In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan stick everything they've ever read into a March Madness-style bracket to determine what their favorite thing they've ever read is!Big thanks to some of our superfans who helped with this episode!Jose Villalta: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jvillalta/Nick Severinchik: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-severinchik-56463176/David Johnson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-johnson-09891732/-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------The Tao of Programming by Geoffrey Jameshttps://www.talisman.org/tao/----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan are joined by Will Larson, author of Staff Engineer!The first ten listeners to tag Book Overflow on LinkedIn and share a link to this interview will receive a free copy of Will's new book, Crafting Engineering Strategy!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2or work with Nathan through his consulting practice, rojoroboto. Book Overflow Listeners get 10% off their first engagement https://rojoroboto.com/bookoverflow-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Staff Engineer by Will Larsonhttps://amzn.to/4p67dOUn (Paid Link)----------------00:00 Intro01:44 Interview with Will Larson05:00 Anti-patterns - Snacking, Pining, and Chasing Ghosts18:42 Navigating Senior Roles and Finding Sponsors36:26 Developing Intuition and Running Migrations48:47 Writing Staff Engineer - Stories and Archetypes58:45 Book Recommendations and Closing----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Weekly Reflections Newsletter: https://rojoroboto.com/newsletter----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan follow up on all of the changes they promised to make in their careers as a result of having read 2025's books. Let's see how they did!----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan are joined by Steve Flanders, author of Mastering OpenTelemetry!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Mastering OpenTelemetry and Observatibiltyhttps://amzn.to/4nTzXJ1----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the essay The Tao of Programming by Geoffrey James-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------The Tao of Programming by Geoffrey Jameshttps://www.talisman.org/tao/----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan are joined by Dan Heath, co-author of Made To Stick!A note to all video viewers: Dan Heath requested that only his audio, not video, be used, so while he is speaking a copy of Made To Stick will be shown.-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Made To Stickhttps://amzn.to/3UTzcmR (Paid Link)----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of Beyond Vibe Coding: From Coder to AI-Era Developer by Addy Osmani!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Beyond Vibe Coding: From Coder to AI-Era Developer by Addy Osmanihttps://amzn.to/47RZ5uB----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of Beyond Vibe Coding: From Coder to AI-Era Developer by Addy Osmani!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Beyond Vibe Coding: From Coder to AI-Era Developer by Addy Osmanihttps://amzn.to/47RZ5uB----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan are joined by Patrick Debois, co-author of The DevOps Handbook!Register for DevCon Fall 2025 here: https://ainativedev.io/devcon-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------The DevOps Handbookhttps://amzn.to/44tGqlX (paid link)----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of Advanced React by Nadia Makarevich!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Advanced React by Nadia Makarevichhttps://amzn.to/4nZDwOk----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first half of Advanced React by Nadia Makarevich!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Advanced React by Nadia Makarevichhttps://amzn.to/4nZDwOk----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

[We accidentally deleted this episode from audio, so this is a re-upload of the same content. Sorry!]In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first half of Mastering OptenTelemetry and Observability by Steve Flanders!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Mastering OpenTelemetry and Observatibiltyhttps://amzn.to/4nTzXJ1----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first half of Mastering OptenTelemetry and Observability by Steve Flanders!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Mastering OpenTelemetry and Observatibiltyhttps://amzn.to/4nTzXJ1----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of Radical Candor by Kim Scott! Join them as they discuss what makes a good boss, what makes up good feedback, and more!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Radical Candorhttps://amzn.to/3HXRukj----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first half of Radical Candor by Kim Scott! Join them as they discuss what makes a good boss, what makes up good feedback, and more!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Radical Candorhttps://amzn.to/3HXRukj----------------00:00 Intro02:07 About the Book and Author03:06 Initial Thoughts on Radical Candor Part 113:00 The Four Quadrants Framework21:26 Ruinous Empathy - The Career Destroyer32:39 Bringing Your Whole Self to Work46:36 Rock Stars vs Superstars1:03:18 Hot Takes1:08:49 Final Thoughts and Recommendations----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Finite and Infinite Games by James P. Carse! Join them as they discuss the difference between finite and infinite games, the book's philosophy, and how on earth this all relates to software engineering.-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Finite and Infinite Games by James P. Carsehttps://amzn.to/4649Fg4Lecture referenced in the episode:https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Finite-and-Infinite-Games-Audiobook/1615449906Comments section that includes Mitchell Hashimoto AI discussionhttps://lobste.rs/s/pqy0pp/where_s_shovelware_why_ai_coding_claims-----------------00:00 Intro 00:57 About the Book and Author 03:35 Initial Thoughts on Finite and Infinite Games 10:33 The Core Thesis - Finite vs Infinite Games 21:37 The Genius of Myself 34:50 The Sexuality Chapter Discussion 45:15 Machines vs Gardens - Control and Nature 56:30 Waste as Product 1:03:52 AI and Tech Debt - Trading Drudgery 1:11:25 Hot Takes 1:17:33 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Staff Engineer by Will Larson! Join them as they discuss what it means to have staff-level impact, how being a staff engineer differs from being a senior engineer, and more!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Staff Engineer by Will Larsonhttps://amzn.to/4p67dOU (Paid Link)---------- 00:00 Intro 01:08 About the Book and Author 03:34 Thoughts on Staff Engineer 09:29 Staff Engineer Archetypes and Organizational Dynamics 23:17 What Staff Engineers Actually Do 38:57 Soft Power and Cross-Team Impact 52:42 The Reality of Staff Engineering Work 1:03:16 Hot Takes - Silicon Valley and Career Paths 1:12:50 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan are joined by Jason Fried, CEO of 37Signals and author of ReWork! Join them as Jason reflects on how to make great products, sticking to your guns, and having the courage to blaze new trails!Get 25% off Tusk AI!https://bit.ly/tusk-bookoverflow-2-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------ReWork by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hanssonhttps://amzn.to/43vgO7T (paid link)----------------00:00 Intro 01:27 Welcome to Jason Fried 01:32 About Rework and the Industry in 2010 07:43 Remote Work 16:16 What Still Resonates 31:39 Making a Dent in the Universe 40:00 Culture is a Moving Average 49:43 Business Media and Startup Culture 53:48 Book Recommendations 59:54 Resources and Closing--------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second half Made to Stick by Chip Heath and Dan Heath! Join them as they discuss how to make an idea credible, the power of stories, and how to "spot" sticky ideas in the wild!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Made To Stickhttps://amzn.to/3UTzcmR (Paid Link)---------------00:00 Intro02:30 About the Book and Authors03:34 Initial Thoughts on Made to Stick Part 214:00 Credible - Building Trust Without Authority24:26 Emotional - Making People Care37:37 Stories - The Power of Narrative51:45 Hot Takes and the Jared Story56:30 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Made to Stick by Chip Heath and Dan Heath! Join them as they discuss what it means for an idea to be "sticky," what patterns sticky ideas follow, and how this all applies to software engineering!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1NathanComing soon!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Made To Stickhttps://amzn.to/3UTzcmR----------------00:00 Intro02:09 About the Book and Authors04:53 Initial Thoughts on Made to Stick10:22 The SUCCESS Framework17:06 Simple - Commander's Intent31:26 Unexpected - Breaking Patterns45:31 Concrete - Making Ideas Tangible1:00:18 Hot Takes, AI and the Future of Software Engineering1:15:11 Final Thoughts and Recommendations--------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss 99 Bottles of OOP by Sandi Metz, Katrina Owen, & TJ Stankus. Join them as they critique the coding philosophy, discuss the merits of OOP, and ponder how AI is shaping coding standards!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------99 Bottles of OOPhttps://sandimetz.com/99bottles----------------0:00 Intro00:53 About the Book and Authors02:10 Initial Thoughts on 99 Bottles of OOP10:03 Diving into the book11:29 Shameless Green Solution16:07 SOLID Principles Overview21:15 Abstraction vs Simplicity Debate38:10 Testing Philosophy and Abstractions45:42 Object-Oriented Programming Critique50:03 Does Any of This Matter Anymore?1:05:43 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Just for Fun by Linus Torvalds and David Diamond. Join them as they discuss the origins of Linux, Linus's life philosophy, and Linus's legacy!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1/software-engineeringNathanComing soon!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Just for Funhttps://amzn.to/4mdZaNE (paid link)----------------00:00 Intro02:08 About the Book and Author05:06 Initial Thoughts on Just for Fun10:33 Linus's Theory of Life: Survival, Social Order, Entertainment17:01 Rejecting Money and Power24:53 Humble Beginnings42:29 Linux's Success and Predictions55:33 Mindful vs Mindless Entertainment01:01:54 Final Thoughts-----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan finish their discussion of the DevOps Handbook with parts 5 and 6! Join them as they discuss how security practices relate to DevOps, managing security without sacrificing speed, and more!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------The DevOps Handbookhttps://amzn.to/44tGqlX (paid link)----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan are joined by Kirill Bobrov, author of Grokking Concurrency! Join them as Kirill reflects on what it was like writing a book for the first time, why concurrency interests him so much, and more!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Grokking Concurrency by Kirill Bobrovhttps://amzn.to/3GRbnby (paid link)https://mng.bz/Z99m (45% off!)----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss parts 3 and 4 of The DevOps Handbook! Join them as they discuss CICD, on-call rotations, telemetry, and more!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------The DevOps Handbookhttps://amzn.to/44tGqlX (paid link)----------------00:00 Intro02:01 About the Book and Authors03:43 Initial Thoughts on The DevOps Handbook Parts 3 & 407:38 Deployment Pipelines16:55 When to Implement DevOps Practices24:40 Low-Risk Releases and Feature Flags35:06 Telemetry and Observability46:04 Open Telemetry and Tool Recommendations51:57 On-Call Rotations1:01:00 Launch Readiness Reviews1:07:01 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan are joined by Manuel Pais, author of Team Topologies! Join them as Manuel reflects on what surprised him the most while writing the book, how the popularity of remote work has changed team organization strategies, and insights from the new second edition!----------------https://bit.ly/tusk-bookoverflow-1-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Team Topologies: Organizing Business and Technology Teams for Fast Flow by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Paishttps://amzn.to/4kgfH3F (paid link)----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss The DevOps Handbook! Join them as they discuss the origins of DevOps, how it can transform developer organizations, and whether or not it's the silver bullet the authors paint it as!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------The DevOps Handbookhttps://amzn.to/44tGqlX (paid link)----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan celebrate one year of the podcast! Join them as they reflect on what's suprised them, share some stats, and discuss which of the authors they'd most like to pair program with!----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Thinking Like a Large Language Model by Mukund Sundararajan. Join them as they discuss the different mental models for working with AI, the art of prompt engineering, and some exciting developments in Carter's career!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Thinking Like a Large Language Model by Mukund Sundararajanhttps://amzn.to/466v89G (paid link)----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the final third of In The Plex by Steven Levy! Join them as they discuss Google's decision to withdraw from China, their war with book publishers, and their struggles to compete in social media!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------In The Plex by Steven Levyhttps://amzn.to/3T2I6NX (paid link)----------------00:00 Intro05:10 About the Book and Author06:10 Initial Thoughts on the Book11:27 The Real Story Behind Google Leaving China20:44 Google's Moral Dilemmas Part 1 - DoubleClick & Lobbying23:55 Riff: "Corporate Values" and Founder Mode29:22 Google's Moral Dilemmas Part 2 - DoubleClick & Lobbying37:59 Google's Book scanning project42:56 Google vs Amazon's Different Approaches to Book Scanning43:20 Innocent Arrogance - Street View and Privacy46:40 Pirvacy and Surveillance Concerns49:57 Epilogue: Chasing Taillights55:53 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second third of In The Plex by Steven Levy. Join them as they discuss how Google popularized the concept of cloud computing, the invention of Gmail, and more!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------In The Plex by Steven Levyhttps://amzn.to/3T2I6NX (paid link)----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first third of In The Plex by Steven Levy. Join them as they discuss Larry Page and Sergey Brin, Google's Stanford origins, and its impact on the world at large!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------In The Plex by Steven Levyhttps://amzn.to/3T2I6NX (paid link)----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss ReWork by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson. Join them as they each share their five favorite "proverbs" the book has to offer!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------ReWork by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hanssonhttps://amzn.to/43vgO7T (paid link)Grokking Concurrency by Kirill Bobrovhttps://amzn.to/4mwuAzP (paid link)Slow Productivity: The Lost Art of Accomplishment Without Burnout by Cal Newporthttps://amzn.to/43bW06q (paid link)Thinking in System by Donella H. Meadowshttps://amzn.to/43xYATl (paid link)Philosophy of Software Design by John Ousterhouthttps://amzn.to/43xYCdV (paid link)Why We Sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams by Matthew Walker (https://amzn.to/3F94ZfD (paid link)Getting Real: The smarter, faster, easier way to build a successful web application by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson https://amzn.to/3SQlakS (paid link)----------------00:00 Intro01:50 About the Book and Authors05:00 Initial Thoughts on the Book14:20 Top 5 Favorite Chapters Discussion15:00 Tone is in Your Fingers - Tools vs Skills19:00 Anti-Workaholism Philosophy22:32 Focus on What Won't Change27:14 Make a Dent in the Universe33:24 Interruption is the Enemy of Productivity39:59 Go to Sleep - The Importance of Rest46:58 Say No by Default51:35 Welcome Obscurity - Private Launches56:12 Scratch Your Own Itch - Build What You Need1:01:04 How to Say You're Sorry - Proper Apologies1:04:42 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of Grokking Concurrency by Kirill Bobrov! Join them as they discuss the mutexes, semaphores, the reactor pattern, and more!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Grokking Concurrency by Kirill Bobrovhttps://amzn.to/3GRbnby (paid link)----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first half of Grokking Concurrency by Kirill Bobrov! Join them as they discuss the basic building blocks of concurrency, how concurrency has evolved over time, and how building concurrent applications can increase performance!Go Proverbs: https://go-proverbs.github.io/-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Grokking Concurrency by Kirill Bobrovhttps://amzn.to/3GRbnby (paid link)Web Scalability for Startup Engineers by Artur Ejsmonthttps://amzn.to/3F1VWwF (paid link)----------------00:00 Intro02:07 About the Book and Author03:35 Initial Thoughts on the Book09:12 What is Concurrency vs Parallelism12:35 CPUs and Moore's Law22:19 IO Performance, Embarrassingly Parallel and Conway's Law28:25 Building Blocks of Concurrency: Processes and Threads33:05 Memory Sharing vs Communicating39:13 Multitasking and Context Switching45:24 Task Decomposition and Data Pipelines52:35 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan take some time to debrief Georgia Tech's famously difficult Graduate Algorithms course, which Carter just passed! As alumni of the OMSCS program, Carter and Nathan discuss why they chose to pursue the degree, how the course has changed over time due to the improvements in LLMs, and how algorithmic thinking can benefit you as a software engineer!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.--------------------------------------------------------------------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

This week Carter and Nathan read Donella Meadows’ Thinking in Systems. A foundational primer on systems thinking, the book explores how stocks, flows, feedback loops, and leverage points shape everything from ecosystems to organizations. Join them as they discuss how systems thinking applies to software engineering, the hidden structures behind burnout and tech debt, and how to make high-leverage changes in complex systems.-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Thinking in Systems by Donella H. Meadows https://amzn.to/4cMB35k (paid link)Tidy First?: A Personal Exercise in Empirical Software Design by Kent Beck https://amzn.to/3RoB9pR (paid link)Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code by Martin Fowlerhttps://amzn.to/43Wqk5Q (paid link)Fundamentals of Software Architecture: An Engineering Approach by Mark Richards and Neal Fordhttps://amzn.to/3Y7CNjk (paid link)One Nation Under Blackmail, Vol. 1: The Sordid Union Between Intelligence and Crime that Gave Rise to Jeffrey Epstein by Whitney Alyse Webbhttps://amzn.to/3RsMt4f (paid link)Slow Productivity: The Lost Art of Accomplishment Without Burnout by Cal Newporthttps://amzn.to/3EH8MAe (paid link)The Software Engineer's Guidebook: Navigating Senior, Tech Lead, and Staff Engineer Positions at Tech Companies and Startups by Gergely Oroszhttps://amzn.to/3ExwPSa (paid link)What Is ChatGPT Doing ... and Why Does It Work? by Stephen Wolfram https://amzn.to/4iuSUim (paid link)----------------00:00 Intro 01:41 About the Book03:43 Thoughts on the Book08:07 Covering the Foundations and Defining Terms16:36 Feedback loops22:31 Overconfidence and why models lead us astray.35:56 Paradigms and Framing49:30 Leverage Points01:02:04 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

This week Carter and Nathan read the Kent Beck's The Good News Factory. A sequel to Tidy First?, The Good News Factory explores the economics of software and instructs tech executives on how to produce teams that are constantly delivering good news. Join them as they discuss balancing feature development and systems improvment, the economic incentives of software, and more!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.--------------------------------------------------------------------------00:00 Intro12:23 About the Book14:08 Thoughts on the Book16:24 Features, Structure, Coupling, and Cohesion33:13 Responding to Organizational Changes42:12 3X: Explore, Expand, and Extract56:54 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

Following up on their recent discussion on software design (inspired by Book Overflow!), John Ousterhout and Robert "Uncle Bob" Martin join Carter and Nathan for their first ever joint interview! Join them as they discuss what it was like working together, how the discussion came to be, and what they both learned from the process!Ousterhout/Martin Discussion: https://github.com/johnousterhout/aposd-vs-clean-code-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------A Philosophy of Software Design by John Ousterhouthttps://amzn.to/3XCPliz (Paid Link)Clean Code by Robert Martinhttps://amzn.to/4iJ4Ttq (Paid Link)Clean Coder, The: A Code of Conduct for Professional Programmers by Robert C. Martin https://amzn.to/3E9zf9l (Paid Link)We, Programmers: A Chronicle of Coders from Ada to AI by Robert Martinhttps://amzn.to/42aW194 (Paid Link)Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software by Erich Gamma, Richard Helm, Ralph Johnson, John Vlissideshttps://amzn.to/4hRbYa3 (Paid Link)Structured Analysis and System Specification by Tom DeMarco, P. J. Plaugerhttps://amzn.to/3E0Y7QD (Paid Link)Practical Guide to Structured Systems Design by Meilir Page-Joneshttps://amzn.to/4hNd8mV (Paid Link)Design by Contract: By Example First Edition by Richard Mitchell, Jim McKim, Bertrand Meyerhttps://amzn.to/4i4X6VW (Paid Link)Structured Programming by Edsger Wybe Dijkstra, C. A. R. Hoare, Ole-Johan Dahlhttps://amzn.to/42fXfzX (Paid Link)On the Criteria To Be Used in Decomposing Systems into Modules by D.L. Parnashttps://wstomv.win.tue.nl/edu/2ip30/references/criteria_for_modularization.pdf----------------00:00 Intro03:11 Origin of the debate06:52 Motivation for the debate11:35 How did you settle on the terms of the debate?14:30 Overcoming Self-Doubt and Engaging with others20:06 Influences in Developing Design Aesthetics28:45 Taking time for Deep Thinking vs Shallow thinking33:58 Writing Code and Reducing Cognative Load39:05 Encouraging healthy debate42:38 Coding Style, Retirement, and what’s next49:40 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

This week Carter and Nathan take a break from books and discuss the the seminal Worse is Better essays by Richard P. Gabriel. Join them as they how Unix and C were once perceived, tradeoffs in software design, and whether or not worse is truly better!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Worse is Betterhttps://www.dreamsongs.com/WorseIsBetter.htmlRise of Worse is Betterhttps://www.dreamsongs.com/RiseOfWorseIsBetter.html----------------00:00 Intro01:37 About the Essays06:18 Thoughts on the Essays15:48 "the right thing" vs "worse is better" or MIT vs New Jersey39:59 Usefulness: Why worse beats better49:41 when worse is worse57:31 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode, Gergely Orosz joins Carter and Nathan to discuss his book The Software Engineer's Guidebook. Join them as Gergely reflects on the differences between writing a book and The Pragmatic Engineer newsletter, the importance of professional networks, and the state of the hiring market today!https://www.pragmaticengineer.com/-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------The Software Engineer's Guidebookhttps://amzn.to/41AxMAL (Paid Link)Thinking in Systems by Donella H. Meadows https://amzn.to/4kGtmkI (Paid Link)Tidy First?: A Personal Exercise in Empirical Software Design by Kent Beckhttps://amzn.to/4bHoNCv (Paid Link)Become an Effective Software Engineering Manager: How to Be the Leader Your Development Team Needs by Dr. James Stanierhttps://amzn.to/4kCzvhD (Paid Link)The Engineering Executive's Primer: Impactful Technical Leadership by Will Larsonhttps://amzn.to/4hpRDIS (Paid Link)----------------00:00 Intro02:11 What inspired you to write the book?08:46 Gaining the Vocabulary and learning on your own13:45 Writing a Newsletter vs Writing a Book22:55 Taking initiative and Embracing Curiosity35:30 Working Remotely and Cultivating Connections41:13 Periodic Effort: Stretching, Executing, and Coasting46:41 Navigating Company Cultures50:05 The Future of Interviews: AI Cheating and the end of the Remote Interviews58:33 How the job market has changed01:05:10 Closing Thoughts Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

This week Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of System Design Interview by Alex Xu. Join them as they discuss how system design interviews prepare you for daily work, what system design questions they've been asked in the past, and their thoughts on Apple Intelligence!Byte Byte Go: https://bytebytego.com/-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------System Design Interview by Alex Xuhttps://amzn.to/4iUR9vg (paid link)----- 00:00 Intro03:30 Thoughts on the Book14:01 Nathan's Favorite Case Study and Thoughts on Take-Home Problems21:23 non sequitur: Applying for Jobs, Recruiters, and Compensation36:03 non sequitur: roasting Apple on how bad Siri is right now.41:57 Carter's favorite case study and New books for the backlog49:07 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode, Carson Gross joins Carter and Nathan to discuss his book Hypermedia Systems Join them as Carson reflects on the process of publishing the book, the development of HTMX, and how to deal with setbacks!John Ousterhout and Bob Martin Conversationhttps://github.com/johnousterhout/aposd-vs-clean-codeFixi.js (a new project from Carson Gross)https://github.com/bigskysoftware/fixiTriptych - New Attributes for HTMLhttps://github.com/alexpetros/triptychHTMXhttps://htmx.org/-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Hypermedia Systemshttps://amzn.to/4iou43T (Paid Link)Philosophy of Software Design by John Ousterhouthttps://amzn.to/4bEVMHp (Paid Link)The Master and Margarita: 50th-Anniversary Edition by Mikhail Bulgakovhttps://amzn.to/3R1pzR3 (Paid Link)Worse is Better (essay)https://www.dreamsongs.com/WorseIsBetter.htmlNo Silver Bullethttps://worrydream.com/refs/Brooks_1986_-_No_Silver_Bullet.pdf----------------00:00 Intro01:47 What Inspired you to write Hypermedia Systems07:37 Challenging Assumptions, Hypermedia, Javascript, and Worse is Better13:51 Roy Fielding, REST, HATEOAS and mispronouncing things.16:15 What is the most surprising outcome of writing Hypermedia Systems?19:42 Creating fixi.js28:32 Discussing Progressive Enhancement, Triptych, and Browser Standards35:40 Dealing with Setbacks and Success41:01 No Silver Bullet, and the Ousterhout and Martin debate50:00 What if No HTMX? Hypercard56:11 Tool chains, debuggers, and developer expectations01:01:29 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

This week Carter and Nathan discuss the first half of System Design Interview by Alex Xu. Join them as they discuss Alex's excellent newsletter Byte Byte Go, how systems design interviews reflect actual jobs, and what tips and tricks Alex offers to ace your interviews!Byte Byte Go: https://bytebytego.com/-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------System Design Interview – An insider's guide by Alex Xu https://amzn.to/3EXFYUa (paid link)Team Topologies by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Paishttps://amzn.to/4kgfH3F (paid link)----------------00:00 Intro01:33 About the Book03:08 Thoughts on the Book11:57 What is a Systems Design Interview?22:15 Why focus on Systems Design Interview?27:26 Our Experience with System Design Interviews36:09 Strategies, Approach, and Expertise40:20 Importance of Back of the Envelope Calculations45:39 Learning through building57:02 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of Team Topologies by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais. Join them as they discuss how teams evolve, when you can tell a team might be reaching its breaking point, and what a company needs beyond the team topologies!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Team Topologies by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Paishttps://amzn.to/4kgfH3F (paid link)----------------00:00 Intro01:26 About the Book03:10 Thoughts on the Book09:20 Team Interaction Modes41:01 Changing Team Structures01:05:04 Final Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first half of Team Topologies by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais. Join them as they discuss the four main types of teams, what teams they've worked on in the past, remote work, and more!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Team Topologies by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Paishttps://amzn.to/4kgfH3F (paid link)----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the back half of Hypermedia Systems by Carson Gross, Adam Stepinski, and Deniz Akşimşek. Join them as they discuss the pros and cons of HTMX, whether or not you should choose it over a more popular framework like React, and more!-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Hypermedia Systems by Carson Gross, Adam Stepinski, and Deniz Akşimşekhttps://amzn.to/3C503GQ (https://amzn.to/4aDjFyD)----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first 200 pages of Hypermedia Systems by Carson Gross, Adam Stepinski, and Deniz Akşimşek. Join them as they discuss HTMX, an alternative to modern JavaScript front-end frameworks, and the philosophies that made Web 1.0 so powerful! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Hypermedia Systems by Carson Gross, Adam Stepinski, and Deniz Akşimşek https://amzn.to/3C503GQ (https://amzn.to/4aDjFyD) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Kent Beck joins Carter and Nathan to discuss his book Tidy First? Join them as Kent reflects on the artistry of programming design, the importance of optionality, and how the Time Value of Money applies to software engineering! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Tidy First? https://amzn.to/4atHiKa (Paid Link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of The Software Engineer's Guidebook by Gergely Orosz. Join them as they discuss work/life balance, project management, and which computer science subreddits to avoid! (We're about 95% sure that Carter recorded with the wrong microphone accidentally, so his audio is a little rough this episode. Sorry!) -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- The Software Engineer's Guidebook by Gergely Orosz https://amzn.to/3C503GQ (paid link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss The Software Engineer's Guidebook by Gergely Orosz. Join them as they discuss software engineering compensation, how to ace your performance reviews, and what "getting things done" means! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- The Software Engineer's Guidebook by Gergely Orosz https://amzn.to/3C503GQ (paid link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this season finale of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan put their memories to the test and see if they can guess which quotes come from which books! Using their custom built Book Overflow Game (game.bookoverflow.io), Carter and Nathan present themselves with a series of quotes from all the books they read and try to identify which book the quote is from! Thank you for a great 2024! We'll see you in January of 2025! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan review their top five books of the year! Join them as they discuss their favorite books, why they cracked the top five, and their thoughts on the first year of Book Overflow! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan review all the promises they made at the end of each episode when they ask each other "What will you do differently in your career as a result of having read this book?" Join them as they review every goal they set, whether or not they kept it, and what they've learned from this year of reading the best technical books in the world! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss The Agile Manifesto, a free-to-read document that has greatly defined the modern software engineering landscape. Join them as they discuss its legacy, how it persists in software engineering today, and whether it was ultimately a good or bad development! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- The Agile Manifesto https://agilemanifesto.org/ ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss The Twelve-Factor App, a free-to-read manifesto on the fundamentals of building a modern web application. Join them as they discuss scalability, statelessness, and the proper way to handle logs! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- The Twelve-Factor App https://12factor.net/ Web Scalability for Startup Engineers by Artur Ejsmont https://amzn.to/3AWkfKp (paid link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Brian Kernighan once again joins Carter and Nathan, this time to discuss his book Unix: A History and a Memoir. Join them as Brian recounts what it was like working at Bell Labs, how it feels to have contributed so much to the world of computing, and whether or not he thinks creating a big idea like Unix is still possible! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Unix: A History and a Memoir https://amzn.to/3YVnlYv (Paid Link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Tidy First? by Kent Beck. Join them as they discuss when you should prioritize tidying your code over feature improvements, what tidying means, and the Beck's thoughts on software and the time value of money! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Tidy First?: A Personal Exercise in Empirical Software Design by Kent Beck https://amzn.to/40uOEtL (paid link) Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code (2nd Edition) by Martin Fowler https://amzn.to/3C9d5mq (paid link) Building Evolutionary Architectures: Automated Software Governance by Neal Ford, Rebecca Parsons, Patrick Kua, Pramod Sadalage https://amzn.to/4fmoIVC (paid link) A Philosophy of Software Design, 2nd Edition by John Ousterhout https://amzn.to/4ecmYgv (paid link) The Practice of Programming by Brian Kernighan, Rob Pike https://amzn.to/4fuMP4b (paid link) ---------------- 00:00 Intro 03:14 About the Book 05:41 Thoughts on the Book 11:17 Techniques and Approaches for Tidying (Part 1) 36:20 How to prioritize and manage tidying tasks (Part 2) 47:30 Optionality, Reversibility and The Philosophy of Tidying (Part 3) 01:05:38 Final Thoughts ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Pramod Sadalage joins Carter and Nathan to discuss his book Building Evolutionary Architectures. Join them as Pramod shares his thoughts on how he became a database expert, the differences between refactoring code and databases, and how AI is affecting how we work with databases! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Building Evolutionary Architectures https://amzn.to/4eoXWuX (Paid Link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Unix: A History and a Memoir by Brian Kernighan. Brian Kernighan, one of the inventors of Unix, discusses in detail how the idea came to be, who the key contributors were, and what about Unix made it so revolutionary. -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Unix: A History and a Memoir by Brian Kernighan https://amzn.to/40bB6mN (paid link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan finish their discussion of The Unicorn Project by Gene Kim. Written in the style of a novel, join them as they discuss how businesses bet big on new ideas, dealing with layoffs, and executive politicking! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- The Unicorn Project by Gene Kim https://amzn.to/3XJFg2u (paid link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Rebecca Parsons joins Carter and Nathan to discuss her book Building Evolutionary Architectures. Join them as Rebecca shares her thoughts on the benefits of abstractions, how the computer science industry has changed during her tenure, and how her academic work on genetic algorithms influenced the book! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Building Evolutionary Architectures https://amzn.to/4eoXWuX (Paid Link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Part Two of The Unicorn Project by Gene Kim. Written in the style of a novel, join them as they discuss the protagonist Maxine's journey of transforming the failing Phoenix Project from a big ball of mud into an agile, efficient architecture! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- The Unicorn Project by Gene Kim https://amzn.to/3XJFg2u (paid link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Martin Fowler joins Carter and Nathan to discuss his book Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code. Join them as Martin shares why he wrote Refactoring, how the art of refactoring has changed, and how he views the book's legacy!https://martinfowler.com/-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code by Martin Fowler and Kent Beckhttps://amzn.to/4enmuox (paid link)The Art of Agile Development, 2nd Edition by James Shore and Shane Wardenhttps://amzn.to/47TiM3D (paid link)Make No Law: The Sullivan Case and the First Amendment by Anthony Lewishttps://amzn.to/3zJ3K3O (paid link)----------------00:00 Intro01:58 Motivation for writing the book09:45 Refactoring, Extreme Programming, and testing19:17 Estimating, Unknowns, and Complexity23:40 Trust and High Performing Teams30:32 refactoring in the wild: imitate, assimilate, innovate, best practices and sensible defaults43:39 Legacy of the book and rational for second edition47:35 What are the role of books now? Evergreen content, Long-form content in a world of short-form content.01:03:21 Book Recommendations01:09:12 Closing Thoughts----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the part one of The Unicorn Project by Gene Kim. Written in the style of a novel, join them as they discuss the protagonist Maxine's journey of being assigned to a failing project, working within a maddening bureaucracy, fighting for easy local development! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- The Unicorn Project by Gene Kim https://amzn.to/3XJFg2u (paid link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of Slow Productivty by MIT-educated computer scientist and productivity expert Cal Newport. Join them as they discuss what it means to work at a natural pace, how to obsess over quality, and the useful tactics Cal Newport recommends to do both! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Slow Produtivity by Cal Newport https://amzn.to/3B6cscM (paid link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups are joined by Neal Ford as he reflects on his book Building Evolutionary Architectures. Join them as they discuss the inspiration for the book, the process of writing it with three other co-authors, and how Neal envisions the future of software architecture! ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Slow Productivty by MIT-educated computer scientist and productivity expert Cal Newport. Join them as they discuss how to avoid burnout, how to balance ambition with stamina, and useful productivity hacks Cal Newport recommends! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- To see a full list of books mentioned in the episode, check the YouTube video description at https://youtu.be/MMzbez42oPg ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Adrienne Braganza joins Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups to reflect on her book, "Looks Good To Me." Join them as they discuss what motivated her to learn so much about code reviews, the process of becoming an author, and what motivated her to become a software engineer in the first place! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Looks Good To Me by Adrienne Braganza https://amzn.to/3AZHTFz Working Effectively With Legacy Code by Michael C. Feathers https://amzn.to/3Xox8UJ You Don't Need a Title to Be a Leader by Mark Sanborn https://amzn.to/3AUWamU Della Fattoria Bread: 63 Foolproof Recipes for Yeasted, Enriched & Naturally Leavened Breads by Kathleen Weber https://amzn.to/4e54QpK The Best Simple Recipes: More Than 200 Flavorful, Foolproof Recipes That Cook in 30 Minutes or Less by America's Test Kitchen https://amzn.to/4efcE8t ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups discuss "Looks Good To Me" by Adrienne Braganza. Join them as they discuss what makes a bad code review, pair programming, AI automation, and more!

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups sit down with Stephen Wolfram to discuss his book What Is ChatGPT Doing... And Why Does It Work? Tune in as he discusses his initial experiments with OpenAI, how his early work in particle physics influenced his current work with LLMs, and his thoughts on if ChatGPT is truly intelligent! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- For a list of books mentioned in this episode, see the episode description at https://youtu.be/Aw7_CBczUD4 ---------------- Original discussion of the book: https://youtu.be/4gyi9UDSzw4 ---------------- https://www.x.com/bookoverflowpod Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan toups discuss "Looks Good To Me" by Adrienne Braganza. Join them as they discuss everything about code reviews, including automation, team procedures, and more! Carter on For Your Amusement: https://youtu.be/rhdyrTXbvlg?si=9csVUrBEWonG40VY To get links to the books mentioned in this episode, check the YouTube episode description at https://youtu.be/8B4_hl2dcow 00:00 Intro 04:30 About the Book 07:04 General Thoughts on the Book 12:49 A high-level overview of code reviews 16:14 Learning together, knowledge-sharing, Jargon, Process, and Automation 27:00 Keys to Effective Code Review Process, Roles, and Expectations 46:07 Tools, Platforms, and Patterns Standards for Code Reviews 01:03:46 Closing Thoughts Tools and technology mentioned in the episode: - Phabricator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phabricator - Phorge (successor to Phabricator) https://we.phorge.it/ - Gerrit https://www.gerritcodereview.com/ - Conventional Commits https://www.conventionalcommits.org/en/v1.0.0/ - Github https://github.com/ - Semantic Versioning (SEMVER) https://semver.org/ Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carl Brown (of the YouTube channel Internet of Bugs) joins Carter and Nathan to share some of his favorite books! Carl is incredibly well read and shares which books have influenced him over his very impressive 35 year career. To get links to the books mentioned in this episode, check the YouTube episode description at https://youtu.be/GL0EE_cv9T0 00:00 Intro 02:17 How did Internet of Bugs come to be? 06:03 Why still read tech books? 08:32 Mythical Man-Month 14:40 Philosophy of Software Design, TCL/TK, 25:56 Advanced Programming in Unix and TCP/IP Illustrated 32:32 How important is it to be well-versed in Unix? 42:27 Freelance, Business, and Consulting book recommendations 52:57 Lightning Round: Managing your programming career, philosophy, and general advice 01:02:34 Final Thoughts

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups discuss "Building Evolutionary Architectures" by Neal Ford, Rebecca Parsons, Patrick Kua, and Pramod Sadalage. Join them as they discuss how to evolve your data schema, modern DevOps practices, and common architectural pitfalls and antipatterns.

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups sit down with Scott Tolinski, the host of the web development podcast Syntax. Join the three of them as they discuss Scott's favorite books, his career as a developer, and what you can learn by being a voracious reader! Links to all the books discussed in the episode can be found in the YouTube episode description: https://youtu.be/kJs9pVy94jM

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan toups discuss "Building Evolutionary Architecture" by Neal Ford, Rebecca Parsons, Patrick Kua, and Pramod Sadalage. Join them as they discuss how the approaches to designing software architecture have changed over the years, the purpose of fitness functions, and how trying to re-use code can backfire!

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups interview Apple Design Award Winner Devin Davies! Devin won the Apple Design Award for his recipe app Crouton, which was featured prominently by the Wall Street Journal for its creative use of the visionOS platform. In keeping with the podcast theme of continuous education, Devin tells the story of how he started Crouton, what he needed to learn to create it, and how he learned it. This episode is a little outside of our usual fare, so please let us know in the comments if you'd like more of them!

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups discuss "Recoding America: Why Government Is Failing in the Digital Age and How We Can Do Better" by Jennifer Pahlka. This book was personally recommended by Brian Kernighan and is about what processes and cultures make government technology so woefully inadequate. Join Carter and Nathan as they discuss agile vs. waterfall, the importance of a good business culture, and possible infringements on civil liberties!

In this very special episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups are joined by the prolific Robert "Uncle Bob" Martin to discuss his book "Clean Coder." Join them as Uncle Bob talks about his thoughts on the "flow zone," humility, and what coding has to do with flying an airplane! Links to all the books mentioned in the episode can be found in the YouTube episode description: https://youtu.be/wf68VDObVX0 00:00 Intro 03:29 Motivation for writing Clean Coder 06:00 Learning from Life Experiences 09:39 Professionalism and the Challenger Story 17:14 Pros and Cons of Flow State (The Zone) 21:10 Learning from your mistakes 24:11 Sobriety (and a story of getting drunk at a party) 30:17 Timeless advice, Professionalism, and saying No 35:39 Blameless Postmortems and taking responsibility 40:03 Agency, Control, Situational Awareness and Culture 43:58 Unconventional career paths and creativity 53:00 Layers of Abstraction 56:16 Thoughts on AI and LLMs 01:00:58 Book Recommendations 01:06:49 Closing Thoughts

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups finish up their discussion of "Web Scalability for Startup Engineers" by Artur Ejsmont. Join them as they discuss caching strategies, async messaging, and managing burnout in your career! Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Michael Feathers joins Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups to reflect on his book "Working Effectively with Legacy Code." Join them as they discuss the pros and cons of TDD, the dangers of AI hallucination, and why Michael became a software engineer!

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups discuss "Web Scalability for Startup Engineers" by Artur Ejsmont. Join them as they discuss how to build a stateless front-end, the benefits of microservices, and the differences between SQL and NoSQL!

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Dr. John Ousterhout joins Carter and Nathan to discuss his book "A Philosophy of Software Design." He reflects on why he wrote the book, how he teaches the principles in it to his Stanford students, and what we can learn from our mistakes. --------------- 00:00 Intro 01:18 Motivation for writing this book 06:17 Why No TAs for Stanford Class 08:55 Thoughts on TDD 14:24 Design it Twice 20:30 Most Surprising Feedback 31:46 Taking suggestions with a grain of salt 33:20 Curiosity and Humility 36:13 Misunderstandings from the book 39:37 Strong opinions, humility, and fear of being wrong 44:35 Unconventional Career Paths 50:13 What are you reading? 51:22 Thoughts on Clean Code 53:50 Advice for new software engineers 58:00 Closing Thoughts

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups discuss the second half of "Working Effectively with Legacy Code" by Michael Feathers. Join them as they discuss how to keep up a good attitude while working on legacy code, how to get started when you're intimidated, and some of the legacy and greenfield projects they've worked on in their careers! ------------ Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://bookoverflow.io https://x.com/bookoverflowpod

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Neal Ford joins the podcast to reflect on his book "Fundamentals of Software Architecture!" Join Carter and Nathan as they discuss the challenges of compromising with the business, what shifts AI is bringing to the software architecture world, and what sci-fi Neal's been reading lately!

Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups read and discuss the first half of "Working Effectively with Legacy Code" by Michael Feathers. Join them as they reflect on dependency inversion, the importance of interfaces, and continue their never-ending debate on the pros and cons of Test-Driven Development! (The audio gets a little de-synced in the last three minutes. Carter isn't talking over Nathan on purpose!) Chapter markers: 00:00 Intro  04:51 Thoughts on the book 10:54 Defining Legacy Code 21:53 Quick Break: Pull Requests 22:38 How to change software 44:30 Quick Break: CI/CD 45:15 Testing Legacy Code 1:15:10 Quick Break: Linting 1:16:01 Closing Thoughts

In this very special episode of Book Overflow, Dr. Brian Kernighan, the author of "The Practice of Programming" joins us to discuss his experience writing the book! Tune in as he talks about his experience at Bell Labs, what it was like co-authoring the book with Rob Pike, his thoughts on LLMs and the future of programming, and more! 00:00 - Intro 02:38 - Why write this book? 12:23 - Working at Bell Labs 16:29 - Life Learning Process 22:33 - What motivates you to write a book?  28:13 - AI and LLMs 35:48 - Layers of Abstraction 37:50 - What excites you about the future? 41:34 - Programmatic Thinking in Humanities 50:13 - Favorite Books 57:39 - Closing Thoughts

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups read and discuss "Clean Coder: A Code of Conduct for Professional Programmers" by Bob Martin. Join them as they discuss what it means to be a professional, how you can say "no" to your boss, and more!

In this very special episode of Book Overflow, Mark Richards joins the podcast to reflect on his book, "Fundamentals of Software Architecture"! Join us as we discuss with Mark what inspired the book, what he wish he had changed, and what he's excited about for the future!

This week Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups finished reading "Fundamentals of Software Architecture" by Mark Richards and Neal Ford. They provide an overview of their favorite architectures from the book as well as discuss the importance of soft skills in selling your technical vision!

This week Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups read the first half of "Fundamentals of Software Architecture" by Mark Richards and Neal Ford. They discuss what exactly software architecture is, how everything is a trade-off, and how we can keep our architectural skills sharp as software engineers. You don't want to miss this great discussion!

Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups discuss Stephen Wolfram's excellent primer on ChatGPT! An incredibly dense work, they briefly summarize its key takeaways, talk about whether or ChatGPT is truly intelligent, and reflect on how their views of the current AI landscape have changed after reading this book. Enjoy!

Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups discuss "Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code" by Martin Fowler. Join them as they talk about the importance of automated testing when refactoring, how to play nice, and how refactoring can be justified as a business consideration!

Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups discuss "A Philosophy of Software Design" by John Ousterhout. Join them as they talk about pulling complexity downward, the importance of code clarity, and the book's subtle rebuttals to Uncle Bob's Clean Code!

In this inaugural episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups discuss "The Practice of Programming" by Brian Kernighan and Rob Pike. Written in 1999, Carter and Nathan discuss its timeless advice around style guides, interfaces, and debugging, as well as reflecting on how the software engineering industry has changed in the 25 years since it's been written.