Ep. - 1460 - NANCY SALZMAN: PART TWO
Ep. - 1460 - NANCY SALZMAN: PART TWO  
Podcast: Reality Life with Kate Casey
Published On: Wed Nov 19 2025
Description: Nancy Salzman, former president and co-founder of Executive Success Programs (ESP), returns for the second part of her first-ever post-prison interview. After co-founding ESP with Keith Raniere in 1998, the company grew into the larger umbrella organization NXIVM—originally promoted as an elite personal development and leadership training community.   In this second part of her conversation with Kate, Nancy speaks openly about the unraveling of NXIVM, the legal fallout that followed, and the personal reckoning she faced as she prepared to plead guilty. She discusses the complex blend of loyalty, denial, and awakening that preceded her arrest; her experience inside federal prison; and the emotional and psychological work required to confront her own responsibility.     Reality Life with Kate Casey What to Watch List: https://katecasey.substack.com Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/katecasey Twitter: https://twitter.com/katecasey Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/katecaseyca Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@itskatecasey?lang=en Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/113157919338245 Amazon List: https://www.amazon.com/shop/katecasey Like it to Know It: https://www.shopltk.com/explore/katecaseySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.