Podcast:The Jordan Syatt Podcast Published On: Tue Mar 09 2021 Description: In this episode I chat with Diren Kartal for an hour about a whole lot of random stuff. We don't discuss fitness much at all. And instead talk about life, being a personal trainer, becoming a better coach and more. I hope you enjoy the episode. And don't forget to follow Diren on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/diren.kartal/ -J