Is the Black Church the Problem?
Podcast: The Esau McCaulley PodcastPublished On: Thu Oct 16 2025
Description: Critics have recently accused the Black Church of promoting "ethnic idolatry," but is that fair, or even historically accurate? Esau McCaulley is joined by Kaitlyn Schiess and producer Mike to unpack where the Black Church came from, why it exists, and what these critiques reveal about American Christianity. Then, is it ok to have joy in the midst of so much suffering and why did we talk about the Taylor Swift album when it is full of explicit material? Also, we break down the latest culture-war controversy over the Super Bowl halftime show. 0:00 - Theme Song 3:45 - Contract Demands for Holy Post 6:54 - Why is there a Black Church? 11:43 - Virality vs Conversation 16:25 - Kaitlyn Left Out of the Taylor Swift Episode? 20:30 - Is it Wrong to Be Happy? 28:16 - Talking About Secular Art 35:00 - Bad Bunny's American Half-Time 44:25 - End Credits
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