Trump Can’t Pardon State Crimes. He’s Trying Anyway. (w/ Liz Oyer)
Podcast: Bulwark TakesPublished On: Tue Nov 11 2025
Description: Sam Stein speaks with Former U.S. Pardon Attorney Liz Oyer for her take on Trump's latest round of pardons for Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis and several other top officials who tried to overturn the 2020 election. Liz warns about how Trump's pardons are "blatantly corrupt" and could test how far presidential pardon power can go. You can follow Liz's writing here: https://www.lawyeroyer.com/
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