My Mother Sent Me to Get Conversion Therapy (Escaping the IBLP Cult) ft. @MatthewandPaulOfficial ​
My Mother Sent Me to Get Conversion Therapy (Escaping the IBLP Cult) ft. @MatthewandPaulOfficial ​  
Podcast: Cults to Consciousness
Rating: Explicit Published On: Wed Aug 06 2025
Description: The Institute in Basic Life Principles, run by the predatory Bill Gothard, would turn thousands of families into their own isolated cults. Matthew Castle was trapped in his own family until his mid twenties. Shielded from the outside world and musically stifled, his talent on the violin was so impressive, multiple colleges including Juilliard tried recruiting him as a young teen. However, without choice in the matter, those dreams were quickly torn away. His mother was so strict and controlling, she even drove him to and from a local college ensuring he wasn’t led astray by the evil world. When she found his personal journal, revealing his sexuality, she immediately sent him to a cult approved conversion therapy conference. Learn how Matthew finally escaped, acclimated to the real world, and eventually found the love of his life– Paul. Click here to watch on YouTubeStreaming platforms: Matthew CastleYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MatthewandPaulOfficialInstagram:  @matthewandpaul Paul’s books:  https://paulcastlestudio.com/Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannFind us on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousness Host Instagram @sheliseann Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_ TikTok @cults.to.consciousness Twitter @cultstocon **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**Chapter Marks00:04:48 What Matthew's early education was like and how his parent's got involved in the Advanced Training Institute00:06:10 How the "Umbrella of Authority" and other IBLP teachings changed the family's way of thinking00:10:41 Matthew's s*xuality and the dichotomy between his feelings and what he was being taught00:14:34 Music in the IBLP movement and how even some classical composers were taboo00:17:52 How even classical music was a tie to the secular world for Matthew00:20:24 How Bill Gothard's beliefs prevented Matthew from attending the most prestigious music schools in the country00:26:18 Matthew's experiences at the IBLP institutes00:28:11 Matthew's opinion of Bill Gothard and the favoritism in the group00:29:01 Bill's pr*datory nature towards young women00:31:31 Bill's near fat*l encounter with Matthew's father00:33:30 The discovery of Matthew's journal and the beginning of the end00:37:31 Matthew's experience at a conversion conference00:41:42 Matthew's last straw and how he escaped00:43:24 What it felt like to leave and how Matthew started to discover himself00:48:22 Paul enters the chat!00:49:26 What it was like for Matthew to starting dating and meeting his partner Paul00:56:23 What secular things Paul has introduced to Matthew01:01:01 How Matthew has learned to identify his feelings and communicate after leaving IBLP01:03:59 What brings Matthew joy today01:06:38 Linda, listenSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.