May 15, 2005: Antigravity and Zero Point Energy - Nick Cook | New Phoenix Lights - Jeff Willes
Podcast: The Art Bell ArchivePublished On: Wed Nov 19 2025
Description: Art Bell opens the program with Jeff Willes, who captured striking new video footage of mysterious lights over Phoenix on May 12, 2005. Willes, who filmed the original 1997 Phoenix Lights and runs UFOs Over Phoenix, describes three lights appearing in a triangular formation before one rapidly skips across the sky at impossible speed. Luke Air Force Base denied any knowledge of the objects when contacted. The program then features Nick Cook, aviation editor for Jane's Defence Weekly and author… Full show notes & guests: https://artbellarchive.org/episode/may-15-2005-antigravity-and-zero-point-energy-nick-cook-new-phoenix-lights-jeff-willes/
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