If It’s Not One Thing, It’s Your Mother
If It’s Not One Thing, It’s Your Mother

Where two generations of life coaches come together to talk about life, faith, and getting unstuck.

The one thing AND the mother reunite this week as we discuss Phoebe’s high-stakes March Madness bet, talk about mom’s unspoken messes, and celebrate and evaluate the past 90 days!  JOIN Angela’s Creation Cohort!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back! This week, the one thing is sick, so it’s JUST your mother coming at you with a solo episode about doing it on your own and fostering a good relationship with yourself! JOIN the waitlist for Angela’s Creation Cohort!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back! This week, we’re recapping Phoebe’s latest party, mom’s book stack, and chatting about what we’re changing our mind about.  JOIN Angela’s Creation Cohort!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back! This week we’re talking about nail neutrality, and how to respond to resistance to change! ✨ JOIN Angela’s Creation Cohort!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
It’s our 50th episode, and we’re chatting about the biggest first world problem, where Phoebe hopes to be in her 50’s, and what Angela wishes she knew at 26. Thank you all so much for sticking with us for 50 WHOLE EPISODES. More to come. ❤️  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Happy Monday! This week we’re chatting about the best way to eat popcorn, mom’s magical bookstore experience, and what’s wrong when nothing’s wrong.  SIGN UP HERE for Angela’s Creation Workshop on February 25th!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back! We missed you guys so much & we’re so happy to be back to talk about mom’s silent retreat, fake spring, and how to lead yourself well!  SIGN UP HERE for Angela’s Creation Workshop! Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Hey there! This week, we’re recovering from an actual ice storm. Please enjoy Brandon’s favorite cold opens as a treat!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Hey there! This week: the air fryer tutorial no one asked for, the difference between girl dinner and horse lunch, and pre-deciding.  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back, everyone! This week we're talking about Phoebe's latest cinema obsession, reading the Bible, and how to down-regulate after a long week!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Happy new year! Before we move on to our big 2026 plans, we’re looking back at 2025 and reflecting on the fun we had!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back! This week we’re chatting about fiber (for some reason), Phoebe tragic FOMO situation, and our dreams for the next 90 days!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Happy Holidays, friends! This week, we’re turning into ice monsters, telling everyone we meet that our jeans are made of sweatpants material, and chatting about the ways we quietly quit on ourselves.   FOLLOW Phoebe instagram.com/phoebeisloud FOLLOW Angela Instagram.com/landofangela  For more information on coaching with Angela, visit landofangelacoaching.com
This week we’re chatting about hereditary grinchiness, mom’s home renovation progress, and tiny habits that have made big impact in our lives.  FOLLOW Phoebe instagram.com/phoebeisloud FOLLOW Angela Instagram.com/landofangela  For more information on coaching with Angela, visit landofangelacoaching.com
LIVE from the Norwegian Escape, it’s your mother!!! It’s our first time recording the podcast in person & we’re chatting about our cruise, updating you on the planner and blind-snorkeling situation, and how important it is to rest!  FOLLOW Phoebe & Angela on Instagram www.instagram.com/landofangela www.instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information on coaching with Angela, visit landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back! This week we’re chatting about  Phoebe’s underwater dilemma, the best lunch Angela ever had, and our holiday ins and outs   Listen to Phoebe’s EP! https://tr.ee/cHvs6987vv FOLLOW Phoebe instagram.com/phoebeisloud FOLLOW Angela Instagram.com/landofangela  For more information on coaching with Angela, visit landofangelacoaching.com
Happy Monday! This week we’re chatting about mom’s devastating loss, the scrappiest translation of the Bible, and how to define success.  PRE-SAVE Phoebe’s EP! https://tr.ee/cHvs6987vv FOLLOW Phoebe instagram.com/phoebeisloud FOLLOW Angela Instagram.com/landofangela  For more information on coaching with Angela, visit landofangelacoaching.com
Hey y’all! This week we’re talking about vacation brain, who’s on the express train to Heaven, and what overwhelm really is. Get involved with David’s House at www.dhmin.org Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back! This week, we’re chatting about America’s worst airport, mom’s TV show pet peeve, and what worry isn’t   Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back! This week we’re chatting about celebrity deaths, our new favorite songs, and how to get unstuck from perfectionism! Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back! This week we’re randomly giving a lot of thoughts on pop albums & chatting about resistance. Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back, friends! This week, we survive a tenuous argument about the cast of a classic movie, take a deep dive into Phoebe’s trip to the PNW, and chat about our goals for the rest of the year!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
This week, Phoebe scandalizes Angela by teaching her some Gen-Z slang!   Shop Wyld Notes Fragrances with Angela’s affiliate link! https://wyldnotes.com/?ref=AngelaScott1   Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back! This week we’re talking about Phoebe’s gamer era, being an outfit repeater, and what it really means to be creative.  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back! This week, we’re talking fresh flowers, not getting picked, and what happens in our minds when we say, “I don’t know!”    Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back! This week, we’re chatting about a life-changing book, Phoebe’s fear of numbers, and the what to do about the estrangement crisis.  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back, y'all! This week we're talking about our fall shoe selections, mom's continued TV rabbit hole, and what to do when you realize there's no "there" there.  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back! This week, we’re talking traffic pet peeves and other general grievances, and wondering if venting actually works. Enjoy!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Hey y’all! This week we’re talking about deleting emails, Angela’s ideal weekend, and how to engage with circumstances that may be out of our control. Enjoy!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Welcome back! This week we’re talking about the benefits of barefootedness, mom’s new philosophy on pants, and the ins & outs of special needs sistering!  To Learn more about Friends Life Community, visit friendslife.org Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Hello hello! This week we're talking about Angela's aversion to extracurricular activities, Phoebe's new literature obsession, and how to get your hopes up!    Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com
Hey y'all! This week, we're chatting about mom's new emotional support water bottle, our attention-seeking pet peeves, and the difference between vulnerability and oversharing.  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/
Happy Monday! Phoebe & Angela are SO back to discuss the art of the bracelet stack, Phoebe's tragic trip to the organic grocery store, and what it means to have healthy expectations!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/
Happy Monday! For our 20th episode, Angela is joined by special guests Kimberly Dekkers and Carol Whitfield to chat about all the magic & the mess of mothering special needs kids.  Follow Kimberly & Carol on Instagram:  @kadekkers and @carolwhitfield2193 Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/
Happy Monday! This week, our editor Brandon takes you on a journey back through all of our best moments so far while we get some much-needed R&R! Enjoy!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/
Happy Monday! This week, we're talking about Phoebe’s new TV obsession, Angela’s latest guilty pleasure, and our most unpopular opinion. Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/
Happy Monday! This week, we're chatting about Phoebe’s lunch conundrum, Angela’s deep dive into the glass skin phenomenon, and how we deal with “that must be nice” energy   Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/
Happy Monday! This week, we're chatting about the sheer amount of supplements Angela takes, Phoebe's deep dive into interior design, and what we're finally giving ourselves permission to do. Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/
Good to see ya! This week we're chatting about Phoebe's new home, Angela's poor blind dog, and the power of looking forward!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/ Thank you to Brandon Billings (@brandonsbillings) for editing & mixing our podcast and creating our theme song.  Thank you to Zoë Marie (@zoemariedesigns) for designing our podcast art.
Welcome back! This week we’re chatting about grieving a good book, our biggest mess yet, and things we are absolutely NOT doing anymore.  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/ Thank you to Brandon Billings (@brandonsbillings) for editing & mixing our podcast and creating our theme song.  Thank you to Zoë Marie (@zoemariedesigns) for designing our podcast art.
Hey there! This week, we're chatting about Angela's online shopping crisis, what the word "onus" means, and what boundaries are NOT.  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/ Thank you to Brandon Billings (@brandonsbillings) for editing & mixing our podcast and creating our theme song.  Thank you to Zoë Marie (@zoemariedesigns) for designing our podcast art.
Hey there! It's part three of our Life Edit series, and we're chatting about Angela’s dinner formula, Phoebe’s addiction to bougie water, and how to have a good relationship with yourself!  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/ Thank you to Brandon Billings (@brandonsbillings) for editing & mixing our podcast and creating our theme song.  Thank you to Zoë Marie (@zoemariedesigns) for designing our podcast art.
Hey there! It's part two of our Life Edit series, and we're chatting about female rage, recession indicators, and leaving sacred space in our schedules! Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/ Thank you to Brandon Billings (@brandonsbillings) for editing & mixing our podcast and creating our theme song.  Thank you to Zoë Marie (@zoemariedesigns) for designing our podcast art.
Welcome back! This week we're chatting about Angela's home improvement disaster, Phoebe’s missing voice, and starting a BRAND NEW SERIES called The Life Edit!  
Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/ Thank you to Brandon Billings (@brandonsbillings) for editing & mixing our podcast and creating our theme song.  Thank you to Zoë Marie (@zoemariedesigns) for designing our podcast art.
Happy Monday! This week we're talking about Angela's closet catastrophe, trying to remember the name of that one actor, and COACHING each other! Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/ Thank you to Brandon Billings (@brandonsbillings) for editing & mixing our podcast and creating our theme song.  Thank you to Zoë Marie (@zoemariedesigns) for designing our podcast art.
Hey y’all! This week we’re diving Phoebe’s latest book obsession, Angela’s closet transformation, and the stories we tell ourselves about money   Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/ Thank you to Brandon Billings (@brandonsbillings) for editing & mixing our podcast and creating our theme song.  Thank you to Zoë Marie (@zoemariedesigns) for designing our podcast art.
Hey y’all! This week we’re chatting about  taxes, Phoebe’s honeymoon, and our decision making protocols.  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/ Thank you to Brandon Billings (@brandonsbillings) for editing & mixing our podcast and creating our theme song.  Thank you to Zoë Marie (@zoemariedesigns) for designing our podcast art.
Welcome back! This week we're chatting about Angela's word aversions, our controversial opinions on a popular book series, and how our faith journeys have evolved over the years.  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/ Thank you to Brandon Billings (@brandonsbillings) for editing & mixing our podcast and creating our theme song.  Thank you to Zoë Marie (@zoemariedesigns) for designing our podcast art.
Happy Monday! This week we're chatting about empathy, unsolicited advice, and the cultural war on alternative milks.  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/ Thank you to Brandon Billings (@brandonsbillings) for editing & mixing our podcast and creating our theme song.  Thank you to Zoë Marie (@zoemariedesigns) for designing our podcast art.
Welcome back! This week, we unpack Phoebe’s condition, the unexpected magic of shoulder pads, and what transformation looks like on a random week day.  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/ Thank you to Brandon Billings (@brandonsbillings) for editing & mixing our podcast and creating our theme song.  Thank you to Zoë Marie (@zoemariedesigns) for designing our podcast art.
Welcome back, y'all! On this episode, we discuss Phoebe's breakfast addiction, Angela's new skincare routine, and pivotal moments in our mother/daughter relationship. Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/ Thank you to Brandon Billings (@brandonsbillings) for editing & mixing our podcast and creating our theme song.  Thank you to Zoë Marie (@zoemariedesigns) for designing our podcast art.
On this episode, we chat about mastering our weird work schedules, creating time to do what we love, and Angela's unfortunate massage experience... Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/ Thank you to Brandon Billings (@brandonsbillings) for editing & mixing our podcast and creating our theme song.  Thank you to Zoë Marie (@zoemariedesigns) for designing our podcast art.
Welcome to "If It's Not One Thing, It's Your Mother" with Angela Jowers & Phoebe Runyon. On our first episode, we take you through about a week in our lives and also make a harrowing discovery about Angela...  Follow the pod on Instagram: instagram.com/itsyourmotherpodcast Follow Angela: instagram.com/landofangela Follow Phoebe: instagram.com/phoebeisloud For more information about life coaching with Angela, visit https://www.landofangelacoaching.com/