Gavin Newsom on Leadership, Identity, and Becoming Yourself
Gavin Newsom on Leadership, Identity, and Becoming Yourself  
Podcast: The Midlife Chrysalis
Published On: Mon Jan 19 2026
Description: What happens when ambition slows down, and wisdom begins to lead? Chip Conley, founder of Modern Elder Academy and host of Midlife Chrysalis, sits down with California Governor Gavin Newsom for a rare, deeply personal conversation shaped by nearly 30 years of mentorship and friendship. This is not a political interview, it’s an honest exploration of midlife, identity, and becoming.Together, they reflect on:How Gavin’s upbringing and dyslexia shaped his leadershipWhy legalizing same-sex marriage became a defining moral momentWhat the “winter years” between mayor and governor revealedHow fatherhood and midlife reshaped his relationship with powerWhy grace, humility, and resilience matter now more than everWarm, thoughtful, and deeply human, this episode explores what’s possible when we slow down and listen. If you’re navigating change or reinvention, watch now and step into the chrysalis.Timestamps:03:26 Welcome to Midlife Chrysalis04:06 Long friendship and early mentorship05:54 Childhood and family background08:48 Gavin’s writing experience16:03 Becoming mayor of San Francisco17:38 Decision to legalize gay marriage25:11 Impact of marriage equality27:54 Political winter as lieutenant governor29:24 Identity loss and slowing down33:21 Humility and leadership lessons35:22 Grace humility after years of division38:46 The lost art of civil disagreement41:49 Political vision and building bridges44:10 Stoicism and wisdom traditions47:44 Fatherhood and authenticity49:27 Wisdom bumper stickerLearn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/