Why Relationships Create Fortunes—and Transactions Don’t with Todd Duncan
Why Relationships Create Fortunes—and Transactions Don’t with Todd Duncan  
Podcast: The Way with Dino Katsiametis
Published On: Tue Dec 23 2025
Description: In this powerful episode of The Way, Dino sits down with the legendary coach, author, and industry icon to unpack over four decades of hard-won lessons on building a business that doesn’t just produce income — but creates freedom, longevity, and real wealth.Todd shares why most loan officers stay stuck trading time for money, how systems unlock scale, and why relationships — not transactions — are the real asset in any lasting business.The conversation dives deep into coaching, mindset, AI-powered learning, referral economics, and why slowing down is often the fastest way to grow.This is not theory. This is proven execution from one of the most trusted voices in lending.What You’ll Learn in This EpisodeWhy transactions create income, but relationships create fortunesThe “slow down to speed up” principle that transforms careersHow Todd built referral-driven businesses without chasing leadsWhy most loan officers confuse being busy with being productiveThe real purpose of coaching — beyond learning how to do loansHow systems create freedom, scale, and a sellable businessThe power of referral-by-design vs. transactional marketingWhy confidence determines conversion more than scriptsHow AI coaching and role-play are changing learning foreverWhat it takes to build a business that lasts decades — not cyclesThanks for listening to "The Way With Dino Katsiametis" For full show notes, links, and extra episode resources, visit dinokatsiametis.com. Follow Dino for weekly clips and mortgage leadership insights on instagram.com/dinokatsiametis | linkedin.com/in/dinokatsiametis Learn more about Ethos Lending at ethoslending.com.