EP 618: RSL vs. the AI Scrape: Can LLM licensing save the open web?
EP 618: RSL vs. the AI Scrape: Can LLM licensing save the open web?  
Podcast: Everyday AI Podcast – An AI and ChatGPT Podcast
Published On: Thu Sep 25 2025
Description: AI scraping vs. the open web. Who wins? 🥊Let's say the quiet part out loud: AI companies have trained their models for years on your company's website data, regardless of if you want them to. Fast forward to today: many publishers have lost up to 70% of website traffic (and huge chunks of revenue) because of this. So what happens if some of these publications.... die? Then the AI companies have fewer, human-created source material to train future models on. Rut roh. Maybe the Really Simple Licensing protocol can save us all. We talk with RSL Collective Co-founder Doug Leeds on if a new licensing structure can be a win-win-win for publishers, AI companies and end users. You don't wanna miss this one. 👇EP 618: RSL vs. the AI Scrape: Can LLM licensing save the open web?Newsletter: Sign up for our free daily newsletterMore on this Episode: Episode PageJoin the discussion on LinkedIn: Thoughts on this? Join the convo on LinkedIn and connect with other AI leaders.Upcoming Episodes: Check out the upcoming Everyday AI Livestream lineupWebsite: YourEverydayAI.comEmail The Show: info@youreverydayai.comConnect with Jordan on LinkedInTopics Covered in This Episode:The Open Web Threat from AI OverviewsDecline in Website Traffic Due to AIProblems with Current Web Content LicensingDoug Leeds’ Publishing Industry BackgroundIntroduction to Really Simple Licensing (RSL)How RSL Web Standard Enables LicensingRSL Collective Blanket License ModelImpact of RSL on AI Search ResultsBig Publishers’ Participation in RSL CollectiveBenefits for AI Companies Licensing ContentAddressing AI Hallucinations with Licensed DataCollective Enforcement Against Content ScrapingLegal and Economic Sustainability for PublishersTimestamps:00:00 "Threat to the Open Web?"06:08 "Edgar Walter's Web Innovations"09:10 "RSL Collective: Unified Web Licensing"12:37 "Join RSL Collective Initiative"15:56 RSL Collective: Monetizing Content Access19:47 "RSL Collective: AI Publishing Solution?"20:34 Human-Led Training Enhances AI Quality23:52 "Sustainable AI: A Hopeful Future"Keywords:Really Simple Licensing, RSL, open web, AI licensing, content licensing, online publishing, search engines, AI overviews, large language models, content rights, machine readable licenses, robots.txt, AI web crawlers, content monetization, publisher ecosystem, website traffic, ASCAP model, collective rights organization, AI abstracts, blanket license, RSL Collective, creative commonsSend Everyday AI and Jordan a text message. (We can't reply back unless you leave contact info)