The Leisure Gap, Princess Treatment, and Other Hard Truths About "Soft Life"
The Leisure Gap, Princess Treatment, and Other Hard Truths About "Soft Life"  
Podcast: The Money with Katie Show
Published On: Wed Nov 05 2025
Description: There is perhaps nobody in the financial education space who knows her way around the National Bureau of Economic Research quite like Stefanie O’Connell Rodriguez. If Chapter 2 of Rich Girl Nation were sentient, it would probably sound a lot like Stefanie. Today on the show, I’m picking her brain about the current state of what she calls “the ambition penalty.” Subscribe to our Wednesday email: ⁠https://moneywithkatie.com/newsletter⁠Get your copy of Rich Girl Nation, recently named one of Barnes & Noble's Best Business Books of 2025:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://moneywithkatie.com/rich-girl-nation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits will be available within a week at: ⁠⁠⁠https://moneywithkatie.com/ambition-penalty.—Money with Katie’s mission is to be the intersection where the economic, cultural, and political meet the tactical, practical, personal finance education everyone needs.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.katiegattitassin.com