October 5, 2003: Alien Implants & Extraterrestrials - Dr. Roger Leir, Mike Heiser, & Richard C. Hoagland
Podcast: The Art Bell ArchivePublished On: Wed Jun 18 2025
Description: Dr. Roger Leir recounts the years-long investigation of a mysterious claw found embedded in a towel placed to capture alien footprints. Initial DNA analysis returned non-terrestrial results, but further RNA testing ultimately identified it as a slug from New Zealand. Leir uses the story to illustrate proper scientific methodology in phenomenological research and discusses his surgical removal of suspected alien implants that emit electromagnetic fields and contain anomalous metallic compositions.Richard C. Hoagland presents a new pre-dawn infrared image of the Face on Mars taken by the Mars Odyssey spacecraft. He argues the eastern side of the Face shows over 99 percent reflectivity, behaving like a specular mirror rather than natural rock, while surrounding terrain reflects only 7 to 15 percent of light. Hoagland contends this supports his long-held theory that the structure contains manufactured materials and that the eastern side was protected from erosion.Mike Heiser rounds out the program previewing the upcoming God, Man, and ET conference at the University of Wisconsin. He and Hoagland debate whether mainstream theology could accommodate a genuine extraterrestrial reality, with Heiser arguing that medieval theologians already entertained the possibility of other inhabited worlds while acknowledging the explosive implications of discovering human origins tied to Mars.
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