December 6, 2003: UFOs and Alternative Energy - Bob Lazar
Podcast: The Art Bell ArchivePublished On: Thu Jul 03 2025
Description: Art Bell opens with legendary gambler Amarillo Slim Preston, who shares outrageous stories from his memoir including making a cat pick up a Coke bottle by wetting sugar on its cap, using identical twins to win a quail-eating bet, and predicting which sugar cube a fly would land on by moistening it. Slim discusses the psychology of poker, why women have not won the World Series, and his belief that gambling will eventually overwhelm the global economy.Bob Lazar returns to discuss his experiences at S4 near Area 51, where he observed nine extraterrestrial craft and worked directly with one described as the sport model. He details the gravity propulsion system that operates by distorting space in front of the craft, creating a condition where it perpetually falls toward a self-generated gravitational point. Lazar explains two flight modes, omicron for local atmospheric travel and delta for interstellar transit, where the craft tilts belly-forward and all three gravity amplifiers focus on a single distant point.Art presses Lazar on disclosure, weapons applications of gravity manipulation technology, and the government's ability to maintain secrecy. Lazar reveals he and partner John Farad own a decommissioned nuclear missile silo near Roswell for undisclosed projects, and that local police once investigated claims he was holding alien hostages underground. He discusses his move to New Mexico to re-enter serious scientific work near Los Alamos and Sandia National Labs.
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