The Spirit of the Matter: Spirit vs. Matter
The Spirit of the Matter: Spirit vs. Matter  
Podcast: The Jesse Jackson Jr. Show
Published On: Tue Nov 04 2025
Description: A double dose of time to harness the spirit of empire and the spirit of the individuals who abide. In a heavily loaded dialogue, Jesse Jr takes time with Gina A. Towns, and Bishop Joseph Tolton to walk down a “what we say” and “what we do” and to “who” conversation, full of historical, spiritual and political perspective - feeding the hungry, thirsty, and those looking for peace - definitely fat meat, definitely reflective from folklore, to books to our bathroom mirror.