December 27, 2002: Amityville Horror Case - George Lutz
Podcast: The Art Bell ArchivePublished On: Wed Jun 04 2025
Description: Art Bell opens with Richard C. Hoagland for a reflective conversation covering warming across the entire solar system and the symbolic connections between ancient Babylon and the modern push for war with Iraq. Hoagland notes that Baghdad sits on Sumerian ruins and that Saddam Hussein considers himself the reincarnation of Nebuchadnezzar, suggesting ritual motivations behind U.S. foreign policy.George Lutz, the man whose family lived the real Amityville Horror, then joins for an interview Art had sought for his entire career. Lutz describes purchasing the Dutch Colonial home at 112 Ocean Avenue for $80,000, knowing about the DeFeo murders but believing his family could handle it. He details Father Ray Pecoraro's house blessing and the priest's discomfort in the upstairs bedroom where the boys had been killed.Psychic investigator Mary Pascarella calls in to describe her encounters with pure evil inside the home. Lutz confirms experiencing his wife levitating from the bed, Kathy transforming into an elderly woman, mysterious gelatin trails between rooms, persistent flies, black drips from old keyholes, and phantom footsteps. He reveals using humor as a defense against dark intrusive thoughts, confirming that the house attempted to influence him toward violence just as it had Ronald DeFeo.
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