Ex-Google Officer on AI, Capitalism, and the Future of Humanity
Ex-Google Officer on AI, Capitalism, and the Future of Humanity  
Podcast: Digital Disruption with Geoff Nielson
Published On: Mon May 19 2025
Description: Is the real threat of AI the technology or the humans behind it?Today on Digital Disruption, we’re joined by Mo Gawdat, former Chief Business Officer of Google X. Mo is the host of the popular podcast Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat, and the author of several international bestsellers, including Solve for Happy, Scary Smart, That Little Voice in Your Head, and Unstressable. He is also the founder of One Billion Happy and currently serves as Chief AI Officer at Flight Story. With a 30-year career in tech, Mo has since shifted his focus to the pursuit of happiness and human well-being. He has extensively researched the science of happiness and engaged in conversations with some of the world’s leading thinkers. More recently, his work has centered on the urgent ethical and societal challenges posed by rapid advancements in artificial intelligence. Mo sits down with Geoff for an unfiltered conversation on the future of humanity in the age of artificial intelligence. Mo explains that we’re living in the early stages of a technology-fueled dystopia, one that is driven not by AI itself, but by humans who shape it by greed, power, and unchecked capitalism. But he also shares a vision for a future of unprecedented abundance, one where AI could solve global challenges, from climate change to poverty, but only if we as humans embrace ethical design and mutual cooperation. In this episode: 00:00 Intro01:20 AI, geopolitics, and capitalism03:05 Is the problem human nature or systems?06:22 The coming age of abundant intelligence08:13 AI’s dark side13:15 Fear-driven ai development17:10 Handing power to ai19:14 Why superintelligent ai could save us21:12 Can we avoid an ai Hiroshima moment?25:30 Mutual prosperity or destruction29:11 The age of machine supremacy31:00 How to influence AI for good33:12 AI reflects humanity36:06 What AI is learning from us right now40:06 Who thrives in the AI era44:04 The rise of mind manipulation47:02 How to stay critical in a world of deepfakes49:12 Use AI to expand your thinking, not replace it51:21 The leadership skills of the future54:42 Collaborating with AI as team members57:20 Will AI want to connect with us?01:01:06 Could AI become conscious?01:04:48 AI emotions and the next evolution of intelligence01:06:32 The role of humansConnect with Mo:Website: https://www.mogawdat.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mogawdat/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/mogawdatofficialInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mo_gawdat/Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mogawdatVisit our website: https://www.infotech.com/Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfoTechRG