136. The Doug WIlson to Andrew Tate Pipeline
136. The Doug WIlson to Andrew Tate Pipeline  
Podcast: The Tim & April Show
Published On: Thu Aug 13 2026
Description: In today's special Episode, guest hosts Tamice Spencer-Helms (⁠Black Modern Mystic⁠), ⁠Ciarra Jones⁠, and ⁠Brian Recker⁠ take over the Tim and April Show to dig into Christian nationalism and masculinity — starting with Doug Wilson's case for repealing women's suffrage and "household voting," then tracing how a hyper-masculinized, muscle-bound Jesus shows up from Mark Driscoll's early-2000s "UFC prize fighter Jesus" through pastor Martin Iscara's viral "Jesus had a six-pack" clip, and landing on Pete Hegseth's Pentagon testosterone-testing policy. Chapters: 01:20 Weekend catch-up, Andrew Tate's arrest, and the capri-pants discourse 06:18 Setting up the topic: Pete Hegseth as the face of Christian-nationalist masculinity 10:58 Doug Wilson clip: repealing the 19th Amendment and "household voting" 12:56 Reaction: complementarianism, "equal in value, different in roles," and who actually holds the power 20:07 Natural law theology, white supremacy needing a "pole," and who's on the underside of the theology 34:15 Mark Driscoll's "UFC prize fighter Jesus" and the Book of Revelation sword imagery 39:49 Hegseth's testosterone-testing policy and the Jesse Watters reaction clip 47:37 Closing: what queerness has taught the hosts about healthy masculinity ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices