February 7, 2004: EVPs - Brendan Cook & Barbara McBeath
Podcast:The Art Bell Archive Published On: Thu Jul 24 2025 Description: Art Bell opens with a surprise guest he kept secret from the network: a man identified only as Chris, claiming to be a former brigadier general in the South African Army, who describes ordering the shoot-down of a UFO in November 1982. Chris says an experimental laser weapon aboard an F-1 Mirage struck a disc-shaped craft traveling at approximately 1,500 miles per hour. After it crashed near Kruger National Park, his team found two small grey beings inside. He says he personally transported the craft and bodies via C-130 to Andrews Air Force Base, corroborating details of Bob Lazar's Area 51 testimony.Brendan Cook and Barbara McBeath of the Ghost Investigators Society then present new electronic voice phenomena recordings from cemeteries, a mortician's home, and other locations. Among the clearest captures is a child's voice saying what sounds like "it's Daddy's car" at a cemetery where a widower parked nightly to visit his wife and son's graves. Another recording captures a female voice warning "tell your friend to run," followed shortly by a second voice saying "please run."Art emphasizes that GIS operates as a non-profit, accepts no money, and has maintained this standard for six years. The discussion explores whether consciousness survives death, with both investigators concluding that ghosts represent people stuck between realms rather than at their final destination.