The Co-Creator of Kubernetes On Convincing Google, Building It, and Scaling for LLMs
The Co-Creator of Kubernetes On Convincing Google, Building It, and Scaling for LLMs  
Podcast: The Peterman Pod
Published On: Mon Mar 23 2026
Description: This is a conversation with Brendan Burns, co-creator of Kubernetes and current technical fellow at Microsoft working on Azure. We discussed what it was like building it at Google, how he got buy-in, and what he learned along the way.🔸 My keyboard project: https://read.compose.llc/p/our-keyboard-design-reveal𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀:• YouTube: https://youtu.be/FKijpCEH9D8• Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835• Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/the-creator-of-kubernetes-on-building𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:00:00:00 - Intro00:00:37 - How he convinced Google leaders00:09:26 - Building the MVP00:11:43 - How he made time for Kubernetes00:25:28 - Technical details on building Kubernetes00:38:46 - Rallying the open source community00:50:01 - Scaling Kubernetes up for AI training workloads00:55:31 - Reflections on getting a PhD01:00:22 - The inevitable trajectory of software is death01:04:16 - Top book recommendations01:05:22 - Advice for his younger self01:06:21 - Outro𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗕𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗱𝗮𝗻:• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendan-burns-487aa590/• Twitter/X: https://x.com/brendandburns• Github: https://github.com/brendandburns𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝘆𝗮𝗻:• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman