Who Was Liron Shapira BEFORE Doom Debates? — Interview on Theo Jaffee's Podcast from December 2023
Who Was Liron Shapira BEFORE Doom Debates? — Interview on Theo Jaffee's Podcast from December 2023  
Podcast: Doom Debates!
Published On: Thu May 14 2026
Description: In December 2023, I joined the Theo Jaffee Podcast to talk about a wide range of topics including non-AI x-risks, where I disagree with Eliezer Yudkwowsky, cryptocurrency and if P(Doom) is rigorous. This episode was recorded 6 months before I'd started Doom Debates. Let's look back with the power of hindsight and see if my answers still hold up.Links#10: Liron Shapira — AI doom, FOOM, rationalism, and crypto (YouTube) — https://youtu.be/YfEcAtHExFMWatch Theo Jafee now on MTS — https://www.mts.now/MTS Live — https://x.com/MTSliveTimestamps00:00:00 — Theo's Introduction00:01:03 — Is Liron Worried About Non-AI Existential Risks00:03:36 — Suffering Risks00:05:22 — Is P(Doom) rigorous?00:09:42 — Is Eliezer Overestimating P(Doom)?00:12:18 — Where Does Liron Disagree with Eliezer?00:15:43 — What Would Change Liron's Mind00:17:14 — Elon Musk's AI Timelines00:18:34 — Is xAI Making Things Worse?00:20:24 — The Case for an AI Manhattan Project00:22:32 — Are Superforecasters Wrong About AI Risk?00:26:02 — The Race Against Time for Alignment00:28:01 — Headroom Above Human Intelligence00:33:31 — Vitalik's d/acc Framework00:35:23 — Edging Toward Superintelligence00:38:21 — From Chatbot to World-Ender00:41:55 — GPT Paradigm vs. AlphaZero00:43:18 — Critiquing AI Optimism00:48:29 — Deceptive Alignment and Gradient Descent00:53:31 — Does Nice Training Data Make Nice AI?00:57:57 — How Do You Live with 50% P(Doom)?01:00:08 — Why Have Kids If the World Might End?01:02:16 — Israel vs Hamas01:06:15 — How LessWrong Changed Liron's Life01:08:42 — Rationalism and Effective Altruism01:14:49 — Why Blockchain Has No Use Case Beyond Cryptocurrency01:22:13 — Charlie Munger and Richard Feynman01:24:38 — ClosingDoom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate.Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at DoomDebates.com and to youtube.com/@DoomDebates, or to really take things to the next level: Donate 🙏 Get full access to Doom Debates at lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe