More Happier: Talking Romance Writing with Stacey Abrams and Lori Gottlieb
More Happier: Talking Romance Writing with Stacey Abrams and Lori Gottlieb  
Podcast: Happier with Gretchen Rubin
Published On: Sat Aug 23 2025
Description: In this Roundtable discussion, we explore the role of romance in fiction and real life. Author and political leader Stacey Abrams explains how she weaves it into her suspense novels by focusing on authentic human connection, while therapist Lori Gottlieb brings her perspective on love off the page. Together, we look at how romance is imagined, experienced, and sustained today. Resources & links related to this episode: Stacey Abrams Lori Gottlieb Gretchen Rubin Get in touch: podcast@gretchenrubin.com Visit Gretchen's website to learn more about Gretchen's best-selling books, products from The Happiness Project Collection, and the Happier app. Find the transcript for this episode on the episode details page in the Apple Podcasts app. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.