July 3, 2004: Nostradamus and Our Future - John Hogue
Podcast: The Art Bell ArchivePublished On: Fri Aug 29 2025
Description: Art Bell welcomes John Hogue, widely considered the world's foremost authority on Nostradamus, to discuss prophecy, prediction, and the future of civilization. Hogue recalls his November 2000 prediction that a Bush presidency would lead to a ground war in Iraq, drawing parallels to Vietnam. The conversation traces Nostradamus' personal history, from the death of his first wife and children during the plague to his eventual embrace of prophetic vision.Hogue introduces the concept of a "karmic echo," a 40-year cycle linking events of the 1960s to the present day, from disputed elections involving candidates with the initials JFK to Texan presidents entering wars based on questionable intelligence. He identifies the Nostradamus figure Mabus as potentially connected to Osama bin Laden or Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and outlines a prophecy of 27 years of conflict tied to the Third Antichrist.Art and Hogue explore whether the future is predetermined or shaped by human behavior, with Hogue arguing that predictability fades in the 21st century as humanity faces an evolutionary crisis. He points to 2008 as a pivotal window for collective self-examination, warning that failure to break mechanical patterns of thought could threaten civilization itself.
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