The First Rule of "DeProgram" Is Don't Talk About Ex-Co-Hosts
The First Rule of "DeProgram" Is Don't Talk About Ex-Co-Hosts  
Podcast: DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Published On: Wed Sep 02 2026
Description: Ted Rall, Jamarl Thomas, and producer Robby West host an unscripted Q&A, discussing a viral clip about former co-host John Kiriakou’s abrupt departure for CAA, which they describe as transactional rather than personal. They cover immigration enforcement, Pete Hegseth’s fitness as Defense Secretary, Ukraine’s strategy and civilian threats, evangelical end-times theology versus a plain reading of Revelation, false rape accusations and Gen Z dating fears, political theater under Trump, and the value of debate across ideological lines. They close by emphasizing courtesy, honesty, and moving on from old show drama.