349 | The ACLU Lawsuit Helping to Radically Reimagine Public Defense in Maine w/Zachary Heiden, Carol Garvan, and Eve Primus
349 | The ACLU Lawsuit Helping to Radically Reimagine Public Defense in Maine w/Zachary Heiden, Carol Garvan, and Eve Primus  
Podcast: Public Defenseless
Published On: Thu Apr 24 2025
Description: Today, Hunter sat down with Zachary Heiden, Carol Garvan, and Professor Eve Primus to discuss the ACLU of Maine's major victory in the fight to change Maine's Public Defense. Since the Sixth Amendment Center's report came out years ago, one thing was clear about Public Defense in Maine: it was in a state of crisis. Now, there finally appears to be a path out of the crisis. Thanks in part to the lawsuit filed by the ACLU of Maine, the courage of public defenders, the judiciary, and the delayed but strong action of the legislature, Maine is on the path to Public Defender Offices around the state. On this episode, we discuss how this happened, why it was needed, and what other states can and should learn from this story.   Guest Carol Garvan, Legal Director, ACLU of Maine Zachary Heiden, Chief Counsel, ACLU of Maine Eve Primus, Professor of Law, University of Michigan   Resources:   Contact the ACLU of Maine Here https://www.aclumaine.org/en Read more about the decision here https://www.aclumaine.org/en/robbinsvictory#:~:text=A%20superior%20court%20ruled%20in,to%20end%20the%20ongoing%20crisis.&text=In%20April%202019%2C%20the%20Sixth,on%20public%20defense%20in%20Maine. 6AC Report https://6ac.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/6AC_me_report_2019.pdf Professor Primus's Faculty Page https://michigan.law.umich.edu/faculty-and-scholarship/our-faculty/eve-brensike-primus   Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home