June 6, 2002: Area 51 and UFOs - Bob Lazar
June 6, 2002: Area 51 and UFOs - Bob Lazar  
Podcast: The Art Bell Archive
Published On: Wed Apr 16 2025
Description: Art Bell opens the show amid the buzz surrounding the Amazing Kreskin's UFO prediction for Las Vegas. With a night vision camera pointed at the desert sky, Art takes calls from people gathered at the Kreskin event, where most report seeing only airplanes in the McCarran Airport flight path. The prediction is widely deemed a bust.In the second half of the program, Art welcomes physicist Bob Lazar, who worked on advanced propulsion systems at the secretive S4 facility near Area 51. Lazar describes his recruitment through EG&G after meeting Edward Teller, his first glimpse of a disc-shaped craft sitting in a hangar, and the moment he realized the technology was not of human origin. He details the gravity-wave reactor he handled firsthand, a small device that produced a repulsive force field no object could penetrate.Lazar also discusses his hydrogen-powered car, his jet-engine Honda, and a new film deal with Blue Book Films that promises to tell his story accurately. He reveals that only 22 people had clearance at S4 and confirms he still holds their names privately as verification of the program's existence.