What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?  
Podcast: Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Published On: Wed May 07 2025
Description: Greg Jackson, CEO of Octopus Energy, joins Azeem to discuss the Iberian blackout and how we can create a more stable, flexible, and resilient energy grid for the future. This conversation digs into grid technology, market structures, and the real opportunities of the clean energy transition. (00:00) Episode trailer (01:38)  What caused the Iberian blackout? (04:55)  Managing load in traditional vs renewable grids (11:57) The role of market incentives (18:13)  Greg's social experiments within the UK grid (23:49)  How the "virtual power plant" is becoming a reality (26:59)  The path to completing the renewable energy transition (33:15)  Are lobbyists slowing down the transition? (36:26)  What does the next 5-10 years look like? (40:42)  Why the name "Octopus?" Greg's links:Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/g__jLinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/gregsjacksonOctopus Energy: https://octopus.energy/Azeem's links:Substack: https://www.exponentialview.co/Website: https://www.azeemazhar.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/azharTwitter/X: https://x.com/azeem Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.