When Do You Worry About Secondary Pitches?
When Do You Worry About Secondary Pitches?  
Podcast: Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball
Published On: Thu May 15 2025
Description: Eno, Trevor, and DVR discuss a few of the 16 'other' baseball figures reinstated by MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred this week including Shoeless Joe Jackson and several members of the 1919 White Sox, and when 'bad' secondary pitches become a problem by looking at six pitchers whose fastballs currently exceed the quality of their breaking and off-speed offerings. Rundown1:05 The 'Other' 16 Reinstated by Commissioner Rob Manfred12:50 No, Oyster Burns Wasn't Banned for Life15:31 When Are 'Bad' Secondaries A Problem?19:46 Robbie Ray's Limited Arsenal22:20 An Attempt to Understand Bryan Woo's Success & Splits33:13 The Andrew Heaney Odyssey40:05 We're Still Puzzled by Taj Bradley; Is It All Linked to Poor Command?53:01 Do Ownership Blueprints Come From Ownership's Approach to Other Businesses?Related ReadingSABR's Eight Myths Out: https://sabr.org/eight-myths-outMatt Moret on the 'other' 16: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6354320Zach Buchanan's 2019 Story 'A cold case, not a closed case: The baseball obsessives correcting the record about the 1919 Black Sox Scandal': https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1260436 Follow Eno on Bluesky: @enosarris.bsky.socialFollow DVR on Bluesky: @dvr.bsky.socialFollow Trevor on Bluesky: @iamtrevormay.bsky.sociale-mail: ratesandbarrels@gmail.comJoin our Discord: https://discord.gg/FyBa9f3wFeSubscribe to The Athletic: theathletic.com/ratesandbarrelsHosts: Derek VanRiper & Eno SarrisWith: Trevor MayProducer: Brian SmithExecutive Producer: Derek VanRiper Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.