October 17, 2004: The Skeptic's View - Michael Shermer
Podcast: The Art Bell ArchivePublished On: Sat Sep 27 2025
Description: Art Bell hosts Dr. Michael Shermer, founding publisher of Skeptic magazine, for a spirited debate about the limits of scientific skepticism and the nature of belief. Shermer explains his journey from paranormal believer to professional skeptic after watching James Randi replicate psychic feats, and he outlines how confirmation bias and self-deception fuel belief in the paranormal.The two clash over remote viewing, electronic voice phenomena, quantum mechanics, and whether unexplained anomalies justify serious scientific inquiry. Art challenges Shermer on the vast unknowns of quantum physics and consciousness, while Shermer argues that quantum effects cannot bridge the gap to macro-level phenomena like telepathy. The discussion extends to the power of intercessory prayer, with Shermer questioning the methodology of double-blind prayer studies and Art countering with his own on-air mass consciousness experiments that produced measurable results.Shermer also shares his views on morality without religion, arguing that secular Enlightenment values can sustain ethical behavior independent of faith. The program features updates on Ann Strieber's brain aneurysm surgery, the passing of Betty Hill, and listener reactions to the FCC's approval of broadband over power lines.
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