Jack Smith Fights Back—and Why the Midterms Matter (with Rep. Ted Lieu)
Podcast: The Oath and The OfficePublished On: Thu Oct 08 2026
Description: Jack Smith turns the tables on his congressional questioners and doubles down on why he indicted Donald Trump. Corey Brettschneider and John Fugelsang break down the fiery hearing, the threats of prosecution against Smith, and what this battle over accountability reveals about the upcoming midterms. Plus: Can Democrats win in red states, and what would taking back Congress actually accomplish?Then, Congressman Ted Lieu joins Corey to discuss his proposed AI “kill switch” legislation, the dangers of unchecked artificial intelligence, and federal efforts to stop the sale of presidential pardons.Learn more about our sponsor, Americans United for Separation of Church and State: https://www.au.org/tenc/Timestamps:00:52 – Intro05:02 – Jack Smith is Grilled in the Senate23:32 – Which States We’re Watching in the Midterms46:07 – Congressman Lieu on AI Regulation55:31 – What Legislation Do We Need to Restrain the Pardon Power?01:01:16 – How Congress Can Keep Trump in Line
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