457: Alex Epstein—Did Bill Gates Change His Mind
457: Alex Epstein—Did Bill Gates Change His Mind  
Podcast: The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe
Published On: Tue Nov 04 2025
Description: Mike joins author and energy expert Alex Epstein to discuss Bill Gates' surprising new stance on climate change, the growing clash between "human-centric" and "anti-impact" environmentalism, and how the AI revolution is reshaping global energy demands. They also explore what this shift means for philanthropy, fossil fuels, and the future workforce driving America's next energy boom. Shout out to our great sponsors Lineman.edu to find your pathway to the trades American-Giant.com/MIKE Use code MIKE to get 20% off your order.