NASA Chief: "We Just Built Antigravity Propulsion!”
NASA Chief: "We Just Built Antigravity Propulsion!”  
Podcast: American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
Published On: Mon Mar 30 2026
Description: Our American Alchemist this week is Charles Buhler. Dr. Charles Buhler has run 2,000 vacuum chamber experiments showing a propellantless thrust force that persists after the power is switched off, and cannot be explained by ion wind, magnetic effects, or classical energy conservation. The input is pure electricity and the output is millinewtons of thrust counteracting gravity. He believes his work vindicates the legacy of midcentury antigravity pioneer Thomas Townsend Brown and will lead to the future of propellantless deep space travel. Sign Up With Our Sponsors Below For Exclusive Alchemy Deals! KetoneIQ: Visit https://ketone.com/ALCHEMY for 30% OFF your subscription order PLUS receive a free gift with your second shipment—or find Ketone-IQ at Target stores nationwide and get your first shot free! Wild Alaskan Salmon: Get $35 off your first box of wild-caught, sustainable seafood—delivered right to your door. Go to:  https://www.wildalaskan.com/JESSE. -------------------------- Support Our Other Projects Below! Grab Your American Alchemy Merch Here ➤ https://www.americanalchemymerch.com/ Join The American Alchemy Magazine Here ➤ https://americanalchemymagazine.substack.com/ Subscribe To Our Clips Channel (10 Minute Highlights!) ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@UC8ZKTXN9trt5dhixz6b6l6w  -------------------------- JOIN OUR WHOP (Early/Ad Free Episodes) ➤  https://whop.com/jessemichels Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/jessemichelsofficial TikTok ➤ https://www.tiktok.com/@itsjessemichels X ➤ https://twitter.com/AlchemyAmerican Spotify ➤ https://tinyurl.com/jessemichelsspotify Clips Channel ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@JesseMichelsClips Apply For Jobs ➤ apply@jessemichelsmedia.com Sponsor Inquiries ➤ sponsor@jessemichelsmedia.com Media Inquiries ➤ media@jessemichelsmedia.com Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 09:22 Sponsors (KetoneIQ / Wild Alaskan Salmon) 12:40 Meet Dr. Charles Buhler 15:14 What NASA's Electrostatics Lab Actually Does 22:32 Buhler's Path to NASA 26:56 "There Had to Be a Better Way" 31:44 First Time Witnessing the Force 35:19 Meeting Drew & Forming Exodus Propulsion 39:21 Thrust Levels and Space Applications 43:48 Why the Vacuum Chamber Matters 48:37 Ion Wind vs. the Real Force 53:56 Live Experiment Walkthrough 58:42 2,000 Variations 1:03:42 Live Demo at the Electrostatics Conference 1:07:55 Childhood UFO Sighting in Brewster, NY 1:14:52 The Cocoa Beach Incident 1:21:43 Does This Connect to His Propulsion Work? 1:26:47 "It's Really a Force Crisis, Not an Energy Crisis" 1:28:37 Patents and National Security 1:33:33 Why This Must Be a Quantum Effect 1:38:16 Spinning Superconductors 1:41:41 No Physicists on NASA's UAP Team 1:43:53 Gary McKinnon's NASA Hack 1:48:39 Why Hasn't Anyone Done This Before? 1:52:26 David Chester Enters the Conversation 1:53:39 Buhler's QED Theory of the Exodus Force 2:02:26 Momentum Conservation & Virtual Particles 2:21:09 Falcon Space and Further Investigations 2:32:16 Closing Reflections Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices