303. What can veterans teach us about leadership? With Danny Wareham, Major General (Ret) Matt Smith and James Hardie
303. What can veterans teach us about leadership? With Danny Wareham, Major General (Ret) Matt Smith and James Hardie  
Podcast: Truth, Lies and Work
Published On: Thu May 21 2026
Description: Welcome back to this special live edition of Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning workplace podcast where behavioural science meets workplace culture. This week, Al, Leanne and Associate Producer Georgia, are joined by three exceptional experts to explore a straightforward but powerful question: what does the military do differently when it comes to leadership, and what can businesses actually learn from it? Most organisations say leadership matters, but many are just guessing. We promote based on length of service, confuse being "in charge" with being a leader, and create cultures where capable people are too afraid to speak up. The military, however, has spent decades perfecting the art of building instant trust and providing the clarity needed for independent action. 🔥 Key Themes Covered 1. What 'Mission Command' Actually Means James Hardie and Major General Matt Smith break down the concept of Mission Command: providing a clear goal and the "commander's intent," then trusting your people to figure out the "how". While most businesses are flexible at the top and rigid at the bottom, the military provides a structure that empowers disciplined initiative at every level. 2. Trust as a Starting Point, Not a Prize Danny Wareham explains the "trust gap." In the military, trust is often assumed based on shared competency; it only reduces if proven otherwise. In civilian life, we often make people earn it slowly through "presenteeism" and internal politics, which slows down performance and kills initiative. 3. Leadership Emerges, It Isn't Assigned We discuss the concept of leaderless leadership (or constellation leadership). If the mission and culture are strong enough, they can effectively replace the need for a traditional "boss". We explore how leadership should shift situationally to whoever has the most relevant expertise in the moment. 4. The "Liminal State" of Transition James discusses his research on the experience of veterans moving into civilian roles. He describes the "liminality"—the uncertain journey between two identities—and why veterans often struggle, not because they lack skills, but because civilian organisations aren't built to receive what they bring. 5. Calmness Under Pressure Major General Matt Smith shares a powerful story from ground combat in Afghanistan, illustrating that a leader's most effective tool in a crisis isn't shouting—it's maintaining a level of calmness that signals to the team that everything is under control. 🎙️ The Guests Danny Wareham: Certified Business Psychologist and author of Constellation. LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danny-wareham Website: firgun.co.uk Major General (Ret) Matt Smith: A 32-year US Army veteran and head of the Master in Business for Veterans programme at Emory University. LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/smithmattd James Hardie: Former RAF helicopter pilot and organisational psychologist. LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/james-hardie72 Website: coursecorrection.co.uk 📬 Connect with the show – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork – Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott – Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne – Georgia Hodkinson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-hodkinson-gmbpss/ – Email: hello@truthliesandwork.com – Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat Mental health support UK & ROI — Samaritans Call 116 123 or visit https://www.samaritans.org UK — Mind Call 0300 123 3393 or visit https://www.mind.org.uk US — Suicide & Crisis Lifeline Call or text 988 or visit https://988lifeline.org Australia — Lifeline Call 13 11 14 or visit https://www.lifeline.org.au Global helplines: https://findahelpline.com