The Anti-D.E.I. Crusader Who Wants to Dismantle the Department of Education
The Anti-D.E.I. Crusader Who Wants to Dismantle the Department of Education  
Podcast: Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Published On: Sun Apr 06 2025
Description: Christopher Rufo brought the term "critical race theory" into mainstream conversation. Now, the anti-DEI activist is bringing his critiques of education to the White House. In this episode, Ross explores Rufo's mission to make universities feel "existential terror."Editors’ note: This episode originally aired on the “Matter of Opinion” podcast on Mar. 7, 2025.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)  Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.