Don't Listen To Us with Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody
Don't Listen To Us with Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody

Don’t Listen to Us is an advice show for advice-skeptics and wisdom-lovers, hosted by Mandy Patinkin, Kathryn Grody, and their son Gideon. Legendary actor Mandy (The Princess Bride, Homeland, Criminal Minds) is the consummate entertainer who shoots from the hip, stage actress Kathryn is the thoughtful connector who sees all the nuance, and Gideon is the brave soul keeping them on track (or at least trying). Together, Mandy and Kathryn have 40+ years of marriage, 140+ years of life experience, and a series of viral social media posts where Gideon interviews them and watches both chaos and wisdom ensue. They don’t always agree on what advice to give—in fact, they rarely do. But they draw from their highs and lows as artists, parents, lovers, and humans, to give their unique take on real dilemmas submitted by you -- the listeners. Hang out with this family and you’ll walk away with insights you didn’t expect, stories you’ll want to repeat, and comfort knowing that you’re not alone in figuring out how to survive this fakakta world.

Roaches. Drug heists. Burglaries. Sandwiches. Welcome to New York. In this anything-goes episode, we pause your questions and dive into our unbelievable and sometimes oddly hilarious stories about life in NYC, including when we were young, struggling actors. Plus, a tale about Martin Sheen that goes nowhere. Oh, and an easter egg revealed that you haven’t noticed yet. Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. 👉 Subscribe so you don’t miss a new episode every week! 🎧 Listen to the podcast on all platforms: https://lemonada.lnk.to/DontListenToUsYT  📱Follow us: @mandypatinkin @lemonadamedia  #MandyPatinkin #KathrynGrody #Podcast #DontListenToUs Head over to Booking.com and start your listing today. Chapters: 00:00 This week on our podcast… 01:07 An enthused hello. Plus, Gideon’s first love(s).  02:32 The easter egg reveal. Did you catch it?  03:30 Travel, Venice and rats.  07:04 City living, nudity and bathroom windows. 13:51 Biking in New York City. Mandy confronts Gideon on not sharing stories about his life. 17:26 The legend of Peanuts.  20:48 Our first reference in this episode to the Martin Sheen story that goes nowhere.  21:26 Mandy reminisces on his early days as a struggling actor in NY and shares a wild story involving his mom. 28:38 Kathryn’s first cookie drug deal and her maybe, kind of close encounter with a drug heist.  33:09 When Kathrny’s dad visited her during her early days in NY. 35:10 Gideon tries to explain the sexual practice of sounding to his parents.  37:25 Becky serenades us! 38:05 Byebyes. Credits. Send us your questions.
What can a 93-year-old teach us about life, creativity, and happiness? Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody sit down with a 93-year-old artist to talk about aging, staying creative, and finding joy at every stage of life. They also answer a listener question about how to raise hopeful kids in difficult times, and a game of Would You Rather? takes an unexpected (and hilarious) turn. Have a question, story, or unspeakable thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or email askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.  👉 Subscribe, so you don’t miss a new episode every week! 🎧 Listen on all platforms: https://lemonada.lnk.to/DontListenToUsYT  📱 Follow: @mandypatinkin @lemonadamedia #MandyPatinkin #KathrynGrody #Podcast #DontListenToUs #LifeAdvice #Creativity #Parenting Chapters: 00:00 Coming Up: Life Advice From a 93-Year-Old 00:51 Mandy Gets Swallowed by a Whale 02:18 Listener Question: Parenting Kids in Dark Times 04:13 How to Raise Hopeful Kids Today 07:12 Why Activism and Community Matter 11:05 Using History to Stay Hopeful 14:30 Meet Doris Peltzman, Age 93 15:51 How Gideon Met Doris 20:33 How to Protect Your Creative Spark 22:19 Choosing Joy Every Day 23:15 How Creativity Changes With Age 24:19 Creativity Is Being Alive 26:05 Why Comparing Your Work Can Hurt Creativity 27:07 What Life Is Like in Your Nineties 28:54 Unexpected Kindness From Strangers 32:19 Advice From a 93-Year-Old: Keep Growing 34:38 Would You Rather? Game 38:19 Send Us Your Art! 38:50 Outro & Credits
This episode originally aired on October 22, 2025. How to feel young when the body gets old, why joy is resistance, and a call from Brit about blowing up her professional life. Also, Gideon shocks Mandy and Kathryn with a family secret.  Have a question, story, or weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Why do we discourage people from a career in the arts? A young person talks to Mandy & Kathryn about how to make it in musical theatre. Hint: Broadway shouldn’t be the goal. Plus, a peak inside Gideon’s brain - as a kid doing performance art about his neighbours. Oh, and the Road Runner makes an appearance. Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.  Head over to Booking.com and start your listing today. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
If you move somewhere new and hate it… do you stick it out or start over? Mandy and Kathryn have very different answers. In this episode, they get into moving regret, how to decide whether to stay or leave, and the emotional reality of starting over in a new place. Also: creative and surprising ways to cope with grief, the rituals that keep people we’ve lost close, and Kathryn reveals her secret, longstanding hatred of jokes. Mandy and Kathryn’s guest is Carla Fernandez, author of Renegade Grief: A Guide to the Wild Ride of Life After Loss.  Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Ever wonder what your pet actually thinks of you? We sit down with an Animal Communicator and Pet Psychic who reads Becky, our dog. Let’s just say, we may never look at Becky the same way again! Plus, Mandy’s surprising story of when he was offered The Princess Bride. Oh, and what we really (maybe) would’ve done if acting didn’t work out. Please note - We record these episodes in advance so we don’t always get to respond in real time to what’s going on in the world. Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.  For a limited time, go to Care.com and use code DONTLISTEN for 20% off your initial subscription or Senior Care Advisor Plan. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This episode exists because of you! We’re diving into some of the weirdest, funniest, and most unexpectedly moving listener messages we’ve received lately—and one letter absolutely devastates Mandy and Kathryn. Also: some highly questionable dream interpretation and an unscientific ice cream taste test: dairy vs. alternative milks in a frozen dessert death match. Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.  For a limited time, go to Care.com and use code DONTLISTEN for 20% off your initial subscription or Senior Care Advisor Plan. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
If you’ve ever argued over the “right” way to load a dishwasher, this one’s for you. A special episode…in the kitchen! Kathryn and Mandy test a listener’s famous potato recipe. Chaos ensues. Plus, why turf wars in the kitchen are so common. Oh, and are hot dogs sandwiches or tacos?  Please note - We often record these episodes in advance so we don’t always get to respond in real time to what’s going on in the world. Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.  Head to MarleySpoon.com/offer/DONTLISTEN for 45% off your first order and free delivery.  For a limited time, go to Care.com and use code DONTLISTEN for 20% off your initial Care.com subscription or a Senior Care Advisor Plan. Rachel’s famous potato recipe: It’s important to use yellow or gold potatoes - smaller is better but any yellow potato is fine. First, preheat oven to 425F. 1) quarter the potatoes and then halve the quarters if they are on the bigger side / you want largish bite sized pieces 2) put them in a pot of water and add a good amount kosher salt 3) boil, stirring here and there, till tender but not falling apart - 5-10 min depending on size 4) drain then put back in pot - let them dry out a few minutes and then shake them around in the pot - you don’t want them wet for the next step 5) put potatoes on a sheet pan and coat very well with avocado or grapeseed oil and kosher salt - don’t skimp on either! 6) roast for 10 min then flip potatoes around so crispy bottoms are on top  7) roast till desired amount of golden crispiness - Usually another 10 minutes  8) serve, splashed with a bit of sea salt and pepper, and amaze your friends and family! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mandy, Kathryn, and Gideon are off this week, but they didn’t want to leave you without something special in your feed. So we’re sharing another Lemonada show that we think you’re really going to love. Happier with Gretchen Rubin is hosted by the #1 bestselling author of The Happiness Project and Better Than Before, and it gets personal in the best way. Gretchen shares practical, totally manageable advice about building better habits and creating more happiness in your everyday life. It’s thoughtful, smart, and actually doable. In the episode you’re about to hear, Gretchen talks about why it can be powerful to “go for the no” instead of avoiding rejection and failure. She also shares a few great same-day book recommendations and a simple hack to make your email way more efficient. If you like what you hear, you can find more episodes of Happier with Gretchen Rubin at https://lemonada.lnk.to/happierfd See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
How do you set boundaries with difficult parents? A question about letting go of what you didn’t get in childhood reveals something sweet about Mandy and Gideon’s own relationship. Plus: Mandy and Kathryn share their immigration stories, Mandy gets a trainer, and Gideon upsells a very questionable new hobby. Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.  Head to MarleySpoon.com/offer/DONTLISTEN for up to 25 FREE meals! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This episode is for the theatre nerds. We see you! It’s also for anyone who has ever wondered how to navigate bodily functions in a new relationship. So, everyone. Plus, a moving segment on being your own cheerleader. Oh, and Kathryn brings back the word respair. Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.  Head to MarleySpoon.com/offer/DONTLISTEN for 45% off your first order and free delivery. Go to quince.com/dontlisten for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Does a good relationship require more than just love? Can you be happy without romantic love? And if Gideon loved a robot, would Kathryn mind? Some Valentine’s Day questions about eros (and philia, and pragma, and philautia…).  Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.  Head to MarleySpoon.com/offer/DONTLISTEN for 45% off your first order and free delivery.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
We’re joined by a special guest - comedian, director, dad W. Kamau Bell! We talk about parenting during this difficult time and all things Chicago (including a potential long lost cousin). Oh, and Gideon attempts to pry an old family secret from Kathryn. Can he do it? Please note - We often record these episodes in advance so we don’t always get to respond in real time to what’s going on in our country. Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.  Head to MarleySpoon.com/offer/DONTLISTEN for 45% off your first order and free delivery.  Check out Little Saints and discover your Magic Hour. Visit littlesaints.com and use code DONTLISTEN to get 15% Off Your First Order.    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Newly announced No Kings III is on track to become the largest protest in American history! Ezra and Leah welcome to the conversation famed expert in social movements Erica Chenoweth to discuss the strategic logic of nonviolent protest and noncooperation, organizing against ICE, and how we can convince an opposition party to fight back. As always, we take top questions voted live! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
When do you actually owe your family an apology? Also, Kathryn’s advice to her younger self and why Mandy doesn’t own a tie.  Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.  Head to MarleySpoon.com/DONTLISTEN for up to 25 FREE meals! Visit littlesaints.com to explore the cocktails and use code DONTLISTEN to get 15% Off Your First Order.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Why are people so rude – or are they? A theatre legend calls in to explain why choosing a life in the arts isn’t crazy. Also: pet peeves (celery) and Mandy’s anxiety about working with Elmo. Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. Head to MarleySpoon.com/DONTLISTEN for up to 25 FREE meals! Visit littlesaints.com to explore the cocktails and use code DONTLISTEN to get 15% Off Your First Order.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
New year, same pressure to reinvent yourself. Are resolutions too much? Why Mandy thinks forgiveness isn’t needed. Kathryn disagrees. A listener’s note on bears and bad advice gets the broadway treatment. Oh, and Mandy and Kathryn get tested on Gen Z slang. Who slays?  Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
As we take a deep breath over the holidays, we wanted to share a wonderful conversation from Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus and the incomparable Glenn Close. In this episode, Glenn reflects on growing up in the Moral Re-Armament cult, her iconic work in Fatal Attraction and the new Knives Out, and the tenacity, talent, and forgiveness that have shaped her life. She talks about the women who raised her, what becoming a grandmother has meant, and even shares an incredible story from the set of The Natural.  If you want to hear more of Wiser Than Me, follow wherever you get your podcasts or head to: https://lemonada.lnk.to/wiserthanmefd See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
We’re taking a little holiday break this week so we’re sharing this wonderful, heartfelt, slightly chaotic conversation we had with our friends over on We Can Do Hard Things. We talk about how to make a marriage last without losing your mind, the holy importance of quiet, and how we can hold tight to our humanity while insisting on a more humane world. If you want to hear more of We Can Do Hard Things, follow it wherever you get your podcasts or on Instagram (@wecandohardthings) and TikTok (@wecandohardthingshow). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
What to hang on your walls as a new homeowner. How to deal with failure. A story that embarrasses Kathryn. And, a listener’s powerful life advice we all need to hear. Oh, and someone tastes Becky’s treats! Guess who?  Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.  👉 Subscribe so you don’t miss a new episode every week! 🎧 Listen to the podcast on all platforms: https://lemonada.lnk.to/DontListenToUsYT  📱Follow us: @mandypatinkin @lemonadamedia  #MandyPatinkin #KathrynGrody #Podcast #DontListenToUs To give the gift of Ridwell, just head to ridwell.com/DONTLISTENGIFT See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Does anyone ever actually feel grown-up? Mandy and Kathryn sure don’t. Also: changing up holiday traditions, and the man who mistook an umbrella for a bear (the man is Gideon).  To give the gift of Ridwell, just head to ridwell.com/dontlistengift. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Why Kathryn wants you to say “pussy up.” Is time apart healthy in a relationship? A woman in a male dominated field asks about being herself. How long would you wait for someone? Oh, and “shake the mustard before you squeeze” and other parental sayings - including Mandy’s! It involves a body part.  Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. Go to ridwell.com/dontlisten to get $10 off your first pickup or mail-in kit. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Navigating political differences at the holiday table, actors and plastic surgery, and how Kathryn fell in love with her white hair. Also: Mandy is grateful for liver. Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Should you tell a friend you think their job is unethical? Mandy and Kathryn disagree. A listener asks about using AI as a creative. Mandy and Kathryn play the role of their lives - AI bots. Find out what prompts they used. Oh, and Gene Kelly’s wife calls to chat about the famous dancer and actor’s final years and his advice to Mandy years ago. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Who brought the whoopee cushion? A 4-year-old has a question about being bad and DLTU welcomes our first live guest: astrologer extraordinaire Isabel Wilder! Also: the time Mandy and Christopher Walken fled an audition. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Kathryn gets teary about the lost art of daydreaming, Mandy struggles with friendship, and caller Emonnie brings the calm. Also: Becky the dog’s origin story. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Boo! Happy Halloween. Or, not. Advice to a new grandparent - duct tape helps. Kathryn and Mandy speak to whales. A listener question about death that moves us every time we hear it! Oh, and we play a rapid fire game we call Scary, Not scary. Spiders? Skydiving? Orgies? Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. Visit childrenincorporated.org and choose a child to sponsor today. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
How to feel young when the body gets old, why joy is resistance, and a call from Brit about blowing up her professional life. Also, Gideon shocks Mandy and Kathryn with a family secret.  Have a question, story, or weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.  Look for the blue box at retailers everywhere or shop jlab.com and use code DONTLISTEN for 15% off your order today. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
How to deal with a know-it-all, the truth about American toileting, and a call from Lori about unlocking her heart (ice cream helps). Plus, Mandy gets emotional sharing a breakthrough with son Gideon. Look for the blue box at retailers everywhere or shop jlab.com and use code DONTLISTEN for 15% off your order today. Ready to feel your best and write your second act script? Visit JoinMidi.com today to book your personalized, insurance-covered virtual visit. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/dontlisten.  Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Kathryn defends white lies, Mandy and Kathryn play the Dating Game (Mandy shares his ideal date night), and an inspiring call with Melissa about rebooting a long-lost career dream. Is it ever too late?  Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.  Look for the blue box at retailers everywhere or shop jlab.com and use code DONTLISTEN for 15% off your order today. Ready to feel your best and write your second act script? Visit JoinMidi.com today to book your personalized, insurance-covered virtual visit. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/dontlisten. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Welcome to Don’t Listen to Us! A brand new take-it-or-leave-it advice show hosted by Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody, with their son, Gideon. Each week, Mandy and Kathryn mine their triumphs and disasters as artists, parents, lovers, and humans, to give their unique take on your dilemmas. Gideon referees. Becky the dog barks. And you’ll laugh until you cry, or cry until you laugh. Drop by for some comfort in this fakakta world. Coming October 15.Send your questions and quandaries to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.   Watch the podcast on Youtube at https://youtu.be/Pmw8qbGCxWs. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.