Podcast:The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima Published On: Mon Jun 01 2026 Description: Ken and Nick sit with the gut punch of it all, running through the full history of Cleveland's quarterback failures from Tim Couch to Deshaun Watson and landing on the uncomfortable truth that trading Garrett would mean starting the cycle all over again less than a decade after the team bottomed out specifically to draft him. Nick makes a genuinely sharp point that separates this rebuild from the 2016 and 2017 dark days, arguing that at least this roster has identifiable talent on it, which makes blowing it up feel different and somehow worse than when the cupboard was completely bare. Ken keeps circling back to the return, floating the idea of two first rounders and a young player like Jared Verse, and acknowledging that if the haul is anything short of overwhelming, this is going to be a very hard thing to defend. The Kansas City comparison lingers over everything, because the reason the Chiefs can let good players walk is that they have Mahomes, and the Browns have been searching for that answer since 1999.