The Science of the Flow: Mattsuuii & Complex
The Science of the Flow: Mattsuuii & Complex  
Podcast: Mattsuuii's Hip Hop Talk Shop
Published On: Mon Apr 27 2026
Description: Summary• Introduction and Background of Complex ◦ Mattsuuii introduces the episode and guest, Complex, a hip hop artist from Long Beach now residing in the Inland Empire, California. ◦ Complex introduces himself, mentioning his nomadic upbringing, moving between Long Beach, Texas, and the Inland Empire. ◦ Complex discusses his upbringing, mentioning his parents' influence and his juvenile record, which is sealed due to minor offenses. ◦ Suuii shares his own experiences with the law, including a wrongful conviction for manslaughter and multiple shootings and stabbings.• Early Influences and Writing Skills ◦ Complex talks about his early interest in writing, starting with poetry in seventh grade, and his natural talent for reading and wordplay. ◦ Matt shares his background, mentioning his father's influence as a songwriter and his own early interest in music, inspired by the rock band Rush. ◦ Both discuss their extensive knowledge of literary devices and their dedication to mastering wordplay and lyricism. ◦ Complex mentions his late start in releasing music and his preference for organic promotion over viral fame.• First Projects and Collaborations ◦ Complex discusses his first project, "Insane Clinical," released about 12 years ago with a group called Altered Minds. ◦ Suuii shares his experience starting his own record label, Way 2 Guud Entertainment, and his collaborations with artists from various countries. ◦ Complex talks about his collaborations with local and international artists, including a song with Krizz Kaliko and various other collaborations. ◦ Both discuss their experiences with engineering and production, with Mattsuuii offering his expertise in sound engineering.• Views on Rap vs. Hip Hop ◦ Suuii asks Complex about his views on the difference between rap and hip hop. ◦ Complex describes rap as a secondary art form, often driven by commercial success, while hip hop is the original culture, encompassing dance, beatboxing, and more. ◦ Both agree that true hip hop evokes emotions and tells stories, while rap is often more about making money. ◦ Complex mentions his upcoming project, "Members Only," aimed at true hip hop fans who appreciate the art form.• Defining True Artistry ◦ Mattsuuii asks Complex about his definition of true artistry. ◦ Complex emphasizes the sacrifice and dedication to the craft, mentioning artists like Nas, Big Daddy Kane, and Tupac as examples of true artistry. ◦ Both discuss the importance of authenticity and emotional connection in true artistry, whether in music or other forms of art. ◦ Complex mentions his upcoming project, "Members Only," as an example of his commitment to true hip hop.• Collaboration and Future Plans ◦ Suuii and Complex discuss potential collaborations, with Matt offering to write and produce tracks for Complex. ◦ Complex mentions his busy schedule as a full-time father, husband, and entrepreneur, but expresses interest in future collaborations. ◦ Both discuss their shared love for custom jerseys. ◦ Complex shares his social handles and email for future collaboration and mentions his upcoming projects and collaborations.