Don't Clean Code! with Creator of HTMX
Podcast: The Standup with ThePrimeagenPublished On: Tue May 27 2025
Description: Twitch https://twitch.tv/ThePrimeagen Discord https://discord.gg/ThePrimeagen☕ ssh terminal.shop📘 Carson’s book: https://hypermedia.systems 🧠 Grug Brained Dev: https://grugbrain.devTimestamps:0:00 Intro & chaos before the call1:45 Meet Carson Gross (HTMX creator & professor)3:29 What is "Coding Dirty"?5:12 Why Carson hates small methods7:24 The myth of clean code and method size10:06 What the data actually says about long functions13:11 Why abstraction is not free15:06 Long vs short functions: maintainability & changeability18:00 Why small functions make debugging harder21:34 Beautiful at any size: the case for fat functions24:19 The myth of good naming solving complexity26:55 TDD, unit tests, and when they help vs hurt35:39 End-to-end testing: the good, the bad, the bloated43:23 Meme culture, cringe, and developer humor
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