457: Alex Epstein—Did Bill Gates Change His Mind
457: Alex Epstein—Did Bill Gates Change His Mind  
Podcast: The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe
Published On: Tue Nov 04 2025
Description: Mike joins author and energy expert Alex Epstein to discuss Bill Gates' surprising new stance on climate change, the growing clash between "human-centric" and "anti-impact" environmentalism, and how the AI revolution is reshaping global energy demands. They also explore what this shift means for philanthropy, fossil fuels, and the future workforce driving America's next energy boom.