September 27, 2003: UFOs and Alien Abductions - David Jacobs
Podcast: The Art Bell ArchivePublished On: Sun Jun 15 2025
Description: Art Bell opens the program with Jose Escamilla to examine new photographic evidence challenging the existence of rods, the mysterious elongated objects Jose has filmed for years. A website called UFO Theater presents compelling images suggesting rods may be insects captured at low shutter speeds, and Jose concedes the evidence is "pretty damning" while defending his high-shutter-speed protocol results.In the second half, Art welcomes abduction researchers Bud Hopkins and Dr. David Jacobs for a wide-ranging discussion on alien-human hybridization. Hopkins introduces his new book Sight Unseen, detailing cases of transgenic beings who appear fully human yet possess telepathic abilities and serve as intermediaries in the abduction process. Jacobs describes a systematic reproductive program involving sperm and egg harvesting, forced breastfeeding of hybrid infants, and staged emotional tests conducted on abductees.The researchers discuss late-stage hybrids who may already be living among humans, holding jobs and forming relationships while remaining conflicted about their loyalties. Jacobs warns that the evidence points toward an integration program whose ultimate purpose remains unclear, and that conscious memories of abductions are almost always distorted without careful hypnotic investigation.
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