February 19, 2006: Space, Climate, & UFOs - Robert Zimmerman | Gilliland Ranch Sightings - James Gilliland
Podcast: The Art Bell ArchivePublished On: Sun Dec 21 2025
Description: Art Bell welcomes UFO researcher James Gilliland from his ranch at the base of Mount Adams in Washington state. Gilliland brings multiple witnesses, including aerospace professionals who describe seeing objects that stopped mid-flight, flared brilliantly, then zigzagged into space at impossible speeds. An aviation expert corroborates these accounts, noting that Gilliland seemed to sense the objects before they appeared.Space journalist Robert Zimmerman discusses the emerging private space tourism industry, including Space Adventures' deal with Russia and the United Arab Emirates to build a spaceport and suborbital vehicle. He notes that Virgin Galactic, SpaceX, and Jeff Bezos' venture are racing to offer commercial spaceflight by 2008. Zimmerman criticizes Boeing and Lockheed for forming a non-competitive partnership and praises NASA administrator Michael Griffin for breaking the agency's tradition of understating project costs.The conversation shifts to climate change, where Zimmerman acknowledges that evidence increasingly leans toward global warming but maintains that data remains insufficient for definitive conclusions. Art challenges his skepticism with findings about rising ocean temperatures and shrinking Greenland glaciers. Zimmerman argues that free markets will drive the transition from fossil fuels more effectively than government mandates.
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