Podcast:Business Lunch Published On: Fri Dec 01 2023 Description: Join us in this captivating episode of the Business Lunch Podcast as we explore Sam Altman's dramatic exit and return to OpenAI. Delve into the boardroom drama, power struggles, and ethical dilemmas surrounding one of tech's most talked-about events.This episode offers a unique insight into corporate governance, leadership, and the challenges of balancing profit with humanity's future. Tune in for a compelling discussion that's not just timely but a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of technology and power dynamics.Highlights:"When we talk about AI and its impact on society, we're not just talking about technology. We're talking about power, control, and the future of how we live.""There's a fundamental tension between the visionary aspect of tech founders and the pragmatic, often short-term focus of boards and investors.""What happened at OpenAI isn't just a boardroom drama. It's a reflection of the larger issues at play in the tech industry today."Timestamps:00:00: Introduction04:32: OpenAi’s Leadership08:43: Leadership Change14:14: Leadership Alignment 19:25: Corporate Governance23:58: Founder Removal Mentioned in this episode:Join Roland & Ryan at Get Scalable LiveIf you’re a founder, CEO, or operator running a 7- or 8-figure business, Get Scalable Live was built for you. This is not your typical business event. It’s 3 days of hands-on strategy, real-world frameworks, and next-level networking with the smartest operators in the game. 🗓 November 18–20, 2025 📍 San Diego, CA 🎉 Hosted by Ryan Deiss, Roland Frasier, and Richard Lindner 🎧 As a Business Lunch listener, you get 25% off your ticket. Use code LUNCH at checkout.Get Scalable Live