John Tamny & Adam Michel: How Should We Think About America’s Debt?
John Tamny & Adam Michel: How Should We Think About America’s Debt?  
Podcast: Future of Freedom
Published On: Mon Dec 22 2025
Description: On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the country’s debt and annual deficit. First on the show is John Tamny, President of Parkview Institute, Editor at RealClearMarkets, and author of The Deficit Delusion. Later, we hear from Adam Michel, director of tax policy studies at the Cato Institute and author of the recent essay, “The Deficit Trap.” You can find John on X @JohnTamny and Adam at @AdamNMichel. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.