Brazil is an Alternate Universe (with Cristina Tardaguila)
Podcast: The Rip CurrentPublished On: Wed Oct 22 2025
Description: My recent trip to Brazil happened to coincide with the trial of former president Jair Bolsonaro, and ever since I’ve been looking for the right person to explain how it is that a former military dictatorship is now the kind of democracy that actually brings a former leader to account. In this episode, Cristina Tardaguila, founder of the fact-checking organization Lupa, describes the rise and conviction of former President Jair Bolsonaro, the impact of misinformation, and the growing (and now perhaps unstoppable) influence of China and Russia in Brazil. Cristina shares insights into the creation and evolution of Lupa, the complexities of Brazilian democracy, and the economic and political dynamics shaping the nation’s complicated future.00:00 US Diplomacy and Brazil’s Geopolitical Landscape02:17 Introduction to Lupa and Cristina Tardaguila02:48 The Rise of Fact-Checking in Brazil05:09 Global Populism and Bolsonaro’s Influence07:02 The Hate Cabinet and Techno-Populism10:56 Lupa’s Evolution and Business Model12:58 COVID-19 and the Fight Against Misinformation16:46 The Why of Disinformation27:12 Bolsonaro’s Political Journey and Impact33:52 The Aftermath of January 8th, 202334:40 Reflecting on the Insurrection41:25 The Trial and Conviction of Bolsonaro47:56 Brazil’s Political Future51:49 China’s Influence in Brazil59:48 Conclusion and Final Thoughts This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.theripcurrent.com/subscribe
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