Patrick Collison on programming languages, AI, and Stripe's biggest engineering decisions
Patrick Collison on programming languages, AI, and Stripe's biggest engineering decisions  
Podcast: Cursor
Published On: Thu Jul 17 2025
Description: Michael Truell (CEO of Cursor) sits down with Patrick Collison (CEO of Stripe) to discuss programming languages, the role of AI in programming, and building long-lasting software.00:15 Why Patrick wrote his first startup in Smalltalk03:35 LISP chatbots06:09 Good ideas from esoteric programming languages09:12 Brett Victor and Dynamicland16:37 Programming human organizations20:28 A codebase's "Big Bang" moment and MongoDB25:49 Rewriting Stripe32:00 How do you, Patrick Collison, use AI?38:25 Changes to GDP/TFP41:56 Programming human biology46:10 Unexpected beneficiaries of AI