Felix is an expert at using Claude Code and Figma MCP to design and build apps. Watch as he demos how you can build apps that look exactly like their Figma designs, build a game from a FigJam flow cart, and convert code back to Figma components that you can tweak.Felix and I talked about:(00:00) 3 products Felix designed and built in Claude Code(06:36) Building an animated world map from a screenshot(7:50) Felix's app that analyzes how good your landing page is(13:17) Demo: Figma design to working website in 15 min(23:07) Demo: FigJam flowchart to a working game(31:30) A UX reviewer skill for design feedback(40:19) How to export code back to Figma as editable designs(45:10) Why most designers aren't adapting fast enoughThanks to our sponsors:Linear: The AI agent platform for modern teams https://linear.app/behind-the-craftGranola: The AI meeting notes app that saves you hours. https://granola.ai/peterReplit: From 0 to full stack app in 2 min https://replit.com/?utm_source=creator&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=creator_program&utm_content=peteryangGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/master-claude-code-figma-mcp-for-design-felix-leeWhere to find Felix:X: https://x.com/felixleezdWebsite: https://adplist.org/📌 Subscribe to this channel - more interviews coming soon!

Geoff is the CPO of Ramp and runs one of the most AI-native orgs I’ve seen. He showed me an amazing Claude Code PM skill that his team uses to go from idea to product and shared live demos of Ramp’s internal AI agents for customer research, data analysis, and more. Geoff also shared 5 specific tactics Ramp followed to go from barely anyone using AI to non-engineers shipping production code.Geoff and I talked about:(00:00) "If you're not using Claude Code, you're probably underperforming"(04:45) Voice of customer agent (demo): 8 days of research in 8 minutes(07:57) Analyst agent (demo): Get insights and pull data using English(13:08) The best Claude Code PM skill I've ever seen(15:20) "50% of Ramp's code is written AI. It'll probably be 80% soon."(16:38) Inspect agent (demo): Building a production feature in 5 min(28:21) The two directions the PM role is splitting into(34:05) Ramp's L0-L3 framework for getting every employee to build with AI(36:36) The AI interview question Ramp asks every PM candidate(39:15) "Management is probably dead...optimize to be the best builder in the world."Thanks to our sponsors:Linear: The AI agent platform for modern teams https://linear.app/behind-the-craftGranola: The AI meeting notes app that saves you hours. https://granola.ai/peterReplit: From 0 to full stack app in 2 min https://replit.com/?utm_source=creator&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=creator_program&utm_content=peteryangGet the takeaways and the PM skill: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/inside-ramp-the-32b-company-ai-agents-geoff-charlesWhere to find Geoff:X: https://x.com/geoffintechWebsite: https://ramp.com/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Tom is the CEO of Pencil, one of the coolest AI design tools that I’ve ever tried. Watching 6 AI agents design a beautiful app in real-time will genuinely blow your mind. Tom showed me how it all works under the hood (a simple JSON file?!) and how you can use Pencil to design right where you code in Cursor, Claude Code, and more.Tom and I talked about:(00:00) Watch 6 AI agents design an app together(03:09) Demo: Designing a travel app with an AI agent swarm(08:20) Redesigning screens in different styles on the fly(13:20) The Pencil extension that turns Cursor into a design tool(15:07) One prompt to go from visual design to React website(19:00) Using design systems to keep your AI output consistent(22:02) From side project to 100K users in 8 weeks(27:44) Why vibe coding reminds Tom of the Flash era(30:05) Humanizing AI with cursors, craft, and personalityThanks to our sponsors:Linear: The AI agent platform for modern teams https://linear.app/behind-the-craftGranola: The AI meeting notes app that saves you hours. https://granola.ai/peterReplit: From 0 to full stack app in 2 min https://replit.com/?utm_source=creator&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=creator_program&utm_content=peteryangGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/i-watched-6-ai-agents-design-an-app-in-real-time-tom-krchaWhere to find Tom:X: https://x.com/tomkrchaWebsite: https://www.pencil.dev/Subscribe to this channel - more interviews coming soon!

Carl has gone deeper on Claude Code than any product leader that I know. He showed me exactly how to connect Claude Code to Google Workspace, Slack, Reddit, and Linear to get work done without opening any of these other apps. Watch as he demos how to prep for meetings, update tickets, and post Slack updates all from the terminal.Carl and I talked about:(00:00) Why you should connect Claude Code to your apps(02:01) Google Workspace: Using Claude to prep for meetings(09:35) Linear: Creating tickets from PRD(13:16) Slack: Sharing status updates from terminal(20:04) Reddit: Monitoring subreddit discussions(21:47) The daily-standup command that pulls from multiple tools(25:08) The folder setup Carl uses for his Claude Code OS(33:36) The consult-the-council skill that works with multiple AI agents(35:50) How to get Claude Code to generate system design diagramsThanks to our sponsors:Linear: The AI agent platform for modern teams https://linear.app/behind-the-craftGranola: The AI meeting notes app that saves you hours. https://granola.ai/peterReplit: From 0 to full-stack app in 2 min https://replit.com/?utm_source=creator&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=creator_program&utm_content=peteryangGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/connect-claude-code-to-google-slack-reddit-carl-vellottiWhere to find Carl:X: https://x.com/carlvellottiWebsite: https://ccforpms.com/GitHub: https://github.com/carlvellotti/carls-product-osSubscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Nat gave his OpenClaw bot, Felix, $1,000 to build its own business 3 weeks ago. Since then, it’s made $14,718 by launching its own website, info product, and X account. Nat walked through exactly how he set up his OpenClaw bot to run its own business — from the 3-layer memory system, to multi-threaded chats, to security best practices.Nat and I talked about:(00:00) Meet Felix: The OpenClaw bot building its own business(03:49) “I’m going to sleep. Build a product that makes me money.”(08:03) How to set up multiple OpenClaw chats to build 5 projects at once(11:06) How Felix is able to ignore prompt injections on X/Twitter(14:42) The wild story of how Felix ended up with $100K+ in crypto(17:24) The 3-layer memory system that makes it all work(22:14) Heartbeat, cron jobs, and delegating to Codex(26:41) Ask this question to make your OpenClaw bot more capable(32:14) Recap: how to set up your own bot to build a businessThanks to our sponsors:Linear: The AI agent platform for modern teams https://linear.app/behind-the-craftGranola: The AI meeting notes app that saves you hours. https://granola.ai/peterReplit: From 0 to full stack app in 2 min https://replit.com/?utm_source=creator&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=creator_program&utm_content=peteryangGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/use-openclaw-to-build-a-business-that-runs-itself-nat-eliasonWhere to find Nat:X: https://x.com/nateliasonFelix on X: https://x.com/felixcraftaiWebsite: https://felixcraft.aiSubscribe to this channel - more interviews coming soon!

Eno is the co-founder of Factory and the most AI-native founder I know. He gave me a live demo of how he builds apps with AI agents, but what really blew my mind was his product management skill that writes PRDs, prioritizes features, and much more. We also had some real talk about competing in the white hot AI coding space.Eno and I talked about:(00:00) What makes Droid different from other AI agents(03:46) Live demo: Building a speed reading app from meeting notes(08:11) The difference between spec mode and plan mode(12:04) How real engineers use AI agents vs vibe coders(16:33) Skills vs MCPs vs hooks: When to use each one(19:02) Eno's PM skill that completely blew my mind (22:46) Why Factory hires product engineers vs. PMs(27:09) How a 40-person team competes with Cursor and AnthropicThanks to our sponsors:Linear: The AI agent platform for modern teams. https://linear.app/behind-the-craftGranola: The AI meeting notes app that saves you hours. https://granola.ai/peterReplit: From 0 to full stack app in 2 min. https://replit.com/?utm_source=creator&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=creator_program&utm_content=peteryangGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/full-tutorial-use-ai-agents-for-coding-and-product-eno-reyesWhere to find Eno:X: https://x.com/EnoReyesWebsite: https://factory.ai/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Kieran my favorite Claude Code power user and teacher. In our interview, he walked through his Compound Engineering system that makes Claude Code better every time you use it. This same system has been embraced by the Claude Code team and others. Kieran is like Morpheus introducing me to the matrix, so don’t miss this episode 🙂Kieran and I talked about:(00:00) The compound engineering loop: Plan, work, assess, compound(03:40) Live demo: The /workflows command to plan your app(13:25) How to use Claude Skills as just-in-time context(25:27) Why you should always ask Claude to ask you questions first(30:00) Live demo: Using Playwright MCP as your AI QA team(35:03) Code reviews by AI agents playing security, architect, and more(40:33) The LFG command: one prompt to go from 0 to production(46:39) Slash commands vs sub-agents vs skills — when to use eachGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-to-make-claude-code-better-every-time-kieran-klaassenWhere to find Kieran:X: https://x.com/kieranklaassenWebsite: https://cora.computer/GitHub: https://github.com/EveryInc/compound-engineering-plugin📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Peter is the creator of OpenClaw (formerly Molt - the name keeps changing 😅), the hottest AI right now with 2M visitors in a week. In our interview, Peter shared is personal favorite use cases including using Claw to check in to flights, control his home, and more. We also talked about his hot takes such as no plan mode or MCPs.Peter and I talked about:(00:00) “It’s like having a new weird friend that lives on your computer”(03:43) “It sent me a voice message but I never set that up”(09:04) How to install OpenClaw in one line(14:53) “It watched my security camera all night and found this”(16:07) Using OpenClaw to check in flights, change lights, and adjust his bed(19:42) Why 80% of your phone apps will disappear(22:20) Peter’s AI coding hot takes: No plan mode, MCPs suck, and more(36:56) The way to learn AI is to playThanks to our sponsors:Linear: The AI agent platform for modern teams https://linear.app/behind-the-craftGranola: The AI meeting notes app that saves you hours. granola.ai/peterReplit: From 0 to full stack app in 2 min https://replit.com/?utm_source=creator&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=creator_program&utm_content=peteryang 📌 Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-openclaws-creator-uses-ai-peter-steinbergerWhere to find Peter:X: https://x.com/steipeteWebsite: https://openclaw.ai/Subscribe to this channel - more tutorials coming soon!

Logan is the Product Lead for Google AI Studio. I got him to give us an inside look at how he uses AI Studio to build AI Studio (very meta) and how his team ships at startup speed inside Google. AI Studio is the feature that I rely on the most to do my product job better, so don't miss this tutorial.Logan and I talked about:(00:00) Tour of Google AI Studio's Build mode(06:29) Live demo: Building a social media content generator(09:31) How Logan uses AI Studio to build AI Studio(11:34) Cloning the AI Studio UI in 68 seconds(12:58) Getting AI to show you 5-6 design options in one UI(17:20) Live demo: Building a restaurant finder with Google Maps(21:12) Using annotate mode to give visual feedback(34:09) "There's one mode and the mode is we ship fast"(36:00) What Logan looks for when hiring PMsThanks to our sponsors:Linear: The AI agent platform for modern teamshttps://linear.app/behind-the-craftReplit: From 0 to full stack app in 2 min https://replit.com/?utm_source=creator&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=creator_program&utm_content=peteryang 📌 Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/master-google-ai-studio-for-prototyping-logan-kilpatrickWhere to find Logan:X: https://x.com/OfficialLoganKWebsite: https://aistudio.google.com/appsSubscribe to this channel - more interviews coming soon!

Sumeet is the Head of Data at Brex and came personally recommended by the Claude Code team. In our episode, he showed me how to use Claude Code to build a data explorer that lets anyone ask questions and get insights without writing a single SQL query. If you’re tired of analyzing data manually, then this interview is a must-watch.Summit and I talked about:(00:00) How to make Claude Code your data analyst(03:04) Analyzing data with AI: Monitor → Explore → Craft → Impact(10:23) Live demo: Building a startup funding MCP with 3 queries(21:10) Context management: Why your data agent gets confused(26:04) How to connect Claude to Slack and Drive for context(35:00) Demo: Predicting which AI startups will get Series B funding(41:32) Brex stats on which AI coding tools are actually winningGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/build-an-ai-data-analyst-with-claude-code-sumeetWhere to find Sumeet:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smarwaha/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Tal and Aman are experienced AI PMs so I made us all share our favorite AI product workflows — from writing strategy docs to prototyping with Google AI Studio to building a personal task system with Claude Code. Watch this episode if you want to see 5 real no-BS AI product workflows in 50 minutes.We talked about:(00:00) Our best AI workflows for product work(01:13) Demo 1: Writing strategy docs with Claude Projects(10:21) Demo 2: Prototyping a new feature with Google AI Studio(17:10) Demo 3: Building an AI thinking partner with Obsidian + Cursor(24:06) Demo 4: Managing tasks with Linear MCP(29:01) Demo 5: Building a personal OS with Claude Code and skills(40:06) Context engineering 101 from Aman(48:54) Summary and how you can start todayThanks to our sponsors:Korey: The AI Agent for product developmenthttps://www.korey.ai/Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/full-course-the-ai-stack-we-use-for-prototyping-strategy-personal-os-aman-talWhere to find:Tal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/talsraviv/Aman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanberkeley/Aman's personal OS Github: https://github.com/amanaiproduct/personal-os📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Teresa is a well-known product coach and author who runs her entire life and business using two Claude Code terminals and a note taking app. It was genuinely mind blowing to watch her use Claude Code to manage her to do list, delegate her research, and write content.Teresa and I talked about:(00:00) Why Teresa uses Claude Code to run her life(03:00) Live demo: The "today" command that builds Teresa's daily to do list(07:00) Working with Claude Code to brainstorm tasks and ideas(14:00) Live demo: Writing a blog post together using plan mode(21:00) How Claude does SEO keyword research for blog posts(26:00) Why Teresa still writes every word herself (but 10x faster)(30:00) Pro tips to manage context so Claude doesn't "get dumber"(36:00) The 3-layer context system: global, project, and reference files(44:00) 3 tips to get started with Claude Code without feeling overwhelmedThanks to our sponsors:Optimizely: The agent orchestration platform for marketing https://www.optimizely.com/ai/Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/build-your-personal-os-with-claude-code-teresa-torresWhere to find Teresa: LInkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teresatorres/Website: https://www.producttalk.org/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Yana is Head of AI at Amplitude and a good friend. We had some real talk about how to stay scrappy inside a big company, including how to avoid decision by committee and endless internal debates. Yana also demoed her favorite AI workflows to triage her emails and aggregate customer feedback. I think you’ll love our banter 😅Yana and I talked about:(00:00) "By the time you've debated 2 ideas, I've already shipped 10"(03:21) Think "how would I run this company?" not "what's my job?"(05:22) Why we banned decisions by committee(08:25) Cross-functional now means doing the work, not coordinating it(11:22) Why frustrated users can become your biggest advocates(15:19) Live demo: Using ChatGPT Atlas to triage emails and defuse emotional ones(24:38) AI is still terrible at prompting (and what you can do about it)(28:48) Live demo: Combining qualitative feedback with quantitative data(37:38) Why AI analytics is lagging (and what needs to change)Thanks to our sponsors:Optimizely: The agent orchestration platform for marketing https://www.optimizely.com/ai/Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/a-founders-playbook-for-shipping-10x-faster-with-ai-yana-welinderWhere to find Yana: X: https://x.com/yanatweetsWebsite: https://amplitude.com/ai-feedback?utm_campaign=fy25q4-ai-feedback-launch&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=organic-social&utm_content=creator-economy📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

As VP of Alexa, Daniel builds product for 600M Alexa devices. He had a great answer to my tough question: “Why has it taken so long to add AI to Alexa?” and then gave a live demo of what an AI-powered Alexa looks like. We also had a great chat about how to apply Amazon’s working backwards process to build useful AI products.Daniel and I talked about:(00:00) The real reason Amazon delayed adding AI to Alexa(03:21) Live demo: Alexa uses AI to book Warriors tickets under $100(09:21) Which AI model(s) power Alexa behind the scenes?(11:50) How to build AI products using Amazon's PR/FAQ process(18:30) Speed vs quality: When to ship fast vs when to wait(23:00) Why Amazon pairs "invent" and "simplify" together(26:00) The future of AI voice assistants beyond your homeThanks to our sponsors:Amplitude: See all your feedback in one place https://amplitude.com/ai-feedback?utm_campaign=fy25q4-ai-feedback-launch&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=organic-social&utm_content=creator-economyLinear: The best platform for AI agents https://linear.app/partners/behind-the-craftGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/an-inside-look-at-what-alexa-can-do-with-aiWhere to find Daniel:X: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielrausch/Website: http://alexa.amazon.com/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Xinran is a top AI instructor who has taught 100s of product teams how to design and prototype with AI. He shared 5 practical techniques to avoid generating AI slop — from side-by-side exploration to reverse prompting to component libraries — that you can start trying today. If you want to level up on AI prototyping, this is a must watch.Xinran and I talked about:(00:00) The 5 gaps in vibe coding that lead to generic designs(04:28) [Step 1] Custom GPT generates perfect specs before prompting(12:04) [Step 2] Magic Patterns canvas for side-by-side iteration tracking(15:56) [Step 3] Inspiration command generates 4 unique designs instantly(20:45) [Step 4] Mix-match components across prototypes with Subframe(24:10) [Step 5] Toggle between AI mode and manual design editing(28:34) Reverse prompting: Make AI extract your design system(32:19) Pair component libraries with instructions to avoid AI slopGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/a-proven-5-step-system-to-prototype-apps-with-ai-xinran-maWhere to find Xinran:Newsletter: https://designwithai.substack.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmaxinran/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Tanay is the CEO and co-founder of Wispr Flow, my favorite app to dictate to AI 10x faster than typing. I asked him to do a live tutorial on how to get the most out of AI voice dictation, how his brain-to-text device reads your thoughts without speaking, and how he built an AI product that has 70% annual retention (unheard of!) by NOT focusing on ARR.Tanay and I talked about:(00:00) Why typing 5 hours a day is killing your productivity(06:29) Live tutorial: Using voice to draft emails, write code, and more(09:19) The brain-to-text device that reads your thoughts without speaking(16:24) How to teach Wispr Flow your writing style across every app(22:05) Why Tanay studies gaming instead of software for inspiration(29:03) "I told my board: We're killing ARR as our North Star metric"(31:36) Why "agents" is the dumbest term in AI (and what matters instead)(35:55) What motivated young Tanay to steal his mom's laptop to code Thanks to our sponsors:Bolt: Create stunning apps and website with AI https://bolt.fyi/peter-yangLinear: The best platform for agents https://linear.app/partners/behind-the-craftGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/full-tutorial-how-to-use-voice-ai-to-write-and-code-faster-wispr-flow-tanay Where to find Tanay:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tankots/Get Wispr Flow: https://ref.wisprflow.ai/peter-yang📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

As the head of design at Cursor, Ryo is at the cutting edge of designers who ship code instead of mocks. He showed me how he built a retro OS with AI and did a live demo of adding a new feature using Cursor’s new agent mode. We also covered how to avoid AI design slop and how the Cursor team reached $29B valuation without full-time PMs.Ryo and I talked about:(00:00) Why designers should go directly to code(02:06) Building a retro calculator app in one shot with plan mode(08:04) How Ryo manages multiple AI agents at once in Cursor(15:18) How Cursor builds without PMs and who does the PM work instead(16:43) How to avoid creating purple AI design slop (it’s not prompting)(20:01) Inside RyOS: A beautiful retro operating system built with AI(30:22) How to turn vague ideas into detailed specs with Cursor(37:47) The fastest way for PMs and designers to learn CursorThanks to our sponsors:Reforge: AI prototyping tool for product builders - https://reforge.com/peterLinear: The best platform for AI agents - https://linear.app/partners/behind-the-craftGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/design-to-code-with-cursor-head-of-design-ryo-luWhere to find Rio:X: https://x.com/ryolu_Website: https://ryo.lu/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Ami is the one of my favorite product leaders, period. In my new episode, she breaks down why shipping fast beats the best strategy, how to build simple products that win, how to ask AI for brutally honest feedback, and more. Ami led product at Faire and WhatsApp, but above all she just has great, practical advice for all builders.Ami and I talked about:(00:00) Why perfect strategy + poor execution = a waste of time(05:21) The ChatGPT prompt to get brutally honest feedback (11:19) Do the simple thing first (build for the most tired person)(16:51) The one question Ami asks to test every product decision(25:35) Why your annual plan is probably a waste of time(32:40) How to short-circuit slow approval processes as a PM(36:47) Ami's Monday ritual to protect her calendar for deep work(42:01) The future of PM: Jack-of-all-trades utility players(46:36) Parenting in the AI era and how to teach resilienceThanks to our sponsors:Composio: Use AI to take action across 500 apps https://getrube.link/peterLinear: Try the platform for AI agents https://linear.app/partners/behind-the-craftGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/7-counterintuitive-lessons-from-whatsapp-head-of-product-ami-voraWhere to find Amy:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amvora/Newsletter: https://amivora.substack.com/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Colin has taught 1000s of students how to build SaaS apps with AI. In this episode, he showed me exactly why my vibe coded prototype was insecure and how to convert it into a real SaaS app with auth, payments, and more. If you want to learn to build SaaS apps in 40 minutes with Cursor and Claude Code, then this episode is for you.Colin and I talked about:(00:00) The 7 components that every real SaaS app needs(01:44) Client, server, database: What most prototypes miss(08:57) Live demo: Adding Stripe, auth, and databases to my photo app(16:45) Why starting with templates beats prompting from scratch(20:30) The Supabase security flaw in most vibe coded apps(25:35) Why AI shouldn't touch your database directly(35:00) 4-steps to ship a real SaaS app that people will pay for(38:15) Why tech credentials no longer matter (and what does instead)Thanks to our sponsors:Composio: Use AI to take action across 500 apps https://getrube.link/peterLinear: Try the platform for AI agents https://linear.app/partners/behind-the-craftGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/full-tutorial-turn-your-prototype-into-a-real-saas-app-ai-colin-matthewsWhere to find Colin:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colinmatthews-pm/Course: https://maven.com/tech-for-product/vibe-code-your-next-side-project📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Wade is the co-founder and CEO of Zapier. We’re both sick of everyone calling everything an “AI agent” so we had some real talk about what actually works instead. Wade gave me a practical demo of his AI workflow that triages 100+ emails to 10 and shared exactly how to find automation opportunities on your calendar.Wade and I talked about:(00:00) Why most people asking for agents actually want workflows(01:25) The AI automation spectrum explained with real examples(05:16) Live demo: Wade's email agent that triages 100+ emails down to 10(13:27) The difference between APIs vs MCPs(18:52) Making Zapier AI-first: Why the CEO memo isn’t enough(24:08) Wade's response to AI influencers saying "RIP Zapier"(32:09) How Zapier tests for AI fluency in job interviews(35:31) How to identify what to automate with AI in your calendarThis episode is brought to you by Vellum.Use the code AIAGENTS25 to get 25% off your first 3 months with Vellum: https://vellum.ai/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=PeterYangPodcast📌 Get my top 10 takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/ai-agents-clearly-explained-in-40-minutes-zapier-wade-fosterWhere to find Wade:X: https://x.com/wadefosterWebsite: https://zapier.comSubscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Everyone calls their AI product an “agent” but Notion’s actually live up to the hype. It took Akshay (Notion’s co-founder) and Ryan (AI lead) 2 years of failure to build agents that can create databases, respond to Slack, and more. We had a great chat about their most surprising lessons from building the best AI agents for work.We talked about:(00:00) What it really took to build agents that actually work (01:38) Live demo: Watch a database build itself in real-time (04:56) How Akshay writes docs by just talking to AI 90% of the time (20:15) The real difference between AI slop and useful AI agents (34:43) Personalizing agents with custom memory and instructions (39:59) Live demo: Building a custom Notion agent for Slack (49:03) What Notion looks for when hiring AI-native buildersGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-notion-built-the-best-ai-agents-for-work-akshay-ryanWhere to find:Akshay: https://x.com/akothariRyan: https://x.com/_ryannystromNotion AI agents: https://www.notion.com/blog/introducing-notion-3-0📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Josh is the the VP of Gemini, Google Labs (NotebookLM), and AI Studio and widely considered one of Google’s most beloved leaders. In our interview, he demoed how to get the most out of Gemini and NotebookLM, the startup culture inside Google, and where he thinks Gemini is headed next.We talked about:(00:00) How Josh brings startup hustle to Google(01:19) Live demo of Nano Banana's top image use cases(07:12) Using NotebookLM to turn 70 sources into talking slides(12:36) How Google Labs shipped Flow TV in 86 days(18:20) The #1 way to move fast in big companies(22:02) What Josh looks for when hiring (hint: side projects)(31:32) Why we won't be typing to AI chatbots in the future(38:44) Gemini's future as a proactive assistant that knows your lifeGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/inside-gemini-and-notebooklm-how-google-is-shipping-non-stop-josh-woodwardWhere to find Josh: X: https://x.com/joshwoodward Website: https://gemini.google.comhttps://labs.googlehttps://aistudio.google.com/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with Ryan Carson.Ryan is a serial founder who has developed an amazing 3-file system to vibe code without frustration that has 5,000+ stars on Github. In our interview, he demoed adding a new feature to his production app by using AI to create a spec, generate atomic tasks, and build automated tests for each task.Ryan and I talked about:(00:00) Why his 3-file AI coding workflow works so well(03:22) Explaining each file: PRD, atomic tasks, test-driven development(08:02) Live demo: Building a new feature from scratch(22:32) How to practice test-driven development to avoid bugs(34:18) How to get AI to be your tutor to become more technical(42:03) Pain pills vs vitamins: Why divorce is a great AI business(45:23) How to start a one-person company with AI's helpGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/full-tutorial-a-proven-3-file-system-to-vibe-code-production-apps-ryanWhere to find Ryan:X: https://x.com/ryancarsonWebsite: https://www.ryancarson.com/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with Hamel Husain.Hamel has trained 2,000+ PMs and engineers from companies like OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google on how to run AI evals. In my new episode, he shares a free master class on how to build evals for a real AI agent in just 50 minutes using a simple spreadsheet. I learned a lot from Hamel and I think you will too.Hamel and I talked about:(00:00) What the most valuable part of evals is(01:25) Live walkthrough: Analyzing 100 real production traces(09:50) Creating the eval criteria using a simple spreadsheet(24:44) Why binary pass/fail ratings beat 1-5 scores every time(28:52) The agreement metric trap that fools most PMs(30:08) True positive and negative rates explained(36:00) How to set up continuous evals in productionGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/ai-evaluations-crash-course-in-50-minutes-hamel-husainWhere to find Hamel:X: https://x.com/HamelHusainWebsite: https://hamel.dev/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with Meaghan Choi.As the design lead for Claude Code, Meaghan not only designs new features but also ships code on a regular basis. She showed me her exact design to code workflow along with her top 3 use cases for Claude Code. This interview is a must-watch if you’re a designer or PM who dreams of shipping to production. Meaghan and I talked about:(00:00) Why shipping to prod as a designer feels "terrifying and magical"(02:36) Top 3 design workflows with Claude Code(07:20) How designers can get engineers to let them ship code(11:06) Live demo: From Figma design to working code in minutes(19:10) Custom Claude.md files to make AI work for designers(22:47) How Anthropic ships features in days, not months(28:22) Meaghan's favorite Claude Code shortcuts and pro tips(33:58) The future of design roles in an AI-native worldBrought to you by:Linear — The operating system for AI agents. Get 6 months free of Linear Business here: https://linear.app/behind-the-craftWhere to find Meaghan:X: https://x.com/meag_han_cWebsite: http://clau.de/peteryang📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with Cat Wu.Cat is the product lead for Claude Code and I got her to share how one of the most AI-native teams in tech actually works. Highlights include getting user feedback every 10 minutes, going straight to prototypes instead of docs, and designers checking in code directly. Cat also shared her 3 best Claude Code tips and what’s next for the product.Cat and I talked about:(00:00) The process behind the best Claude Code features(05:00) How engineers can own features from idea to launch(10:04) Getting feedback every 10 minutes from 1000+ users(14:00) How designers and PMs can ship production code(19:58) How the Claude Code team does AI evaluations(29:04) 3 tips from Cat to get the most out of Claude Code(30:12) Why your Claude.md file is so important (33:32) What's next for Claude Code Thanks to our sponsor: Lorikeet: The AI concierge that gets it done lorikeetcx.ai/peter My top 10 takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/inside-claude-code-how-an-ai-native-actually-works-cat-wuWhere to find Cat:X: https://x.com/_catwuWebsite: https://www.anthropic.com/claude-code📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with Alex Finn.Alex is a founder who has built a complete “Claude Life” operating system to automate research, curate AI news, analyze brain dumps, and more. I asked him to walk through exactly how to set up this system using Claude Code slash commands and sub-agents in just 25 minutes.Alex and I talked about:(00:00) How Alex uses Claude Code to automate his life (04:18) Inside "Claude Life" — Alex’s life operating system(05:29) The newsletter research agent that saves hours weekly(09:09) How to use custom slash commands and sub-agents (14:41) The most important skill that everyone needs in 2025(18:01) Brain dump analysis to find new content pillars(21:14) Daily brief agent that aggregates AI newsGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/full-tutorial-build-an-ai-life-copilot-with-claude-code-alex-finnWhere to find Alex:X: https://x.com/AlexFinnXWebsite:https://www.creatorbuddy.io/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with Nan Yu (Linear’s Head of Product).Despite only having 2 PMs, Linear has scaled to over 15,000 companies including OpenAI and Ramp. In our chat, Nan and I did a fun exercise to rank what PM skills still matter in the AI era and he also demoed Linear’s new AI agents that can write code, triage tickets, and analyze customer feedback.Nan and I talked about:(00:00) Why Linear is a billion dollar company with just 2 PMs (03:22) Ranking PM skills: What survives vs gets disrupted by AI(11:10) Why strategy is actually being disrupted by AI(21:51) The new skills PMs must build: context and agent management(26:57) Craft vs speed: Linear's 10% rule for shipping fast(38:09) Live demo: Using MCP to analyze customer feedback instantly(53:04) Delegating entire backlogs to AI agents with one command(57:12) Linear's future as an operating system for human-AI collaborationGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/ranking-every-pm-skill-what-still-matters-gets-disrupted-by-ai-nan-yu-linearWhere to find Nan:X: https://x.com/thenanyuWebsite: https://linear.app/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with Aman Khan.The best way to learn about AI evaluations is to watch 2 PMs build them live from scratch. In our new episode, Aman and I walk through creating evals for an AI customer support agent — from labeling a golden dataset to aligning LLM judges. This is the complete beginners AI eval course you've been waiting for.Aman and I talked about:(00:00) What are AI evals and how to get good at them (02:52) The 4 types of AI evaluations everyone should know(06:08) Live demo: Building evals for a customer support agent (10:29) Using Anthropic's console to generate great prompts (15:13) Creating the evaluation criteria(17:40) Adding human labels to the golden dataset (31:05) Scaling evals with LLM-judge prompts (38:21) How to align LLM judges with human judgmentGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/complete-beginner-course-on-ai-evaluations-aman-khanWhere to find Aman:X: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanberkeley/Website: https://arize.com/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with Lee Robinson.Lee is the VP of Developer Experience at Cursor and a legend in his field. While most people are still vibe coding, Lee showed me how to build apps properly using planning, test-driven development, AI agent workflows, and more. This is a must-watch tutorial for beginners who want to learn how to build with AI the right way.Lee and I talked about:(00:00) How the way we build software is fundamentally changing(03:49) Live demo: Building a music tracking app with Cursor(5:17) The critical setup phase most people skip (tests, git, linting)(16:03) Foreground vs background agents and when to use each(27:34) How to create cursor rules that compound your workflows(37:31) Why experienced engineers shouldn't fear AI tools(42:19) Essential advice for PMs who want to learn technical skills(44:48) How Cursor builds products without any PM(47:18) The future of generalist engineers in an AI worldGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/cursor-tutorial-for-beginners-from-cursor-head-of-ai-education-lee-robinsonWhere to find Lee:X: https://x.com/leerobWebsite: https://leerob.com/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more tutorials coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with Ben Erez.Ben is a former Meta PM who has helped 100s of people ace their PM interviews and land their dream jobs in tech. I got him to show me exactly how to ace product sense interviews and build an AI-copilot that his students say feels like having a "calibrated interviewer that's available 24/7."Ben and I talked about:(00:00) The current state of the PM job market(02:07) The exact structure of the product sense interview(08:58) How to build your AI interview co-pilot step-by-step(12:36) Live demo: AI co-pilot walking through a Meta interview question(13:33) Why Ben designed the AI to be the candidate, not the interviewer(25:23) How to prioritize the right user segments and problems to solve(32:13) The biggest mistakes candidates make when challenged by interviewersThis episode covers how to build a simple AI co-pilot from scratch, but you should also check out Ben’s advanced interview AI co-pilot: https://www.benerez.com/copilotGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-to-build-an-ai-co-pilot-to-ace-your-pm-interviews-ben-erezWhere to find Ben:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benerez/Website: www.benarez.com📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with Jeremy Epling.Jeremy is the CPO of Vanta and former VP of Product at Github. He showed me the exact template that he used to get his entire team to prototype with AI, his favorite AI workflows for PM work, and why now might be the best time to be an IC PM. We also did a deep dive on how Vanta ran AI evaluations for their new AI agent.Jeremy and I talked about:(00:00) Why prototypes beat PRDs (01:43) The exact template that got his entire PM team prototyping(05:14) From prototype to product: live demo of Vanta’s AI agent(08:56) How to run prototype-first product reviews(12:47) Top AI workflows that save Jeremy hours each week(19:08) Is now the best time to be an IC PM?(25:03) Advice for big tech PMs facing industry changes(30:35) Separating the hype from craft for AI products(36:16) Deep dive on AI evaluations for AI agentsWhere to find Jeremy:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-epling-j40/ Website: https://vanta.com Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-to-get-your-team-to-start-prototyping-with-ai-jeremy-vanta📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Meng is the founder of Aura, an AI prototyping tool for designers. He has spent 100s of hours using AI to create beautiful designs that don’t look like generic AI slop. Watch as he shares his exact process in this episode — from prompting to layouts to animations, and more without having to code.Timestamps:(00:00) Why most AI websites look generic and how to fix it(01:19) Comparing prompts across V0, Lovable, and Aura(06:42) Using references and templates instead of blank prompts(08:54) Building a great website prompt from scratch(16:51) Why AI should augment, not replace your creativity(22:43) Adding testimonial sections and scrolling animations(29:40) How to add Spline 3D backgrounds step-by-step(36:12) The 90/10 rule: When to use AI vs manual tweaksGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/use-ai-to-create-beautiful-designs-meng-toWhere to find Meng:X: https://x.com/MengToWebsite: https://aura.build/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with Kieran Klaassen.Kieran is the founder of Cora, a beautiful AI email assistant. While we’ve all been vibe coding, Kieran has gone to the next level to manage multiple AI agents to code for him at the same time. I got him to show me exactly how he does this using Claude Code, voice, slash commands, and more. You don’t want to miss this episode 🙂Timestamps:(00:00) Why agentic coding beats vibe coding(03:21) "It's like I'm a manager and I have an AI agent team"(06:29) Why Claude Code is winning over Cursor for power users(12:15) Live demo: Building a new feature with 3 AI agents in parallel(22:32) Custom slash commands to eliminate repetitive work(36:13) AI code reviews using multiple perspectives and bots(54:55) Inside Cora: Your AI Chief of Staff for email(1:00:11) Advice for non-engineers intimidated by agentic codingGet the takeaways: Where to find Kieran:X: https://x.com/kieranklaassenWebsite: https://cora.computer/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with Morgan Brown.Morgan is the VP of Product for AI at Dropbox. He gave me an inside look at his top AI workflows. We also talked about building Dash, Dropbox’s new AI agent for work, and how AI will reshape PM.Timestamps:(00:00) How Morgan uses AI as a companion for everything he does(01:26) Morgan's 3 best AI workflows to save time at work(06:07) Inside Dash: Dropbox's AI agent to find anything at work(14:35) The evaluation process behind Dash's search results(18:49) How to ship fast while motion doesn't equal progress(22:09) How to balance internal alignment with customer obsession(27:27) What Morgan learned from Drew (Dropbox), Tobi (Shopify), and Zuck(35:39) The 3 types of PMs Morgan looks for in the AI era(38:02) What product management will look like in one yearWhere to find Morgan:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/morganb/Website: https://dash.dropbox.com/Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/dropbox-vp-best-ai-workflows-to-take-back-time-morgan-brown 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with James Evans.James is the Head of AI for Amplitude, the leading product analytics platform. We had a great chat about why nobody has built a good AI analyst yet and why he’s betting on AI agents that can monitor your product 24/7. James also shared some real talk about whether AI will displace PM and analyst jobs.Timestamps:(00:00) Why nobody has built a good AI data analyst yet(03:32) The biggest problem with product analytics today(06:13) Live demo: AI agents that monitor your website 24/7(21:48) The hardest parts of building AI analytics products(25:21) How to evaluate AI agents that run experiments(32:53) AI product pricing strategies that actually work(35:42) Should data scientists worry about their jobs?(38:04) Non-obvious advice for building AI productsGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/is-this-the-first-ai-analyst-that-actually-works-amplitude-james-evansWhere to find James:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-evans-7086b3126/Website: https://amplitude.com/ai📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with Cameron Adams.Cameron leads product for Canva where people are creating 1B+ designs every month. We talked about how AI will transform design and why he believes in prototypes over PRDs and coaches over managers. I also loved hearing Cam’s stories about Canva’s rubber ducky easter egg and what a bike accident taught him about persistence.This episode is brought to you by Vanta — Join 9K+ companies like Atlassian who use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real-time. Get $1000 off at https://vanta.com/peterTimestamps:(00:00) Will AI democratize design?(06:32) How Canva runs AI evaluations for its product(10:17) Moving beyond chat boxes to visual AI interfaces (22:23) Why Canva skips PRDs and goes straight to prototypes (29:08) The rubber duck Easter egg that became a cultural icon(33:13) Keeping craft and quality as a priority as the team grows (35:32) Why Canva gives everyone executive coaching, not just managers(39:23) How AI is blurring boundaries between PM and design(43:26) The bike accident story that almost derailed Canva's launchGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/canva-co-founder-ai-playbook-most-popular-design-tool-cameron-adamsWhere to find Cameron:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themaninblue/Website: https://www.canva.com/ai-assistant/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with Nate Gonzalez.Nate leads ChatGPT for Work which is now used by 92% of Fortune 500 companies. In our chat, he reveals how OpenAI runs with less than 30 PMs, what they look for in new hires, how he personally uses ChatGPT to save time at work, and more.Timestamps:(00:00) 92% of Fortune 500 companies already use ChatGPT(02:06) OpenAI's latest features for ChatGPT at work(14:52) Why OpenAI has less than 30 PMs for 5,000 employees (15:58) What traits OpenAI looks for when hiring PMs(18:31) The 10-minute AI hack that changed how Nate works(25:56) The most surprising thing about working at OpenAI(29:48) The biggest barriers to AI adoption and how to overcome them(38:36) Using ChatGPT roleplay to prep for important meetings (41:04) ChatGPT's future: From assistant to trusted coworker (43:06) The specific skill that will keep your job safe in the AI eraGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-openais-head-of-business-products-uses-chatgpt-at-work-nate-gonzalezWhere to find Nate:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-gonzalez/Website: https://openai.com/chatgpt/enterprise/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Matt Palmer is the Head of Developer Relations at Replit and a vibe coding expert. He showed me how to build an app to help busy parents find kid-friendly places (playgrounds, hikes) nearby in just 30 minutes without writing a single line of code. We covered frontend, API, databases, authentication, security and more.Timestamps:(00:00) The 3 core traits that make successful vibe coders(02:32) Start with vibe PMing before vibe coding(05:17) Don't just give AI text prompts, do this instead(25:01) How Replit Agent debugs and tests for you (28:15) You have to be comfortable with failure(33:33) Adding login and databases with one magic prompt(46:43) Where vibe coding is headed (spoiler: AI agents)(48:28) Agency, curiosity, and courage: the vibe coder mindsetGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/complete-ai-vibe-coding-tutorial-build-full-stack-app-replit-matt-palmer Where to find Matt Palmer:X: https://x.com/mattppalLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/matt-palmer/YouTube: https://youtube.com/@mattpalmer📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Adam Loving (Meta) has helped 100s of companies craft AI products. Our interview is a complete, beginner friendly AI course on how to use prompting, evals, RAG, and fine-tuning to build great AI products.Timestamps:(00:00) The 2 types of AI optimizations every PM needs to know(02:52) 4 tips to craft compelling AI prompts(07:14) 4 types of AI evaluations to consider(12:06) The scoring trick for advanced AI evaluations(21:50) Retrieval augmented generation explained(27:29) Is fine-tuning basically lobotomizing your AI model?(30:31) Now I finally understand vector databases (41:40) Why Meta thinks open source will win(44:04) Adam's best advice after leading 100s of AI integrationsWhere to find Adam:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamloving/Website: https://www.llama.com/Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/complete-ai-course-on-prompting-evals-rag-fine-tuning-adam-loving📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Today, I want to share a new episode with Sam Gregg-Wallace.As VP of Talent at Shopify, Sam is building a radical career system where ICs are paid the same as managers, AI usage is mandatory, and employees can advance their career by mastering their craft. If you’re tired of the corporate ladder, then this episode is for you.Timestamps:(00:00) It's time to kick down the traditional corporate ladder(02:00) Shopify's dual career path for crafters and managers(04:32) Live demo: Why Shopify employees have "mastery points"(09:07) "Show me the outcome and I'll show you the incentive"(17:00) Live demo: Employees choose their equity/cash split every quarter(24:04) She made one video and got hired in 20 hours(27:36) Driving AI adoption in Shopify after Tobi's AI memo(32:01) Shopify's "low distraction" mode internal operating system(39:22) 3 rules to build a crafter's paradise at your companyWhere to find Sam:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samgreggwallace/Website: https://www.shopify.com/news/masteryGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-to-advance-your-career-without-managing-shopify📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Claire is the Chief Product Officer of LaunchDarkly, founder of ChatPRD, and host of the How I AI podcast. No product leader uses AI as much as Claire so I was thrilled to get her to demo how she builds a new feature with AI agents and how she’s advising PMs to adapt to AI in the next 18 months.This episode is brought to you by Vanta — Join 9K+ companies like Atlassian who use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real-time. Get $1000 off at https://vanta.com/peterTimestamps:(00:00) Why traditional PM is dead (and what's coming next)(01:46) Live demo: Building a new feature using ChatPRD and Devin(05:34) The prompting trick that makes AI work like a real team member(08:08) Why Devin has replaced Cursor for 70% of Claire's coding needs(21:05) How Claire uses AI to build product strategy(34:22) Balancing CPO duties, side projects, and family(37:24) The real reason product management jobs are changing(42:43) 3 skills that will future-proof your PM career in the AI era(50:05) Why we’re entering the year of multiplayer AI agentsWhere to find Claire:X: https://x.com/clairevoPodcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/4aRP2XSavdtrLG5FZoonOKGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-to-become-an-ai-product-leader-claire-voGet the takeaways:https://creatoreconomy.so/p/from-idea-to-product-in-30min-using-ai-agents-claire-vo

David is the Head of AI Product at Figma and gave me an exclusive demo of Figma Make, Figma’s new AI prototyping tool. We had a great chat about how Make stands out from other tools and how it works under the hood, including a deep dive on evals.This episode is brought to you by Merge — Merge gives SaaS companies like Ramp and Drata a single API to launch over 200 product integrations fast. Book a meeting via https://www.merge.dev/peteryang and get a $50 Amazon gift card when you attend.Timestamps:(00:00) Building the best design-to-prototype tool in the market(03:17) Demo: From static image to interactive solar system(06:05) 3 ways that Make stands out from other prototyping tools(12:01) How Make actually works behind the scenes(15:21) 4 types of evals to improve Make's AI prototypes(17:40) How the "Great Bakeoff" transformed the product(23:29) The biggest product challenges in building Make(27:23) Why prototypes are now the gold standard for design(35:07) How Figma learned from its past AI mistakes(40:36) Demo: Drawing apps, games, and more with MakeWhere to find David:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidkossnick/Website: https://www.figma.com/make/Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/figmas-make-ai-prototyping-tool-is-here📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Colin Matthews has taught 1000+ students on how to prototype apps with AI. In this interview, we demoed the best AI coding tools for each use case - from prototyping to production apps.This episode is brought to you by Vanta — Join 9K+ companies like Atlassian who use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real-time. Get $1000 off at https://vanta.com/peterTimestamps:(01:02) The current state of AI coding tools and what to expect (06:43) Text-to-prototype showdown: Bolt vs. V0 vs. Lovable vs. Replit(09:09) The surprising winner for Figma-to-prototype conversion (17:30) Building JavaScript games with a single prompt (24:28) Full-stack app development: Cursor vs. Windsurf (32:57) Our recommendations for each AI coding use case (35:34) Why enterprise players could dominate the AI prototype market (39:29) Can non-engineers really build production apps with AI?Where to find Colin:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colinmatthews-pm/Course: https://maven.com/tech-for-product/tech-fundamentalsGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/an-opinionated-guide-on-which-ai-coding-tool-2025📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Sahil is the founder, investor, and New York Times bestselling author of The Five Types of Wealth. In our chat, he shares some profound life lessons that will be a wake-up call for any high achiever in tech and exactly how he grew to 1M+ followers.Timestamps:(00:00) The one thing high-achievers are missing(02:58) The five types of wealth that create a truly rich life (08:31) The conversation that completely changed Sahil's POV (13:38) What would make him instantly reject a $100M job offer (17:33) Hidden insecurities of the world's most successful people (19:04) The devastating truth about how little time you have with your kids (26:54) This 85-year Harvard study reveals the key to living longer (34:10) Sahil's creator journey and the drivers of his million-follower growth (41:05) The framework for deciding what to delegate vs. do yourselfWhere to find Sahil:YouTube:  @Sahil_Bloom  Book: https://www.the5typesofwealth.com/ Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/5-harsh-truths-about-wealth-you-dont-want-to-realize-too-late 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Stephen Chau.Stephen is the co-founder of Cove, a Sequoia-backed startup that lets you interact with AI through a ground-breaking visual interface instead of chat. We had a great chat about why the future of AI is generative UI, how to build great AI products, and how he scaled Uber Eats from $0 to $25B.This episode is brought to you by Merge — Merge gives SaaS companies like Ramp and Drata a single API to launch over 200 product integrations fast. Book a meeting via https://www.merge.dev/peteryang and get a $50 Amazon gift card when you attend.Timestamps: (00:00) The future of AI is generative UI(01:53) Demoing Cove's visual AI interface for trip planning(05:02) Beyond chatbots: Co-creating with AI in a natural way(09:01) Context-aware AI that updates content automatically(11:11) Putting AI to the test to list premium Japanese snacks(14:02) Building AI apps directly within your workspace(16:35) Demoing real world use cases for visual AI interfaces(27:39) Generative UI and just-in-time AI apps(31:16) Why chatbots are the "DOS stage" of AI interfaces(45:44) The secret to building Uber Eats to $25B(54:51) The best way to build your AI product senseGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/he-built-uber-eats-now-pushing-ai-beyond-chat-stephen-chauWhere to find Stephen:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephenchau/Website: https://cove.ai/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Arvind Jain.Arvind is the CEO of Glean and believes every employee should have a team of AI agents to help them get work done. We had a great chat about how AI agents will impact work and Arvind’s top lessons from scaling Glean to $100M ARR in 3 years.This episode is brought to you by Merge — Merge gives SaaS companies like Ramp and Drata a single API to launch over 200 product integrations fast. Book a meeting via www.merge.dev/peteryang and get a $50 Amazon gift card when you attend.Timestamps:(00:00) How to find job security with AI(03:10) Everyone will manage a team of AI agents(05:53) Is PM well positioned to thrive with AI?(10:27) How anyone can build powerful AI agents now(12:28) Three real barriers to enterprise AI adoption(17:34) How Glean reached $100M ARR in only 3 years(22:52) Making AI work with messy internal company data(26:51) Critical skills you need to build to craft AI products(33:33) Are 5-year plans completely worthless?(36:12) Glean's vision is to give everyone an AI teamGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/100m-company-in-3-years-ai-agents-glean-arvind-jainWhere to find Arvind:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jain-arvind/Website: https://www.glean.com/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Scott White.Scott is the Head of Product for Claude at Anthropic, and I’m excited to be the first to interview him about the hybrid reasoning AI model Claude 3.7 Sonnet. Scott also gave me a behind-the-scenes look at how Anthropic builds AI products, the most essential skills in the AI era, and how Claude will evolve from assistant to agent.This episode is brought to you by Vanta — Join 9,000+ companies like Atlassian and Quora, and use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real time. Get $1000 off at vanta.com/peterScott and I talked about:(00:00) How Claude will evolve from assistant to agent(01:58) Inside Claude 3.7: The first hybrid reasoning AI(04:51) How Claude became best in class at coding(08:50) Top 3 ways that Scott uses Claude to build Claude(13:49) PMs can now design and collapse the talent stack(17:00) Will AI models become commoditized, and Claude's personality (22:34) How to work with AI researchers(27:20) Step by step how Scott builds AI product(32:37) Why every PM must master writing AI evals(35:53) If Mike Krieger has brought Instagram's principles to Anthropic(38:41) How to get hired at Anthropic(43:01) Flipping the script on Claude's futureGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/inside-the-best-ai-model-for-coding-claude-scott-white Where to find Scott:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottiewhite/Website: https://claude.ai/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Yana Welinder.Yana is the CEO of Kraftful, an AI product that helps 50,000 product teams extract insights from user reviews and surveys. She’s also a power user of ChatGPT and did a live demo of her top AI workflows for Deep Research and Operator.Timestamps:(00:00) At this point, I’m not doing anything without AI(01:38) Live demo of Operator automating product work(08:07) Using Deep Research for competitive analysis(11:05) Unlocking Deep Research to get medical advice(13:29) More everyday use cases for AI you might not know about(19:07) The key problem with AI startups(22:32) What should the PM actually do if AI will do everything?(25:36) The ups and downs of being an AI founder(29:02) How to balance prompting, RAG, fine-tuning, and evals(32:09) The right time horizon to plan for AIGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/ai-does-my-work-now-as-a-product-leader-yanaWhere to find Yana:X: https://x.com/yanatweetsWebsite: https://www.kraftful.com/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Eric Simons.Eric is the CEO of Bolt, the AI coding platform that has exploded from 0 to 3M users in less than a year. Eric gave me a live demo of building a $2B mobile app from scratch with Bolt, how his “overnight” success was seven years in the making, and how real product teams use Bolt to get work done faster.This episode is brought to you by Vanta — Join 9,000+ companies like Atlassian and Quora who use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real time. Get $1000 off at vanta.com/peterTimestamps:(00:00) From almost shutting down to $20M ARR in 2 months(01:20) Watch Bolt build Spotify with a single prompt(03:59) Live demo of building a $2B mobile app in 15 min(05:16) How to test your prototypes on mobile with Expo(10:03) Redesigning UX just by pasting in a screenshot(15:00) "Vibe coding" secrets straight from Eric(18:38) How Bolt will solve the AI debugging doom loop(24:34) The AI prototyping use case that most people aren't thinking about(27:21) The inside story of scaling Bolt from 0 to 3M users(41:10) Why AI products are like surfboards in a tsunamiGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/building-a-billion-dollar-app-with-bolt-aiWhere to find Eric:X: https://x.com/ericsimons40Website: bolt.new📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Ebi Atawodi.Ebi is the Director of Product for YouTube Studio, the home for 65M creators (including me). Ebi gave me an inside look at crafting Studio’s vision and how to define yourself beyond your job title. Ebi’s super inspiring, and you'll love our chat.This episode is brought to you by Vanta — Join over 9,000 global companies like Atlassian, Quora, and Factory who use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real time. Get $1000 off at vanta.com/peterTimestamps:(00:00) If I took away your job title, who are you?(03:44) Defining the vision for YouTube Studio(07:30) Tell me what's painful, not what you shipped(11:18) Transforming a vision into strategic themes(21:24) What most people don't realize about platform PMs(28:59) Balancing the needs of big and small creators(33:23) Why the little moments really matter for creators(38:01) Why Ebi took time off to make a short film(43:50) I'm a storyteller, and nobody can take that awayGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/this-vision-playbook-will-change-youtube-productWhere to find Ebi Atawodi:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ebiatawodi/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6vQTfTejyY📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Amjad Mosad, CEO and founder of Replit.Amjad is the CEO of Replit, an AI coding platform with 34M users that’s making it possible for anyone to build an app in 60 seconds from their phone. In our chat, Amjad shared how you can learn to code with AI and gave me a live demo of Replit’s AI agent. We also discussed the skills that will still matter in AI. This episode is brought to you by Vanta — Join over 9,000 global companies like Atlassian, Quora, and Factory who use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real-time. Get $1000 off at vanta.com/peter. Timestamps:(00:00) Two paths to tech job security in the AI era(06:36) The best way to learn to code with AI(07:41) Building a nutrition tracking app with Replit(14:07) How to avoid getting stuck on bugs with AI(18:30) 5 tips to get the most out of AI coding agents(22:10) Why everyone should build personal software(24:00) What makes Replit's AI approach different(27:41) Why traditional roadmaps are dead(30:40) How Replit uses AI internally to build faster(34:00) Build an app in 60 seconds from your phone(36:14) Career advice for tech folks to become AI nativeGet the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/this-ai-tool-lets-you-build-apps-faster-than-googlingWhere to find Amjad:X: https://x.com/amasadWebsite: https://replit.com/📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Colin Matthews. Colin is a rockstar instructor who teaches a popular AI Prototyping for PMs course on building AI apps without coding skills. In our interview, Colin shared how to pick the right AI prototyping tool, what you should do before asking AI to code, and how to build a habit-tracking app step by step in just 20 minutes. Brought to you by: Vanta— Automate compliance and scale your security program. Get $1,000 off. Timestamps: (00:00) Do this before asking AI to code (01:13) How to pick the right AI prototyping tool (05:50) Choosing AI tools for client, server, and database (10:49) Building a habit-tracking app step by step(14:02) Always start with the data model (22:08) Top mistakes to avoid with AI prototyping (27:14) Should you still learn to be technical with AI? (32:13) Avoiding the 70% problem and getting stuck on bugs (33:59) How to learn to code through AI prototyping Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/the-number-one-hack-to-build-with-ai-without-getting-stuck Where to find Colin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colinmatthews-pm/ Get $100 off Colin's prototyping course: https://maven.com/tech-for-product/ai-prototyping-for-product-managers?promoCode=peter100 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Mikey Shulman. Mikey is the CEO and co-founder of Suno, the best AI music app available. I’ve had so much fun using it to make songs with my kids. In our chat, Mikey shares how music LLMs work, how Suno builds AI products, and the good and bad futures of music with AI. Timestamps: (00:00) The good and bad futures of AI in music (03:41) How Suno's music AI actually works (07:31) Building for personalization without losing humanity (10:34) Turning text into actual songs (14:06) Product iteration in uncharted territory (20:37) Core principles for building AI products (25:06) How streaming changed everything (31:35) What's next for AI music in 2025 (32:51) Navigating product management in AI Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/inside-suno-the-ai-music-app-you-wont-stop-listening-to-product Where to find Mikey: X: https://x.com/MikeyShulmanWebsite: https://suno.ai/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Chris Pettigrew. Chris is the co-founder and CEO of Granola, an AI meeting notes app that has become indispensable to me. Granola has 70%+ weekly user retention, almost unheard of for consumer AI. In our interview, Chris shared five hard-won rules for building AI products that users love and explained why AI will fix meetings. Timestamps: (00:00) The #1 mistake you can make when building AI products (01:35) The difference between big tech PM and startup founder (06:22) Why Chris decided to use AI to solve meetings (09:26) Don't solve problems that won't be problems soon (12:44) How can you predict what LLMs can do in the future (19:09) Why context is king for great AI products (23:56) How to give your AI product a soul (28:43) When to listen to user feedback and when to trust your gut(31:39) Closing advice for people who want to build AI apps Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/the-hidden-rules-behind-successful-ai-products-chris-pedregal Where to find Chris: Website: https://www.granola.ai/ X: https://x.com/cjpedregal 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Aman Khan. Aman is the Director of Product at Arize AI. Last year, we both heard the Chief Product Officers of OpenAI and Anthropic share that AI evaluations will be the most important skill for PMs in 2025. Aman gave me a crash course on how to build this critical skill in our interview.   Timestamps: (00:00) Evals force you to get into your user's shoes (03:42) 5 skills to build right now to become a great AI PM (07:43) How curiosity leads to better AI products (10:20) You can build AI without the job title (17:00) A deep dive into why AI evals are so important (24:53) Example of running evals for an AI customer support agent (31:32) When humans need to be in the loop for evals (35:46) How to get better at writing evals right now (39:39) My personal prompt and eval for transcripts (44:23) Catching the AI wave is alot like surfing   Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/the-ai-skill-that-will-define-your-pm-career-aman-khan   Where to find Aman: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanberkeley/ Arize: https://arize.com/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Amit Fulay. Amit is a product VP at Microsoft who previously spent 15 years building products like News Feed (Meta) and Google Meet (Google). In our interview, he reveals the three types of product leaders, how to build trust at each career stage, and what AI means for PMs. He also teaches a popular on leveling up from PM to influential product leader (get $100 off with this link). Timestamps: (00:00) The secret to building trust (01:43) 3 distinct types of product leaders (03:29) How to influence each type of leader (09:29) Will AI kill traditional product management? (16:02) How to build trust in each stage of your career (20:16) Sunsetting your own without losing trust (25:31) Speaking the truth to your management chain (28:55) Inside how Satya Nadella fixed Microsoft (32:41) What Amit wished he knew when he started as a PM Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/top-1-percent-product-leaders-do-this-amit-fulay Where to find Amit: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/afulay/ Course: https://maven.com/amitfulay/toppmleader 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Katia Verresen. Katia is one of Silicon Valley's most sought-after leadership coaches. Her clients include Fidji Simo (CEO of Instacart), Kate Rouch (CMO of OpenAI), Deb Liu (CEO of Ancestry), who all rave about how she transformed their careers. In our chat, Katia shared her proven techniques to help you achieve your goals in the new year. Timestamps: (00:00) How to stop doubting yourself (01:54) The year-in-review ritual top CEOs swear by (06:11) I thought I had a horrible year until I realized this (10:13) Why it's so important to celebrate your wins(15:40) Coaching clients from managers to CEOs (17:57) The power of unlocking your "kind observer" (21:35) How to use emotions to shape your reality (30:18) Imagination is a superpower most leaders don't use (41:18) 3 daily practices to unlock abundant energy Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/make-2025-your-best-year-yet-katia-verresen Where to find Katia: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katia-verresen/ Website: https://www.kvaleadership.com/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Sachin Rekhi. Sachin scaled LinkedIn’s Sales Navigator to $200M ARR and 500 employees. He then left it all behind to start Notejoy; a team notes app. I had a great chat with him about finding market fit for your product and career in 2025 and how to design work to suit your life, not vice versa. Timestamps: (00:00) I got my dream PM job then realized I didn’t want it (02:19) The MVP is dead (08:02) Execution is NOT the only thing that matters (09:40) A proven loop to achieve product-market fit (14:18) Better ways to validate your product than MVPs (20:01) How to even measure product-market fit (26:03) Why Sachin opted out of the path to VP (29:16) Aligning your career with your zone of genius (36:18) I saw the small team trend coming (40:38) Use explore-exploit to find your dream career (44:01) Closing tips to design your life with purpose Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/rethink-your-pm-career-in-2025-sachin-rekhi Where to find Sachin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sachinrekhi/ Website: https://www.sachinrekhi.com/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Deb Liu. Deb is the CEO of Ancestry, former VP at Meta, and writer of Perspectives. But for our interview, I wanted to talk to Deb about a more personal topic: How to survive and thrive as a busy working parent with your spouse, aging parents, and kids. In our interview, Deb shared her best advice on building a 60-60 relationship with your spouse, raising resilient kids, caring for aging parents, and dealing with grief. Timestamps: (00:00) How to stop parenting through guilt (01:19) Building a 60-60 relationship with your spouse (03:05) Choosing your marriage swim lanes (05:41) A simple ritual for authentic family conversations (09:51) Why the world isn't set up for two working parents (12:24) How to solve stressful mornings (17:29) The sandwich generation and dealing with grief (21:38) How to build your modern village (27:49) Raising resilient kids as a busy parent (35:19) Closing words of advice for balancing career and family Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-to-survive-and-thrive-as-a-busy-working-parent Where to find Deb: Newsletter: https://debliu.substack.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahliu/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Mike Knoop, co-founder of Zapier. Mike co-founded Zapier and started the ARC Prize to accelerate progress towards open AGI. We had a great chat about how Zapier works, how PMs and marketers can use AI to automate even more work, and why LLMs won’t reach AGI by themselves. Timestamps: (00:00) There are two types of AI automation (01:57) How Zapier automation works (05:14) I quit being Zapier's CPO to do AI research (07:54) I gave employees a week off to just use AI(11:57) How PMs can use AI agents to save time (14:03) We saved $100K by using AI agents in marketing (21:28) Robotic process automation might be better than APIs (26:30) Most definitions of AGI are wrong (30:45) Why LLMs won't get us to AGI and what might work instead Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/zapier-co-founder-ai-agents-10x-productivity-mike-knoop Where to find Mike:X: https://x.com/mikeknoopWebsite: https://mikeknoop.com/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Jiaona Zhang, CPO of Linktree. JZ is the Chief Product Officer of Linktree and a guest lecturer at Stanford. We had a great chat about AI’s impact on PM managers and super ICs, the shift towards PM specialists, and whether becoming a creator can help advance your PM career. (00:00) Find what makes you happy in your PM career (01:44) AI's impact on PM managers and super ICs (04:03) How to balance strategy and execution (08:24) Streamlining PM tasks with AI (13:28) Creating strategy docs and PRDs that work (16:50) Your career is your most important product (22:55) The shift from PM generalists to specialists (23:58) Exploring JZ's Career Odyssey framework (25:49) Why you shouldn't just optimize for comp and title (31:12) Does the creator economy actually work? (44:19) Can being a creator help advance your product career? Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-the-product-manager-role-is-changing-jiaona-zhang Where to find Jiaona: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jiaona/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Niels Hoven, founder and CEO of Mentava. Niels founded Mentava, an education startup teaching 2-year-olds to read at the 2nd-grade level. We had a great chat about why K-12 education is broken for high-achieving kids, whether AI will unlock personalized learning, and how his software teaches 2-year-olds to read. Timestamps: (00:00) Our schools don't work for high-achieving kids (01:26) The problem with K-12 education in the US (03:08) Why California banned 8th grade algebra (10:11) Never be ashamed of advocating for your kids (14:21) How Niels homeschooled 3 kids during COVID (19:25) Teaching 2-year-olds to read like 2nd graders (25:24) Rethinking how we teach kids math (28:44) Will AI replace teachers? (30:34) Will elite college credentials still matter? (35:29) Tips for parents to raise high-achieving kids Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/why-education-is-broken-for-high-achieving-kids-niels-hoven Where to find Niels: X: https://x.com/NielsHoven Website: https://www.mentava.com/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Aravind Srinivas, CEO and co-founder of Perplexity. Aravind is the CEO of Perplexity, the AI answer engine disrupting online search. Aravind gave me an inside look at how Perplexity builds products, how it scaled to 100M queries a week, and how it’ll deliver better ads than Google’s ten blue links. Timestamps: (00:00) We don't do product reviews (01:22) The secret to Perplexity's incredible shipping velocity (05:16) Giving feedback as a user instead of as the CEO (07:01) How Perplexity decides what to build next (10:56) Perplexity's "7 friends in 10 days" metric (14:02) How Perplexity uses AI to build Perplexity (17:30) How to get a great job without traditional credentials (21:50) Key drivers behind Perplexity's growth to 100M queries (27:50) The future of search ads and why 10 blue links are dead (35:56) Closing advice to get what you want out of life Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/inside-how-perplexity-is-disrupting-search-aravind-srinivas Where to find Aravind: X: https://x.com/AravSrinivas Website: https://www.perplexity.ai/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Cem Kansu. Cem is the Head of Product at Duolingo. Over 8 years, he helped Duolingo grow to 100M+ monthly active users and $500M+ in annual revenue. I had a super fun chat with Cem about Duolingo's unhinged product culture, the top drivers of Duolingo's user and revenue growth, and whether AI will democratize education. Timestamps: (00:00) We love being unhinged with our owl (01:26) Duolingo is a game and this is our core loop (03:46) The top 3 drivers of Duolingo's growth to 100M users (05:55) Passive-aggressive push notifications work! (08:12) How Duolingo onboards new users to maximize retention (13:11) Our winding path to $500M+ in revenue (17:25) We've figured out how international expansion works (21:13) Will AI kill Duolingo? (26:20) We made Lily an AI emo teenager on purpose (32:41) How to A/B test without sacrificing quality (37:09) What the best PMs at Duolingo have in common Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/inside-duolingo-unhinged-growth-to-500m-cem-kansu Where to find Cem: X: https://x.com/cemkansu LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cemkansu/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Satish Mummareddy, ex-product leader at Meta. During his 6 years at Meta as an IC7 product leader, Satish interviewed 200+ PM candidates and mentored 100+ PMs. We had a great chat about how to crack the PM interview, choose the right job offer, and find strong mentors. Timestamps: (00:00) How not to let rejection get you down (01:53) Hot takes after interviewing 200+ PMs at Meta (05:14) Why experienced PMs often struggle in interviews (09:13) 3-month plan to crush interviews at top tech companies (15:05) How to uplevel your product thinking skills (20:10) Why interview frameworks aren't enough (27:31) How to avoid getting down-leveled (30:01) Choosing the right company to join (36:24) 3 steps to find great mentors and sponsors (40:25) Deliberate practice, career arcs, and mental fitness Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/meta-product-leader-cracking-the-pm-interview-satish Where to find Satish: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/satishmummareddy/ Course: https://maven.com/crossing-career-chasms/product-thinking :pushpin: Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Tomer Cohen, Chief Product Officer at LinkedIn. Tomer gave me an inside look at LinkedIn’s growth from 100M to 1B+ users by transforming its feed. He also shared his best advice on growing AI products and advancing your PM career. Finally, I had to ask him about r/LinkedinLunatics. 🙂 Timestamps: (00:00) 3 must-have principles for building AI products (02:55) Revamping the LinkedIn feed for knowledge-sharing (06:15) Why it's so hard to be a feed PM and how Tomer overcame doubts (11:09) r/LinkedInLunatics and the role of humor on LinkedIn (13:18) How newsletters and videos can succeed on LinkedIn (18:24) "Thinking fast and slow" as an AI PM (22:22) How to deal with AI's non-deterministic nature (24:49) "Founder mode" and traits that the best PMs have (27:52) How to design an org to reward impact more than optics (31:29) The best way to land your dream job isn't to apply to everything Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/linkedins-cpo-on-growing-to-1b-with-ai-tomer-cohen Where to find Tomer: - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomercohen/ - Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/34ScXLvdmBeZ2Yza7ZWtLi 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Sanchan Saxena, SVP at Atlassian. Sanchan worked directly with 4 of the best founders out there — Kevin Systrom and Mike Krieger (Instagram), Brian Armstrong (Coinbase), and Brian Chesky (Airbnb). In our chat, he shares what we can learn from each founder’s superpowers and the 4 traits he always looks for when hiring exceptional PMs. (00:00) The secret product approach that sets Airbnb and Apple apart (01:21) Inside Instagram's early days at 100 employees (03:07) Kevin Systrom and Mike Krieger's superpowers (04:54) How "do the simple thing first" led to Instagram Stories' success (07:15) The single common trait shared by the greatest founders (08:50) Brian Armstrong's golden rule, "No decision by committee" (13:36) "Unconstrained thinking" with Brian Chesky at Airbnb (18:21) What Brian Chesky learned from Disney movies and storytelling (23:29) Why obsessing over metrics kills product quality (27:43) Shifting focus to prioritize customers and craft in your company (30:55) Climbing the ladder From PM to product director and VP (33:38) Mastering the yin and yang of product management (42:02) How to set yourself up to get lucky in your career Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/sanchan-instagram-airbnb-coinbase Where to find Sanchan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanchans/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@therealsanchan 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Ben Tossell, founder of Ben's Bites. Ben built a 7-figure business that has taught 10,000+ people how to use AI to save time and automate work. In less than a year, this business has already made more than his last exit (selling no-code platform MakerPad to Zapier). Timestamps: (00:00) AI is your co-pilot, it's not the end to end solution yet (00:56) I scaled to $1M+ by avoiding things I hate doing (03:11) Key drivers of growing to 7-figures in 9 months (10:44) What to automate with AI vs. delegate to teammates (15:30) How to find and hire help online (17:22) Has the community been critical to the business? (22:09) The art of writing great AI prompts (25:42) Ben's bear take on Perplexity (29:36) My defense of Perplexity (33:18) Why all of us are winners from the AI race (36:17) Underrated AI tools for illustrations, videos, and more (40:02) How to build a business to suit your life, not vice versa Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-i-built-a-7-figure-business-with-ai-ben-tossell Where to find Ben: Website: https://bensbites.com/ X: https://x.com/bentossell 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Marily Nika, AI Product Lead at Google. Marily built AI products at Meta and Google for 12+ years after getting a PhD in machine learning. She's also a top AI instructor who has given talks at TED, Harvard, and through her top-rated AI course and newsletter. Timestamps: (00:00) Anyone can be an AI PM (01:22) A crash course on core AI concepts (01:51) AI algorithms and applications map (06:38) Traits that the best AI PMs have in common (09:53) How to get leadership buy-in for AI products (11:37) A day in the life as an AI PM (14:51) How to break into AI product management (20:25) How to avoid the retention problem for AI products (23:08) A live demo of ChatGPT Voice (33:39) How Marily uses AI in her personal life Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-to-break-into-ai-product-management Where to find Marily: Newsletter: https://marily.substack.com/ Course: https://maven.com/marily-nika/ai-pm-bootcamp 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Justin Welsh, a 7-figure solopreneur and creator. Justin burned out from startups in 2019 after suffering from a panic attack. Since then, he’s built an $8M one-person business and an audience of millions. His new course, Creator MBA, is one of the highest value-to-time courses I’ve ever taken. Timestamps: (00:00) The specific path to build an $8M solo business (01:47) Leaving the career ladder after a panic attack (05:53) How to build a side hustle while employed (08:41) An exercise to take back your time (12:59) Finding your niche and unique value proposition (16:12) Validating your business idea with real customers (19:02) Creating a movement and identifying your "enemy" (23:00) A simple creator funnel to scale solo businesses (27:01) Changes that led to big growth in Justin's business (27:29) How Justin uses AI to optimize his funnel (31:23) Specific vs generic paths to succeed as a creator (39:22) Closing advice for tech people to take back control of their careers Get the interview takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-i-built-an-8m-solo-business-justin-welsh Where to find Justin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinwelsh/ Newsletter: https://www.justinwelsh.me/newsletters 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Shishir Mehrotra, co-founder and CEO of Coda. Shishir is the co-founder and CEO of Coda and was YouTube's Chief Product Officer. We had a great chat about what I think is the best framework to grow your career, how a PM applied it to build a 0 to $1B product in 18 months, and other rituals to level up your strategy and leadership.Brought to you by: - Amplitude: Get their North Star playbook for free: https://bit.ly/4fPxUmg Timestamps: (00:00) From 0 to $1B in just 18 months (01:27) Introducing Shishir (01:41) The best career growth framework you've never heard of (03:35) Scope is the wrong metric to evaluate PMs (07:12) Why PSHE applies to all functions(10:13) Breaking into PM at Google using PSHE (17:34) Solving obvious problems without stepping on toes (24:23) The most underrated skill for PMs (26:16) The WOW framework for strategy and planning (31:26) The $100 exercise to get teams to think beyond their scope (35:17) Have you seen small teams move faster? (37:20) PSHE framework for small vs. large teams (41:53) Selfless leadership and the trillion-dollar coach Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/the-best-framework-for-career-growth-shishir Where to find Shishir: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shishirmehrotra/ X: https://x.com/shishirmehrotra 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Jon Lax, former VP of Design at Meta. Jon is a 25-year design veteran who most recently led design for Meta’s Reality Labs (e.g., Ray Ban glasses, Quest, and more). Before Meta, Jon ran his own design firm for 12 years. He’s got many hot takes on product development and design that I’m excited to dig into. Brought to you by: - Amplitude: Get their north star playbook for free: https://bit.ly/4fPxUmg Timestamps: (00:00) Why delight comes last (01:31) Introducing Jon (01:56) Why Jon stopped doing vision decks and north stars (05:49) The right time scale for designers to operate in (11:13) 3 miracle problems have killed many products (15:14) Make it useful first, then beautiful (23:38) MVP vs. minimum lovable product is the wrong framing (25:37) The single trait that all the best teams at Meta share (26:29) How to build a shared definition of done (31:19) The one question I ask to bring clarity to promotions (36:22) How to climb the ambiguity and autonomy curve (40:01) Is AI the end of peak design jobs? Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/ex-meta-vp-reveals-his-top-design-lessons-jon-lax Where to find Jon: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-lax-900b5a293/Blog: https://jonlax.framer.ai/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Sharmeen Chapp, Head of Product for Revenue and Finance Automation at Stripe. In 2021, Sharmeen was diagnosed with breast cancer after becoming a Senior Director at Meta and a new mom. She shared lessons on leading with empathy through cancer, growing from IC to VP in 6 years, and Stripe’s unique product culture. Brought to you by: - Amplitude: Get their North Star playbook for free https://bit.ly/4fPxUmg Timestamps: (00:00) Empathy starts with leaving your ego at the door (01:59) I basically product-managed my breast cancer (03:22) Silver lining of sharing my journey publicly (05:54) Balancing work, family, and cancer treatment (12:20) Why empathy and excellence are not mutually exclusive (17:34) Operating high and low on vision and execution (22:05) Transitioning to PM and overcoming doubts (25:03) Growing from IC to VP in 6 years (27:56) Why I deprioritized my own product (36:59) Stripe PM culture of user-first and humility (41:55) Remember to give yourself grace Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/leading-with-empathy-through-cancer-sharmeen-chapp Where to find Sharmeen: X: https://x.com/luckiesharms LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharmeenchapp/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Mihika Kapoor, product lead at Figma. Mihika and team built Figma Slides from just an idea to a featured product at Config this year. She shared with me how anyone can build 0 to 1 products inside large companies - from building internal excitement to getting leadership buy-in to shipping on time. She also shared why she no longer writes any PRDs. Timestamps: (00:00) What it really takes to build 0-1 (01:42) How Figma Slides came from Figma and Figjam (04:23) Convincing other PMs that this was an idea worth pursuing (06:38) Talking gets nowhere, here's what works instead (11:04) How designers can get PM buy-in for their ideas (16:18) Breaking all the rules for product development (22:29) Getting leadership buy-in on your vision (30:25) Aligning a 0-1 product with company goals (32:29) Find your "first follower" to build your 0-1 team (37:14) The hardest thing about building Figma Slides (42:30) 4 rules for anyone building new products (47:23) Be careful about setting goals for 0-1 products (52:15) Why Mihika doesn't write PRDs Get the interview takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/anyone-can-build-0-1-products-mihika-kapoor Where to find Mihika: X: https://x.com/mihikapoor LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mihikakapoor/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Lee Robinson, VP Product at Vercel. Lee has built products and great developer experiences for over a decade and has written some of the most clear-sighted content about how to get developers to adopt your product that I’ve ever read. We chatted about what makes a great developer experience, what resonates with developer marketing, and how to appeal to this no-bullshit customer segment. Timestamps: (00:00) A cycle to guarantee developers love your product (01:15) How developers decide whether to use a new tool (03:45) 3 pillars of a great developer experience (08:34) Trust in open vs. closed source AI models (10:52) Why most developer documentation sucks (17:02) The future of AI-powered interactive docs (23:25) Developer marketing tactics that actually work (27:30) How to balance hype and reality (30:42) Build with developers to gain their trust (32:06) How to recover from losing developer trust (37:01) Mastering the art of writing (42:08) Talk to them, listen carefully, and actually fix their problems Get the interview takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/lee-the-ultimate-guide-to-developer-marketing Where to find Lee: X: https://x.com/leeerob Website: https://leerob.io/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Chris Jones, partner at Silicon Valley Product Group. Chris and Marty Cagan wrote the best-selling book Empowered based on their 30+ years of experience working with 200+ companies. Their definition of “empowered vs. feature product teams” has created controversy, so I knew I had to chat with them. Chris and I had a heart-to-heart chat about empowered vs. feature teams, how to avoid becoming a feature factory, and how to take back control of your career. Timestamps: (00:00) What empowered really means (01:13) The difference between empowered and feature teams (04:58) Why companies stop being customer-focused (06:12) OKRs, processes, and bureaucracy (13:47) Be the go-to person to build trust with leaders(18:13) Quarterly metric targets lead to bad trade-offs (21:40) The trend towards small teams (23:00) Does empowerment matter in wartime (Airbnb)? (27:24) 3 types of product operating principles (30:23) Is Google still empowered? (33:40) How to avoid product review hell(36:15) The right way to push back on execs (41:08) Take back control of your career Where to find Chris: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisjonessvpg/ Get the interview takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/empowered-vs-feature-product-teams-chris-jones 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Miqdad Jaffer, ex-head of AI products at Shopify. Miqdad leads enterprise products at OpenAI and was previously Head of AI Products at Shopify. He also teaches Maven’s #1 AI PM course on building AI products inside companies. Miqdad and I spoke about: -- Why traditional product development doesn't work for AI - How to build product principles early to manage AI's infinite edge-case problem - The unconventional ways that Shopify "gets shit done" and ships products fast Timestamps: (00:00) Why building AI products is different (02:10) How Shopify's AI efforts got started (04:48) "Get shit done" product review process (08:13) Building AI products with customers (09:03) How to prioritize AI use cases (11:35) Setting goals for AI products (16:46) The AI tech stack explained (18:25) Protecting user data and privacy (19:49) Prompt engineering and evaluation (23:25) Is it worth training users to submit better prompts? (25:01) Managing AI hallucinations (26:55) Shopify's AI vision (28:41) Principles for building AI products (30:43) Shopify's craft and no meeting culture Where to find Miqdad: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/miqdadjaffer/ AI PM course: https://maven.com/product-faculty/ai-product-management-certification Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-shopify-built-generative-ai 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Dan Shipper, co-founder of Every. Dan co-founded Every and hosts a podcast called AI & I, where he has interviewed 25+ AI experts. He also recently launched Spiral, a new AI tool to help writers and creators save time and get more done. We had a great chat about how Dan uses AI to write, the traits that top AI experts have in common, and why “managers of AI models” could be a new career path. Timestamps: (00:00) Using AI to turn rambling thoughts into writing (00:57) Introducing Dan (01:56) Writing before AI existed (05:12) How AI helps in each step of the writing process (07:19) Using AI to summarize content (11:27) AI's role in podcast production (15:23) The common traits across AI power users (16:36) Tips to run your business with AI (18:37) Creating your personal AI coach (19:52) Why people struggle with using AI (22:04) Using AI to build apps without code (25:35) How the AI landscape is evolving (29:10) Managers of AI models as a new career (31:20) 3 steps for beginners to get started with AI Get the interview takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-to-use-ai-to-write-dan-shipper Where to find Dan: X: https://x.com/danshipper Newsletter and podcast: https://msha.ke/danshipper 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Siqi Chen, co-founder and CEO of Runway. Siqi is a 3x founder who’s an expert at using AI to scale his business and life. We discussed his favorite AI prompts and workflows, building a company where people "give a shit," and how to raise your kids and cheat death in an AI-first world. Timestamps: (00:00) Can AI solve death? (00:55) Introducing Siqi (01:08) The #1 startup lesson after 2 successful exits (04:09) What Runway's "give a shit" value means (06:25) Why "raising the bar" leads to business results (11:32) Why the best time to be a founder is now (15:32) How non-technical people can get started with AI (22:20) Using AI to categorize and filter emails without code (25:09) AI will either solve death or kill all of us (26:57) Encourage your kids to explore AI and take more risks (32:00) Motivating your team in difficult times (35:44) Believe in your vision, but be flexible about how you get there (37:08) How Runway will reimagine financial planning Where to find Siqi: X: https://x.com/blader Website: https://runway.com/ Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/siqi-chen-ai-hacks-from-a-3x-founder 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Nat Eliason, one of my favorite writers online. Nat is the author of Crypto Confidential, a real-life thriller about how he made and lost millions in crypto. We also talked about how Nat uses AI to edit his writing, why he pushes himself to do hard things like writing a sci-fi novel, and his advice for aspiring creators on avoiding the dark side of the creator economy. Nat is a personal inspiration to me. If you enjoy our conversation, please like and subscribe to support the podcast and check out Nat's new book: https://www.nateliason.com/crypto-confidential Timestamps: (00:00) Prove to yourself that you can do hard things (00:56) Introducing Nat (02:06) Using AI to edit his non-fiction writing (08:03) Why Nat is writing a sci-fi book (11:42) 3 ways Nat is using AI to write his sci-fi book (17:33) Using AI to fill in details about a sci-fi setting (19:22) Novel Crafter as an advanced AI writing tool (22:57) Why Nat got into crypto with a new baby coming (26:50) Nat's lowest moment in crypto losing $35,000 in one night (30:27) Why you must push yourself to do hard things (34:36) How Nat keeps motivated through small wins (38:26) The dark side of the creator economy (41:43) How to avoid making content that you hate (45:47) Advice for aspiring creators Where to find Nat: X: https://x.com/nateliason Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/do-hard-things-ai-nat-eliason 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Lane Shackleton, Chief Product Officer of Coda. Lane has interviewed hundreds of product teams from Figma, Uber, Spotify, and more as the chief product officer of Coda. He shared with me his favorite rituals from these interviews for crafting a vision, running product reviews, and making decisions. Timestamps: (00:00) Cathedrals, not bricks to craft a great vision (03:41) Moving beyond the 1-line vision with powerful artifacts (06:46) Translating vision to roadmap with quarterly plus OKRs (13:26) Why most product reviews fall short (16:08) How the Catalyst meeting makes reviews better (22:50) Two way write-ups to avoid the highest-paid person's opinion (26:31) How to learn by making, not talking (30:46) The trait that leaders and builders respect the most Get the templates for each ritual: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/rituals-and-templates-of-great-product-teams Where to find Lane: https://x.com/lshackleton 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Robbie Crabtree, founder of Competitive Storytelling. Robbie is a top storytelling coach who has helped hundreds of founders raise $600M+ through this skill. Before that, he perfected his storytelling craft as a trial lawyer who oversaw 100+ criminal cases. We talked about: - How to craft a great story - The two stories that every leader must have - How to deliver your story in a compelling way I’ve struggled with storytelling myself, and Robbie’s tips were incredibly helpful. If you enjoy our conversation, please like and subscribe to support the podcast. Timestamps: (00:00) The U-shaped approach to tell a great story (01:29) The essence of a great story in one line (02:46) Connecting personally with your audience (03:56) Why impromptu storytelling is a myth (05:26) The five-part storytelling framework (05:52) Defending a murder case example (10:44) Crafting a story in 10 words (22:17) The two essential stories every leader needs (28:09) Deliver a story people will never forget (32:12) Proven tactics to tell better stories Where to find Robbie:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbiecrab/Website: https://www.competitivestorytelling.co/ Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/unlock-your-storytelling-superpower 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Josh Miller, CEO of the Browser Company. Josh and his team built Arc, an AI-first browser that users can’t stop raving about. To take on Google Chrome, they’ve raised $550M from top investors such as LinkedIn’s Jeff Weiner and Figma’s Dylan Field. In our chat, Josh gives us an inside look at how the Browser Company crafts great products and hires top talent. Timestamps: (00:00) The #1 thing we look for to hire great talent (01:29) Why Josh wants to re-invent the browser (04:41) How to find and hire great people (08:11) Build with the community on day 1 (12:01) Inside crafting browser that uses AI to browse for you (15:18) Turn it up to 100 on just one thing (19:47) We only have 12-24 months to win (24:30) Balancing craft with time to market (30:18) How Arc thinks about monetization (35:45) Addressing publisher concerns with AI search (41:04) The secret to feeling fulfilled in your career Where to find Josh: X: https://x.com/joshm Website: https://thebrowser.company/ Get the interview takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/josh-miller-inside-ai-browser-product 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Dave Kline. David led teams at Bridgwater for 20+ years, working directly with billionaire Ray Dalio. Since then, he’s coached 1000s of leaders through his course and newsletter. We spoke about: - His journey from leader to solopreneur - How to manage up well - How to delegate and help others grow If you enjoy our conversation, please like and subscribe to support the podcast. Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/dave-kline-how-to-manage Timestamps: (00:00) The #1 mistake that new managers make (01:40) Top lesson from working with Ray Dalio (04:25) Dave's journey from leader to solopreneur (09:36) How to manage up without screwing up (14:42) Asking for constructive feedback the right way (19:01) Taking a strategic approach to getting promoted (25:39) Why you should create a personal brand at your company (26:18) The importance of delegating until it hurts (30:29) Managing high and low performers (35:16) A personal story of when harsh feedback forced Dave to grow Where to find Dave: Newsletter: https://mgmt.beehiiv.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidkline/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Scott Belsky, Adobe’s Chief Strategy Officer and Executive Vice President of Design and Emerging Products. Scott has also advised 100s of startups and writes a popular newsletter called Implications. I spoke to Scott about: Why the talent stack is collapsing and what you can do about it How to improve the first-mile experience of your product The 4P framework for building generative AI products Scott is a leader who obsesses about customer empathy and keeping high performing teams as small as possible. If you enjoy our conversation, please like and subscribe to support the podcast. Timestamps: (00:00) Why empathy must come before vision(02:02) How the talent stack is collapsing(04:50) How employees can prep for smaller teams and AI(07:00) The ideal design to PM relationship is they’re the same person(13:50) Improve the first-mile experience of a product(19:00) Principles for building AI products at Adobe(22:47) How to talk to people who are anti-AI(25:25) The 4P framework for navigating AI products Where to find me: Newsletter: https://creatoreconomy.so/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Ethan Evans, former VP at Amazon. Ethan rose to VP at Amazon over 15 years and then retired to make $700,000 teaching product leaders while only working 20 hours a week. Ethan and I talked about: The magic loop to level up at any company and how to get unstuck How to systematically build trust with leadership How to build a $700K+ business while working part time Ethan is an incredible career coach and product leader. If you enjoy our conversation, please like and subscribe to support the podcast. Timestamps: (00:00) Why trust is built more in negative events (02:11) The Magic Loop framework to grow your career (04:46) Where people get stuck in the Magic Loop (07:09) How to ask your manager for constructive feedback (11:02) The #1 thing that leaders need to do well (16:38) How to build a strong relationship with your manager (22:51) How Ethan built trust by taking a risk to disagree with his SVP (29:41) How NVIDIA succeeded by simply surviving (31:28) How Ethan recovered from failing Jeff Bezos (37:39) Making $700K a year in retirement as a creator (44:31) Every tech person should be doing this Where to find me: Newsletter: https://creatoreconomy.so/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Paul Adams, Chief Product Officer of Intercom. When ChatGPT launched, Paul and the Intercom team blew up their roadmap to go all in on AI. Since then, they’ve built an AI-first customer service suite that can provide accurate answers to customers 24/7. Paul and I spoke about: 1. How PMs and designers can skill up on AI and get hired to work on AI products 2. Why you may not want to start with the problem when building AI products 3. How Intercom blew up its roadmap to build an AI chatbot that can resolve 50% of support queries without a human Paul is a thoughtful product leader – be sure to subscribe if you enjoy our conversation. Timestamps: (00:00) Will AI make us dumber and lazier?(01:32) How PMs and designers can skill up on AI(05:05) AI will further separate great vs. mediocre PMs(09:00) The rise of “AI PMs” and how to learn without the BS(13:44) What Paul looks for when hiring people to work on AI(16:32) How building AI products is different(21:05) Why is customer support so terrible(26:48) How AI will transform customer support(31:03) Will AI hurt customer support jobs?(33:00) Why AI products challenge “start with the customer problem”(38:26) Think big, start small, ship to learn(46:08) Closing words for advice for building in the age of AI Where to find me: Newsletter: https://creatoreconomy.so/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Alex Cornell, Director of Design at Meta AI. Alex is one of the best product designers I’ve ever worked with. He helped design Facebook, Substack, Linear, and an app for family and friends called Cocoon. We talked about: - Lessons from designing at Meta, Substack, and Linear - How interface design will change with generative AI - How anyone can start learning design right now This interview is a must-watch if you’re interested in design at all. If you enjoy our conversation, please like and subscribe to support the podcast. Timestamps: (00:00) How to build good design taste (01:44) The #1 mistake that designers make (04:09) How to start designing a new product (15:02) Lessons from designing Substack and Linear’s mobile apps (23:35) Ideal design environment - big companies or startups? (26:17) Balancing North Star vs. what’s shipping next (32:42) How Alex uses AI in his personal life (39:17) 3 ways for anyone to learn how to design Where to find Alex: https://twitter.com/alexcornell https://www.alexcornell.com/ Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/alex-cornell-best-designer-that-i-worked-with

My guest today is Yuhki Yamashita, Chief Product Officer of Figma. Yuhki and I talked about how Figma: - Created a culture where employees love their craft - Builds AI products to solve real user problems - Plans to make design accessible to everyone Yuhki is a great storyteller and shares an inside look at how Figma’s amazing product culture works. If you enjoy our conversation, please like and subscribe to support the podcast. Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/yuhki-inside-how-figma-built-figjam-ai Timestamps : (00:00) How PMs should collaborate with designers (04:00) How to hire people who care about craft (05:20) Balancing craft with moving metrics and optics (07:43) Tips to get better at storytelling (10:52) How Figjam evolved from Figma (12:45) Why fun is a pillar for Figma products (16:59) Evaluating AI use cases for Figjam (19:01) Quality is everything with AI products (24:31) How to balance power user and new user needs (29:24) Best way for PMs to learn design (31:45) Embracing AI in work and creativity Where to find me: Newsletter: https://creatoreconomy.so/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Dan Siroker, CEO of Limitless. In just 24 hours after launch, Dan and team sold over 10,000 AI pendants to help people augment their memory with what they’ve seen, said, and heard - making Limitless arguably the fastest growing AI wearable in the market. In this short interview, Dan and I talked about: - His journey to create the world’s most wearable AI - How the team ships fast without compromising quality - How he manages his time with 3 kids Dan also co-founded Optimizely and is one of my favorite entrepreneurs to follow. If you enjoy our conversation, please like and subscribe to support the podcast. Timestamps: (00:00) Why Dan started Limitless(02:19) Dan’s experience of losing his hearing(03:12) Exploring the idea maze of personal AI(04:55) Why the team decided to build an AI wearable(06:40) How someone’s life could change with Limitless(11:10) How to ship fast but still keep a high quality bar(13:34) How to decide what scope to focus on(15:45) How to attract and hire great talent(17:47) Why you should hire slow(19:12) Dan’s thoughts on product management(20:55) Balancing entrepreneurship and family Where to find me: Newsletter: https://creatoreconomy.so/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon

My guest today is Wes Kao, co-founder of Maven, a very popular online course platform. Wes and I talked about how to create, market, and teach an online course and make $20,000 or more per cohort. I especially love Wes’ frameworks about how to: Build a spiky point of view to stand out with real examples And use the state change method to keep people interested Timestamps: 00:00 Spiky point of view 01:11 Introducing Wes Cao and the Power of Online Courses 01:42 Wes Cao's Journey: From Marketing to Maven Co-Founder 04:00 The Rise of Cohort-Based Learning with Maven 06:16 Empowering Operators to Share Their Expertise 10:03 Creating Your Course: Market Demand Meets Passion 13:51 The Essence of a Spiky Point of View 18:51 Leveraging Spiky Points of View for Course Creation 21:31 Unlocking Creative Writing: Beyond Traditional Controls 22:00 The Power of Risk in Sharing Bold Ideas 22:07 Content Creation: The Unpredictable Success of Authenticity 22:20 Decoding the Secret Formula of Viral Content 22:26 A Decade of Blogging: The Evolution of a Writer 22:50 Marketing First, Building Later: A New Approach 23:03 Case Study: Shivani Berry's Path to Course Success 24:24 Expanding Reach: Leveraging Other Audiences 27:39 Selling While Teaching: The Subtle Art 29:38 Engaging Cohort Courses: The State Change Method 32:18 Simplifying the Creator's Journey: Focus and Strategy 38:33 Closing Advice and Resources for Aspiring Creators Where to find me: Newsletter: https://creatoreconomy.so/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Brian Balfour, CEO of Reforge. Brian and I did a deep dive into how 4 of the best AI products grew so fast. We spoke about: Why ChatGPT is investing in custom GPTs How Midjourney grew to $200M ARR despite an interface that relies on Discord How Perplexity is competing with Google Search How LinkedIn collaborative articles combine AI and user growth loops Brian is one of the best growth leaders out there so I hope you enjoy our conversation. Consider subscribing for more great interviews every week. Timestamps: [00:00] The decline of Google Search [02:13] Why no one should try to copy ChatGPT's growth [04:33] Many AI products struggle with retention [07:39] Why OpenAI is investing in custom GPTs [13:56] How Midjourney grew to $200M ARR off Discord [21:22] Hardcore AI users vs. casual AI users [21:49] Perplexity's challenge to Google Search [25:12] The SEO industry is a mess [29:22] Growth loops fueling LinkedIn's collaborative articles [35:08] How AI will impact the growth profession Where to find me: Newsletter: https://creatoreconomy.so/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guest today is Jackie Bavaro, author of Cracking the PM Career and Cracking the PM Interview, two of the most popular books on product management out there. Jackie was also head of PM at Asana. I spoke to Jackie about: 1. How to be more strategic 2. How to define a great vision and strategy for your team 3. How to communicate your strategy to the rest of the company There are so many misconceptions about strategy, but Jackie makes everything crystal clear. Consider subscribing for more great interviews every week. Chapter timestamps: [00:00] Three parts of a great product strategy [02:56] A personal story on why strategy matters [07:05] Vision, strategic framework, and roadmap [10:29] When to start thinking about strategy [13:35] How to bring your vision to life [16:47] Breaking down the strategic framework [17:13] Master the framework for market domination [22:04] Think of a roadmap like a charcuterie board [25:09] A checklist is not a strategy [29:11] How to get exec buy-in for your strategy [31:54] Communicate principles to guide decisions Where to find me: Newsletter: https://creatoreconomy.so/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

My guests today are Sanchan (ex-general manager at Airbnb), Nickey (Product Director at Duolingo) and John (Senior Director at Toast). We talked about: 1. How the PM role is changing 2. Our favorite PM use cases for AI 3. How to avoid PM title envy to pick your own path Over 200 people tuned into this conversation live so I think you’ll love it too. Chapter Timestamps [00:00] Less internal shenanigans, more customer focus [03:30] Why companies are tired of product managers [07:44] Thoughts on Airbnb merging products with marketing [10:25] How Airbnb builds products using narratives [13:09] Designing the right incentives for PMs [17:03] How Duolingo incentivizes PMs to focus on customer obsession [18:34] Why more PMs should pursue building vs. manager [22:01] How the PM and design relationship is evolving [26:08] Getting hired in today's tough tech jobs market [29:41] How to ramp up on AI and get your hands dirty [32:55] Favorite AI use cases for PM [36:25] How to think about what you want in the PM career ladder [41:15] How to talk to users to get useful feedback [42:25] How to be a great product leader in post-ZIRP era [45:27] Your number one career skill is how to smell out orgs Where to find me: Newsletter: https://creatoreconomy.so/ 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Elena Verna is a solopreneur who has served as head of growth at Dropbox, Amplitude, Miro, and more. Elena and I talked about: 1. Why she left a full-time role to work for herself 2. The five laws of growth and how they can be applied to careers 3. Her advice for people who want to explore solopreneurship Elena is incredibly inspiring and I think you’ll love our conversation. Brought to you by: • Amplitude – Get the free product-led growth guide: https://bit.ly/498xoLz Chapter timestamps: [00:00] Make imposter syndrome your superpower [01:10] Elena's journey from entry-level to executive [03:00] Finding exponential growth paths in your career [07:00] What led Elena to explore solopreneurship [09:59] The benefits of advisory roles [12:33] Step by step on how to get started advising [15:18] Pitching to a company why advising is better than full-time [18:19] How Elena applies growth loops to her business [22:18] The five laws of growth and how they apply to your career [26:48] Learn how to fail to learn how to win [28:31] Build career optionality to not be at the whim of companies [31:29] Your business needs clear positioning ("why you?") Where to find Elena: X: https://twitter.com/ElenaVerna LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elenaverna/ Get the interview takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/elena-verna-growth-to-solopreneur

Kaz Neyatian is the Chief Operating Officer of Shopify. Kaz and I spoke about about: 1. Why traditional career ladders are broken 2. Why strategy is the least important part of building products 3. Why Shopify canceled all recurring meetings. I think this interview will feel like therapy if you’ve worked at big tech companies. Brought to you by: • Figma–My favorite design suite for creators and teams https://psxid.figma.com/qyj56p0lygjt Chapter timestamps: [00:00] Nobody ever dreamed of sitting in meetings [01:15] The difference between crafters and managers [02:31] Traditional career ladders just don't work [04:36] Our job is to rage against being a big company [05:43] Strategy is the least meaningful aspect of product [07:15] People misunderstand how great products are built [09:57] We're not an OKR company [11:23] Why there are so few good product managers [12:25] Operation Chaos Monkey to remove meetings [15:26] Why managers need to value their personal craft time [16:06] Why there are always no meeting rooms available [18:22] How to reduce meetings on your calendar [21:02] Just because someone else does it is a bad reason [23:33] The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing Where to find Kaz: X: https://twitter.com/CanadaKaz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kasranejatian/ Get the interview takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/kaz-coo-shopify-craft-and-no-meetings Try Figma for free: https://psxid.figma.com/qyj56p0lygjt 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Fareed Mosavat is a growth veteran who has worked at Reforge, Slack, Instacart, Pixar, and other top companies. We had some real talk about how to: 1. Cross the chasm from product manager to product leader 2. Not confuse the work behind the work with the actual work 3. Look beyond traditional job titles to chart your own career path Fareed is one of my favorite product leaders and I think you’ll love our conversation. Brought to you by: Figma–My favorite design tool for creators and teams: https://psxid.figma.com/qyj56p0lygjt Chapter timestamps: 00:00 Focus on the work that actually matters 02:17 The PM to product leader chasm 06:21 The manager death spiral 08:49 Rethinking PM roles 10:44 How small teams can achieve big results 16:17 Why PM performance theater needs to end 19:29 Designing the right incentives for PM orgs 24:34 Why Fareed chose impact over titles 28:33 How to find work that you love 34:19 Why external exec hires often don't work out 39:00 How to be your own customer Where to find Fareed: X: https://twitter.com/far33d LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fareed/ Get the interview takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/fareed-real-talk-about-the-pm-career 📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!

Claire Vo is the Chief Product Officer of LaunchDarkly and ex-CPO of Color and Optimizely. Claire believes that it’s never been a better time to be a strong IC PM and has built a career ladder where the best individual contributors report directly to the C-suite. We spoke about: 1. Why PM performance theater needs to end 2. How to pursue the super IC PM career path 3. How IC PMs can use AI to excel at their job Claire had so many hot takes throughout and I think you’ll love our interview. Chapter timestamps: 00:00 Welcome Claire 01:39 The Importance of the IC Path 04:08 The Limitations of Frameworks 05:20 Designing a Better Ladder for PMs 09:39 The Changing Landscape for PMs 11:55 Why Fast Beats Right 16:20 The Coaches, Captains, and Players Framework 19:16 Traits of Great ICs 23:55 Protecting Craft Time 28:48 The Chat PRD and AI Journey 33:13 The Future of PMs with AI Where to find Claire: X: https://twitter.com/clairevo LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairevo/ Get the interview takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/claire-vo-why-its-time-for-ic-product-manager Try Figma for free: https://psxid.figma.com/qyj56p0lygjt 📌 Subscribe to this channel - more videos coming soon!