system in North Dakota and how it transformed into what it is today.    Then, he'll dive into the unique challenges within the public defense and criminal system of the state. Travis will share how he is responding to high turnover rates and low funding while trying to improve public defense in North Dakota for the better.    With only 20-30% of individuals charged with misdemeanors in the state getting public defenders, it's obvious that many people are going without needed legal representation. Travis dreams of a day when North Dakota can boast a great public defender system.    Key Topics/Takeaways: Travis's background in public defense. [5:49] The creation of the North Dakota public defense system. [9:20] Hourly rates and statutory caps. [12:42] Turnover rates. [23:24] The bail system in North Dakota. [35:56] North Dakota determination standards. [43:28] Recoupment fees. [54:09] Where Travis wants public defense to go in North Dakota. [58:52]   Guest: Travis Finck, Executive Director, The Commission on Legal Counsel for Indigents (CLCI)   Resources: CLCI Website   Memorable Quotes: "We like to think we have good people, and when you can't pay good people what they're worth, there's natural inclination for them to look elsewhere. And I don't fault them for it." (24:19, Travis)   "Justice delayed is justice denied." (33:06, Travis)   "Us not being able to staff that office is not a public defense issue. That's a criminal justice system-wide issue." (39:41, Travis)   "The people that are doing this work, sure as hell ain't doing it for the money. We're doing it because it's the right thing to do." (40:18, Travis)   "My personal position on the fees is it's the only constitutional right that I'm aware of that's conditioned upon paying a fee." (56:19, Travis)   "I don't wanna be known as a sufficient public defense system. I wanna be known as a great public defense system." (59:44, Travis)   Contact Hunter Parnell: hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com Instagram www.publicdefenseless.com

For many, the hearing about the opioid epidemic invokes images deindustrialized towns in West Virginia and Kentucky, but it was actually Alabama with the highest rate of per capita prescription.     Today on the show, Hunter Spoke with Leah Nelson, Research Director at Alabama Appleseed, and Stacey Fuller, a Certified Recovery Support Specialist, to discuss the impacts of opioids and addiction in the state of Alabama.     As with most states, Alabama approached addiction not as a illness to be treated, but as a wrong to be punished. For decades, the state failed to provide resources to those battling with addiction and sought to criminalize such behaviors. Predictably, this did little to curb crime, addiction, or overdose deaths.     While it may not happen overnight, Leah and Stacey are certain that by continuing to highlight the issues facing the state, they will be able to turn the state towards a more rehabilitative model.       Guest: Leah Nelson, Research Director, Alabama Appleseed Stacey Fuller, Certified Recovery Support Specialist     Key Topics: How Stacey became involved with the legal system [6:30] Leah sets the stage for how Alabama approaches the problem of addiction [7:45] How the system makes addiction more prevalent [13:45] What is happening at the legislature that enables this? [18:53] What Stacey provides to people fighting addiction [27:40] Inroads made with judges and prosecutors to seek non punitive solutions [31:20] Cost of Addiction in Alabama [33:00] What has Opioids shown about other drug use in the state [38:45] How to ensure we don't redo the war on drugs [42:41] Lack o trust in the system [49:40] Moving Alabama forward [53:00] Alabama Felon Registration Card [59:40]     Resources: Alabama Appleseed Bitter Pill Report http://alabamaappleseed.org/a-bitter-pill/ Empire of Pain: The Secret History of the Sackler Dynasty https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Pain-History-Sackler-Dynasty-ebook/dp/B08ND91K6G Addiction Treatment Centers Alabama https://americanaddictioncenters.org/treatment-centers/alabama     Contact Hunter Parnell: hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

In this episode, Hunter is joined by two inspiring guests from Partners for Justice, a nonprofit organization dedicated to providing support services to people facing criminal charges while helping public defenders protect people from incarceration and other criminal penalties.   Emily Galvin Almanza is the Founder and Co-Executive Director of Partners for Justice, as well as an advocate in the Harris County Public Defender Office. Starting this organization, which is the only one of its kind in existence, she brings insights into its mission and goals. She'll share how holistic representation affects recidivism rates and why it is so effective.   Then, you'll hear from Client Advocate Danielle Hopkins about how she supports her clients by telling their stories and putting the narrative back into their hands. By forcing judges and prosecutors to see her clients as whole people, carceral outcomes have declined.   Finally, you'll learn about cash bail in Harris County and why it is so problematic. In fact, it's causing some innocent people to sit in prison for over a year!    Emily and Danielle dream of a world where people in the indigent system always have top-notch representation. Overall, their work helps people become unstuck from the legal system, turning lives around and saving valuable resources.  [Editoral Note: At the end of the episode, Danielle mentioned SB 26. She was actually refering to SB 6. Furterhmore, the amount of time people spend in Pre-Trial is now commonly ranging from 160-250 days] Key Topics and Takeaways:   Emily and Danielle's background. [4:17] What Emily looks for in a client advocate. [12:31] What Danielle has learned from her time as a client advocate. [18:02] Danielle shares success stories. [28:02] How holistic representation has affected recidivism rates. [31:40] Pushback to holistic representation. [36:36] Danielle's advice to people who want to work in her role. [39:53] Where Emily wants the program to go and the roadblocks to getting there. [42:52] Assigned council. [47:36] Problems with cash bail. [54:05]   Guests: Emily Galvin Almanza, Founder and Co-Executive Director Partners for Justice Danielle Hopkins, Partners for Justice Advocate Resources: Partners for Justice  Follow Emily on Twitter   Memorable Quotes:   "Once you see the sausage getting made, I think it's hard to ever want to eat it again." (20:51, Hunter)   "People who are sitting in jail today cannot wait for policy approaches that accept their suffering as a necessary cost of system change. I think part of an abolitionist approach has to be fighting for radical change, the erasure of an oppressive and racist system in a way that does not accept the non-consensual suffering of others as a necessary cost." (22:37, Emily)   "I feel that this work is actually crucial to undermining the system's ability to perpetually exist as it does. And I feel that we are dismantling it. We're just dismantling it in ways that perhaps are too subtle for people to notice." (26:40, Emily)   "Governments are willing to invest in their public defender once they fully understand what public defenders can do." (36:16, Emily)   "I like completing things and like achieving something and doing this role, I feel like I'm tangibly doing something for clients as opposed to like feeling like I'm just constantly not able to do anything." [40:29, Danielle)   Contact Hunter Parnell: hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com Instagram www.publicdefenseless.com

Today, Hunter spoke with Richard Mauro, Executive Director of the Salt Lake City Legal Defender Association, to talk all things Utah Public Defense.   Not even a decade ago, Utah and Pennsylvania stood as the last two states who provided exactly zero dollars towards Public Defense. As expected, this created a patchwork system in the state that left places like Utah and Salt Lake County able to afford full time public defense offices while the more rural areas of the state were forced to rely on the cheapest flat rate contract imaginable.   As a result of these flat rate contracts, a culture of met and plea arose. Surprisingly, it was the absence of appeals, despite countless stories of ineffective assistance of counsel, that drove people to start evaluating Public Defense in Utah. As alarm bells started going off, the Sixth Amendment Center's 2015 report made even more issues come to light.   By the end of this episode, you will have a clear understanding of what has gone right, wrong, and what sparked the change in Utah Public Defense. Guest:   Richard Mauro, Executive Director, Salt Lake City Legal Defender Association    Key Topics: How Richard got into Public Defense [5:30] Differences in Federal Public Defense and Utah's Public Defense [6:54] Utah Public Defense Before Sixth Amendment Center [8:51] How did the lack of Appeals show issues with Utah PD [11:30] Major findings of the 6AC Report [14:12] How the politics of SLC help Public Defense [18:00] What calculus went into the structure of Utah Public Defense? [22:50] How does the structure of Utah politics help Public Defense? [26:18] How does the Utah Public Defense grant system work? [29:03] Keeping the grant money coming [31:55] Long term goals of the system [38:45] Salt Lake City Public Defense successes and challenges [42:57] Resources:  SLDA Website https://www.sllda.com/ Sixth Amendment Center Report https://sixthamendment.org/6ac/6AC_utahreport.pdf Utah Indigent Defense Commission https://idc.utah.gov/ Contact Hunter Parnell:   hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com   Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

Most people believe that life sentences keep people safe, but the evidence actually points to the opposite. In fact, life sentences were never originally designed to last for life.     In this episode, Hunter speaks with two individuals from the Sentencing Project: Campaign Strategist to End Life Imprisonment Alexandra Bailey and Senior Research Analyst Nazgol Ghandnoosh.   They will share evidence to support their claim that safer communities can be created without harsh sentencing. Then, they'll explain ways that life imprisonment and mandatory minimum negatively affect both families and the criminal system as a whole.   Alexandra and Nazgol both agree that life without parole should be abolished completely, and they'll give you more effective alternatives that could be implemented instead of harsh sentencing.    By the time you're done listening, you'll be questioning whether the United States has gone too far when it comes to sentencing.    Key Topics and Takeaways:   Nazgol shares her background. [5:36] Why life sentences aren't actually helpful. [7:13] Tough on crime. [9:05] How lengthy sentences have impacted the criminal system. [12:49] Extreme sentences and age. [20:19] Why life without parole sentences should be abolished entirely. [41:42] Mandatory minimums. [47:30] Alternatives to harsh sentencing. [53:25]   Guests:   Alexandra Bailey, Campaign Strategist to End Life Imprisonment, Sentencing Project    Nazgol Ghandnoosh, Senior Research Analyst, Sentencing Project   Resources:   Sentencing Project    Lawanda Hollister   Memorable Quotes:   "The death penalty needs to be abolished. It's a barbaric, antiquated punishment that does not serve any function in a modern, civilized society at all. It's gotta go away." (1:22, Hunter)   "If policing and incarceration made a nation safe, this would be the safest nation on earth." (9:53 Alexandra)   "When you imprison someone for decades on end, you are holding people incarcerated who are no longer a public safety risk. In several cases like this, the person who they harmed or the survivors of their crime no longer want them to even be incarcerated. But the system's hands are tied by mandatory sentencing policies." (16:25, Nazgol)   "If mandatory minimums and these extreme sentences are not working, and they're not, then we need to figure out what we're gonna do about it." (27:52, Alexandra)   "Life sentences and extreme sentences are not only ineffective, but they're actually counterproductive. They're preventing us from actually pursuing policies that would effectively reduce crime rates and prevent future victimization." (42:54, Nazgol)   "People are human and I think we have to look at this whole system with a lot more compassion." (55:01, Alexandra)   Contact Hunter Parnell:hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com Instagram www.publicdefenseless.com

Raha Jorjani is an Immigration Defense Attorney in Alameda County, home of California's first public defender Immigration Representation Unit. Because our immigration law is founded on the principle that deportation is a civil issue and not a criminal proceeding which, there are few immigration specific public defender units. This denies millions of people the basic right of public defense.    This episode covers the ideals of America and how our government is willfully disregarding its responsibility to help the people fleeing the countries we have destabilized. Raha shares her personal experience working with clients who may appear like criminals on paper but are often victims of wider circumstances enacted by our own government. To tell their story without those crucial details is not just dishonest but dehumanizing.     Raha hopes that by sharing these stories and making Americans aware of the reality of what immigrants go through, just to have the opportunity to plead their case, we can break down these antiquated systems. Her office is the first of its kind and is being replicated across the country, hopefully to one day become the standard. America is founded on the principle that all men are created equal so it is up to us to ensure that includes the right to due process, evidentiary hearings and access to counsel. Without these standards of human treatment we are failing as Americans.      Key Takeaways: [7:27] Raha's journey into the role of removal defense attorney [11:00] Providing seamless representation from one system to the next [12:40] The distinction between criminal versus civil protections [19:00] How the needs of non-citizens differ from citizens within criminal proceedings [25:30] The difficulty comes in conveying the complicated information accurately to the client [30:00] How policies have changed through each administration [39:00] The Department of Homeland Security is using detention as a litigation tool [46:10] The burden to prove why you should be given the opportunity to remain in America [50:00] Offering asylum for our benefit and not on principle [53:50] Walter's case: The consistent failings of our legal system  [60:30] The opportunity we have to make a positive change   Guest: Raha Jorjani, Deputy Public Defender and Supervising Supervising Immigration Defense Attorney, Alameda County Public Defender Office   Resources: Alameda Public Defender Office Immigration Unit https://publicdefender.acgov.org/Immigration.page Patel v Garland https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/596/20-979/ Fong Yue Ting v. United States https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/149/698/ Demore v Kim https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/538/510/ Jennings v Rodriguez https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/583/15-1204/ Silent Holocaust Guatemala https://cja.org/what-we-do/litigation/the-guatemala-genocide-case/ Manufacturing Consent by Edward Sherman and Noam Chomsky (El Salvador) https://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499 Somoza Family Dynasty of Nicaragua https://www.brown.edu/Research/Understanding_the_Iran_Contra_Affair/n-background.php Haiti https://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/29/international/americas/haitis-president-forced-out-marines-sent-to-keep.html Chilie https://www.tni.org/es/node/1362 The Jakarta Method by Vincent Bevins (Indonesia, Brazil and many others) https://www.amazon.com/Jakarta-Method-Washingtons-Anticommunist-Crusade/dp/1541742400 CIA Secret War (Laos and Cambodia) https://warontherocks.com/2017/02/the-secret-war-that-transformed-the-cia/ https://www.npr.org/2017/01/23/511185078/america-in-laos-traces-the-militarization-of-the-cia Iran https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days Title The Story of Walter Cruz-Zavala The Long Campaign to Deport Walter Cruz-Zavala (theintercept.com) https://theintercept.com/2022/09/20/walter-cruz-zavala-el-salvador-state-of-exception/   Memorable Quotes:   "In the immigration system, the government can put you behind bars and then tell you it's your burden to prove. They don't have to justify why they imprisoned you. You have to justify why you should be free. So you have to prove why you're not a danger to the community, you have to prove that you're not a flight risk and Hunter, that's people who are eligible for bond."  [33:40]   "The power of detention is ultimately used as a litigation tool by the Department of Homeland Security. This is one of the only areas where, if you win, you stay in."[39:30]   "When people end up in the deportation system, it is almost always after they have been dealt with by the criminal legal system. So even to the extent that people believe in the criminal legal system and the need for accountability and punishment; the double irony is that these folks have already been through that system, so they've already served their time." [43:40]   "Our relationships with countries define how we view people. So, if we don't agree with a certain country's position, we tend to welcome people from those countries because we basically want to further entrench the idea that what's happening there is bad. Whereas other people from other countries could be facing similar types of persecution or violence and we have very many closed door policies."  [50:24]   Contact Hunter Parnell: hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com Instagram Twitter www.publicdefenseless.com

Today, Hunter spoke with Alec Karakatsanis, Founder and Executive Director of Civil Rights Corps, for a discussion about dismantling America's punishment bureaucracy. With his work at Civil Rights Corps, Alec brought to light the immense human suffering caused by the punishment bureaucracy by highlighting the stories of people caught in it and then pushing massive class action lawsuits.   This model of story collecting, storytelling, and then systemic challenges is one the Alec hopes public defender offices around the country will replicate as the success his organization gets in challenging cash bail becomes more widespread.   However great the successes have been, the bureaucracy will not crumble with a few cuts here and there. Alec, like many of Hunter's previous guests, calls for more systemic level thinking, systemic level challenges, and implores those with exposure to the usual cruelty of our legal system to collect and share those stories. With enough of those stories, Alec believes the heart's and minds of attorney and non-attorney alike will change and embrace a more just, equitable, and fair legal system   Guest: Alec Karakatsanis, Founder and Executive Director, Civil Rights Corps     Key Topics: Alec's Career [5:30] Changing the Heart's and Minds of attorneys and non-attorneys about our legal system [7:44] The balance Public Defenders strike between the current case and the future one [24:58] The issues with Legal Academia [29:58] How to bridge the gap between different parts of the political left [33:40]   Resources: Usual Cruelty by Alec Karakatsanis https://www.amazon.com/Usual-Cruelty-Complicity-Criminal-Injustice/dp/1620975270 Civil Rights Corps https://civilrightscorps.org/ Accountability New York https://accountabilityny.org/   Contact Hunter Parnell:   hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com   Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com

When the whole family is involved, it can make all the difference.   In this episode, Hunter speaks with three inspiring individuals out of Family Representation New York—Parent Advocate Supervisor Teyora Graves-Ferrell, Social Work Supervisor Ysmerlyn Murshed, and Senior Staff Attorney Vasili Stotis.   Each one plays a very specific and important role within their organization, and they explain how they work together to make a positive difference for families in their own ways. Through this, you'll see that specialization can be a strong superpower for everyone involved in public defense.   Then, they'll give you a sneak peek into what public defense is like in New York and the unique challenges it brings. Through the city funding many of Family Representation New York's programs, they are making an investment into the long-term healing of families and the system as a whole.   This is a model that many of the smaller public defense offices are moving towards, and hopefully, with time more of the bigger offices can get the resources they need to put this in place. But for right now, New York serves as the perfect example of how investing in families benefits everyone.   Key Topics/Takeaways: Teyora, Ysmerlyn, & Vasili share their backgrounds. [4:26] What their office does and the roles they fill. [7:09] Why specialization works so well. [11:41] Client reactions to their structure. [16:43] How being in New York City affects their work. [23:58] Why early intervention is so important. [34:04] Funding. [37:56] Ways they create a space for people to be heard. [45:34] How civil courtroom and civil proceedings are used against families. [50:24] What they hope to see in the future. [52:58]   Guests: Teyora Graves-Ferrell, Parent Advocate Supervisor Ysmerlyn Murshed, Social Work Supervisor Vasili Stotis, Senior Staff Attorney   Resources: Center for Family Representation New York  Just Making a Change for Families  Is N.Y.'s Child Weldfare System Racist? Some of its own workers say yes. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/22/nyregion/nyc-acs-racism-abuse-neglect.html     Memorable Quotes: "I do this work because at one point in my life, I was a part of this work." (5:57, Teyora)   "Public defense and everything around criminal defense or civil defense and all these things representing people is teamwork. It's a team effort. And when you don't have that team, it doesn't work well." (6:58, Hunter)   "Sometimes we are the first people to listen to our clients' stories without judgment, without blaming or shaming them. So I definitely think that makes a big impact and a big difference on how we are showing up." (19:52, Teyora)   "A lot of the systems in place are racist systems and that can be difficult to express in a courtroom. People don't want to hear that. And even though the systems themselves are built off of these racist policies a lot of judges and a lot of prosecutors don't want to deal with that." (32:09, Vasili)   "Anyone can be impacted. We've represented case workers, we've represented doctors, nurses, parole officers. In some ways, while the system can target certain communities, it doesn't discriminate." (Ysmerlyn, 53:52)   Contact Hunter Parnell: hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com Instagram www.publicdefenseless.com

Why do we punish people? What are the goals of punishment and the legal system? At some point in time, we stopped asking ourselves these questions and it led to a legal system that is disjointed, inconsistent, and unnecessarily cruel.   Today, Hunter spoke with Kaelen Perrochet, a Law Student at UCLA Law School, to dig through some of the philosophical underpinnings of any criminal legal system.     For many, people will say that we punish people because it is what they deserve, but what should our legal system look like if that were the actual justification for punishment? For others, we punish people to deter others from committing crimes, but does punishment deter anyone? Rehabilitation and restoration sound good, but can they functionally create a consistent system that people are willing to accept as being legitimate?   All these questions and more will be explored in this awesome episode about the purposes of punishment!     Guest: Kaelen Perrochet, Law Student, UCLA Law School Key Topics: Why study the Philosophy of Law and Punishment [5:30] What changed through studying these topics [8:30] Retribution theory [11:05] Deterrence Theory [16:00] Rehabilitation Theory [20:00] Restorative Theory [23:00] Issues with Prosecutors under various theories [26:45] Where has restorative and rehabilitative models been used? [29:35] Is punishment necessary? [33:00] Does incarceration make us safer? [38:00] Other theories [41:46] Felon Disenfranchisement and its impacts [45:45] What do each of these theories look like when taken to their logical conclusions? [54:30] Resources: Punishment and Inclusion by Andrew Dilts https://www.amazon.com/Punishment-Inclusion-Membership-American-Liberalism/dp/0823262421 Punishment by Thom Brooks https://www.amazon.com/Punishment-Thom-Brooks/dp/0415431824 Philosophy of Law: A Very Short Introduction (Very Short Introductions) by Raymond Wacks https://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Law-Short-Introduction-Introductions/dp/0199687005   Contact Hunter Parnell:   hwparnell@publicdefenseless.com   Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com