November 7, 2002: Ancient Civilizations on Mars - Richard C. Hoagland
November 7, 2002: Ancient Civilizations on Mars - Richard C. Hoagland  
Podcast: The Art Bell Archive
Published On: Thu May 22 2025
Description: Art Bell is joined by Richard C. Hoagland for an examination of newly released infrared images from NASA's Odyssey spacecraft orbiting Mars. Hoagland presents side-by-side comparisons of aerial photographs of downtown Cairo and thermal images of the Cydonia region on Mars, arguing the structural similarities point to buried artificial constructions. He contends the grid patterns visible beneath the Martian surface resemble city blocks and building foundations, estimating their age at roughly 300,000 to 500,000 years old based on celestial alignment data.Hoagland alleges that NASA released a nighttime infrared image on Halloween with a falsified acquisition date, presenting geometric evidence that the frame contains more terrain than the officially acknowledged July daytime image. He frames this as proof of a dissident faction within NASA quietly leaking data to circumvent an ongoing cover-up rooted in the 1960 Brookings Institution report, which cautioned against public disclosure of extraterrestrial artifacts.The conversation expands into claims about the Great Pyramid, including reports of radioactive sand found behind drilled walls in the Queen's Chamber passage and evidence of large-scale excavation concealed by replastering. Hoagland connects these threads to his broader thesis that human civilization may have roots in a Martian predecessor culture. The first hour features open lines with callers discussing classified prisoner transport photos, shadow people encounters, and out-of-body experiences.