Ben Goertzel Wants to Build AGI Even FASTER — AI Doom Debate
Ben Goertzel Wants to Build AGI Even FASTER — AI Doom Debate  
Podcast: Doom Debates!
Published On: Tue May 19 2026
Description: Dr. Ben Goertzel is a pioneering AI researcher, entrepreneur, and author who has helped organize AGI as a research field since the 2000s through books, workshops, and conferences.We talk about the early days of AGI research with Yudkowsky, get Ben’s timeline to the singularity, and I try to understand what makes him so optimistic that superintelligence will be beneficial for humanity.Timestamps00:00:00 — Cold Open00:00:59 — Introducing Dr. Ben Goertzel00:04:11 — How Did Ben Get Interested in AGI?00:08:26 — Early AGI Enthusiast Community: Extropians & SL400:15:15 — Is There Headroom Above Human Intelligence?00:19:53 — Can Superintelligent AI Kill Everyone?00:28:25 — Ben’s AGI Timeline: 202900:36:00 — What Modern AI Is Missing00:42:01 — AGI to Superintelligence — FOOM in a Matter of Months00:46:34 — What’s Your P(Doom)?™00:53:37 — Ben’s Case for AI Acceleration01:03:50 — The Orthogonality Thesis Is “Dishonest”01:13:43 — Liron: Moore’s Law for Goal Achievement01:23:50 — Ben: Alignment Is Just Good Parenting01:27:36 — Alignment in Practice: OmegaCLAW01:35:47 — Creating Stable Goals Under Self-Modification01:45:22 — SingularityNET, OpenBGI, and the ASI Alliance01:57:31 — The $ASI Token Economy02:01:15 — ClosingLinksBen Goertzel on X — https://x.com/bengoertzelSingularityNET — https://singularitynet.io/OpenBGI — https://openbgi.com/Hyperon AGI Framework — https://hyperon.dev/OmegaCLAW on GitHub — https://github.com/asi-alliance/OmegaClaw-CoreASI Alliance — https://superintelligence.io/The Consciousness Explosion (book) — https://theconsciousnessexplosion.ai/“The Singularity Institute’s Scary Idea (and Why I Don’t Buy It)” (2010) — http://multiverseaccordingtoben.blogspot.com/2010/10/singularity-institutes-scary-idea-and.htmlKen Stanley Debate — https://lironshapira.substack.com/p/debate-with-a-former-openai-researchDoom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate.Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at DoomDebates.com and to youtube.com/@DoomDebates, or to really take things to the next level: Donate 🙏 Get full access to Doom Debates at lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe