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Content warning: murder. The cold-blooded murder of a rising college football star stunned the University ofMiami - and now, nearly 20 years later, a former teammate stands trial for the crime.An investigative series from ESPN’s acclaimed 30 for 30 Podcasts, “Murder at the U”unravels a story of betrayal, brotherhood, and the long road to justice in one of themost gripping sports crime stories in recent memory. With in-depth reporting andjaw-dropping twists, this true crime series explores the shocking death of Bryan Pataas it finally heads to the courtroom.For the complete story, head over to ESPN's 30 for 30 Podcasts.30 for 30 Podcasts website:https://30for30podcasts.com/ESPN's 30 for 30 Podcasts on Apple:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/30-for-30-podcasts/id124478461130 for 30 Podcasts: MURDER AT THE U Trailerhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/introducing-murder-at-the-u/id1244784611?i=1000746832310

Content Warning: grooming, domestic violence, physical violence, sexual violence, sexual abuse, childhood sexual abuse, and sex trafficking.In these two episodes we feature Marina Lacerda, a survivor and mother from Brazil. In her youth, she immigrated to New York with her mother in hopes of forging a new life. Almost immediately, Marina would begin to face sexual and physical violence that normalized a long cycle of abuse. By the time she was 14, Marina would be introduced to Jeffrey Epstein, a man that seemed to symbolize success and wealth, but only added to her trauma. Eventually, Marina would play a part in both of the FBI’s attempts at justice in 2008 and 2019, when during the latter, she would be dubbed, “Minor Victim 1.” Marina’s journey is a testament to the impact of the cycle of abuse, but it also is a testament to her personal resilience and strength. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly honored she was willing to share her story with our audience, and continues to be transparent about her healing journey in the name of advocacy.Marina's Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/marinalacerdaforsurvivors/Sources:Chappell, Bill. “Jeffrey Epstein Files: Tracing the Legal Cases That Led to Sex-Trafficking Charges.” NPR, NPR, 25 July 2025, www.npr.org/2025/07/25/nx-s1-5478620/jeffrey-epstein-crimes-timeline-legal-caseDiaz, Jaclyn. “Jeffrey Epstein’s Former Prosecutors Used ‘poor Judgment’ in Deal, Doj Says.” NPR, NPR, 12 Nov. 2020, www.npr.org/2020/11/12/934265386/jeffrey-epsteins-former-prosecutors-used-poor-judgment-in-deal-doj-saysSardarizadeh, Shayan. “Details of Jeffrey Epstein Post-Mortem Released in Latest Files.” BBC News, BBC, 4 Feb. 2026, www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2y33q8l1qoSisak, Michael R., and David B. Caruso. “At Least 16 Files Disappear from DOJ Site for Epstein Documents, Including Trump Photo.” PBS, Public Broadcasting Service, 20 Dec. 2025, www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/at-least-16-files-disappear-from-doj-site-for-epstein-documents-including-trump-photoFor a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: grooming, domestic violence, physical violence, sexual violence, sexual abuse, childhood sexual abuse, and sex trafficking.Marina Lacerda is a survivor and mother from Brazil. In her youth, she immigrated to New York with her mother in hopes of forging a new life. Almost immediately, Marina would begin to face sexual and physical violence that normalized a long cycle of abuse. By the time she was 14, Marina would be introduced to Jeffrey Epstein, a man that seemed to symbolize success and wealth, but only added to her trauma. Eventually, Marina would play a part in both of the FBI’s attempts at justice in 2008 and 2019, when during the latter, she would be dubbed, “Minor Victim 1.” Marina’s journey is a testament to the impact of the cycle of abuse, but it also is a testament to her personal resilience and strength. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly honored she was willing to share her story with our audience, and continues to be transparent about her healing journey in the name of advocacy.Marina's Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/marinalacerdaforsurvivors/For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Mint Mobile for sponsoring this episode. Ready to stop paying more than you have to? New customers can make the switch today and for a limited time, get unlimited premium wireless for just $15 per month. Switch now at MintMobile.com/WCN.

Content Warning: child abuse, domestic violence, physical, emotional, and sexual abuse, sexual assault, image-based sexual abuse, cyberstalking, and rape.Mae Scott is a multi-crime survivor, mother, and author. Her story of survivorship began at the age of 14, when she met the man she would eventually marry. And although their relationship would end violently and her ex-husband would face a potential life sentence for the harm he forced upon Mae, her legal battle did not end there. After navigating the criminal justice processes, as well as a treacherous family and divorce court journey, Mae now uses her experiences to bring awareness to others. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Mae’s time, advocacy, and incredibly powerful perspectives.Mae's Website:http://www.maescottofficial.com/Mae's Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/maescottofficial/An Embarrassment of Pandas by Mae Scott:https://amzn.to/4k4xuuFIf you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, please visit thehotline.org for a list of resources. For additional resources and a list of non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Lola Blankets for sponsoring this episode. For a limited time, our listeners can get 40% OFF select Lola Blankets products with code [WCN] at checkout. After you purchase, they’ll ask where you heard about them — PLEASE support our show and let them know we sent you. Wrap yourself in luxury with Lola Blankets.

Content Warning: child abuse, domestic violence, physical, emotional, and sexual abuse, sexual assault, image-based sexual abuse, cyberstalking, and rape.Mae Scott is a multi-crime survivor, mother, and author. Her story of survivorship began at the age of 14, when she met the man she would eventually marry. And although their relationship would end violently and her ex-husband would face a potential life sentence for the harm he forced upon Mae, her legal battle did not end there. After navigating the criminal justice processes, as well as a treacherous family and divorce court journey, Mae now uses her experiences to bring awareness to others. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Mae’s time, advocacy, and incredibly powerful perspectives.Mae's Website:http://www.maescottofficial.com/Mae's Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/maescottofficial/An Embarrassment of Pandas by Mae Scott:https://amzn.to/4k4xuuFIf you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, please visit thehotline.org for a list of resources. For additional resources and a list of non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Quince for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to refresh your wardrobe with Quince. Go to quince.com/wcn for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns.

Content Warning: domestic violence, physical, emotional, and sexual abuse, sexual assault, image-based sexual abuse, cyberstalking, and rape.Mae Scott is a multi-crime survivor, mother, and author. Her story of survivorship began at the age of 14, when she met the man she would eventually marry. And although their relationship would end violently and her ex-husband would face a potential life sentence for the harm he forced upon Mae, her legal battle did not end there. After navigating the criminal justice processes, as well as a treacherous family and divorce court journey, Mae now uses her experiences to bring awareness to others. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Mae’s time, advocacy, and incredibly powerful perspectives. Mae's Website: http://www.maescottofficial.com/Mae's Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/maescottofficial/An Embarrassment of Pandas by Mae Scott:https://amzn.to/4k4xuuFIf you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, please visit thehotline.org for a list of resources. For additional resources and a list of non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Cash App for sponsoring this episode. Download Cash App Today: [https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/394eb6t5] #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Cash App Green, overdraft coverage, borrow, cash back offers and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.

Content Warning: domestic violence, physical, emotional, spiritual, and professional abuse, stalking, child abuse, childhood sexual abuse, and rape.Nicole Meyer is a mother, educator, and victim-survivor of several types of abuse from Melbourne, Australia. Her journey towards justice and healing was a long, arduous one that spanned 15 years and two countries. Amidst it, Nicole was eventually joined by her sisters, who she would find out were victims of her alleged abuser. The highly publicized nature of their legal battle inspired them to participate in the documentary, Surviving Malka Leifer, and has propelled Nicole to continue to speak out in Parliament and worldwide. Her mission is to unite and empower survivors, as well as to spread awareness as a means for prevention. The Broken Cycle Media team is so very appreciative of Nicole’s time, advocacy, and powerful perspective in these episodes.Nicole's Social Media Links: Nicole's Instagram:http://www.instagram.com/breakingthesilencenowNicole's TikTok:http://www.tiktok.com/@nicoleymeyerNicole's Victim Impact Statement on TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZThA583hG/Revealed: Surviving Malka Leifer by Stan.https://www.stan.com.au/watch/revealed-surviving-malka-leifer-2025“Nicole Meyer - Ambassador.” National Survivors’ Day, www.nationalsurvivorsday.org.au/nicole.Sources & Resources:National Survivors Foundation:https://igff.org.au/LOUDFence:https://loudfence.com/Erlich, Dassi. “In Bad Faith by Dassi Erlich.” National Survivors Foundation, Hachette Australia, 15 May 2024, igff.org.au/in-bad-faith-by-dassi-erlich-a-true-story/.For additional resources and a list of non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Mint Mobile for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget that this January, you can quit overspending on wireless with 50% off Unlimited premium wireless. Plans start at $15/month at MintMobile.com/wcn. Limited time offer. Upfront payment of: $45 for 3-mo., $90 for 6-mo., or $180 for 12-mo. plan req’d ($15/mo. equiv.). Taxes & fees extra. Initial plan term only. >50GB may slow when network is busy. Capable device req'd. Availability, speed, & coverage varies. See mintmobile.com.

Hi friends, We wanted to take a moment to wish our audience the healthiest, happiest new year possible. We are endlessly grateful for each of you who listens, shares, and shows up with curiosity and care. We don’t take your listening lightly. Thank you for choosing to spend your time with us, for leaving your hearts open to our guests’ perspectives, and for supporting What Came Next in ways both big and small. This podcast exists because of your time, your trust, and your willingness to engage in these conversations. This week, we encourage you to go back and re-listen to any episodes that deeply impacted you, share them with your loved ones, or leave a positive review on your preferred podcasting platform. And don’t forget to follow What Came Next on Instagram. Every action of support helps us continue to make this show and is deeply appreciated. Thank you again! What Came Next on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/whatcamenext_podcast

Content Warning: domestic violence, murder, and missing persons. Dr. Kelli Boling and Dr. Danielle Slakoff join us today to discuss their impactful research about the creation and consumption of true crime media. They both bring years of experience and expertise to their work in hopes of inspiring true crime to be a more equitable healing space for victims and co-victims. The Broken Cycle Media team has long admired their work and is honored they would join us to talk about their research discoveries and how we can all work to improve the genre for those at the center of crime.Dr. Kelli Boling: https://kelliboling.com/Dr. Danielle Slakoff: https://daniellecslakoff.weebly.com/Sources: Boling, Kelli S.. ““It’s that ‘There but for the Grace of God Go I’ Piece of It”: Domestic Violence Survivors in True Crime Podcast Audiences.” Mass Communication and Society 26 (2022): 991 - 1013. https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/%E2%80%9CIt%E2%80%99s-that-%E2%80%98There-but-for-the-Grace-of-God-Go-I%E2%80%99-of-Boling/f938790522bc62fa985351bc951e3ce0e3ded9acBoling, Kelli S. “True Crime Podcasting: Journalism, Justice or Entertainment?” Radio Journal:International Studies in Broadcast & Audio Media, Intellect, 1 Oct. 2019, intellectdiscover.com/content/journals/10.1386/rjao_00003_1#citedBoling, K. S., & Hull, K. (2018). Undisclosed Information—Serial Is My Favorite Murder: Examining Motivations in the True Crime Podcast Audience. Journal of Radio & Audio Media, 25(1), 92–108. https://doi.org/10.1080/19376529.2017.1370714Boling, K. S., & Slakoff, D. C. (2025). “What an invasion, an immense invasion”: Examining the adverse effects of true crime media on co-victims. Crime, Media, Culture: An International Journal, 0(0). https://doi.org/10.1177/17416590251371618Slakoff, Danielle C., and Kelli S. Boling. 2025. “‘Media Pressure Is What Makes Law Enforcement Move’: Insights from Co-Victims About the Positive Impacts of True Crime Media Attention.” Mass Communication and Society, August, 1–17. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15205436.2025.2549719Slakoff, D.C., Boling, K.S. & Tadros, E. “I just couldn’t cope with it, you know? I just couldn’t believe that she was gone”: The Portrayal of Co-victims’ Grief in True Crime Podcasts about Missing (but Presumed Killed) Women. J Fam Viol 39, 303–313 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1007/s10896-022-00471-wSlakoff, D. C., & Brennan, P. K. (2017). The Differential Representation of Latina and Black Female Victims in Front-Page News Stories: A Qualitative Document Analysis. Feminist Criminology, 14(4), 488-516. https://doi.org/10.1177/1557085117747031 (Original work published 2019)“True Crime Obsession: Sleuths, Streamers, and Serial Killers.” YouTube, Vice News, www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsO_iynpH1EFor a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: sexual assault, rape, image-based sexual abuse, strangulation, domestic violence, and attempted murder.As shared in part one of her story, Kelly Sutliff is a survivor, founder of the nonprofit Kelly’s K-9’s: Tails of Courage, and a licensed professional counselor from New Jersey. In 2018, after a devastating grief journey, Kelly decided to return to her search for a life partner. It wouldn’t be long before she met a government contractor promising her the future she desired. However, her entire life changed on December 16th, 2019, when the loving relationship she had been cultivating with her new husband ended violently. After surviving an alleged attempted murder, Kelly has made it her mission to bring awareness and advocacy through her non-profit and sharing her story in the media. The Broken Cycle Media team is so very grateful for Kelly’s transparency, expertise, warmth, and listenership and support throughout the years.Kelly's K-9's: Tails of Couragehttps://www.kellysk9s.org/Kelly's K-9's on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/kellys_k9s_tailsofcourage/Kelly on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/real_talk_with_kelly/IDtv's 'Toxic':https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/show/toxic-investigation-discovery-atve-usFor a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: sexual assault, rape, image-based sexual abuse, strangulation, domestic violence, and attempted murder. Kelly Sutliff is a survivor, founder of the nonprofit Kelly’s K-9’s: Tails of Courage, and a licensed professional counselor from New Jersey. In 2018, after a devastating grief journey, Kelly decided to return to her search for a life partner. It wouldn’t be long before she met a government contractor promising her the future she desired. However, her entire life changed on December 16th, 2019, when the loving relationship she had been cultivating with her new husband ended violently. After surviving an alleged attempted murder, Kelly has made it her mission to bring awareness and advocacy through her non-profit and sharing her story in the media. The Broken Cycle Media team is so very grateful for Kelly’s transparency, expertise, warmth, and listenership and support throughout the years. Kelly's K-9's: Tails of Couragehttps://www.kellysk9s.org/Kelly's K-9's on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/kellys_k9s_tailsofcourage/Kelly on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/real_talk_with_kelly/For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: verbal abuse, physical abuse, child sexual abuse, sexual assault, rape, and suicidal ideation.Janelle Hill is a psychiatric nurse practitioner and survivor from Montana. She and I first had the chance to meet each other at an intimate dinner celebrating the survivor-founded non-profit, The Army of Survivors, and their newest evolution: a full rebranding as The Athlete Survivor's Assist. Janelle currently proudly serves on their advisory board, and shared a bit of her story that evening. I was deeply moved by her strength, expertise, and ability to encapsulate her difficult experiences with grace and relatability. The Broken Cycle Media team is grateful Janelle took the time to share her story of survivorship and about her advocacy work with our audience in the following two episodes.Sources:Janelle Hill. “Reclaiming Boundaries: Breaking The Silence of Sexual Abuse In Sports.” YouTube, TEDxOmaha, www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT2phpQoZVQ. Resources: The Athlete Survivor's Assist:https://theathletesurvivorsassist.org/The Athlete Survivor's Assist on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/theathletesurvivorsassist/For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: verbal abuse, physical abuse, child sexual abuse, sexual assault, rape, and suicidal ideation.Janelle Hill is a psychiatric nurse practitioner and survivor from Montana. She and I first had the chance to meet each other at an intimate dinner celebrating the survivor-founded non-profit, The Army of Survivors, and their newest evolution: a full rebranding as The Athlete Survivor's Assist. Janelle currently proudly serves on their advisory board, and shared a bit of her story that evening. I was deeply moved by her strength, expertise, and ability to encapsulate her difficult experiences with grace and relatability. The Broken Cycle Media team is grateful Janelle took the time to share her story of survivorship and about her advocacy work with our audience in the following two episodes.The Athlete Survivor's Assist:https://theathletesurvivorsassist.org/ The Athlete Survivor's Assist on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/theathletesurvivorsassist/For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: self-harm, child abuse, physical, mental, emotional, and sexual abuse and assault.Dr. Danielle Moore is a doctorate of forensic psychology, victim advocate, and former competitive gymnast. Despite the fact that her tumultuous journey has included extensive abuse and physical and emotional pain, Dr. Dani is a true beacon of hope for survivors. No matter what came next for her, she has managed to channel her energies into advocacy, to make true change in athletic systems all-around.The Athlete Survivors' Assist formerly Army of Survivors:https://theathletesurvivorsassist.org/what-we-do/The Athlete Survivors' Assist formerly Army of Survivors on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/theathletesurvivorsassist/Dr. Danielle Moore on Instagramhttp://www.instagram.com/dr.dani2016End Violence Against Women Internationalhttps://evawintl.org/Sources: “Wheels.” Domestic Abuse Intervention Programs, 24 Apr. 2021, www.theduluthmodel.org/wheels/ Tim Evans, Mark Alesia. “Former USA Gymnastics Doctor Accused of Abuse.” The Indianapolis Star, IndyStar, 24 Jan. 2018, www.indystar.com/story/news/2016/09/12/former-usa-gymnastics-doctor-accused-abuse/89995734/ Yancey-Bragg, N’dea. “1 in 4 College Athletes Say They Experienced Sexual Abuse from an Authority Figure, Survey Finds.” USA Today, Gannett Satellite Information Network, 26 Aug. 2021, www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/08/26/college-athlete-report-sexual-assault-common-survey/8253766002/ Free + Confidential resources: somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Lola Blankets and Quince for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget, to experience the world’s #1 blanket & get 40% off your entire order go to Lolablankets.com and use code [WCN] at checkout. And step into the holiday season with layers made to feel good, look polished, and last— from Quince. Go to Quince.com/WCN for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.

Content warning: wrongful conviction, domestic violence, childhood abuse, robbery, death, and murder. Maggie Freleng is an advocate, award-winning journalist, and producer reporting on wrongful convictions, the criminal legal system, and social issues. She's the host and producer of the Pulitzer Prize-winning podcast Suave on PRX, as well as the host and producer of the Signal and Anthem award-winning podcast, Wrongful Conviction with Maggie Freleng. She also hosts Up and Vanished Weekly podcast, and is here to share about her newest release, Bone Valley Season three entitled Graves County, as well as about her work across all genres of storytelling. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for this illuminating conversation and for Maggie's expertise and advocacy.Bone Valley, S3: Graves Countyhttps://lavaforgood.com/graves-countySuave on PRX:https://play.prx.org/listen?uf=https%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.feedburner.com%2FsuavepodcastWrongful Conviction with Maggie Freleng:https://lavaforgood.com/with-maggie-frelengUp and Vanished Weekly: https://upandvanished.com/up-and-vanished-weekly/Maggie on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/maggiefreleng/For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesSources: Carson, E. Ann. “Prisons Report Series: Preliminary Data Release.” Bureau of Justice Statistics, bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/prisons-report-series-preliminary-data-release “National Registry of Exonerations’ Annual Report Finds Majority of Exonerees Are People of Color and Official Misconduct Is the Main Cause of Wrongful Convictions.” Death Penalty Information Center, deathpenaltyinfo.org/national-registry-of-exonerations-annual-report-finds-majority-of-exonerees-are-people-of-color-and-official-misconduct-is-the-main-cause-of-wrongful-convictionsOstoyich, Halle. WV Innocence Project | West Virginia University, 2 Oct. 2020, wvinnocenceproject.law.wvu.edu/innocence-project-blog/our-voices/2020/10/02/wrongful-convictions-the-facts

Content Warning: rape, self-harm, and suicidal ideation.Marlee Liss is a survivor,award-winning speaker, victim advocate, somatic educator, and author from Toronto, Canada. She grew up in the arts, but pivoted to social work when she began her college career. It was in Marlee’s junior year when her life changed forever; she became the victim of a sexual assault and entered an arduous journey in the criminal justice system as a result. However, three years into that battle for justice, Marlee found an additional path: restorative justice. According to Walden University, quote “Punitive justice is the idea of punishing criminals for their crimes against society or the legal system itself, and is the traditional method of handling crime in the United States. Restorative justice seeks to bring victims of crimes into the justice process. Criminals are asked to take accountability for their wrongdoing by facing those they have wronged... The theory is that criminals owe more than a debt to society—they owe a debt to specific people,” end quote. The two processes are not always mutually exclusive. It’s important to note that criminal justice can occur tandemly with restorative justice practices. The Broken Cycle Media team is so very grateful for Marlee's powerful perspective advocacy and time and energy in sharing in this episode.Resources:Survivors for Justice Reform:https://www.survivors4justicereform.com/Dr. Alissa Ackerman:https://www.alissaackerman.com/Marlee's Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/marleeliss/Marlee's TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@marleelissSurvivors for Justice Reform on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/survivors4justicereform/National Association of Community and Restorative Justice:https://www.nacrj.org/NACRJ Restorative Justice Map:https://members.nacrj.org/rj-map/FindStartsWith?term=%23%21Sources:Statistics: The Criminal Justice System - Rainn, rainn.org/facts-statistics-the-scope-of-the-problem/statistics-the-criminal-justice-system/“What Is Restorative Justice?” Walden University, www.waldenu.edu/programs/criminal-justice/resource/what-Is-restorative-justice.

Content Warning: self-harm, suicidal ideation, sexual assault, multiple perpetrator sexual assault, rape, gang violence, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, physical abuse, mental abuse, abduction, murder. Bevin Llanes is a mother, survivor, and victim advocate from New York. Bevin joins us today to share about her daughter Meghan’s journey, as well as to bring awareness to domestic violence. In these two episodes, Bevin candidly shares about the immense trauma Meghan was forced to face in her youth, and the harmful path she was launched down as a result. Devastatingly, Meghan’s young life was stolen on October 23rd, 2021, after experiencing years of violence. In the wake of her loss, Bevin has made it her mission to advocate for victims of intimate partner violence, by amplifying what she calls, “Meggie’s Voice.” The Broken Cycle Media team is eternally appreciative of Bevin’s honesty, advocacy, and desire to change the future for those who experience violence at the hands of a loved one. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Meghan Kiefer. Meggie's Voice - In Memory of Meghan - on Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/p/Meggies-Voice-In-Memory-of-Meghan-a-victim-of-domestic-violence-100082584594717/Meggie's Voice on TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@meggiesvoiceThe Petito Foundation:https://gabbypetitofoundation.org/Conference on Crimes Against Women:https://conferencecaw.org/Long Island Against Domestic Violence: https://www.lawhelpny.org/organization/li-against-domestic-violenceECLI-Vibes:https://eclivibes.org/The Retreat: https://allagainstabuse.org/For domestic violence resources, please visit https://www.thehotline.org/For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: self-harm, suicidal ideation, sexual assault, multiple perpetrator sexual assault, rape, gang violence, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, physical abuse, mental abuse, abduction, murder. Bevin Llanes is a mother, survivor, and victim advocate from New York. Bevin joins us today to share about her daughter Meghan’s journey, as well as to bring awareness to domestic violence. In these two episodes, Bevin candidly shares about the immense trauma Meghan was forced to face in her youth, and the harmful path she was launched down as a result. Devastatingly, Meghan’s young life was stolen on October 23rd, 2021, after experiencing years of violence. In the wake of her loss, Bevin has made it her mission to advocate for victims of intimate partner violence, by amplifying what she calls, “Meggie’s Voice.” The Broken Cycle Media team is eternally appreciative of Bevin’s honesty, advocacy, and desire to change the future for those who experience violence at the hands of a loved one. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Meghan Kiefer. Meggie's Voice - In Memory of Meghan - on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Meggies-Voice-In-Memory-of-Meghan-a-victim-of-domestic-violence-100082584594717/ For domestic violence resources, please visit https://www.thehotline.org/ For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

If you’ve ever thought about writing your story - whether that's for personal catharsis or for connection to your community - today’s episode is for you. Our goal with this episode is to empower survivors! In it we’re sharing some lesser-known literary world tips and tricks that help you organize, plan, write, and even publish your non-fiction works. For example, did you know you don’t even need to write your non-fiction book in order to pitch it to a publisher or an agent? You just have to write a non-fiction manuscript proposal, which is a fabulous tool for writers, whether your goal is to share your story with others or not. If you have a loved one who's interested in penning their personal story, this is the episode for them! Resources: Nonfiction Authors Association Book Proposal Template: https://nonfictionauthorsassociation.com/book-proposal-template-3/ Writing a Non-Fiction Query Letter: https://blog.reedsy.com/non-fiction-query-letter/ Publishers Marketplace: https://www.publishersmarketplace.com/ 445 Agents Seeking Nonfiction Submissions in 2025: https://blog.reedsy.com/literary-agents/nonfiction/ Alpha & Beta Readers: What Are They & Why Bother? https://www.ingramspark.com/blog/alpha-and-beta-readers-what-are-they-and-why-bother JJ Comerford on What Came Next: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-came-next/id1674051643?i=1000728525469 Working for Justice: One Family’s Tale of Murder, Betrayal, and Healing https://amzn.to/4qu4eR4 Amy B. Chesler on Instagram http://www.instagram.com/amybchesler For a list of survivor resources and non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: neglect, miscarriage, gang violence, assault, physical violence, substance use disorder, and suicidal ideation. Cesar Cardona is a survivor, public speaker, and mindfulness educator living in Los Angeles, California. Cesar’s tumultuous youth first set him on a path of self-destruction. But after he faced a brutal, life-altering attack, Cesar found Buddhism and meditation as a means of coping and healing. Now he is on a mission, both within his speaking career and on his podcast “Beauty in the Break,” to bring light and hope to others’ lives. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Cesar’s grace, advocacy, and soulful sentiments within this episode. Cesar’s Website: http://www.cesarcardona.com Cesar on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_cesarcardona Beauty in the Break: https://cesarcardona.com/podcast Beauty in the Break YT: https://www.youtube.com/@BeautyintheBreak Beauty in the Break on IG: https://www.instagram.com/beautyinthebreakpod/ For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: pedophilia, religious abuse, physical abuse, rape, childhood sexual abuse, childhood sexual assault, child abuse, substance use disorder, professional abuse, self-harm, suicidal ideation, and suicide.JJ Comerford is an author, professional, former servicemember, and survivor from Australia. In these two episodes, J.J. rawly shares about the physical and sexual abuse he experienced as a student in the private Catholic school system in the 1970’s. After decades of suffering in silence, J.J. was eventually encouraged to share about his abuse at-large. Since he began his mission of awareness, his media efforts and book have offered much solace to his supporters. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply honored that J.J. was willing to so rawly share his story, strength, and resilience with our audience. Sources: “Abused schoolboy John Comerford took gun to school to kill his rapist teacher.” The Daily Telegraph, 16 July 2017, www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/john-comerford-was-raped-at-11-he-returned-to-the-school-at-18-with-a-loaded-shotgun-to-kill-his-rapist-but-he-was-told-he-was-already-dead/news-story/5d61f68d4bbc7d4c17d25c7d118be1cbResources:Survivors & Mates Support Network: https://www.samsn.org.au/JJ’s Website: https://jjcomerford.com/JJ's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/john.comerford.779/JJ's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_jjcomerford_/JJ's Books: https://jjcomerford.com/booksFor a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: pedophilia, religious abuse, physical abuse, rape, childhood sexual abuse, childhood sexual assault, child abuse, substance use disorder, professional abuse, self-harm, suicidal ideation, and suicide.JJ Comerford is an author, professional, former servicemember, and survivor from Australia. In these two episodes, J.J. rawly shares about the physical and sexual abuse he experienced as a student in the private Catholic school system in the 1970’s. After decades of suffering in silence, J.J. was eventually encouraged to share about his abuse at-large. Since he began his mission of awareness, his media efforts and book have offered much solace to his supporters. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply honored that J.J. was willing to so rawly share his story, strength, and resilience with our audience. Sources: “Abused schoolboy John Comerford took gun to school to kill his rapist teacher.” The Daily Telegraph, 16 July 2017, www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/john-comerford-was-raped-at-11-he-returned-to-the-school-at-18-with-a-loaded-shotgun-to-kill-his-rapist-but-he-was-told-he-was-already-dead/news-story/5d61f68d4bbc7d4c17d25c7d118be1cbResources:JJ’s Website: https://jjcomerford.com/JJ's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_jjcomerford_/JJ's Books: https://jjcomerford.com/booksFor a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesAnd thank you again to Quince for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget that you can keep it classic and cozy this fall with long lasting staples from Quince. Just go to quince.com/wcn for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns!

Content Warning: substance use disorder, suicidal ideation, assault, intimate partner violence, domestic violence, rape, stalking, human trafficking, sex trafficking, gun violence, and murder. Ti is an incredibly resilient multi-crime survivor from Madagascar. She first joined a dating app in her mid-20’s with the hope of finding the love of her life. She wasn’t expecting to be swept off her feet and away to America, but life had other plans for her. However, when she arrived in Michigan by way of Chicago, she was shocked to quickly learn the highly abusive nature of her new husband’s actions. Ti soon found herself escaping a marriage with a man who not only worked to systematically crush her spirit, but also allegedly sex trafficked her. The heartache did not end there though; after freeing herself and fleeing to another state, she watched from afar as her ex-husband’s violence reached an insurmountable point. The Broken Cycle Media team is in deep awe of Ti’s resilience and has immense gratitude for her vulnerability amidst these episodes. National Domestic Violence Hotline: https://www.thehotline.org/ [John-Michael Lander] An Athlete's Silence: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/john-michael-lander-an-athletes-silence/id1674051643?i=1000619765637 For a list of resources and additional non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: substance use disorder, suicidal ideation, suicide attempt, child abuse, chilhood sexual abuse, rape, statutory rape, stalking, human trafficking, sex trafficking, domestic violence, and murder.Ti is an incredibly resilient multi-crime survivor from Madagascar. She first joined a dating app in her mid-20’s with the hope of finding the love of her life. She wasn’t expecting to be swept off her feet and away to America, but life had other plans for her. However, when she arrived in Michigan by way of Chicago, she was shocked to quickly learn the highly abusive nature of her new husband’s actions. Ti soon found herself escaping a marriage with a man who not only emotionally and physically worked to crush her spirit, but also forced her into sex trafficking. The heartache did not end there though; after freeing herself and fleeing to another state, she watched from afar as her ex-husband’s violence reached an insurmountable point. The Broken Cycle Media team is in deep awe of Ti’s resilience and has immense gratitude for her vulnerability amidst these episodes.National Domestic Violence Hotline:https://www.thehotline.org/For a list of resources and additional non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: robbery, rape, domestic violence, domestic abuse, child abuse, missing persons, and suspected murder. Alison Duiker is an educator, author, mother, and survivor from Ohio. Her life was upended days before her fifth birthday when her mom, Lonene, went missing. Over the last forty-four years, Alison has worked diligently to bring awareness to her mother’s cold case, as well as to make change for other families with missing loved ones. The Broken Cycle Media team is honored she was willing to share her and her mother’s journey with us, and we deeply encourage our audience members to help enact Lonnie’s Law by signing Alison’s petition linked in the episode notes. A Daughter's Journey: ...and Story of Resilience: https://www.amazon.com/Daughters-Journey-Story-Resilience/dp/B09RLY9L9M Erie Silent Club: https://www.facebook.com/ESC3044 Justice for Lonene FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/285829136570490/ Petition: Grant Families of Missing Persons access to Police files after a period of 20 years: https://www.change.org/p/grant-families-of-missing-persons-access-to-police-files-after-a-period-of-20-years For a list of related non-profit organizations and other resources that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: vandalism, stalking, harassment, cyberstalking, emotional, mental, and physical abuse, arson, and murder. Debbie Riddle is a graphic designer, mother, wife, survivor of stalking, and co-victim of murder from Ohio. In these two episodes, Debbie shares about her role as big sister to Peggy, a shining light of the Klinke family. In 1998, as Peggy turned to higher academia to empower herself post-divorce, she met a man that would change her trajectory forever. What would ensue is a controlling, harmful relationship that Peggy eventually freed herself from. However, her ex-boyfriend began viciously and relentlessly stalking Peggy, her family members, and Peggy’s new boyfriend, Mark. Then, on January 18th, 2003, the stalking would end tragically. Since Peggy’s murder, Debbie has turned her pain into purpose, and become a world-renown speaker on stalking awareness, even helping establish national awareness events through legislation. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply indebted to Debbie for her energy, warmth, advocacy, and deep desire to make the world a safer place. This episode is in loving memory of Peggy Klinke.Stalking Prevention, Awareness, and Resource Centerhttps://www.stalkingawareness.org/National Stalking Awareness Monthhttps://www.stalkingawareness.org/stalking-awareness-month/Day of Action for Stalking Awarenesshttps://www.stalkingawareness.org/day-of-action/Debbie Riddle on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/driddledesign/For a list of additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: vandalism, stalking, harassment, cyberstalking, emotional, mental, and physical abuse, arson, and murder. Debbie Riddle is a graphic designer, mother, wife, survivor of stalking, and co-victim of murder from Ohio. In these two episodes, Debbie shares about her role as big sister to Peggy, a shining light of the Klinke family. In 1998, as Peggy turned to higher academia to empower herself post-divorce, she met a man that would change her trajectory forever. What would ensue is a controlling, harmful relationship that Peggy eventually freed herself from. However, her ex-boyfriend began viciously and relentlessly stalking Peggy, her family members, and Peggy’s new boyfriend, Mark. Then, on January 18th, 2003, the stalking would end tragically. Since Peggy’s murder, Debbie has turned her pain into purpose, and become a world-renown speaker on stalking awareness, even helping establish national awareness events through legislation. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply indebted to Debbie for her energy, warmth, advocacy, and deep desire to make the world a safer place. This episode is in loving memory of Peggy Klinke.Stalking Prevention, Awareness, and Resource Centerhttps://www.stalkingawareness.org/National Stalking Awareness Monthhttps://www.stalkingawareness.org/stalking-awareness-month/Debbie Riddle on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/driddledesign/For a list of additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: intimate partner violence, domestic violence, rape, sexual assault, stalking, religious abuse, and cultic abuse. Something Was Wrong Season 21 episodes 9 through 12 aired in August of 2024 and highlighted Jubilee's abusive experiences as a young new member of the Bethel Church. After receiving a prophecy from a church leader regarding her so-called destined relationship, she also entered a church-sanctioned marriage that would become highly abusive. Jubilee then candidly shared about the incredibly difficult process of extricating herself from both the church and her marriage. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful that Jubilee was willing to return to share all that's come next for her since her episodes of Something Was Wrong aired, which include several shocking updates, as well as news of the launch of her own new podcast, Healed-ish. Something Was Wrong Season 21, Jubilee’s story, Part 1: https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-14-jubilee-bethel-school-of-supernatural-ministry/ Something Was Wrong Season 21, Jubilee’s story, Part 2: https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-24-jubilee-signs-amp-wonders/ Something Was Wrong Season 21, Jubilee’s story, Part 3: https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-34-jubilee-words-of-knowledge/ Something Was Wrong Season 21 Episode 4: https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-44-jubilee-dead-raiser/ Healed-ish Podcast: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/jubilee-dawns/ Jubilee on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jubileedawns Jubilee on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jubileedawns/ Why Does He Do That?: Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men https://www.amazon.com/Why-Does-He-That-Controlling/dp/0425191656 *Free + Confidential Resources + Safety Tips: somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: drug-facilitated sexual assault, human trafficking, and vehicular manslaughter. Shawnee Baker is a co-victim, mother of five, an author, non-profit organization founder, and nurse from Ontario, Canada. In this episode, Shawnee shares about her daughter Baylie, a bright, motivated college sophomore with hopes of becoming a neurologist. However, as Baylie’s second year of college began her life would be tragically cut short under suspicious, allegedly criminal circumstances. Now, Shawnee is working to bring awareness, education, and safety resources to young adults all over the country in honor of Baylie’s legacy. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful for Shawnee’s willingness to share Baylie, as well as her grace, wisdom, and advocacy, with our audience. This episode is in loving memory of Baylie Grogan. Baylie's Wish Foundation https://www.baylieswish.org/foundation Baylie: A life shattered. A promise kept. A secret revealed. https://www.baylieswish.org/book Into the Gray Zone: A Neurologist Explores the Border Between Life & Death https://intothegrayzone.com/ National Crime Prevention Council https://www.ncpc.org/ The Gabby Petito Foundation https://gabbypetitofoundation.org/ For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: infidelity, physical abuse, intimate partner violence, domestic violence, and murder. Jenn Holman is a survivor, mother, and faithful family woman living in Idaho by way of Southern California. Our paths first crossed over eighteen years ago, when she began dating my brother (whom she has chosen to address as Jesse in this episode, although I have referred to him as ‘Rory’ in the past). Her relationship with Jesse began a year and a few months prior to my mother’s murder, and although I was privy to a portion of what Jenn will share in this conversation, some of the more explicit details of the abuse she faced evaded us as a family. Through this interview, I've also now learned a lot more about the night my mom was murdered. I commend her bravery in sharing, and am personally, deeply grateful she was willing to divulge so much with us today. It may have taken us nearly eighteen years to have this conversation, but as Hippocrates said, “Healing is a matter of time, but it is sometimes also a matter of opportunity.” Jenn on X https://x.com/jennjenn10 Petition: Keep Jesse Winnick in Prison https://www.change.org/p/sign-to-keep-jesse-winnick-in-prison-in-loving-memory-of-hadas-winnick Evil Lives Here: Season 11, Episode 2 - What if He Gets Out? https://www.hbomax.com/is/en/shows/evil-lives-here/s11/92560c9b-551c-4fe8-82aa-ae5e023e2d69/e2-what-if-he-gets-out/5d9627e6-fdd8-40f3-8d48-c07e5fdfac0c I’m Related to a Killer: Season 1, Episode 1 - Jesse Winnick https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0DG1DJQG9/ref=atv_hm_hom_c_lZOsi7_1_34?jic=8%7CEgNhbGw%3D For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: suicidal ideation, suicide, image-based sexual abuse, coercion, intimate partner violence, and human trafficking. Norma Buster is a survivor, speaker, podcaster, and Chief of Staff at C.A. Goldberg Law, a Brooklyn-based victims rights law firm. Norma grew up with a passion for fashion, but after experiencing harassment and image-based sexual abuse at a pivotal point in her life, Norma was inspired to help other victims. She does so in her position at the legal firm, and she also continues that mission with her speaking and podcasting efforts. Her show, Oral Arguments, is geared towards sex positivity and empowerment, especially in relation to tech and victims rights. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful for Norma’s advocacy work, as well as her candidness throughout this very empowering, illuminating conversation. Norma's Website: https://www.normabuster.com/ Norma on Instagram: http://https://www.instagram.com/normabuster_ CA Goldberg Law: https://www.cagoldberglaw.com/ CA Goldberg Law on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cagoldberglaw/ Oral Arguments Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/3R4xGDNE4p6oLxjaXS2scs Oral Arguments Podcast on IG: https://www.instagram.com/oralargumentspodcast/ For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: coercion, blackmail, extortion, abduction, kidnapping, slavery, sociopathy, psychopathy, intimate partner violence, and attempted murder.Megan is a loving family woman, equestrian, and survivor of abduction and attempted slavery born in Southern California. Although Megan spent many of her younger years growing her love for horses at her family’s idyllic Colorado stable, her life prior was anything but calm. In fact, Megan was originally named Fallon Daniel, and on November 21st, 1985, Megan’s birth father would attempt to extort $90,000 from the couple who would eventually adopt and raise her. After an unprecedented case that took the media by storm, Megan has joined us to share about all that’s come next for her in her journey and healing. The Broken Cycle Media team is undeniably grateful for my friend’s candor and advocacy, especially as this is the first time she’s shared her story at-large. We are also grateful for Megan’s mother, Susan, who was willing to join us for a short chat, which you will hear within this episode as well. Adult Children of Alcoholics and Dysfunctional Familieshttps://adultchildren.org/Andrea Ashley’s Adult Child Podcast https://www.adultchildpodcast.com/Adult Child Podcast on Instagramhttp://www.instagram.com/adultchildpodBesser van der Kolk’s bookshttps://www.besselvanderkolk.com/resources/the-body-keeps-the-scoreComplex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving by Pete Walkerhttps://www.pete-walker.com/complex_ptsd_book.htmlIt Didn’t Start With You by Mark Wolynnhttps://markwolynn.com/it-didnt-start-with-you/For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Green Chef for sponsoring this episode. Don’t forget, you can make this summer your healthiest yet with Green Chef by heading to Greenchef.com/50WCN and use code 50WCN to get 50% off your first month, then 20% off for two months with free shipping.

*Content warning: harassment, cyberstalking, workplace abuse, sexual abuse material, sexual sadism, murder, and serial murder. Javier Leiva is a podcast host and Emmy award-winning producer. His show, Pretend Podcast, began airing in 2017 and highlights cases of fraud executed by perpetrators from cult leaders to con artists to undercover FBI agents. However, it was in June 2024 that Pretend's eighteenth season became much more personal for him. At first, accusations against Arkansas based LaDonna Humphrey barely grabbed his attention. But the more accusations he received, the more Javier realized he had to work to uncover the truth about LaDonna, a seasoned true crime podcaster and author herself. And almost immediately after Javier reached out to her for comment, he would begin to experience alleged harassment too, joining the growing list of Ladonna's accusers. The Broken Cycle media team is incredibly grateful Javier was willing to share the behind the scenes of this formative season, and all that came next for him as his own role shifted from host to victim. Pretend Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962 Javier on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/javier_ontheair Pretend Podcast on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/ Pretend Podcast on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio/ For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: intimate partner violence, domestic violence, officer-involved domestic violence, and murder.Join Amy B. Chesler for a new episode of 'Questions & Answers' regarding What Came Next, Broken Cycle Media, and more. Submit Your Story: https://somethingwaswrong.com/submissions/WCN on IG: https://www.instagram.com/whatcamenext_podcast/What Came Next featuring Hannah Vanderhorst: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hannah-vanderhorst-something-so-sinister-part-1/id1674051643?i=1000703125368What Came Next featuring Bruce Bieber: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bruce-bieber-i-was-the-uninitiated-part-1/id1674051643?i=1000712717519What Came Next featuring Tabatha Ross-Brown:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tabatha-ross-brown-believed-instead-of-blamed/id1674051643?i=1000655144155[Amy B. Chesler] The Darkest Times Are All Behind Me:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/amy-b-chesler-evil-lives-here-the-darkest-times-are/id1674051643?i=1000612743331Season 7 SWW: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/something-was-wrong/id1447286743Sign to Keep Jesse Winnick in Prison: https://www.change.org/p/sign-to-keep-jesse-winnick-in-prison-in-loving-memory-of-hadas-winnickAmy on IG: http://www.instagram.com/amybcheslerAmy on Tik Tok: http://www.tiktok.com/@amybcheslerFamilicide:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/familicide-true-crime-survivor-stories-of-family-murder/id1790959014Working for Justice: https://amzn.to/3If2Z6tNon-fiction manuscript proposal template: https://twliterary.com/bookproposal/For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: animal cruelty, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, cold cases, gun violence, and murder. Haley Gray is a credentialed victim advocate and podcast researcher, writer, and producer whose extensive career in podcasting has seen many phases. Over the last nine years, she has lent her skills to numerous well-known true crime podcasts with an ever-growing intent to make the true crime podcasting space a more ethical and equitable one. In this very candid conversation, Haley shared about her own journey, her growing awareness, as well as innumerable tips and takeaways for victims and those seeking to make a difference for victims. The Broken Cycle Media is incredibly appreciative of Haley’s work, mission, and all that she does to support the victim community. About Victims’ Rights: https://www.victimlaw.org/victimlaw/pages/victimsRight.jsp Advocacy Tips for Families: https://haleygrayresearch.com/tips-for-families/ Advocacy Tips for Advocates & Creators: https://haleygrayresearch.com/tips-for-advocates-and-creators/ Bridegan Foundation: https://www.brideganfoundation.org/ Haley Gray Research: https://haleygrayresearch.com/ Haley Gray Research on IG: https://www.instagram.com/haleygrayresearch Light The Way Missing Persons Advocacy Project: https://www.lightthewaymissing.com/ Moms and Mysteries: https://www.momsandmysteries.com/ National Organization for Victim Advocacy: https://trynova.org/ National Advocate Credentialing Program: https://www.thenacp.org/ Petition - Grant Families of Missing Persons access to Police files after a period of 20 years: https://www.change.org/p/grant-families-of-missing-persons-access-to-police-files-after-a-period-of-20-years Project Cold Case: https://projectcoldcase.org/ Solve the Case: https://www.solvethecase.org/about Stalking Prevention, Awareness, & Resource Center: https://www.stalkingawareness.org/ True Crime Research Training: https://truecrimeresearchtraining.com/ For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: gun violence, intimate partner violence, domestic violence, officer-involved domestic violence, and murder. As shared in part one of his story, Bruce Bieber is a retiree from New York who had an illustrious career in commercial construction. However, after retiring and moving to Florida to live minutes away from his three adult children, Bruce and his family would experience a horrific heartache: the murder of Bruce’s beloved daughter, Abby, on January 29th, 2022. Since Abby’s life was stolen, Bruce has made it his mission to bring awareness to OIDV, or officer-involved domestic violence. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful Bruce was willing to share his resiliency, strength, and love for Abby, as well as his continued mission built from advocacy. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Abigail Rose Bieber. Blumenstein, L. (n.d.). Domestic violence within law enforcement families: The link between traditional police subculture and domestic violence among police. Digital Commons @ University of South Florida. https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/etd/1862/ Police Family Violence Fact Sheet. (n.d.). In National Center for Women & Policing. https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2017R1/Downloads/CommitteeMeetingDocument/132808 Russell, B. L., & Pappas, N. (2018). Officer involved domestic violence. International Journal of Police Science & Management, 20(2), 134–142. https://doi.org/10.1177/1461355718774579 Telling Amy’s story. (2023, April 24). [Video]. PBS. https://www.pbs.org/video/telling-amys-story-84oxa5/ Bruce's Linktree https://linktr.ee/brucebieber If you or someone you know is need of domestic violence related support, please visit the episode notes for resources or call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-7233. For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources. Thank you again to Green Chef for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to head to greenchef.com/50wcn and use code 50WCN to get 50% off your first month, then 20% off for two months with free shipping.

Content warning: gun violence, intimate partner violence, domestic violence, officer-involved domestic violence, and murder.Bruce Bieber is a retiree from New York who had an illustrious career in commercial construction. However, after retiring and moving to Florida to live minutes away from his three adult children, Bruce and his family would experience a horrific heartache: the murder of Bruce’s beloved daughter, Abby, on January 29th, 2022. Since Abby’s life was stolen, Bruce has made it his mission to bring awareness to OIDV, or officer-involved domestic violence. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful Bruce was willing to share his resiliency, strength, and love for Abby, as well as his continued mission built from advocacy. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Abigail Rose Bieber.Bruce's Linktree:https://linktr.ee/brucebieberFor a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: arson, assault, fetal abduction, kidnapping, attempted murder, murder, substance use, and substance use disorder. As shared in part one, Angelique Robledo is an incredible mother and survivor living in Arizona. She was born in Southern California, but after a pivotal move nearly four hundred miles east in her middle school years, she found herself having trouble fitting in. Several years later, and not long after finding out she was pregnant, Angelique was introduced (by a mutual friend) to a Maricopa newcomer who she seemed to have a lot in common with. Over the next several months she would get to know the also-18-year-old via text and social media; they would discuss their pregnancies and build what Angelique considered a friendship. But everything changed on February 16, 2011, when their burgeoning relationship became nearly lethal. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply honored and grateful that Angelique was willing to so rawly share about her experiences and all that came next for her after courageously surviving an alleged attempted fetal abduction and attempted arson. Angelique's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/angelique.robledo92/ Angelique's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@angeliquemonet0 Sources: Dr. Phil Fanatic. (2025, March 12). Dr. Phil - s11 e97: Baby Snatcher: Barely escaping a fetal abduction? [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbDdw19NLgI Welner M, Burgess A, O'Malley KY. Fetal abduction by maternal evisceration: A planned homicide. Forensic Sci Int. 2021 Dec;329:111057. doi: 10.1016/j.forsciint.2021.111057. Epub 2021 Oct 17. PMID: 34739916. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34739916/ For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: arson, assault, fetal abduction, kidnapping, attempted murder, murder, substance use, and substance use disorder. Angelique Robledo is an incredible mother and survivor living in Arizona. She was born in Southern California, but after a pivotal move nearly four hundred miles east in her middle school years, she found herself having trouble fitting in. Several years later, and not long after finding out she was pregnant, Angelique was introduced (by a mutual friend) to a Maricopa newcomer who she seemed to have a lot in common with. Over the next several months she would get to know the also-18-year-old via text and social media; they would discuss their pregnancies and build what Angelique considered a friendship. But everything changed on February 16, 2011, when their burgeoning relationship became nearly lethal. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply honored and grateful that Angelique was willing to so rawly share about her experiences and all that came next for her after courageously surviving an alleged attempted fetal abduction and attempted arson. Angelique's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/angelique.robledo92/ Angelique's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@angeliquemonet0 For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: robbery, armed robbery, gun violence, domestic violence, extortion, and corruption.Maya is a teacher, artist, and multi-crime survivor from Los Angeles. After finishing her undergraduate degree in Spanish in 1996 (at the age of 22), Maya found herself seeking direction. But it was only a couple months after her graduation that she experienced a life-changing armed robbery. Not long after that, she would travel to Argentina and forge a new life for herself far from the San Fernando Valley. However, she would be faced with even more tumult and trauma when financial, political, and socioeconomic crises in her new home increased crime rates, exposing her to the harsh reality of a nation’s unrest. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful Maya was willing to share all that came next for her as a her multi-crime survivor, and Amy is especially, personally grateful for her because she’s one of Amy's best friends and cousin. Argentina Crime Rate & Statistics 2001-2025 | MacroTrends. (2025, April 30). https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/ARG/argentina/crime-rate-statisticsBank robber sues bank - UPI Archives. (1987, August 12). UPI. https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/08/12/Bank-robber-sues-bank/1575555739200/Bernstein, S. (2019, March 5). Armed Robbers hit Tarzana Bank - Los Angeles Times. Los Angeles Times. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-06-29-me-19764-story.htmlCutrona, S. A. (2017). Violence And Public Policy In Argentina – Analysis. Eurasia Review. https://www.vanderbilt.edu/lapop/news/030617.Argentina-EurasiaReview.pdfDonati, L. (2022). A Detailed Description of Corrupt Events in Argentina’s History: The role of corruption in Argentine politics, 1966 to 2022. Retrieved May 1, 2025, from https://jewlscholar.mtsu.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/b3b8ee0d-a748-4af8-99cd-5a540ffa0808/contentIBM Contends with a Scandal in Argentina. (n.d.). New York Times. https://www.nytimes.com/1996/03/09/business/ibm-contends-with-a-scandal-in-argentina.htmlRefworld - UNHCR’s Global Law and Policy Database. (2025, April 15). Human Rights Watch World Report 2000 - Argentina. Refworld. https://www.refworld.org/reference/annualreport/hrw/1999/en/22985Wikipedia contributors. (2025, January 1). Historical exchange rates of Argentine currency. Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_exchange_rates_of_Argentine_currencyWikipedia contributors. (2025b, May 4). List of heads of state of Argentina. Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heads_of_state_of_ArgentinaFor a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: depression, suicidal ideation, suicide, sexual assault, rape, and sexual abuse. As shared in Episode 52 'What Happens Next // Part Two' (which originally aired on January 12th, 2024), Kelly Gee is a former professional hockey player and coach, and the current powerhouse executive director of the non profit organization Survivors for Change. Kelly has always been driven to make an impact, but it wasn't until surviving alleged sexual abuse at the hands of his former coach that he found his true calling: being an inspiration and motivator for survivors around the world. He hopes to utilize all that continues to come next for him in his journey for justice and peace to change present and future resources and support for all victims. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for all of Kelly’s advocacy and continued efforts for survivors, as well as for this conversation. Survivors for Change https://www.survivorsforchange.org/ Survivors for Change Instagram https://www.instagram.com/weares4c/ Survivor for Change Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheS4C/ The Incubation of Silence https://vimeo.com/549070172?share=copy The Army of Survivors https://thearmyofsurvivors.org/ Child USA https://childusa.org/ “I Was One of Them:’ Kelly Gee Speaks Out via The Athletic https://theathletic.com/1956786/2020/07/28/i-was-one-of-them-survivor-of-alleged-sexual-abuse-by-hockey-coach-speaks-out/ Additional help and resources are available 24 hours a day at the National Sexual Assault Hotline, which can be reached at 1 800 656 4673 and the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline at 988. You are not alone. For more resources, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: depression, suicidal ideation, substance use disorder, sexual assault, rape, and sexual abuse. As shared in Episode 51 'Against Big Odds // Part 1' (which originally aired on January 5th, 2024), Kelly Gee is a former professional hockey player and coach and the current executive director of the non profit organization Survivors for Change. Kelly has always been driven to make an impact, but it wasn't until surviving alleged sexual abuse at the hands of his former coach that he found his true calling: being an inspiration and motivator for survivors around the world. He hopes to utilize all that continues to come next for him in his journey for justice and peace to change, present and future resources and support for all victims. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for all of Kelly’s advocacy and continued efforts for survivors, as well as for this conversation. Survivors for Change https://www.survivorsforchange.org/ Survivors for Change Instagram https://www.instagram.com/weares4c/ “I Was One of Them:’ Kelly Gee Speaks Out via The Athletic https://theathletic.com/1956786/2020/07/28/i-was-one-of-them-survivor-of-alleged-sexual-abuse-by-hockey-coach-speaks-out/ The Incubation of Silence https://vimeo.com/549070172?share=copy Trauma-Informed Care in Behavioral Health Services: Understanding the Impact of Trauma https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK207191/ Additional help and resources are available 24 hours a day at the National Sexual Assault Hotline, which can be reached at 1 800 656 4673 and the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline at 988. You are not alone. For more resources, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: sexual abuse and child sexual abuse. It has been a great honor to host Mike Sacks and Kelly Gee on What Came Next prior to this conversation. Kelly first shared his experiences of abuse in episodes 51 and 52, entitled “Against Big Odds” and “What Happens Next,” which aired in January of 2024. Episodes 109 and 110, entitled “Silence is an Incubator” and “Up to Us to Protect,” were released over a year later and highlight Mike’s abuse experiences with the same hockey coach nearly a decade prior to Kelly's abuse. The two men, united by sharing their experiences in the media and a similar mission to change the world, created a non-profit organization called Survivors for Change. In this special episode of What Came Next, both men join us again to share about their process of developing a revolutionary program for survivors and their support systems in the wake of their healing. The Broken Cycle Media team extends our immense gratitude to the Survivors for Change team; it’s survivors and organizations like them that will enable the vicious cycle to end. Survivors for Change: https://www.survivorsforchange.org/ Survivors for Change Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheS4C/ Survivors for Change Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/weares4c/ Kelly Gee's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/goaliedr/ Mike Sacks's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/msackss4c/ [Mike Sacks] Silence is an Incubator // Part 1 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mike-sacks-silence-is-an-incubator-part-1/id1674051643?i=1000689894186 [Mike Sacks] Up to Us to Protect // Part 2 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mike-sacks-up-to-us-to-protect-part-2/id1674051643?i=1000692173278 Ep. 51 [Kelly Gee] Against Big Odds // Part 1 - 1/5/24 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-51-kelly-gee-against-big-odds-part-1-1-5-24/id1674051643?i=1000708699137 Ep. 52 [Kelly Gee] What Happens Next // Part 2 - 1/12/24 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-52-kelly-gee-what-happens-next-part-2-1-12-24/id1674051643?i=1000708699138 'I was one of them:' Survivor of alleged sexual abuse by hockey coach speaks out https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1956786/2020/07/28/i-was-one-of-them-survivor-of-alleged-sexual-abuse-by-hockey-coach-speaks-out/ Three former players join lawsuit over alleged abuse by hockey coach Adrahtas https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4204181/2021/07/23/three-former-players-join-lawsuit-over-alleged-abuse-by-hockey-coach-adrahtas/ Resources: RAINN - Rape, Abuse, & Incest National Network: https://rainn.org/ National Alliance on Mental Health: https://www.nami.org/ For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: child sexual abuse material, child sexual assault, sexual assault, nonconsensual pornography, sexual violence, sexual paraphilia, and pedophilia. Kim is a mother and nurse from Indiana. She reached out to the Broken Cycle Media team in hopes of sharing her story for the first time to bring awareness to a trajectory she never thought she would have had to traverse. Nearly a decade into her marriage, her whole life changed with a home raid by the FBI and several other criminal justice forces. The organizations would consequently find a large catalogue of child sexual abuse material in her then-husband’s possession. However, at the start, Kim was not aware of all facets of his crimes. It would eventually take her years to learn everything, as well as to receive what closure the legal system offered. We are so grateful that Kim was willing to highlight all that continues to come next for her and her children, and that she is sharing her immense fortitude and strength with our audience today.Sources:Case Law summary | i. SORNA Requirements | Office of Sex Offender Sentencing, Monitoring, Apprehending, Registering, and Tracking. (n.d.). Office of Sex Offender Sentencing, Monitoring, Apprehending, Registering, and Tracking. https://smart.ojp.gov/sorna/current-law/case-law/i-sorna-requirementsInternational Megan’s Law of 2016 (P.L. 114-119) | U.S. Representative. (n.d.). https://chrissmith.house.gov/lawsandresolutions/international-megan-s-law.htmFor a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources.

Content warning: child sexual abuse material, child sexual assault, sexual assault, nonconsensual pornography, sexual violence, sexual paraphilia, and pedophilia. Kim is a mother and nurse from Indiana. She reached out to the Broken Cycle Media team in hopes of sharing her story for the first time to bring awareness to a trajectory she never thought she would have had to traverse. Nearly a decade into her marriage, her whole life changed with a home raid by the FBI and several other criminal justice forces. The organizations would consequently find a large catalogue of child sexual abuse material in her then-husband’s possession. However, at the start, Kim was not aware of all facets of his crimes. It would eventually take her years to learn everything, as well as to receive what closure the legal system offered. We are so grateful that Kim was willing to highlight all that continues to come next for her and her children, and that she is sharing her immense fortitude and strength with our audience today.For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Green Chef for sponsoring this episode. Don’t forget: to make this spring your most delicious yet with Green Chef, head to greenchef.com/50WCN and use code 50WCN to get 50% off your first month, then 20% off for two months with free shipping!

Content warning: assault, sexual assault, rape, serial rape, and nonconsensual pornography. As shared in part one of her story, Hannah Vanderhorst is a special education teacher and administrator living in Denver, Colorado. Having moved to the city in 2016, just before going through a breakup, Hannah turned to dating apps to expand her social circle and look for potential love. However, an October 2019 date changed her trajectory forever. It was on this date that she became a victim of a serial sexual predator, although she wouldn’t find that out until over three years after her assault. Hannah would then join a taxing legal battle to receive justice, witness legal change elicited by her and others’ experiences, and work to heal from the trauma. The Broken Cycle Media team is grateful that Hannah was willing to so selflessly share her story to bring awareness to our listeners.Sources: Allyn, B. (2024, February 15). Maker of Tinder, Hinge sued over “addictive” dating apps that put profits over love. NPR. https://www.npr.org/2024/02/14/1231513991/tinder-hinge-match-group-lawsuitDugdale, E., & Harjani, H. (2025, March 6). Rape under wraps: how Tinder, Hinge and their corporate owner chose profits over safety. The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/13/tinder-hinge-match-investigationMaass, B. (2024, March 11). Colorado bill seeking to regulate dating apps passes through committee: “Something clearly has to be done.” CBS News. https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/colorado-lawmakers-seek-regulate-dating-apps-following-cardiologist-case/Maass, B. (2024, October 26). Cardiologist Stephen Matthews sentenced to 158 years for drugging, sexually assaulting Colorado women he met on dating apps. CBS News. https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/stephen-matthews-sentenced-158-years-drugging-sexually-assaulting-women-met-dating-apps-cardiologist/Online-Facilitated Misconduct & Remote Tracking | Colorado General Assembly. (n.d.). Colorado General Assembly. https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/sb24-011Schweitzer, A. (2025, February 25). Online dating giant Match Group is slow to remove dangerous daters, investigation finds. NPR. https://www.npr.org/2025/02/21/nx-s1-5301046/match-group-dating-app-tinder-hinge-assault-cases-investigationhttps://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/stephen-matthews-verdict/73-b3d763d5-5469-4852-a86a-e4c64d740ef7For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: assault, sexual assault, rape, serial rape, and nonconsensual pornography. Hannah Vanderhorst is a special education teacher and administrator living in Denver, Colorado. Having moved to the city in 2016, just before going through a breakup, Hannah turned to dating apps to expand her social circle and look for potential love. However, an October 2019 date changed her trajectory forever. It was on this date that she became a victim of a serial sexual predator, although she wouldn’t find that out until over three years after her assault. Hannah would then join a taxing legal battle to receive justice, witness legal change elicited by her and others’ experiences, and work to heal from the trauma. The Broken Cycle Media team is grateful that Hannah was willing to so selflessly share her story to bring awareness to our listeners. Sources: Maass, B. (2024, October 26). Cardiologist Stephen Matthews sentenced to 158 years for drugging, sexually assaulting Colorado women he met on dating apps. CBS News. https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/stephen-matthews-sentenced-158-years-drugging-sexually-assaulting-women-met-dating-apps-cardiologist/ For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: pedophilia, sexual sadism, paraphilia, psychopathy, brutality, child sexual abuse material, rape, sexual assault, torture, and murder. Joan Hoyt is a business professional and family woman from Santa Cruz, California. Although she has proudly served her county as a juror before, a 2024 jury duty assignment opened her eyes to the harsh realities of a criminal justice process she would have never thought was real prior. Her assignment included listening to the heartbreaking facts of Madyson Middleton’s gruesome 2015 murder, then deeming whether Madyson’s murderer should be released from juvenile incarceration in February of 2025, only ten years later. And when the jurors learned this process will occur every two years in perpetuity because of laws placed in effect after Madyson’s murder, Joan and her fellow jurors began using all they witnessed as fuel towards making legal change. The Broken Cycle Media team is so deeply grateful Joan was willing to share her unique perspective with us today, and that she continues to fight for justice for Madyson and so many others. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Madyson Middleton. Sources: California Supreme Court Upholds Law Protecting 14–15-Year-Olds from Transfer to Adult Court. (2022, July 27). National Center for Youth Law. https://youthlaw.org/news/california-supreme-court-upholds-law-protecting-14-15-year-olds-transfer-adult-courtChun, M. (2025, February 28). Juror in Gonzalez trial urges reform of state bill that prevented him from being charged as adult, allows repeat chances for release. Lookout Santa Cruz. https://lookout.co/juror-in-adrian-gonzalez-trial-urge-reform-of-state-bill-that-prevented-him-from-being-charged-as-adult-allows-repeat-chances-for-release/storySanta Cruz jury denies release of man convicted of murdering 8-year-old Maddy Middleton. (2025, February 20). ABC7 San Francisco. https://abc7news.com/post/maddy-middleton-death-santa-cruz-jury-denies-release-adrian-gonzalez-man-convicted-murdering-raping-8-year-old-girl/15934976/For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: fraud and professional abuse.As shared in part one of her story, Victoria Latham is an established professional living in South Carolina. At the encouragement of her friend Lauren (who will also be sharing her perspective on the following episodes), Victoria has joined us to share about her experiences working for a burgeoning technology company that collapsed after its founder was charged with and sentenced for twenty counts of wire fraud amounting to over nine million dollars. It was Victoria’s diligent evidence collection and courage to report that deeply contributed to prosecutors’ success. However, this is the first time Victoria will have shared at-large about all that she’s navigated in the process. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for all of Victoria and Lauren’s time, energy, and care in walking us through what was a very layered battle for justice.Victoria's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/victorialathamOliver Pluff & Co: http://www.oliverpluff.comSources:Charleston man and business indicted in federal court in over $9M. (2019, May 15). https://www.justice.gov/usao-sc/pr/charleston-man-and-business-indicted-federal-court-over-9m-fraudNeel, M. a. S. M. R. S. C. (2021, November 30). ARIN taking a hard line on fraud pays off in Precedent-Setting criminal trial and conviction. American Registry for Internet Numbers. https://www.arin.net/blog/2021/11/30/hard-line-fraud-pays-off/For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: fraud and professional abuse. As shared in part one of her story, Victoria Latham is an established professional living in South Carolina. At the encouragement of her friend Lauren (who will also be sharing her perspective on the following episodes), Victoria has joined us to share about her experiences working for a burgeoning technology company that collapsed after its founder was charged with and sentenced for twenty counts of wire fraud amounting to over nine million dollars. It was Victoria’s diligent evidence collection and courage to report that deeply contributed to prosecutors’ success. However, this is the first time Victoria will have shared at-large about all that she’s navigated in the process. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for all of Victoria and Lauren’s time, energy, and care in walking us through what was a very layered battle for justice. Sources: Charleston man and business indicted in federal court in over $9M. (2019, May 15). https://www.justice.gov/usao-sc/pr/charleston-man-and-business-indicted-federal-court-over-9m-fraud Neel, M. a. S. M. R. S. C. (2021, November 30). ARIN taking a hard line on fraud pays off in Precedent-Setting criminal trial and conviction. American Registry for Internet Numbers. https://www.arin.net/blog/2021/11/30/hard-line-fraud-pays-off/ For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: fraud, professional abuse, child sexual abuse material, and gun violence. Victoria Latham is an established professional living in South Carolina. At the encouragement of her friend Lauren (who will also be sharing her perspective on the following episodes), Victoria has joined us to share about her experiences working for a burgeoning technology company that collapsed after its founder was charged with and sentenced for twenty counts of wire fraud amounting to over nine million dollars. It was Victoria’s diligent evidence collection and courage to report that deeply contributed to prosecutors’ success. However, this is the first time Victoria will have shared at-large about all that she’s navigated in the process. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for all of Victoria and Lauren’s time, energy, and care in walking us through what was a very layered battle for justice. Sources: Charleston man and business indicted in federal court in over $9M. (2019, May 15). https://www.justice.gov/usao-sc/pr/charleston-man-and-business-indicted-federal-court-over-9m-fraud Neel, M. a. S. M. R. S. C. (2021, November 30). ARIN taking a hard line on fraud pays off in Precedent-Setting criminal trial and conviction. American Registry for Internet Numbers. https://www.arin.net/blog/2021/11/30/hard-line-fraud-pays-off/ For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: substance abuse disorder, lethal substance consumption, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, childhood sexual abuse, sexual abuse, rape, statutory rape, pedophilia, murder, and mediumship.As shared in part one of her story, Kiersten Hathcock is a multi-crime survivor, self-taught carpenter, entrepreneur, author, volunteer intuitive medium, and co-founder of the non-profit organization, The National Institute of Law and Justice. Although she was born and raised in Ohio, her journey has taken her to many places and through many professional phases. It wasn’t until turning 36 that her trajectory became much more spiritually-based, and she realized she had become re-attuned to an ability she had first experienced as a child. In the process, she would also recover memories of her own childhood sexual abuse. In uncovering her past, as well as many other victims’ untold narratives, she has become an advocate for the voiceless within her work. Since starting her volunteer role as a medium in cold case murders and other related crimes, she has helped bring justice and/or solace to families across the country. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for her energy, advocacy, and openness to share, and the listener’s nuanced understanding of Kiersten’s narrative. Sources:National Institute for Law and Justice: https://nilj.org/Kiersten’s website: https://www.kierstenhathcock.com/Little Voices: A Memoir https://www.kierstenhathcock.com/littlevoicesmemoir.htmlKiersten’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/kierstenhathcockFor additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources.

Content warning: domestic violence, intimate partner violence, childhood sexual abuse, sexual abuse, rape, statutory rape, pedophilia, murder, and mediumship. Kiersten Hathcock is a multi-crime survivor, self-taught carpenter, entrepreneur, author, volunteer intuitive medium, and co-founder of the non-profit organization, The National Institute of Law and Justice. Although she was born and raised in Ohio, her journey has taken her to many places and through many professional phases. It wasn’t until turning 36 that her trajectory became much more spiritually-based, and she realized she had become re-attuned to an ability she had first experienced as a child. In the process, she would also recover memories of her own childhood sexual abuse. In uncovering her past, as well as many other victims’ untold narratives, she has become an advocate for the voiceless within her work. Since starting her volunteer role as a medium in cold case murders and other related crimes, she has helped bring justice and/or solace to families across the country. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for her energy, advocacy, and openness to share, and the listener’s nuanced understanding of Kiersten’s narrative. Sources: Kiersten’s website: https://www.kierstenhathcock.com/ Little Voices: A Memoir https://www.kierstenhathcock.com/littlevoicesmemoir.html Kiersten’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/kierstenhathcock Chu, J. A., Frey, L. M., Ganzel, B. L., & Matthews, J. A. (1999). Memories of childhood abuse: dissociation, amnesia, and corroboration. The American journal of psychiatry, 156(5), 749–755. https://doi.org/10.1176/ajp.156.5.749 Loftus, E. F., Garry, M., & Feldman, J. (1994). Forgetting sexual trauma: what does it mean when 38% forget?. Journal of consulting and clinical psychology, 62(6), 1177–1186. https://doi.org/10.1037//0022-006x.62.6.1177 Williams L. M. (1994). Recall of childhood trauma: a prospective study of women's memories of child sexual abuse. Journal of consulting and clinical psychology, 62(6), 1167–1176. https://doi.org/10.1037//0022-006x.62.6.1167 Williams L. M. (1995). Recovered memories of abuse in women with documented child sexual victimization histories. Journal of traumatic stress, 8(4), 649–673. https://doi.org/10.1007/BF02102893 For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: domestic violence, intimate partner violence, narcissistic abuse, cultic abuse, cults, and sexual abuse.Liz Iacuzzi is an athlete, writer, performer, and personality who focuses on exploring uncomfortable subject matter through comedy. However, it wasn’t until extricating herself from an acting class-turned-cult that she would eventually discover her next passion: educating the masses about cultic abuse. She does so on her podcast, Was I in a Cult? on which she helps other cult survivors share their stories for awareness. We are so grateful Liz was willing to share her journey with us today, especially because it is one of the first times she’s publicly divulged it at-length. Was I in a Cult? Podcast: https://www.wasiinacult.com/Was I in a Cult? Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wasiinacult/Liz's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/theiacuzziFor a list of resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: substance abuse, suicidal ideation, domestic violence, child abuse, childhood sexual assault, childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault, and sexual abuse. Mike Sacks is a hockey player, telecommunications engineer, founder of the non-profit organization, Survivors for Change, and a true change-maker. Through Survivors for Change, it has become his personal mission to aide survivors of sexual abuse and assault in their journey of healing, alongside Kelly Gee, whose story has also been featured in What Came Next episodes 51 & 52. But before Mike was able to begin helping others, he had to come to terms with his own abuse and begin healing from his childhood experiences. In these episodes, Mike candidly shares about his struggles, the healing process, and what it’s like traversing the media in an attempt to improve procedures in the athletic world. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Mike’s time, energy, and the ability to amplify his efforts towards curating change for athletes around the world. Resources: Survivors for Change: https://www.survivorsforchange.org/ Survivors for Change on FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheS4C WCN E51: [Kelly Gee] Against Big Odds // Part 1 WCN E52: [Kelly Gee] What Happens Next // Part 2 For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources Sources: Goldberg, R. (2020, May 28). USA Hockey Pres. Jim Smith’s Handling of Alleged Sexual Misconduct Investigated. The Bleacher Report. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2893866 Illinois General Assembly - Illinois Compiled Statutes. (n.d.). Illinois General Assembly. https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=073500050K13-202.2 Schulte, S. (2017, August 14). Illinois wipes out statute of limitations for child sex abuse. ABC13 Houston. https://abc13.com/illinois-sex-abuse-statute-of-limitations/2310638/ Strang, K. (2020, February 21). Former players say Chicago area hockey coach sexually abused them. The Athletic. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1591547/2020/02/21/former-players-say-chicago-area-hockey-coach-sexually-abused-them/

Content warning: substance abuse, suicidal ideation, domestic violence, child abuse, childhood sexual assault, childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault, and sexual abuse. Mike Sacks is a hockey player, telecommunications engineer, founder of the non-profit organization, Survivors for Change, and a true change-maker. Through Survivors for Change, it has become his personal mission to aide survivors of sexual abuse and assault in their journey of healing, alongside Kelly Gee, whose story has also been featured in What Came Next episodes 51 & 52. But before Mike was able to begin helping others, he had to come to terms with his own abuse and begin healing from his childhood experiences. In the following episodes, Mike candidly shares about his struggles, the healing process, and what it’s like traversing the media in an attempt to improve procedures in the athletic world. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful for Mike’s time, energy, and the ability to amplify his efforts towards curating change for athletes around the world. Resources: Survivors for Change: https://www.survivorsforchange.org/ WCN E51: [Kelly Gee] Against Big Odds // Part 1 WCN E52: [Kelly Gee] What Happens Next // Part 2 Sources: Goldberg, R. (2020, May 28). USA Hockey Pres. Jim Smith’s Handling of Alleged Sexual Misconduct Investigated. The Bleacher Report. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2893866 Strang, K. (2020, February 21). Former players say Chicago area hockey coach sexually abused them. The Athletic. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1591547/2020/02/21/former-players-say-chicago-area-hockey-coach-sexually-abused-them/ For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: intimate partner violence, domestic violence, and murder.Stacy Kaiser is a licensed psychotherapist, relationship expert, author, and speaker. She was drawn to Psychology in youth and finds deep value in helping others navigate some of the hardest portions of their lives. In this thoughtful conversation, Stacy shares about the field of psychology, offers tips on finding the right therapist, and divulges how she’s utilized her expertise both in-front of the camera and behind-the-scenes of some of true crime’s most well-known docuseries. The Broken Cycle Media team extends our intense gratitude to Stacy for her work, time, energy, and advocacy in this episode and otherwise.Stacy's website: http://www.stacykaiser.com Stacy's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thestacykaiser/For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources Thank you again to Apostrophe for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget, to get started just go to apostrophe.com/wcn and click get started, then use our code WCN at signup and you'll get your first visit for only five dollars.

*Content warning: car accidents, medical trauma, stalking, medical fraud, doula fraud, birth worker abuse, domestic violence homicide, murder, legal abuse. Please sign our petition to hold Jessica Polly accountable: https://www.change.org/p/hold-jessica-polly-accountablePlease sign Amy’s petition to keep Jesse Winnick in Prison:https://www.change.org/p/sign-to-keep-jesse-winnick-in-prison-in-loving-memory-of-hadas-winnickWhat Came Next Episodes referenced in this episode:[Amy B. Chesler - Evil Lives Here] This Sh*t Doesn’t End - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/amy-b-chesler-evil-lives-here-this-sh-t-doesnt-end/id1674051643?i=1000602598564 [Amy B. Chesler - Evil Lives Here] The Darkest Times Are All Behind Me - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/amy-b-chesler-evil-lives-here-the-darkest-times-are/id1674051643?i=1000612743331 [John-Michael Lander] An Athlete’s Silence - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/john-michael-lander-an-athletes-silence/id1674051643?i=1000619765637 [John-Michael Lander] Episode 22 Updates // Part 1 - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/john-michael-lander-episode-22-updates-part-1/id1674051643?i=1000662000663 [John-Michael Lander Hosts] WCN E1 & E13 Updates // Part 2 - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/john-michael-lander-hosts-wcn-e1-e13-updates-part-2/id1674051643?i=1000662716253 [WCN Presents] SWW S19 Updates - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wcn-presents-sww-s19-updates/id1674051643?i=1000667242886 For a list of related free and confidential resources, please visit: http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources FBI Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3): https://www.ic3.gov/ Follow Something Was Wrong:Website: somethingwaswrong.com IG: instagram.com/somethingwaswrongpodcastTikTok: tiktok.com/@somethingwaswrongpodcast Follow Tiffany Reese:Website: tiffanyreese.me IG: instagram.com/lookieboo business@tiffanyreese.me The SWW theme Song is U Think U, by Glad Rags. The S21 cover art is by the Amazing Sara Stewart.

Content warning: sexual assault, physical violence, brutality, and murder. Karie Kroll is a nurse of over 30 years, a family woman, and a co-victim of murder from Iowa. She found her passion for nursing at a young age and pursued a degree in the medical field out of college. However, it was not long into her professional trajectory that her family experienced a devastating loss: the horrific 1996 murder of her sister, Amanda. In this episode, Karie describes all that came next for her family while navigating the criminal justice system throughout the last 30 years, and the drastic changes they experienced just last year. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful for Karie's candidness, advocacy, and her willingness to share her sister's memory with our audience. This episode is in loving memory of Amanda Michelle Folker. Sources:Registrant Information. (2024). In Murderer and Violent Offender Against Youth Database. https://isp.illinois.gov/MVOAY/Details/X16B2238For a list of non-profit organizations and related resources at http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: gun violence, armed robbery, grand theft, and home invasion.Milena Monrroy is a Los Angeles-based producer and the co-host of the podcast Latina Life with Jen and Milena. Her life has been largely influenced by her roles as a single mother and a storyteller, but her trajectory took a drastic turn when she became a victim of a home invasion and armed robbery in January of 2022. The months following would be filled with not only immense stress, upheaval, and fear, but also a taxing legal battle to receive justice. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for Milena’s vulnerability and raw accounts of all that’s came next for her over the last two years, in hopes of bringing awareness to our audience.Milena’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/milenaonairLatina Life with Jen and Milena: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-latina-life-with-jen-and-m-89358863/Latina Life with Jen and Milena on IG: https://www.instagram.com/latinalifepodcastSources:Burglary Statistics. (2024, July 19). The Zebra. https://www.thezebra.com/resources/research/burglary-statistics/Home Invasion Statics By State. (2024, April 11). Consumer Affairs. https://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/home-invasion-statistics-by-state.htmlFor additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: suicidal ideation, intimate partner violence, criminal threats, domestic violence, physical, mental, emotional, and psychological abuse, and gun violence. As shared in part one of her story, Elle Gargano is an entrepreneur, writer, survivor, and victim advocate from Southern California. She originally began sharing her story of resilience after attending the Las Vegas Route 91 festival and surviving a gunshot wound to the head. After enduring several surgeries and physically recovering, Elle began to realize she still had more trauma to digest. After escaping an abusive, nine-year relationship that persisted throughout her entire healing journey, Elle’s path of sharing has evolved and now allows her to advocate for domestic violence victims. The Broken Cycle Media team is so very grateful for Elle’s tenacity, resilience, and willingness to share so much of what came next for her with our audience today. Elle’s website: https://www.ellegargano.com/ Elle’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/ellegargano Elle's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ellegargano Brave the Label: https://bravethelabel.com/ For a list of related non-profit organizations that can help, visit http://www.somethingwaswrong/com/resources

Content warning: intimate partner violence, domestic violence, physical, mental, emotional, and psychological abuse, gun violence and mass murder.Elle Gargano is an entrepreneur, writer, survivor, and victim advocate from Southern California. She originally began sharing her story of resilience after attending the Las Vegas Route 91 festival and surviving a gunshot wound to the head. After enduring several surgeries and physically recovering, Elle began to realize she still had more trauma to digest. After escaping an abusive, nine-year relationship that persisted throughout her entire healing journey, Elle’s path of sharing has evolved and now allows her to advocate for domestic violence victims. The Broken Cycle Media team is so very grateful for Elle’s tenacity, resilience, and willingness to share so much of what came next for her with our audience today. Elle’s website: https://www.ellegargano.com/Elle’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/ellegarganoElle's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ellegarganoBrave the Label: https://bravethelabel.com/For a list of related non-profit organizations that can help, visit http://www.somethingwaswrong/com/resources Thank you again to Mint Mobile for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to visit mintmobile.com/wcn to cut your wireless bill to $15 a month!

Content warning: domestic violence, physical violence, murder, and mass murder. Kyleigh McPeek and Grace Carroll are recent graduates of Stanford University. While they were students there, they launched an honors project that took podcast form. In this special episode of What Came Next, they share about their work on the True Crime Podcast Podcast, and their goal to promote awareness about the impact of - and ethics in - the true crime podcasting industry. The Broken Cycle Media team is not only incredibly grateful for their time and energy, but also for the advocacy and awareness they're promoting through their podcast platform. The True Crime Podcast Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-podcast-podcast/id1763286752 The True Crime Podcast Podcast on IG: https://www.instagram.com/_podcastpodcast Know My Name by Chanel Miller: https://amzn.to/3VAatEO Sources: Boling, K. S. (2022). “It’s that ‘There but for the Grace of God Go I’ Piece of It”: Domestic Violence Survivors in True Crime Podcast Audiences. Mass Communication and Society, 26(6), 991–1013. https://doi.org/10.1080/15205436.2022.2061359 For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations who can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: stalking, catfishing, fraud, narcissistic abuse, gaslighting, self-harm, suicidal ideation, and criminal threats. As shared in part one of her story, Jordan is a mother and survivor from Florida. She originally reached out to the Broken Cycle media team after hearing similarities between her journey and the journeys of the women from season 20 of Something Was Wrong. Jordan was compelled to share her experiences surviving catfishing, fraud, abuse, and stalking, in order to offer awareness and community to others, as Season 20 previously did for her. The Broken Cycle Media team is immensely grateful for Jordan's transparency and desire to continue our mission to support other survivors.Internet Crime Complaint Center: https://www.ic3.gov/For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: stalking, catfishing, fraud, narcissistic abuse, gaslighting, self-harm, suicidal ideation, and criminal threats.Jordan is a mother and survivor from Florida. She originally reached out to the Broken Cycle Media team after hearing similarities between her journey and the journeys of the women from Season 20 of Something Was Wrong. Jordan was compelled to share her experiences surviving catfishing, fraud, abuse, and stalking in order to offer awareness and community to others, as Season 20 previously did for her. The Broken Cycle Media team is immensely grateful for Jordan’s transparency and desire to continue our mission to support other survivors.FBI Internet Crime Complaint Center - https://ic3.gov/For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: sexual abuse, sexual assault, childhood sexual abuse, statutory rape, human trafficking, sex trafficking, and suicide.Lisa Phillips is a model, actress, survivor, and victim advocate who has spent much of her life all over the world. While cultivating a career in the modeling and acting industries, Lisa even found herself overseas and as a guest on Jeffrey Epstein’s private island. That specific trip would become quite traumatic for Lisa, and although she would never return to the property again, she would soon be trafficked into a vast and widespread ring that enabled mass sexual assault. However, it wouldn’t be until after navigating the legal system and sharing her story with other survivors of the same serial abuser, that Lisa truly was confronted by the depth of her trauma. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful Lisa was willing to share all that came next for her in her healing process, and in creating her beautiful podcast community entitled From Now On.Lisa's Links:From Now On Podcast: https://www.lisaphillips.la/podcastLisa Phillips' Website: https://www.lisaphillips.la/From Now On Podcast Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/fromnowonpodLisa's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/iamlisaphillipsFor more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesSources:ABC 7 Chicago. (2024, July 2). Jeffrey Epstein grand jury documents released by judge in Florida [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x8ESdS_mkU.CBS New York. (2019, July 6). Jeffrey Epstein Arrested For Sex Trafficking [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tJ9-tFKJaA&list=PPSVCohen, L. (2023, November 9). JPMorgan’s $290 million settlement with Epstein accusers approved by US judge. Reuters. https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-judge-weigh-jpmorgans-290-million-settlement-with-epstein-accusers-2023-11-09/Ghislaine Maxwell Charged In Manhattan Federal Court For Conspiring With Jeffrey Epstein To Sexually Abuse Minors. (2020, July 2). United States Attorney’s Office. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/ghislaine-maxwell-charged-manhattan-federal-court-conspiring-jeffrey-epstein-sexuallyGhislaine Maxwell Sentenced To 20 Years In Prison For Conspiring With Jeffrey Epstein To Sexually Abuse Minors. (2022, June 28). United States Attorney’s Office. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/ghislaine-maxwell-sentenced-20-years-prison-conspiring-jeffrey-epstein-sexually-abuseNBC News. (2024, January 4). Newly unsealed documents reveal Jeffrey Epstein’s relationships with powerful people [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_x7tg5YO5s&t=4sJeffrey Epstein Charged In Manhattan Federal Court With Sex Trafficking Of Minors. (2019, July 8). Press Release. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/jeffrey-epstein-charged-manhattan-federal-court-sex-trafficking-minorsJudge releases 2006 PBC grand jury documents in Jeffrey Epstein criminal case. (2024, July 1). [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfPV4c2Tnic&t=32sOver $150 Million Paid to Jeffrey Epstein Victims by His Estate Claim Executors in Latest Financial Filing. (2023, November 14). Inside Edition. https://www.insideedition.com/jeffrey-epstein-victims-payments-estate-valueWill We Ever Know How Many Girls Jeffrey Epstein Abused? (2019, July 19). The Cut. https://www.thecut.com/2019/07/how-many-jeffrey-epstein-victims-are-there.htmlWFLA News Channel 8. (2024, July 2). New documents reveal sordid life of Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HloA3-rZnFw&list=PPSV&t=72sWPBF 25 News. (2024, July 1). Judge releases grand jury records in 2008 Jeffrey Epstein criminal case [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3erEsEhjLk&t=12sWPTV News. (2024, July 1). Breakdown of newly released Epstein grand jury testimony [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCz87fmI5ks&list=PPSV

Content warning: childhood sexual assault, childhood sexual abuse, rape, self-harm, suicidal ideation, attempted suicide, domestic violence, fraud, and financial, physical, emotional, mental, psychological, and narcissistic abuse. Anu Verma is a mother, survivor, author, speaker, and film producer from the United Kingdom. Her childhood experiences of sexual abuse, as well as several future toxic relationships she would navigate, deeply affected her trajectory. In this very candid conversation, Anu shares much of her heartbreak and consequent healing, in order to bring awareness and allow other victims to become victors over their own story. The Broken Cycle media team is extremely thankful Anu was willing to share so much of herself in order to allow others to feel less alone.Anu’s website:http://www.victim2victor.com/Anu’s book:https://amzn.to/3AWYqdOAnu’s Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/victim_2_victor_podcast/Anu’s Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/victim2victor/Anu's Podcast:https://victim2victor.net/podcast-episodes-listen-on-apple-spotify/For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: spiritual, religious, financial, mental, and emotional abuse. Lori Adams-Brown is a mother, survivor, leader, and an expert in cross-cultural business affairs. On today’s episode, Lori bravely shares her experiences working for a megachurch, and the consequent financial, verbal, psychological, mental, and spiritual abuse she faced while working for the church. The Broken Cycle Media team is in awe of Lori’s dedication to helping other survivors in the wake of all that came next for her and her family. We’re also grateful she continues to work to equip society with knowledge and awareness through her work and podcasting efforts. Lori’s website: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/ Lori’s podcast, A World of Difference: https://www.aworldofdifferencepodcast.com/ Lori’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lori_adamsbrown/ Petition to Release NDA’s: https://www.change.org/p/petition-to-release-former-echo-church-employees-from-non-disclosure-agreements For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: stalking, burglary, gun violence, mass shooting, and murder. Anthony Jensen is a father, actor, producer, and survivor from Idaho by way of Oregon. He moved to Los Angeles in the late 1980’s to pursue a career in entertainment, and although the years following would be filled with great success, a 1991 shooting would forever impact the way he navigated life. Anthony was the manager of a movie theater, and in the auditorium, when a film’s opening night turned violent. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful that Tony took was willing to share about his experiences that evening, as well as about all that came next in his career and within his healing process. Tony's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/tonyjensen Multnomah Productions: https://multnomahfallsproductions.com/ Sources: Man Guilty in Killing at Drive-In. (n.d.). Chicago Tribune. https://www.chicagotribune.com/1993/05/14/man-guilty-in-killing-at-a-drive-in/ For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: gun violence, stalking, emotional, mental, and psychological abuse, violent threats, criminal threats, hate crimes, racism, antisemitism, transphobia, and homophobia. As shared in part one and two of their story, J.E. Reich is a journalist, editor, survivor, and victim advocate. They shared their story on Something Was Wrong season 6, episodes 5 and 6, which aired on December 6th and December 13th of 2020. The episodes discuss the impact of the devastating 2018 shooting at The Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and the impact the hate crime had on J.E.’s community. The three episodes also bring awareness to the related, horrific stalking J.E. and their family would be subjected to in the years following. However, at the time of the episodes’ release, J.E. and their family had received no justice for the unending harassment and death threats ‘The Caller’ executed over those years. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful J.E. was willing to return today to share more of their journey to seek justice, and about the start of their consequent healing process. Something Was Wrong Season 6 E5, Massacre at the Tree of Life Synagogue | JE: https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-massacre-at-the-tree-of-life-synagogue-je/ Something Was Wrong Season 6 E6, Panic Attack City | JE: https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-panic-attack-city-je/ J.E.'s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/jereichwrites For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: gun violence, stalking, emotional, mental, and psychological abuse, violent threats, criminal threats, hate crimes, antisemitism, transphobia, and homophobia.As shared in part one of their story, J.E. Reich is a journalist, editor, survivor, and victim advocate. They shared their story on Something Was Wrong season 6, episodes 5 and 6, which aired on December 6th and December 13th of 2020. The three episodes discuss the impact of the devastating 2018 shooting at The Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and the impact the hate crime had on J.E.’s community. The episodes also bring awareness to the related, horrific stalking J.E. and their family would be subjected to in the years following. However, at the time of the episodes’ release, J.E. and their family had received no justice for the unending harassment and death threats ‘The Caller’ executed over those years. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful J.E. was willing to return today to share more of their journey to seek justice, and about the start of their consequent healing process.Something Was Wrong Season 6 E5, Massacre at the Tree of Life Synagogue | JE:https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-massacre-at-the-tree-of-life-synagogue-je/Something Was Wrong Season 6 E6, Panic Attack City | JE:https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-panic-attack-city-je/J.E.'s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/jereichwritesFor more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: gun violence, stalking, emotional, mental, and psychological abuse, violent threats, criminal threats, hate crimes, antisemitism, transphobia, homophobia, genocide, and war. J.E. Reich is a journalist, editor, survivor, and victim advocate. They shared their story on Something Was Wrong season 6, episodes 5 and 6, which aired on December 6th and December 13th of 2020. The episodes discuss the impact of the devastating 2018 shooting at The Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and the impact the hate crime had on J.E.’s community. These three episodes also bring awareness to the related, horrific stalking J.E. and their family would be subjected to in the years following. However, at the time of the episodes’ release, J.E. and their family had received no justice for the unending harassment and death threats ‘The Caller’ executed over those years. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful J.E. was willing to return today to share more of their journey to seek justice, and about the start of their consequent healing process. Something Was Wrong Season 6 E5, Massacre at the Tree of Life Synagogue | JE: https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-massacre-at-the-tree-of-life-synagogue-je/ Something Was Wrong Season 6 E6, Panic Attack City | JE: https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-panic-attack-city-je/ J.E.'s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/jereichwrites For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: child sexual assault, child rape, statutory rape, incest, sexual abuse, cultic abuse, religious abuse, narcissistic abuse, assault, physical, emotional, mental, and financial abuse.Jessica Willis-Fisher is a singer-songwriter living in Nashville, Tennessee. Her childhood as the eldest of twelve siblings and member of a family band was marked by great tumult and abuse, despite spending several years in the public eye. Jessica would eventually free herself and deal with all that came next: coming to terms with her abuse, navigating the media, working to see her abuser imprisoned, and healing from the harm. The Broken Cycle Media has immense gratitude for Jessica’s time, energy, and all the awareness she is bringing with this conversation to intrafamilial abuse.Jessica’s website: https://jessicawillisfisher.com/Jessica’s song, “My History:” https://jessicawillisfisher.com/brand-new-day-lp/Unspeakable: Surviving My Childhood and Finding My Voice - https://jessicawillisfisher.com/book/A Little Bit Culty feat. Jessica: https://alittlebitculty.com/episode/behind-the-reality-jessica-willis-fisher-on-her-childhood-abuseFor more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesSources:Fisher, Jessica Willis. “My History.” Brand New Day LP, Bard Craft Records, 2022, Track 6. https://jessicawillisfisher.com/brand-new-day-lp/Baker, K. C. (2017, July 11). Former TLC Star Toby Willis Pleads Guilty to Child Rape and Receives 40-Year Sentence. People Magazine. https://people.com/crime/tlc-toby-willis-guilty-plea-child-rape/

Content warning: gender-based violence, abuse, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, and rape. Alison Jones-Lockwood is a mother and victim advocate in Colorado. Her career in aiding survivors began years ago while she was in college, and continues to this day. Although her journey recently pivoted when she became Executive Director of the Rape Crisis Center for Northern Colorado, at the time of our recording she worked with EVAWI or End Violence Against Women International. The Broken Cycle Media team is grateful Alison was able to offer such a broad perspective of the advocacy arena, as well as a detailed account of what’s coming next for EVAWI, as the organization works to change the criminal justice and legal landscapes for victims. Although the importance of advocacy work is always relevant, this conversation is especially timely considering October is Domestic Violence Awareness Month. Sources: How the Indy Star and Rachael Denhollander took down Larry Nassar. (2018, January 25). CNN; CNN. https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/25/us/larry-nassar-indy-star/index.html Investigative Journalist Digs Deeper to Tell Overlooked Stories. (2023, December 5). CSUNshine Today. https://csunshinetoday.csun.edu/community/investigative-journalist-digs-deeper-to-tell-overlooked-stories/ Miller, T., & Armstrong, K. (2015, December 16). An Unbelievable Story of Rape. ProPublica. https://www.propublica.org/article/false-rape-accusations-an-unbelievable-story Resources: SAVA Center: https://www.savacenter.org/ End Violence Against Women International: https://evawintl.org/ Metropolitan Organization to Counter Sexual Assault: https://mocsa.org/ For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: sibling abuse, sexual harassment, voyeurism, stalking, rape, narcissistic abuse, professional abuse, self-harm, and suicide.As shared in part one of her story, Amanda is a mother, mental health compliance professional, and advocate. Nearly twenty years ago, Amanda was employed by a fixture in the family court whose deviousness would be unearthed in 2007 when he faced charges for alleged voyeurism. Her experiences surviving professional abuse, sexual harassment, and suspected voyeurism at the hands of this renowned forensic psychologist have been motivation in Amanda’s mission to ensure the mental health industry fosters safety and wellness. In this episode, Amanda bravely shares what she was subjected to within the walls of this psychologist’s office, and what came next within her healing journey after freeing herself of the abuse. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for Amanda‘s time, energy, professional perspective, and the awareness about professional abuse she is cultivating today and within her work.Resources:Simon, C. (1998). Mad House: Growing Up in the Shadow of Mentally Ill Siblings. Penguin Publishing Group.Zahariades, D. (2017). The Art of Saying No: How To Stand Your Ground, Reclaim Your Time And Energy, And Refuse To Be Taken For Granted (Without Feeling Guilty!).What Came Next, Episode 21 [Tina Swithin] One Mom's Battle: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tina-swithin-one-moms-battle/id1674051643?i=1000618845906Sources:Congress Criminalizes Video Voyeurism. (n.d.). Women’s Congressional Policy Institute. https://www.wcpinst.org/source/congress-criminalizes-video-voyeurism/White, T. (2018). Few video voyeurism cases result in prison sentences. WPRI 12 News. https://www.wpri.com/target-12/few-video-voyeurism-cases-result-in-prison-sentences/For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: sibling abuse, sexual harassment, voyeurism, stalking, rape, narcissistic abuse, professional abuse, self-harm, and suicide. Amanda is a mother, mental health compliance professional, and advocate. Nearly twenty years ago, Amanda was employed by a fixture in the family court whose deviousness would be unearthed in 2007 when he faced charges for alleged voyeurism. Her experiences surviving professional abuse, sexual harassment, and suspected voyeurism at the hands of this renowned forensic psychologist have been motivation in Amanda’s mission to ensure the mental health industry fosters safety and wellness. In this episode, Amanda bravely shares what she was subjected to within the walls of this psychologist’s office, and what came next within her healing journey after freeing herself of the abuse. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for Amanda‘s time, energy, professional perspective, and the awareness about professional abuse she is cultivating today and within her work.For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: infidelity, serial infidelity, narcissistic abuse, and physical, emotional, mental, and financial abuse. Allyn Amerongen is a mental health advocate, podcaster, and survivor of narcissistic abuse. Allyn just launched her new podcast, When Heaven Meets Hell, to highlight her experiences and healing. She also hopes to offer listeners resources and tools to thrive after their own abusive experiences. The Broken Cycle Media team is thankful for Allyn’s perspective, energy, and work in the advocacy space despite all that continues to comes next for her amidst her healing journey. Allyn’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/allyn.amerongen When Heaven Meets Hell podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/when-heaven-meets-hell/id1757647021 For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: substance abuse, substance use disorder, infidelity, serial infidelity, narcissistic abuse, assault, attempted murder, and gun violence. As shared in part one of her story, Jessie Buttafuoco is a mental health professional, advocate, speaker, and co-victim of gun violence from Long Island, New York. Her journey in the media began at an incredibly young age, as the result of a vicious attack and attempt against her mother's life in 1992. Shortly thereafter, pieces of Jessie's family story would be covered by what felt like every media outlet. However, Jessie's own experiences navigating the media, growing up in the public eye, and healing from prolonged trauma have gone largely unshared. Her goals in imparting more of what came next in her personal journey are to bring awareness to the impact and potential detriment of non-consensual media coverage, to offer support to other survivors, and to change the legislative landscape for future generations. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful that Jessie was willing to share so much of her over 30-year journey within the true crime landscape with our audience today. Jessie's website: https://www.jessiebuttafuoco.com/ Jessie’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/jessiebuttafuoco Jessie’s Podcast, Live Your Life Kween: https://open.spotify.com/show/3ueLsPkZA2bj2I9Qk85Xfz Sources: Haidt, J. (2024). The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness. Penguin Press. Efron, Z., Hudgens, V. and Seeley, D. (2006). Start of something new [Song]. High school musical soundtrack [Album]. Walt Disney. For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: substance abuse, substance use disorder, infidelity, serial infidelity, narcissistic abuse, assault, attempted murder, and gun violence. Jessie Buttafuoco is a mental health professional, advocate, speaker, and co-victim of gun violence from Long Island, New York. Her journey in the media began at an incredibly young age, as the result of a vicious attack and attempt against her mother's life in 1992. Shortly thereafter, pieces of Jessie's family story would be covered by what felt like every media outlet. However, Jessie's own experiences navigating the media, growing up in the public eye, and healing from prolonged trauma have gone largely unshared. Her goals in imparting more of what came next in her personal journey are to bring awareness to the impact and potential detriment of non-consensual media coverage, to offer support to other survivors, and to change the legislative landscape for future generations. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful that Jessie was willing to share so much of her over 30-year journey within the true crime landscape with our audience today. Jessie's website: https://www.jessiebuttafuoco.com/ Jessie’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/jessiebuttafuoco Jessie’s Podcast, Live Your Life Kween: https://open.spotify.com/show/3ueLsPkZA2bj2I9Qk85Xfz For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: stalking, cyberstalking, emotional, mental, and psychological abuse, domestic violence, and murder.Something Was Wrong Season 19 featuring Amy's episodes began airing January 11th, 2024 and finished airing February 8th of the same year. In the five episodes, Amy's tenacity and resiliency became resoundingly clear as she and her loved ones recounted all they faced amidst years of stalking and cyber stalking. Through what felt like a never-ending criminal justice and legal battle, Amy would eventually put her stalker, Morrison, behind bars, and she would share in hopes of finding more of his victims. She returns today to share about all that's come next in the parole process since Season 19 ended, and all that she continues to work for in honor of other victims of stalking. The Broken Cycle Media team is immensely grateful for Amy's continued candidness and advocacy, as well as the time, energy, and awareness she's offered our listeners.Something Was Wrong Season 19: https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/season/19/For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Mint Mobile and Miracle Made for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to get Mint Mobile's new customer offer and your new three month premium wireless plan for just $15 a month. Go to mintmobile.com/wcn. See Mint Mobile for details. And remember to upgrade your sleep with MiracleMaid. Go to TryMiracle.com/WCN and use the code WCN to claim your free three piece towel set and save over 40 percent off!

Content warning: infidelity, serial infidelity, narcissistic abuse, stalking, cyberstalking, physical, emotional, mental, and financial abuse. Dr. Kathi Miner is an organizational psychologist, professor, author, and survivor from Southern California. After losing her mother at a very young age, Kathi gained a poignant view of the universe and her desired place in it. As a result, she would eventually become a professor of women’s studies and psychology. She also forged her own family with her ex-husband. However, after finding out about his egregious infidelities and seeking a divorce, Dr. Miner’s entire world would be turned upside down when she began to face incessant narcissistic abuse upon leaving her ex. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely thankful that Dr. Miner was willing to join us today to offer so much of her time, personal perspective, professional expertise, and advocacy. Dr. Miner's website: https://kathiminerphd.com/ Dr. Miner's Book: Dr. Miner's TikTok: http://www.tiktok.com/kathinminerphd Dr. Miner's Instagram: http://ww.instagram.com/kathiminerphd For more information about narcissistic abuse, listen to SWW Data Points: Narcissistic Abuse (featuring Vanessa Reiser, LCSW): https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-data-points-narcissistic-abuse-featuring-vanessa-reiser-lcsw/ For further resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: sexual assault, rape, abduction, murder, and serial murder. Charlie Shunick is a Louisiana educator, co-victim of murder, and advocate for missing persons and their loved ones. The devastating mid-2012 disappearance and murder of her sister, Mickey, altered her life forever. Since then, it is Charlie’s tenacious spirit that has carried her through and enabled her to use her voice for justice and ethical advocacy. Although the road has been difficult and at times debilitating, Charlie has navigated the media, the criminal justice system, and the aftermath of losing her beloved sister, with incredible grace. The Broken Cycle Media team is so thankful that Charlie was willing to share her journey, and her incredible perspective of the true crime landscape throughout it. Sources: National Missing and Unidentified Persons System: Reports and Statistics. (n.d.). https://namus.nij.ojp.gov/library/reports-and-statistics Resources: Missed Australia: https://missed.org.au/ Shunick Missing Persons: https://www.shunickmp.com/ Resource Association for Missing People: https://ramissingpeople.org/ Texas Equusearch Search & Recover: https://texasequusearch.org/ National Missing and Unidentified Persons System: https://namus.nij.ojp.gov/ Project Cold Case: http://projectcoldcase.org Charlie Shunick: Charlie's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/grrrlcharlie Shunick Missing Persons on TikTok: http://www.tiktok.com/shunickmissingpersons Shunick Missing Persons on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/shunickmissingpersons For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: domestic violence, family violence, child-to-caregiver violence, sibling abuse, cultic abuse, religious abuse, abortion, and mental illness. Mary Garden is a mother, educator, journalist, author, survivor, and advocate from New Zealand. She was born into a family with a great deal of history and many layers of generational trauma that normalized abusive behavior from as early as she can remember. However, it wasn’t until escaping her family home, eventually forging her own family, and healing through writing and speaking, that Mary truly began to understand the impact of her journey. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for Mary’s advocacy, openness, and grace while discussing the ongoing tragedy of familial and sibling abuse. Mary’s website: https://www.marygarden.com.au/ Mary’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/garden.mary My Father’s Suitcase: A story of family secrets, abuse & betrayal - and breaking freehttps://www.marygarden.com.au/deliveriesFor additional resources & a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: stalking, emotional abuse, mental abuse, suicidal ideation, sexual assault, and rape.Susanne Gold-Smith is a mother, creative, advocate, and survivor from New York. Her ability to transcend tragedy and prevail after heartache are defining characteristics apparent in each of her endeavors. However, her personal journey took a dark turn after she was allegedly stalked and sexually assaulted by a private investigator. The event would launch her down a precarious legal path and an onslaught of efforts to seek justice. All that continues to come next in Susanne’s battle is a testament not only to her personal strength, but also to what the criminal justice system requires of victims. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for her time, energy, and the advocacy she is curating by sharing and bringing awareness today.Susanne's website: https://www.susannegoldsmith.com/Not This Time by Susanne Gold-Smith: https://youtu.be/e0trndqFhRI?feature=sharedThe Safe Center: https://www.tscli.org/For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: stalking, emotional and mental abuse, suicidal ideation, sexual assault, and rape. Susanne Gold-Smith is a mother, creative, advocate, and survivor from New York. Her ability to transcend tragedy and prevail after heartache are defining characteristics apparent in each of her endeavors. However, her personal journey took a dark turn after she was allegedly stalked and sexually assaulted by a private investigator. The event would launch her down a precarious legal path and an onslaught of efforts to seek justice. All that continues to come next in Susanne’s battle is a testament not only to her personal strength, but also to what the criminal justice system requires of victims. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for her time, energy, and the advocacy she is curating by sharing and bringing awareness today. Susanne's website: https://www.susannegoldsmith.com/ The Safe Center: https://www.tscli.org/ For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: child-to-parent violence, sibling abuse, sexual assault, childhood sexual assault, and suicidal ideation. As shared in Part One of his updates, John-Michael Lander is a former Olympic-bound diver, actor, author, speaker, and advocate. His words and efforts have been seen everywhere from TIME magazine to the TED Talk stage; he has entitled his experiences of sexual abuse and trafficking “An Athlete’s Silence.” By sharing his story on What Came Next Episode 22 entitled An Athlete’s Silence and elsewhere, his goal is to bring awareness to predatory practices in the athletic and education worlds, as well as to change the way society receives sexual abuse victims. I am so honored he joined me AGAIN today to discuss updates in his journey. He also had the beautiful idea of flipping the script and host-swapping with Amy B. Chesler for this second part of these two episodes. The Broken Cycle Media deeply appreciates John-Michael’s time, dedication to his advocacy, and for the creativity he is bringing to these episodes. John-Michael Lander: An Athlete’s Silence: https://anathletessilence.com/ John-Michael’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnmichaellander WCN Episode 22 [John-Michael Lander] An Athlete’s Silence: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-came-next/id1674051643?i=1000619765637 [Tabatha Ross-Brown] Believed Instead of Blamed: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-came-next/id1674051643?i=1000655144155 Amy B. Chesler: Keep Jesse Winnick in Prison: https://change.org/KEEPJESSEWINNICKINPRISON Working for Justice: One Family’s Tale of Murder, Betrayal, & Healing https://amzn.to/42adAo7 Something Was Wrong Season 7: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/2dec880d-db88-4156-aa12-4f82dc496422/episodes/adb93563-71ee-484a-82a8-b74b74aec0c7/something-was-wrong-s7-e1-extreme-anger?ref=dm_sh_BeYRh06neVQMkqxYAAAP0lFnU Amy’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/amybchesler Free + Confidential resources: somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Episode *Content warning: extortion, sextortion, sexual extortion, sexual abuse, sexual assault, trafficking, sex trafficking, self-harm, suicidal ideation, and suicide.John-Michael Lander is a former Olympic-bound diver, actor, author, speaker, and advocate. His words and efforts have been seen everywhere from TIME magazine to the TED Talk stage; he has entitled his experiences of sexual abuse and trafficking “An Athlete’s Silence.” By sharing his story on What Came Next Episode 22 entitled An Athlete’s Silence and elsewhere, his goal is to bring awareness to predatory practices in the athletic and education worlds, as well as to change the way society receives sexual abuse victims. I am so honored he joined me again today to discuss updates in his journey. He also had the beautiful idea of flipping the script and host-swapping for the second part of the next two episodes. The Broken Cycle Media deeply appreciates John-Michael’s time, dedication to advocacy, and for the creativity he is bringing to the next couple episodes.Resources:U.S. Sextortion Laws by State: https://www.bark.us/blog/sextortion-laws/New Jersey Coalition Against Human Trafficking: https://www.safernj.org/Sources:Gavin’s Law. (n.d.). South Carolina Department of Education. Retrieved July 6, 2024, from https://ed.sc.gov/newsroom/strategic-engagement/gavins-law/John-Michael Lander:An Athlete’s Silence: https://anathletessilence.com/John-Michael’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnmichaellanderWCN Episode 22 [John-Michael Lander] An Athlete’s Silence: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-came-next/id1674051643?i=1000619765637

Content Warning: emotional, mental, and physical abuse, narcissistic abuse, and mental illness. Vanessa Reiser is a licensed social worker, therapist, and an abuse survivor from New York. Her personal and professional histories have been deeply varied, but what remains to be constant are her tenacity and strength. She has reinvented herself and her path several times, but most especially after escaping an abusive relationship in 2020. Amidst all that came next for her, Vanessa has harnessed the media in all facets to curate healing and offer support to other survivors. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely thankful Vanessa was willing to share with us what she could about her transformative journey and all the awareness that’s come from it. Sources: VanDerBell, B. (2022, March). How Common is Narcissistic Abuse in the United States? Pysch Central. https://psychcentral.com/health/how-common-is-narcissistic-abuse-in-the-united-states#prevalence Resources: Tell A Therapist: https://tellatherapist.net/ Vanessa’s book: https://amzn.to/3VUkiwY Vanessa’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/vanessareiserlcsw Vanessa's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@vanessareiser Narcissistic Abuse Run: https://narcissisticabuserun.com/ National Domestic Violence Hotline: https://www.thehotline.org/

Content Warning: sexual assault, rape, violence, brutality, murder, and serial murder. Holly K. Dunn is an author, speaker, non-profit founder, and the sole survivor of a serial killer. As Holly began her junior year of college, she and her boyfriend Chris were attacked not far from Chris’s fraternity party by a murderer who was dubbed The Railroad Killer. In the years that came next, Holly faced every facet of the criminal justice system, as well as her own grief journey, with immense grace. Since her attack and Chris’s murder in 1997, Holly also began her own non-profit called Holly’s House, released her book entitled Sole Survivor, and continues to advocate deeply for survivors across her state and the nation. The Broken Cycle Media team is immensely grateful for Holly’s undying dedication to advocacy and carrying on Chris’s memory. Resources: Holly’s House: https://www.hollyshouse.org/ Holly K. Dunn: Holly’s website: http://www.hollykdunn.com/ Holly’s book, Sole Survivor: http://www.hollykdunn.com/sole-survivor/ Holly’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hollykdunn Holly’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hollykdunn/ For more related non-profit organizations, visit: http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: sexual assault, rape, child sexual abuse, nonconsensual pornography, and suicidal ideation. Season 11, Episode 11 of Something Was Wrong entitled [Dara] Very Sorry, first aired on February 23rd, 2022. The episode poignantly shared Dara’s account of a sexual assault she experienced while on her Spring Break Senior trip. However, her heartache did not end there though. Years later, after Dara had become a mother and began to cultivate her own healing journey, her sister experienced a similar trauma. From that moment on, Dara was compelled to share their stories in hopes of changing the criminal justice landscape for other survivors. Although Something Was Wrong was the first public space she shared, her efforts have not slowed down at all. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful for Dara’s time, energy, legislative efforts, and for sharing with our audience all that’s come next in her battle to change the statute of limitations for Indiana survivors of sexual assault. SWW S11 E11 [Dara] Very Sorry: https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-dara-very-sorry/ Change the statute of limitations for sexual assault Petition: https://chng.it/YqjgsGWL2b Senate Bill 151 via Indiana Gov’t Website https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2024/bills/senate/151/details Indiana Coalition to End Sexual Assault & Human Trafficking: https://icesaht.org/ National Sexual Assault Hotline: https://www.rainn.org/resources Suicide & Crisis Hotline: https://988lifeline.org/ For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations, please visit: http://www.somethingwas.wrong.com/resources

Content warning: suicidal ideation, suicide, substance abuse, substance use disorder, violence, brutality, institutional abuse, child abuse, physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse, cults, kidnapping, and the troubled teen industry. As shared in Part 1 of his story, Matt Cohn is a business professional and musician from Los Angeles, California. His personal history with What Came Next host, Amy, begins in the early 2000s when they were connected through mutual friends. At the time, Matt had just been released from the troubled teen industry, and shared very little of his experiences of abuse. In fact, it wasn't until he watched the 2024 Netflix documentary, The Program: Cons, Cults, and Kidnapping, that he was confronted with the extent of all of the horrors he had seen and faced. Admittedly, it was a validating, eye opening experience for him to watch the documentary. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for his candidness today, as well as all of his efforts he's making to change the troubled teen industry. The Program: Cons, Cults, & Kidnapping: https://www.netflix.com/title/81579761 The Public Health Post on the TTI: https://publichealthpost.org/mental-behavioral-health/troubled-teen-industry/ Research & Articles on the TTI via Unsilenced: https://www.unsilenced.org/research/ National Youth Rights Association on the TTI: https://www.youthrights.org/issues/medical-autonomy/the-troubled-teen-industry/ Government Accountability Office on 'Residential Programs:' https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-08-713t American Bar Association: Five Facts About TTI https://www.americanbar.org/groups/litigation/resources/newsletters/childrens-rights/five-facts-about-troubled-teen-industry/ Senate Hearing on TTI: https://imprintnews.org/top-stories/senate-investigation-slams-residential-treatment-centers-for-children-as-warehouses-of-neglect/250056 For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: violence, brutality, institutional abuse, child abuse, physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse, cults, kidnapping, and the troubled teen industry.Matt Cohn is a business professional and musician from Los Angeles, California. His personal history with What Came Next host, Amy, begins in the early 2000s when they were connected through mutual friends. At the time, Matt had just been released from the troubled teen industry, and shared very little of his experiences of abuse. In fact, it wasn't until he watched the 2024 Netflix documentary, The Program: Cons, Cults, and Kidnapping, that he was confronted with the extent of all of the horrors he had seen and faced. Admittedly, it was a validating, eye opening experience for him to watch the documentary. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for his candidness today, as well as all of his efforts he's making to change the troubled teen industry.The Program: Cons, Cults, & Kidnapping:https://www.netflix.com/title/81579761The Public Health Post on the TTI:https://publichealthpost.org/mental-behavioral-health/troubled-teen-industry/Research & Articles on the TTI via Unsilenced:https://www.unsilenced.org/research/National Youth Rights Association on the TTI:https://www.youthrights.org/issues/medical-autonomy/the-troubled-teen-industry/For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: child abuse, sexual assault, medical abuse, factitious disorder, factitious disorder imposed on another, and munchausen by proxy. Andrea Dunlop is an author, podcaster, and victim advocate from Seattle, Washington. Although her career began in the fictional literary world, Andrea found herself compelled to share her family's experiences, adjacent to the novel she was writing that discussed the disorder Munchausen by proxy. Andrea also chose to share her story via her podcast, Nobody Should Believe Me, which has gone on to spawn four powerful seasons surrounding the often misrepresented topic, Factitious disorder imposed on another. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful that Andrea is joining us to share her knowledge, expertise, and about her own personal journey. Andrea's website: https://www.andreadunlop.net/ Andrea's books: https://www.andreadunlop.net/books Nobody Should Believe Me podcast: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/ Munchausen Support website: https://www.munchausensupport.com/ Marc Feldman's books: https://www.munchausen.com/books/ For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations, please visit: somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: mental illness, animal abuse, animal cruelty, violence, domestic violence, and murder.As shared in Part 1 of his story, Eric Johnson is a security professional, author, co-victim of murder, and victim advocate from Michigan. He launched himself towards a career designed to protect and serve the safety of consumers at a very young age. However, his career in victim advocacy would begin after losing his father Bill and Bill’s beloved dog to domestic violence in 2021. What came next in terms of the legal system and in terms of his healing is a testament to Eric’s strength and fortitude, and the Broken cycle Media team is immensely grateful he was willing to share his time and perspective with us this week.This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Bill Johnson.Eric's Linktree:https://linktr.ee/ericjauthorEric's Book, My Father's Story: The Murder of the Best Man I've Ever Known:https://amzn.to/3K4z26PEric’s Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/ericjauthor1Mark Manson's Author Page:https://www.amazon.com/stores/Mark-Manson/author/B00BIJOMOCFor a list of related non-profit organizations & resources, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: mental illness, animal abuse, animal cruelty, violence, domestic violence, and murder.Eric Johnson is a security professional, author, co-victim of murder, and victim advocate from Michigan. He launched himself towards a career designed to protect and serve the safety of consumers at a very young age. However, his career in victim advocacy would begin after losing his father Bill (and Bill’s beloved dog) to domestic violence in 2021. What came next in terms of the legal system and in terms of his healing is a testament to Eric’s immense strength and fortitude, and the Broken cycle Media team is immensely grateful he was willing to share his time and perspective with us this week.This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Bill Johnson.Eric's Linktree:https://linktr.ee/ericjauthorEric's Book, My Father's Story: The Murder of the Best Man I've Ever Known:https://amzn.to/3K4z26P Eric’s Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/ericjauthor1For a list of related non-profit organizations & resources, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: domestic violence, domestic abuse, physical, verbal, mental, and emotional abuse, child-to-parent violence, child-to-family violence, sibling abuse, elder abuse, intrafamilial abuse, murder, and familicide. Tabatha Ross-Brown is a Michigan familywoman, certified mental health support specialist, victim advocate, and founder of the non-profit organization Parent Real Talk. After providing her services to parents-in-need, Tabatha came to realize that America severely lacked awareness and available resources for families experiencing violence or abuse by a child-age perpetrator. She set out on a mission geared towards awareness, treatment, and prevention of child-to-family - and more specifically child-to-caregiver - violence. Her efforts have included the establishment of the very first American-based child-to-parent violence Awareness Day in several counties in Michigan, and her goal is to establish a nationwide awareness day. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for this advocate interview with Tabatha, as well as all of her time, expertise, and related work. Sources:United Kingdom Law: United Kingdom Domestic Abuse Statutory GuidanceFlorida 2017 Legislation: Support for Parental Victims of Child Domestic ViolenceDanger assessment: https://www.dangerassessment.org/uploads/DA_NewScoring_2019.pdf (CPVA adult and minor child danger assessment attached)Roundtable Discussion YouTube video: https://youtu.be/p6DAO2wAztA?si=jSTxydjz8ImRZDblBreakaway Videos: Escape From Clothing Grab, Escape From A Bear Hug, Defense Against Punches, Safety StanceResources:Parent Real Talk nonprofit organization: https://www.parentrealtalk.com/PEGS: Parent Education Growth Support: https://www.pegsupport.co.uk/join-in-cpa-awareness-dayRoundtable Discussion Informational Booklet w/ Michigan Commissioner's Recognition: https://www.parentrealtalk.com/cpva2023Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LetsGetRealwithParentTalkInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lets_get_real_with_parent_talk/Trauma Resource Institute: https://www.traumaresourceinstitute.com/crmiCHILL Wellness App: https://www.ichillapp.com/

Episode content warning: cults, cultic behavior, multi-level marketing, MLMs, pyramid schemes, ponzi schemes, white collar crime, scams, and fraud.Roberta Blevins is a mom, business owner, consumer protection & victim advocate, and podcaster from Southern California. She began her professional life as a creative multi-hyphenate who juggled several different jobs and careers to provide for herself and her family. However, when she found out about LuLaRoe (a U.S.-based women's fashion company), she believed it would be the answer to her desire for simplification and success. Within a few years though, Roberta would realize - along with many other LuLaRoe business owners - that the company offered a much different reality. As a result, Roberta has gone on to share her experiences in the media - including the documentary LuLaRich, in her hit podcast Life After MLM, as well as in the courtroom for legal purposes. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for Roberta’s advocacy and awareness work, as well as everything she shares with our audience today. Roberta's websitehttps://robertablevins.com/Roberta’s Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/therealrobertablevinsLife After MLMhttp://lifeaftermlmpod.comWA Office of Attorney General on LuLaRoe Settlementhttps://www.atg.wa.gov/news/news-releases/lularoe-pay-475-million-resolve-ag-ferguson-s-lawsuit-over-pyramid-schemeAmazon's LuLaRichhttps://www.amazon.com/LuLaRich-Season-1/dp/B09CFXPNSXFTC on MLM & Pyramid Scheme Profitshttps://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00004%C2%A0/00004-57286.pdfIf you believe you or a loved one have been a victim of financial fraud or unethical business practices, please visit the FTC website at https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/ to make a claim. For a list of other non-profit organizations and resources, please visit http://www/somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: substance use disorder, substance abuse, gun violence, murder, and unsolved murder. Madison McGhee is a producer, documentarian, podcaster, and co-victim of murder from West Virginia. After learning about her father’s unsolved murder in her teen years, Madison devoted herself and her future career to bringing awareness about her father’s long-since cold case. In her hit podcast, Ice Cold Case, she highlights her own investigation in to her father’s twenty-two year old murder and all that continues to come next in her journey. The Broken Cycle Media team is honored to have this discussion with Madison about the power of her work and how she’s harnessed the media to obtain what justice may be still available for her and her father. Madison's Links: Ice Cold Case http://www.icecoldcase.com Madison's Website https://www.madison-mcghee.com/ Madison's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/madison_mcghee/ Sources: The Crisis of Cold Cases. (2019, July 10). U.S. Department of Justice. https://www.ojp.gov/archives/ojp-blogs/2019/crisis-cold-cases Li, W., & Lartey, J. (2022, January 12). As Murders Spiked, Police Solved About Half in 2020. The Marshall Project. https://www.themarshallproject.org/2022/01/12/as-murders-spiked-police-solved-about-half-in-2020 Resources: For a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: substance abuse, substance use disorder, illegal commerce, physical, sexual, and emotional abuse, physical and sexual violence, torture, abduction, and trafficking. Brandon Andres Green is a father, familyman, survivor of abduction, trafficking, and torture, and immensely strong victim advocate. He faced trauma as a youth in Oklahoma, and recognizes those events as pivotal points in his personal journey. By the time he was eighteen, he had been launched down a path rife with dangerous, illegal activities. But just weeks after graduating high school, on Independence Day 2003, his freedom from a life of physical pain would be stolen from him forever. Still, Brandon remains to be a beacon of light, love, and hope for everyone who hears his story. The Broken Cycle Media team is honored he was willing to share some of his journey and what came next for him with us today. Sources: Subterranean Psychonaut by This Land Press https://thislandpress.com/2013/07/28/subterranean-psychonaut/ House Approves Updated Language in Statutes Related to Child Sex Trafficking https://www.okhouse.gov/posts/news-20240306_1 Resources: For a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: physical, emotional, and mental abuse, addiction disorder, substance abuse, substance use disorder, rape, statutory rape, child abuse, sexual abuse, child sexual abuse, extrafamilial child sexual abuse, serial sexual abuse, suicidal ideation, and suicide.As shared in Part 1 of his story, Seth Gehle is a father, veteran, speaker, and victim advocate from Ohio. Seth faced ongoing sexual abuse in his youth, and recently began to share about his experiences and all that came next legally and personally. Seth’s mission is to use his story to bring awareness to society and offer hope to other survivors, and we are so grateful he is here to do so with us, especially considering April is Sexual Assault Awareness Month.Resources:Seth’s book, Strength beyond the Shadows:https://amzn.to/4275Fv0If you suspect someone in your life has been sexually assaulted or abused, please contact your nearest law enforcement office or the National Sexual Assault Hotline:https://www.rainn.org/resourcesFor more resources and a list of non-profit organizations that can help, please visit:http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesSources:Seth Interviews the Officer that Helped Him:https://youtu.be/zdjTTvBb2rY?si=ClzXV3-VCtS61EwyChild Sexual Abuse/Violence Prevention:https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/childsexualabuse/fastfact.htmlThe incidence and prevalence of intrafamilial and extrafamilial sexual abuse of female children: A Study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6605793/Characteristics of Extrafamilial & Intrafamilail Child Sexual Abuse: A Studyhttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9777261/

Content Warning: gun violence, child abuse, sexual abuse, childhood sexual abuse, intrafamilial child sexual abuse, abduction, kidnapping, attempted kidnapping, suicidal ideation, and suicide. Alexis Garcia is a mother, survivor, and victim advocate from Chicago. This is the first time she has ever shared on a public platform about the abuse she faced when she was a child. Her healing journey was extensive and seemingly never-ending, as she was often met with disbelief. However, after years, she was able to see her abuser put behind bars. Still, her healing and advocacy continues as she works to break cycles in her own family. Alexis’s courage and strength amidst all that came next for her are a true example of the power of resilience. Resources: Something Was Wrong Resources National Sexual Assault Hotline Coping with the Shock of Intrafamilial Abuse Preventive Measures Against Intrafamilial Child Sexual Abuse Sources: Characteristics of intrafamilial and extrafamilial child sexual abuse

Content Warning: stalking, assault, sexual assault, serial sexual assault, rape, serial rape, abduction, kidnapping, home invasion, armed assault, gun violence, and criminal threats. As shared in Part 1 of her story, Danielle Leukam is a mother, nurse, author, survivor, speaker, and victim advocate from Minnesota. In November of 2018 her entire life changed forever after becoming a victim of home invasion and sexual assault. The journey to find and convict her rapist was long and arduous, but Danielle leaned on the community and professionals around her to prevail. She continues to share all that comes next in her journey and fight for justice in hopes of bringing awareness and inspiring other survivors. Danielle's website https://www.danielleleukam.com/ Danielle's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/danielleleukam/ Danielle's Amazon Author page WISH: We Inspire Survivor Healing https://www.weinspiresurvivorhealing.com/ For a list of related non-profit organizations and resources, please visit somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: stalking, assault, sexual assault, serial sexual assault, serial rape, abduction, kidnapping, home invasion, armed assault, gun violence, and criminal threats. Danielle Leukam is a mother, nurse, author, survivor, speaker, and victim advocate from Minnesota. In November of 2018 her entire life changed forever after becoming a victim of home invasion and sexual assault. The journey to find and convict her rapist was long and arduous, but Danielle leaned on the community and professionals around her to prevail. She continues to share all that comes next in her journey and fight for justice in hopes of bringing awareness and inspiring other survivors. Danielle's website https://www.danielleleukam.com/ Danielle's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/danielleleukam/ Danielle's Amazon Author page For a list of related non-profit organizations and resources, please visit somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: suicidal ideation, love fraud, financial fraud, domestic violence, physical abuse, and stalking. As shared in Part One of Donna Hayes story, Donna is a mother, actress, singer, businesswoman, & author. Donna shares her experiences of domestic violence, divorce, and the various events that she believes led her to be a victim of love and financial fraud. The Broken Cycle Media team is grateful that Donna was willing to share all that came next for her amidst her legal battle, as well as her journey sharing via cabaret show, book, podcast, television, and more. Donna’s Websites Donna-Hayes.com Distinguishedcoaching.com Donna’s Instagram https://www.instagram.com/iamdonna_hayes/ Donna’s Facebook https://www.facebook.com/donna.hayes.925 These Broken Roads: Scammed & Vindicated, One Woman’s Story https://amzn.to/3IfQJ2x Gotham Writing Classes https://www.writingclasses.com/ Sibylline Press https://sibyllinepress.com/donna-marie-hayes/ New FTC Data Shows Consumers Reported Losing Nearly 8.8 Billion in 2022 Scams https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/02/new-ftc-data-show-consumers-reported-losing-nearly-88-billion-scams-2022 Bureau of Justice Statistics on Financial Fraud https://bjs.ojp.gov/taxonomy/term/financial-fraud For additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: body shaming, domestic violence, physical abuse, verbal abuse, stalking, love fraud, and financial fraud.Donna Hayes is a mother, actress, singer, author & businesswoman from Jamaica. In the following two episodes, she shares her experiences of domestic violence, divorce, and the various events that she believes led her to be a victim of love and financial fraud. The Broken Cycle Media team is grateful that Donna was willing to share all that came next for her amidst her legal battle, as well as her journey sharing about her trauma via cabaret show, book, podcast, television, and more.Donna’s WebsitesDonna-Hayes.comDistinguishedcoaching.comDonna’s Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/iamdonna_hayes/Donna’s Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/donna.hayes.925These Broken Roads: Scammed & Vindicated, One Woman’s Storyhttps://amzn.to/3IfQJ2xFor additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: sexual, physical and emotional violence involving children, childhood abuse, sexual abuse of a child, rape, statutory rape, child sex abuse materials, pedophilia, human trafficking, suicidal ideation, and suicide. As shared in Part 1 of the Something Was Wrong Season 15 Episode 5 Updates, Diana's episode,The Devil in Disguise, was released on March 2nd, 2023. In the episode, Diana (a mother, medical professional, sister, and friend to many) bravely shares about her relationship with the monster who she would eventually find out had sexually abused her daughter and niece. The episode also highlights some of what came next for Diana after the FBI unearthed the truth about her former partner's abusive behavior and trafficking attempts. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful that Diana was willing to join us today to share more about her journey and the recent justice she and some of his other victims have been given. Please note pseudonyms are used in this episode to protect guests anonymity. This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Diana's sister, Anne Marie.SWW S15 E5 [Diana] The Devil in Disguisehttps://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-diana-the-devil-in-disguise/RAINN Networkhttp://www.rainn.orgRAINN Statistics on Childhood Sexual Abusehttps://www.rainn.org/statistics/children-and-teensUnited States Sentencing Commission. (2021). Federal Sentencing of child Pornography: Production Offenses. In United States Sentencing Commission. Retrieved June 25, 2024, from https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/research-publications/2021/20211013_Production-CP.pdfQuick Facts: Child Pornography Offenders. (2023). United States Sentencing Commission. Retrieved June 25, 2024, from https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/quick-facts/Child_Pornography_FY22.pdfFor additional resources, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you to Factor for sponsoring this episode. Head to factormeals.com/wcn50 and use code WCN50 to get 50% off your order.

*Content warning: sexual, physical and emotional violence involving children, childhood abuse, sexual abuse of a child, rape, statutory rape, child sex abuse materials, pedophilia, human trafficking, suicidal ideation, and suicide. Season 15, Episode 5 of Something Was Wrong, [Diana] The Devil in Disguise was released on March 2nd, 2023. In the episode, Diana (mother, medical professional, sister, and friend to many) bravely shares about her relationship with the man who she would eventually find out had sexually abused her daughter and niece. The episode also highlights some of what came next for Diana after the FBI unearthed the truth about her former partner’s abusive behavior and trafficking attempts. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply grateful that Diana was willing to join us today to share more about her journey, and the recent justice she and all of his other victims have been given. Please note, pseudonyms are used in this episode to protect guests’ anonymity. This episode is in loving memory of Diana's sister, Anne Marie. Something Was Wrong S15 E5 [Diana] The Devil in Disguisehttps://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-diana-the-devil-in-disguise/For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you again to Babbel for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget our special, limited time deal for our listeners. Right now get 50% off a ONE-TIME PAYMENT FOR ALIFETIME Babbel subscription - but only for our listeners - at Babbel.com/WCN. Rules and restrictions may apply.

*Content warning: hate crimes, bigotry, racism, gun violence, child loss, parent loss, and mass murder.Mindy Corporon is a speaker, author, founder, and CEO from Oklahoma. She attributes her personal and professional success to her loving, tight-knit upbringing. However, everything she knew to be true would be deeply challenged on April 13th, 2014, when her father and son were murdered in a hate crime. Mindy has allowed her faith and her unending fortitude born from her family, to withstand all that came next for them. This includes a legal battle to convict their murderer, the publication of her memoir, Healing a Shattered Soul, the creation of a foundation, and the unending mission to inspire others wading through the throes of grief. The Broken Cycle media team is very grateful Mindy is sharing her journey with us today, as well as for her continued advocacy work. I am also personally grateful for her sisterhood in survivorship, as we are lifelong members of the same sorority.This episode is dedicated in loving memory to Reat Underwood, Dr. William Lewis Corporon, & Terri LaManno.Mindy's websitehttps://www.mindycorporon.com/Healing a Shattered Soul by Mindy Corporonhttps://www.mindycorporon.com/healing-a-shattered-soul/Real Grief, Real Healing with Mindyhttps://www.mindycorporon.com/real-grief-real-healing/Seven Days: Make a Ripple, Change the Worldhttps://sevendays.org/our-story/the-rippleLaws Against Hate Crimes Don’t Exist in Kansashttps://www.ksnt.com/news/laws-against-hate-crimes-dont-exist-in-kansas/Hate Crime Laws and Policieshttps://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/laws-and-policiesFBI 2014 Hate Crime Statisticshttps://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-2014-hate-crime-statisticsFBI 2022 Hate Crime Statisticshttps://www.justice.gov/crs/highlights/2022-hate-crime-statisticsUSA Today on Hate Crimes Hit Record Levelshttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/01/05/hate-crimes-hit-record-levels-in-2023-why-2024-could-be-even-worse/72118808007/How to Report a Hate Crimehttps://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/report-a-hate-crimeHate Crime Preventionhttps://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/hate-crimes-preventionFor additional resources or a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: sexual assault, childhood abuse, trauma, true crime, and murder.This week we're taking a break from our regularly-scheduled survivor interviews to answer listeners' questions. Thank you so much for the continuous support of What Came Next, the survivors we interview, and the brands that sponsor us. Please also consider re-listening to (or sharing) some of your favorite episodes until next week!Something Was Wrong/What Came Next submissionshttps://somethingwaswrong.com/submissions/What Came Next Podcast Instagramhttp://www.instagram.com/whatcamenext_podcast[John-Michael Lander] An Athlete's Silencehttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-came-next/id1674051643?i=1000619765637[Kelly Gee] What Happens Next // Part 2https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kelly-gee-what-happens-next-part-2/id1674051643?i=1000641401487End Violence Against Women Internationalhttps://evawintl.org/For additional resources and a list of non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: domestic violence, capital punishment, abduction, rape, and murder. Stacie McBride-Cox is a mother, sister, educator, and former lawyer. Her faith and fortitude were deeply tested in 1995, after the abduction and murder of her beloved sister, Tracie. Since then, The McBride family’s efforts for awareness have been seen on Good Morning America, Inside Edition, The 1990’s: The Deadliest Decade, and more. Stacie’s poise, power, & perspective amidst all that came next for her family is truly unrivaled, and a testament to the role model she had in her big sister, Tracie. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful that Stacie was willing to share her nearly thirty-year journey of heartache and healing with us today. Stacie’s Instagram http://www.instagram.com/staciemcbridecox Tracie Joy McBride Scholarship Fund: http://www.tjmscholarshipfund.com Gold Star Families: https://www.army.mil/goldstar/ The 1990’s: The Deadliest Decade: https://www.discoveryplus.com/show/1990s-the-deadliest-decade For further resources and a list of non-profit organizations that can help, visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: cyberstalking, stalking, death threats, and abduction.Lenora Claire is a survivor, advocate, producer, private investigator, and consultant from Los Angeles, California. Her career in entertainment and the arts skyrocketed in the early 2000’s, but were largely derailed when she began to face stalking at the hands of a perpetrator that also stalks several celebrities. Her experiences in the legal system, within the media, and in helping other survivors since have propelled her to redefine herself several times over. As a result, she serves the survivor community deeply in many different ways, no matter what continues to come next in her journey, and we are so honored she is sharing a portion of it all with us today. Lenora Clairehttps://www.lenoraclairellc.com/Lenora's Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/lenoraclaireSpecial K Investigationshttps://www.specialkpi.com/Sparchttps://www.stalkingawareness.org/For more resources or a list of non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: depression, suicidal ideation, suicide, sexual assault, rape, and sexual abuse. As he shared in 'Against Big Odds // Part One,' Kelly Gee is a former professional hockey player and coach, and the current powerhouse executive director of the non profit organization Survivors for Change. Kelly has always been driven to make an impact, but it wasn't until surviving ongoing sexual abuse at the hands of his former coach that he found his true calling: being an inspiration and motivator for survivors around the world. He hopes to utilize all that continues to come next for him in his journey for justice and peace to change present and future resources and support for all victims. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for all of Kelly’s advocacy and continued efforts for survivors, as well as for this conversation. Survivors for Change https://www.survivorsforchange.org/ Survivors for Change Instagram https://www.instagram.com/weares4c/ Survivor for Change Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheS4C/ The Incubation of Silence https://vimeo.com/549070172?share=copy The Army of Survivors https://thearmyofsurvivors.org/ Child USA https://childusa.org/ “I Was One of Them:’ Kelly Gee Speaks Out via The Athletic https://theathletic.com/1956786/2020/07/28/i-was-one-of-them-survivor-of-alleged-sexual-abuse-by-hockey-coach-speaks-out/ Additional help and resources are available 24 hours a day at the National Sexual Assault Hotline, which can be reached at 1 800 656 4673 and the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline at 988. You are not alone. For more resources, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: depression, suicidal ideation, substance use disorder, sexual assault, rape, and sexual abuse.Kelly Gee is a former professional hockey player and coach and the current executive director of the non profit organization Survivors for Change. Kelly has always been driven to make an impact, but it wasn't until surviving sexual abuse at the hands of his former coach that he found his true calling: being an inspiration and motivator for survivors around the world. He hopes to utilize all that continues to come next for him in his journey for justice and peace to change, present and future resources and support for all victims. Survivors for Changehttps://www.survivorsforchange.org/Survivors for Change Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/weares4c/“I Was One of Them:’ Kelly Gee Speaks Out via The Athletichttps://theathletic.com/1956786/2020/07/28/i-was-one-of-them-survivor-of-alleged-sexual-abuse-by-hockey-coach-speaks-out/The Incubation of Silencehttps://vimeo.com/549070172?share=copyTrauma-Informed Care in Behavioral Health Services: Understanding the Impact of Trauma https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK207191/Additional help and resources are available 24 hours a day at the National Sexual Assault Hotline, which can be reached at 1 800 656 4673 and the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline at 988. You are not alone.For more resources, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: gun violence, homicide, murder, and substance abuse.Evin and Melissa Marshall shared about the heartbreaking loss of Evin's father, Richard, in part one of their story. The Broken Cycle media team is extremely grateful they were willing to share more of their journey, healing, and the trauma that they continue to sift through in the wake of Richard's absence.This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Richard Donald Marshall. Food For Lane Countyhttps://www.foodforlanecounty.org/For additional resources and a list of non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: gun violence, homicide, murder, and substance abuse.Melissa and Evin Marshall's lives changed forever in late February of 2021. The murder of Evin's beloved father, Richard Donald Marshall, deeply impacted people across the country. Evan and Melissa's consequent heartbreak didn't end there though, and neither has their tenacity. Relatedly, it means so much that they were willing to discuss their journey, and all that ensued afterwards with us on What Came next.This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Richard Donald Marshall. Food For Lane Countyhttps://www.foodforlanecounty.org/For additional resources and a list of non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: abuse, child abuse, gun violence, grief, loss, death, and murder. Chaplain Peggy has been a victim and patient advocate for over twenty years. She found her calling after America faced mass tragedy on September 11th 2001. After that day, she felt forced to answer a deeper call to serve her community, especially for those members in greater need. She also is co-host on the impactful podcast, Near Death, with Nikki Boyer, on which she shares more about her grief work. This conversation with Chaplain Peggy is deeply appreciated. This is also the very first interview we have conducted with an advocate that does not identify as a victim herself, but who has brought much healing and support to the victim community. We are so very grateful for her work with victims and other patients alike, as well as this candid conversation about the intricacies of her experiences as a chaplain in the most populous county in the United States.Near Death podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/near-death/id1689779166Peggy's Instagramhttp://www.instagram.com/chaplainpeggyFor more resources and a list of non-profit organizations, please visit:http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: suicidal ideation, stalking, cyberstalking, arson, death threats, violent threats.As shared in Part One of Vanessa V.'s story, we first heard from her on Discovery’s Unraveled. However, her journey as a stalking victim started nearly two decades before her media-based advocacy journey began. Over those two decades, Vanessa experienced escalating, cyclical cyberstalking that effected all facets of her life. Still, Vanessa’s tenacity and strength shines through, as she continues to reinvent herself amidst all that comes next in her battle to be recognized and to receive justice. Unraveled: The Stalker's Web Podcasthttps://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/podcasts/unraveled-the-stalkers-webN.Y. Post Article on Vanessa’s Experienceshttps://nypost.com/2021/06/13/women-call-out-staten-island-cyber-stalker-for-revenge-porn/For more resources, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: suicidal ideation, stalking, cyberstalking, arson, death threats, violent threats, and murder. We first heard Vanessa V.‘s story on Discovery’s Unraveled. However, her journey as a stalking victim started nearly two decades before her media-based advocacy journey began. Over those two decades, Vanessa experienced escalating, cyclical cyberstalking that effected all facets of her life. Still, Vanessa’s tenacity and strength shines through, as she continues to reinvent herself amidst all that comes next in her battle to be recognized and to receive justice. Unraveled: The Stalker's Web https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/podcasts/unraveled-the-stalkers-web For additional resources and a list of non-profit organizations that can help, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: substance use disorder, substance abuse, sex work, statutory rape, child abuse, sexual abuse, rape, serial rape, murder, and serial murder.Denise Winters is a mother, author, YouTuber, and victim advocate from Milwaukee, Wisconsin. After a very tumultuous childhood, Denise’s heartache did not stop. She was brutally attacked and raped by a man in her neighborhood in her early twenties. For years, she attempted to report her assault via many different avenues, especially when she realized her attacker was a serial killer haunting Milwaukee and surrounding areas over the span of two decades. Despite never receiving personal justice, she has continued to speak out on behalf of the North Side Strangler’s other victims, and to end the silence she was met with for years. She does so via her book, The Untold Story, The One Who Got Away, as well as her YouTube channel, Sip and Speak the Tea with D and D (which also features Danette Ousley, Denise's cousin, who is another What Came Next guest). The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for the advocacy and inspiration Denise has mustered, despite all that came next in her journey.Denise's Instagram:http://www.instagram.com/denisewinters12 The Untold Story: The One Who Got Awayhttps://amzn.to/3RmOkrUSip and Speak the Tea with D & Dhttps://www.youtube.com/@sipandspeaktheteawithdd1509[Danette Ousley] Walk By Faithhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-came-next/id1674051643?i=1000605680032

Content warning: cruelty towards animals, animal abuse, death threats, domestic violence, psychological, emotional, mental, and physical abuse, murder. As shared in last week’s episode and Part 1 of her story, Sarah Manos is a high school educator and victim advocate from Chicago. After escaping a highly abusive relationship and losing her canine companions Kirby and Daisy to her abuser, Sarah has chosen to share her experiences in and out of the legal and criminal justice system to bring awareness to society and hope to other survivors. She also takes to TikTok to bring ultimate awareness to the women of Illinois, building a community of nearly 70,000 people. The Broken Cycle Media team is immensely grateful for all that Sarah does to teach victims different avenues of advocacy and justice. This episode is dedicated to Kirby & Daisy. Please note this episode does mention animal abuse & cruelty towards animals. If you or someone you know are experiencing domestic violence, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources for a list of non-profit organizations that can help. Sarah’s Instagram in honor of Kirby & Daisy https://instagram.com/sarahs_story_official Sarah's TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@sarahs_story Sarah’s Story podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sarahs-story/id1643430859 The National Domestic Violence Hotline https://www.thehotline.org/ Animal Legal Defense Fund https://aldf.org/ Sarah’s Petition https://www.change.org/p/justice-for-kirby-daisy-two-dogs-horrifically-abused-and-killed-by-mathew-berry PETA https://support.peta.org/ The Humane Society/The Anti-Cruelty Society https://anticruelty.org/ Sarah in the Chicago Sun Times https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2021/2/17/22281511/bumble-dogs-killed-sarah-manos-matthew-berry-arlington-heights

Content warning: animal cruelty, animal abuse, domestic violence, psychological, emotional, mental, and physical abuse, stalking, and death threats.Sarah Manos is a high school educator and victim advocate from Chicago. In Part One of her story, Sarah shares how she loses her canine companions Kirby and Daisy to her abuser, and eventually escapes the horrifying relationship. In the wake of her loss, Sarah has chosen to share her experiences in and out of the legal and criminal justice system to bring awareness to society and hope to other survivors. She also takes to TikTok to bring ultimate awareness to the women of Illinois, building a community of nearly 70,000 people. The Broken Cycle Media team is immensely grateful for all that Sarah does to teach victims different avenues of advocacy and justice. This episode is dedicated to Kirby & Daisy. Please note this episode does mention animal abuse & cruelty towards animals.If you or someone you know are experiencing domestic violence, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources for a list of non-profit organizations that can help. Sarah's TikTok in honor of Kirby & Daisyhttps://www.tiktok.com/@sarahs_storySarah’s Instagram in honor of Kirby & Daisyhttps://instagram.com/sarahs_story_officialThe National Domestic Violence Hotlinehttps://www.thehotline.org/Animal Legal Defense Fundhttps://aldf.org/

*Content warning: rape, murder, serial murder. Commissioner Jennifer Morrison has had a long career in public safety and law enforcement. However, her trajectory as an advocate became clearer with the life-altering loss of two dear friends during her formative, college years. It is with this same passion for justice and advocacy that she began a prolific career in public safety, becoming the first female police chief of Colchester County, Vermont and the first female public safety commissioner of the state of Vermont. Her more recent, related efforts in the media are what brought us together though; the Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful she was willing to share all that came next in her journey of advocacy, which includes the creation of her riveting, impactful program, The Hero Maker Podcast.This episode is dedicated to Rachael Raver, Warren Fulton, the seven other lives lost at the hands of their murderer, and the survivors and co-victims effected by these horrific tragedies.The Hero Maker Podcasthttps://www.theheromakerpodcast.com/The Center for Councilhttps://www.centerforcouncil.org/Poynter Institutehttps://www.poynter.org/The Hero Maker Podcast on Xhttp://www.x.com/TheHeroMakerPodAndrea Shreeman on Xhttp://www.x.com//AndreaShreemanThe Hero Maker Podcast on YouTubehttp://www.youtube.com/@TheHeroMakerPodThe Hero Maker Podcast on TikTokhttp://www.tiktok.com/@TheHeroMakerPodThe Hero Maker Podcast on Instagramhttp://www.instagram.com/TheHeroMakerPodPrudent Pictures on Instagram http://www.instagram.com/PrudentPicturesThe Hero Maker Podcast on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/TheHeroMakerPodFor additional resources or related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: harassment, stalking, cyberstalking, murder, and capital murder.Caitlin Mathis is a victim advocate and survivor from Texas. In the summer between graduating high school and entering college, she began a relationship with a man whose future actions would change her life - and a whole town - forever. After consequently navigating the inner workings of the law enforcement and criminal justice systems during her college years, she now shares in the media all that came next in her journey. Caitlin hopes to inspire awareness and change for survivors everywhere, in honor of Jackie Vandagriff and all other victims. We are so grateful for her work and all the good she’s spurred from her heartache.Sources:“Endowment Established in Memory of TWU Student.” TWU, twu.edu/news/2018/endowment-established-in-memory-of-twu-student/#:~:text=Donations%20to%20the%20Jaqueline%20Rae,or%20940%2D898%2D3863@FollowUsLegally Stalking Prevention, Awareness, and Resource Center, www.stalkingawareness.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Campus-Stalking-Fact-Sheet.pdfResources:SPARC: Stalking Prevention, Awareness, & Resource Centerhttps://www.stalkingawareness.org/stalking-awareness-month/Jackie's endowment:https://giving.twu.edu/donor-relations/vandagriff-scholarsFor more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit:http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: divorce, conversion therapy, reorientation therapy, cyberstalking, stalking, fraudulent reporting, emotional and psychological abuse, death threats, and criminal threats. Danny Cords is an organizational psychologist and victim advocate from Seattle. He began harnessing his voice and speaking out for others after leaving conversion therapy in his late teens. But his advocacy mission only intensified after being subjected to years of cyberstalking. He hopes to bring awareness and healing to victims all over the world, as well as legal change too. His related (and unrelated) work and efforts have been featured on the stage, television, radio, podcasts, and more. We are extremely grateful that Danny was willing to share all that came next in his personal, professional, legal, and media journeys. This conversation is even more timely, considering October is Cyberstalking Awareness Month. Danny Cords's website https://www.dannycords.com/ Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency Info on Cyberstalking Awareness Month https://www.cisa.gov/cybersecurity-awareness-month Rand Corporation on Cybersecurity https://www.rand.org/topics/cybersecurity.html Stalking Prevention, Awareness, & Resource Center stalking statistics https://www.stalkingawareness.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/General-Stalking-Infographic.pdf Organization for Social Media Safety https://www.socialmediasafety.org/ End Tab endtab.org The GSBA https://thegsba.org/ Strictly Stalking Podcast https://www.instagram.com/strictlystalkingpod/ For additional resources, please visit: http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: domestic abuse, child abuse, domestic violence, and non-consensual pornography. In Part 2 of Season 14 updates, Kaylan and Melissa continue their conversation regarding life after their season ended, and their continuous child support battle in court with Jake Gravbrot. Kaylan and Melissa also explain, from their perspectives, the nuances of the court system and how the court handles child support cases. The survivors discuss how many more women have come forward explaining their interactions with Gravbrot, and how he is still very active on dating apps and social media. Lastly, Kaylan and Melissa share all they have learned about various forms of abuse, narcissism, life after an abusive relationship, and how much their lives have positively changed since sharing their story on SWW. Season 14 of SWW https://somethingwaswrong.com/14-2/Change.org Hold Jake Accountablehttps://www.change.org/p/seattle-police-department-hold-jake-gravbrot-accountableThe Stranger on Jake Gravbrothttps://www.thestranger.com/cops/2023/01/06/78802686/after-months-spd-finally-responds-to-allegations-of-serial-sexual-assault'Your Pocket Therapist' Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/your_pocket_therapist/For additional resources and support, please visit:http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: domestic abuse, child abuse, domestic violence, and non-consensual pornography. Season Fourteen of Something Was Wrong began airing on October 20th, 2022 and the last episode aired on January 3rd, 2023. The season highlighted the narratives of Kaylan, Melissa, and Sara and their very toxic, abusive relationships with a man named Jake, as well as the abuse their children faced. As the season progressed, it included several accounts from other victims and acquaintances of Jake as well. Jake continued to leverage his professional connections in the media to add validity to his dating presence and in turn, victimized over forty women. On December 13th, 2022, the guests of Season 14 also participated in a SWW Live event on which they discussed the impact of the season & answered some listeners’ questions. One week later, a petition was created to call for Jake to face legal accountability. And despite the fact that less than a year passing since its release, quite a lot has happened. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful for Kaylan, Melissa, and Sara’s involvement, as well as the rest of the guests' of season 14, and the impact their sharing has made. We are also grateful to host this conversation with Kaylan and Melissa about all that’s come next since Season 14 aired. Season 14 of SWW https://somethingwaswrong.com/14-2/ Change.org Hold Jake Accountable https://www.change.org/p/seattle-police-department-hold-jake-gravbrot-accountable The Stranger on Jake Gravbrot https://www.thestranger.com/cops/2023/01/06/78802686/after-months-spd-finally-responds-to-allegations-of-serial-sexual-assault Seattle Times: Seattle police stopped investigating new adult sexual assaults https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/seattle-police-halted-investigating-adult-sexual-assaults-this-year-internal-memo-shows/ Thank you again to THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING for sponsoring this episode! Don't forget to follow THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts, and you can listen to THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING ad free on Wondery Plus. For additional resources and support, please visit: http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: substance use disorder, addiction, suicidal ideation, child abuse, emotional, mental, and environmental abuse. Nicole Bowman is a mother, writer, blogger, and former teacher. She utilizes her degrees in education, childhood development, & English, as well as her active pursuit to be a therapist to create thoughtful, advocacy-based content. Through live stage performances, blogging, poetry, and autobiographical writing, Nicole shares about the nuances of the abuse she faced as a child, as well as her healing process. We are so grateful that she was willing to speak to us today about all that came next for her amidst her journey through motherhood and the process of unparenting herself. Nicole's website https://www.allthethingsmotherish.com/ Nicole's Instagram http://www.instagram.com/allthethingsmotherish Expressing Motherhood https://expressingmotherhood.com/ For additional resources: http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: sexual assault, rape, domestic violence, and murder. Jimanekia Eborn is a survivor, advocate, and mental health professional whose expertise focuses on healing from trauma and sexual assault. Despite experiencing great loss and grief as early as she can remember, she has also always been a loving force to be reckoned with. Thus, she utilizes her own grief and experiences, as well as her status as a co-victim of murder, to advocate for victims from marginalized communities and beyond. We are so grateful she joined us today to share all that has come next for her amidst her professional, personal, legal, and media journeys. Jimanekia’s website https://traumaqueen.love/ Jimanekia’s Podcast, Trauma Queen https://traumaqueen.love/podcast Jimanekia’s Instagram https://instagram.com/jimanekia Jimanekia’s X https://twitter.com/Jimanekia Tending the Garden https://www.tendingthegarden.love/ Lenora Claire Consulting https://www.lenoraclairellc.com/ For additional resources visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources And don’t forget to check out Inhuman Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts!

*Content warning: rape, miscarriage, forced abortion, medical trauma, sex slavery, sexual abuse, sex trafficking, child abuse, childhood sexual assault, child pornograpy, non-consensual pornography, suicidal ideation, attempted suicide Gloria Masters is a former teacher and child & adolescent therapist from Auckland, New Zealand. Over the last several decades and through her incredible professional life, she has worked deeply to change the future for our youth. But it wasn’t until a few years ago that she began dedicating her life to a new mission: using her own horrific, childhood experiences as a trafficked sex slave, and all that came next in her healing journey, to bring awareness and change to the world. We are so grateful for all of Gloria’s efforts and her willingness to share today on What Came Next. Gloria's website https://gloriamasters.com/ Gloria's books https://gloriamasters.com/shop/ Gloria's YouTube Channel, Handing the Shame Back https://www.youtube.com/@handingtheshameback Gloria’s Instagram https://instagram.com/handingtheshameback What is Human Trafficking? https://www.dhs.gov/blue-campaign/what-human-trafficking What is CBT? https://www.apa.org/ptsd-guideline/patients-and-families/cognitive-behavioral Additional resources: http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources And don’t forget to check out Once Upon a Crime on all podcasting platforms!

*Content warning: disordered eating, anorexia, homophobia, severe physical, mental, emotional, financial, and litigative abuse, rape, and domestic violence. Lily Sanders is a dancer, author, actress and advocate with extensive creative and professional resumes. However, it wasn’t until escaping domestic violence that she found her ultimate calling. We are so grateful she was willing to discuss her journey and mission in the media, as well as all that came next for her after freeing herself from extreme physical violence.Thank you, HelloFresh, for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to go to HelloFresh.com/50wcn and use code 50wcn for 50% off plus 15% off the next 2 months!Lily’s websitehttps://lilysanders.live/Lily’s Podcast, Beyond The Current Situationhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-current-situation/id1515225713Lily's Book, Truth to Triumph: A Spiritual Guide to Finding Your Truthhttps://amzn.to/48dcL1wLily’s Instagramhttps://instagram.com/lily_sanders_authorIf you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, or for more resources and info on non-profits, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of drunk driving, reckless driving, medical trauma, & traumatic brain injury. Conor Crippen is a survivor and victim advocate from Ohio. Upon his entrance to college at Loyola University Chicago, Conor studied neuroscience and biology. It would be just under a year into his educational career though that his plans were cut short by a drunk driver. As a result of the accident, he suffered a traumatic brain injury, and began a new life of recovery. We are so grateful that Conor (and his mom Kathy) were willing to join us to talk about all that came next in their journey, as well as the inspiration they hope to spread with their journey. Conor’s website https://www.conorcrippen.com Conor's TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@crippenconor Conor's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/crippenconor/ Just Give Me The Road by Anne Marie Romer https://amzn.to/4860AU4 Gabby Gifford Life-Saving Surgery https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/27/gabrielle-giffords-brain-surgery-technique CBS News on Deborah Zelinsky’s Research https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/chicago/news/brain-glasses-concussion-disability/ For additional resources, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources Thank you to Kitsch for sponsoring this episode! Don’t forget to visit mykitsch.com/WCN for 30% off your next order.

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of underage drinking, drug use, overdose, respite care, disordered eating, anorexia, avoidant restrictive food intake disorder, coercive control, stalking, statutory rape, rape, emotional, mental, psychological, physical, and sexual abuse, suicidal ideation, and attempted murder. Lexi Weinbaum is an athlete, student, and victim advocate from Connecticut. She began riding horses competitively at a very young age, and eventually pivoted to become a Division 1 collegiate runner. However, beyond Lexi’s incredible physical prowess, her ability to overcome adversity (especially at such a young age), is what stands out most. What came after an attempt at Lexi's life, as well as her vulnerability and poise, all leave a lasting impression on everyone who listens.Alexa's TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@lexiweinbaumAlexa’s Instagram https://instagram.com/alexaweinbaumFor additional resources, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: kidnapping, abduction, rape, child abuse, stalking, trafficking, and suicidal ideationCheryl Hunter is television writer and producer, as well as a survivor advocate. Her efforts have been seen on NBC, CNN, Dr. Oz, The TED Talk stage, and many more major media platforms. But her journey of sharing about her traumatic abduction and assaults did not begin immediately. On this episode of What Came Next, listen to Cheryl share what propelled her to finally be open about her trauma, and what compels her to continue to speak out on behalf of victims everywhere. Cheryl’s websitehttps://cherylhunter.com/USE IT: Turn Setbacks into Successhttps://www.amazon.com/USE-Turn-Setbacks-into-Success/dp Cheryl’s Instagramhttps://instagram.com/huntercherylInformation about Wabi Sabihttps://japanobjects.com/features/wabi-sabi

*Content warning: book banning, rape, sexual abuse, domestic violence, police brutality, racism, segregation, lynching, and murder.Cassandra Lane is an award-winning author, journalist, artist, and speaker. Her beautiful memoir, We Are Bridges, is a labor of love born from generational trauma, as well as years of healing (and honing her craft). We are honored that Cassandra was willing to speak with us about what came next after her great-grandfather’s lynching in the early 1900’s, and how she was left healing her family’s residual trauma upon her entrance to motherhood.We Are Bridges by Cassandra Lanehttps://amzn.to/3s0XJLJCassandra on Instgramhttp://www.instagram.com/cassandra.lane71History of Lynchings in Americahttps://naacp.org/find-resources/history-explained/history-lynching-americaBillie Holiday's Strange Fruit https://youtu.be/Web007rzSOILA Parent Magazinehttps://www.laparent.com/PEN America: Book Banshttps://pen.org/issue/book-bans/Additional resources:http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesThank you Kitsch, for sponsoring this episode. Don’t forget to visit http://www.mykitsch.com/WCN for 30% your order!

Content warning: child abuse, coercive control, stalking, kidnapping, sexual abuse, sexual assault, rape, pedophilia, fraud, and suicide. In this second part of Jan’s story, she continues to share about the grooming and sexual abuse she and her parents experienced at the hands of a neighbor. All that she’s done to heal since the abuse ended - which includes a book, a Netflix documentary entitled Abducted in Plain Sight, Peacock's scripted series called A Friend of the Family, her non-profit, podcast, and more - are beautiful examples of resiliency and strength. Thus, we are so grateful she joined us today to share all that came next for her as a survivor and parent. The Jan Broberg Foundation https://thejanbrobergfoundation.org/ Jan’s Thrivivor Community https://www.thrivivors.com/ Jan’s Podcast https://www.thejanbrobergshow.com/ Jan's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/janibroberg/ Peacock’s A Friend of the Family https://www.peacocktv.com/stream-tv/a-friend-of-the-family Netflix’s Abducted in Plain Sight https://www.netflix.com/title/81000864 What Happened to Bob Berchtold? https://www.nbc.com/nbc-insider/what-happened-to-robert-berchtold-a-friend-of-the-family Additional resources + non-profit ogranizations: http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: child abuse, coercive control, stalking, kidnapping, sexual abuse, sexual assault, rape, pedophilia, fraud, and suicide. Jan Broberg is a mother, actress, speaker, and advocate. When she was a young girl, she and her parents faced grooming and sexual abuse at the hands of a neighbor. The events that unfolded afterwards, which include two childhood abductions by the same man, are a clear example of grooming and the cyclical nature of abuse. However, all that she’s done to heal since - which includes a book, a Netflix documentary entitled Abducted in Plain Sight, Peacock's scripted series called A Friend of the Family, her non-profit, podcast, and more - are also beautiful examples of resiliency and strength. Thus, we are so grateful she joined us today to share all that came next for her as a survivor and parent. The Jan Broberg Foundation https://thejanbrobergfoundation.org/ Jan’s Thrivivor Community https://www.thrivivors.com/ Jan’s Podcast https://www.thejanbrobergshow.com/ Jan's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/janibroberg/ Peacock’s A Friend of the Family https://www.peacocktv.com/stream-tv/a-friend-of-the-family Netflix’s Abducted in Plain Sight https://www.netflix.com/title/81000864 What Happened to Bob Berchtold? https://www.nbc.com/nbc-insider/what-happened-to-robert-berchtold-a-friend-of-the-family Additional resources + non-profit ogranizations: http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

This week we are taking some time for gratitude. A big THANK YOU to all of our past and future What Came Next guests, as well as our ever-growing community of listeners. This show couldn't exist without all of you. Listen to this week’s mini-sode for a sneak peek at who next week’s guest will be. And please consider taking the time to catch up on past episodes, leave a positive review, or follow What Came Next on Instagram. Thank you!What Came Next on Instagramhttp://www.instagram.com/whatcamenext_podcastFor additional resources please visit:http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: domestic violence, verbal, physical, and mental abuse, threats, stalking, litigation abuse, and fraud. Danielle is a mom, successful entrepreneur, and domestic violence survivor whose journey was highlighted in Season 9 of Something Was Wrong. The season centered around Danielle’s narrative, navigating a very difficult relationship to a man named Ardie. She eventually went on to co-parent with him; there were struggles in the courtroom, out of the courtroom, and with other women he was defrauding. In season nine we also get to hear from Kenji, the husband of Darcy (one of the other women Ardie was dating, deceiving, and abusing). Since the season’s release in August 2021, Danielle has experienced many legal, professional, and personal updates. Tiffany Reese joins Danielle and Amy on these WCN Presents SWW Updates to help shed light on all that’s come next in Danielle’s journey after sharing her story on Something Was Wrong. We are so grateful for this conversation and all that Danielle does to advocate for other victims. Something Was Wrong S9 Trailer https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-season-9-trailer/ Additional Resources: http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: domestic violence, verbal, physical, and mental abuse, threats, stalking, litigation abuse, and fraud. Danielle is a mom, successful entrepreneur, and domestic violence survivor whose journey was highlighted in Season 9 of Something Was Wrong. The season centered around Danielle’s narrative, navigating a very difficult relationship to a man named Ardie. She eventually went on to co-parent with him; there were struggles in the courtroom, out of the courtroom, and with other women he was defrauding. In season nine we also get to hear from Kenji, the husband of Darcy (one of the other women Ardie was dating, deceiving, and abusing). Since the season’s release in August 2021, Danielle has experienced many legal, professional, and personal updates. Tiffany Reese joins Danielle and Amy on these WCN Presents SWW Updates to help shed light on all that’s come next in Danielle’s journey after sharing her story on Something Was Wrong. We are so grateful for this conversation and all that Danielle does to advocate for other victims. Thank you to HelloFresh for sponsoring this episode. Don’t forget to visit HelloFresh.com/WCN50 to receive 50% off your order + free shipping on your first order!Something Was Wrong S9 Trailer https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-season-9-trailer/Additional Resources:http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: gun violence, mass murder, depression, anxiety, suicidal ideationChelsea is a mother, teacher, survivor of gun violence, and advocate from Calabasas, California. Amy has known Chelsea since first grade, and although their paths diverged after high school, social media helped them stay in general touch. However, it wasn’t until Chelsea posted about her escape from a mass shooting on the anniversary of her survival, that Amy began to learn more about her friend’s more recent journey. The shooting at the Route 91 Music Festival has been featured on many major media platforms and mediums, but Chelsea has never shared her journey publicly. Thus, we are eternally grateful she was willing to share her experiences, and all that’s come next for her within her healing.Marking Five Years Since The Route 91 Harvest Festival Shootinghttps://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/five-years-after-the-route-91-harvest-festival-tragedy-in-las-vegas-pain-is-still-felt/2995300/Remembering The Victims of the Route 91 Harvest Festival Shootinghttps://www.nmvvrc.org/remembering-las-vegas-route-91-harvest-festival/Additional resources + non-profit organizationshttp://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content Warning: child abuse, physical, mental, and emotional abuse, bullying, harassment, suicidal ideation, suicide, and murder. John Callas is a writer, director, and producer with an extensive list of projects including his six novels, the television show Bobby's World, and much more. His career began in the mid-seventies, and offered John a creative outlet after a very tumultuous childhood. From losing his father at a young age to surviving highly abusive school environments, He joins us today to share all that came next for him after publicly disclosing his difficult childhood, and releasing a memoir that was fifty years-in-the-making. The Broken Cycle Media team is deeply appreciative of John's time, energy, and creativity in curating healing. John’s Filmography & Website https://johncallas.com/ John’s Amazon Author Page https://www.amazon.com/stores/John-Callas/author/ When The Rain Stops by John Callas https://amzn.to/3NsEhQj John’s YouTube Channel https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCDLu6O11LsBeGZHKHCcNUcw John’s IMDB https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0130327/ John’s Amazon Author Page https://www.amazon.com/John-Callas/e/B004U7GSZA For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: childhood abuse, sexual abuse, homophobia, stalking, rape, physical violence, sex trafficking, suicidal ideation, and suicideJohn-Michael Lander is a former Olympic-bound diver and current actor, author, speaker, and victim advocate. His words and efforts have been seen everywhere from TIME magazine to the TED Talk stage. He has entitled his experiences of sexual abuse and trafficking “An Athlete’s Silence.” By sharing his story, his goal is to bring awareness to predatory practices in the athletic and education worlds, as well as to change the way society receives sexual abuse victims. I am so honored he joined me today to discuss how he’s transformed all that came next for him into healing for athletes of all ages.Thank you, Kitsch, for sponsoring this episode! To receive 30% off your order, be sure to visit mykitsch.com/wcn Episode *Content warning: child sexual abuse, rape, physical violence, stalking, sex trafficking, self-harm, suicidal ideation, suicide attemptsResources:Darkness to Light: End Child Sexual Abuse - http://d2l.orgThe Army of Survivors - https://thearmyofsurvivors.org/National Coalition to End Sexual Exploitation - https://endsexualexploitation.org/End Violence Against Women International: https://evawintl.org/Survivor Space: https://survivorspace.org/Additional resources + non-profit organizations: http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesSources: Department of Homeland Security. (n.d.). Human Trafficking. Retrieved July 8, 2024, from https://www.dhs.gov/hsi/investigate/human-trafficking National Human Trafficking Hotline. (n.d.). National Statistics. https://humantraffickinghotline.org/en/statistics Darkness 2 Light. (2023). Child Sexual Abuse Updates. https://www.d2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Child-Sexual-Abuse-Updates.pdf Strauss Investigation. (n.d.). Ohio State University. https://straussinvestigation.osu.edu/ Burga, S. (2023, April 23). Congress Re-Introduces Bill to Protect Kids from Online Sexual Abuse. Here’s What To Know. Time Magazine. https://time.com/6273895/congress-re-introduces-bill-to-protect-kids-from-online-sexual-abuse/ John-Michael Lander: An Athlete’s Silence: https://anathletessilence.com/John-Michael’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnmichaellanderSurface Tension by John-Michael Lander: https://amzn.to/3q7K1ptCracked Surface by John-Michael Lander: https://amzn.to/42499uk

Episode *Content warning: This episode includes discussion of domestic violence, child abuse, murder, suicide, and physical, mental, emotional, and litigation abuse. Tina Swithin is a mother, author, speaker, and victim advocate in the family court arena. Her blog, “One Mom’s Battle,” as well as her online platforms and groups, offer support for those going through divorces or custody battles to hundreds of thousands of people each month. Her journey in the family court system began at her own birth, then continued after escaping her abusive marriage and seeking full custody of her children. She uses her experience and ever-growing expertise to enact social and legal change in the family court landscape, and I’m so glad she joined us today to share what came next for her amidst her very taxing battle.One Mom’s Battle by Tina Swithinhttps://www.onemomsbattle.com/Tina Swithin’s bookshttps://www.amazon.com/stores/Tina-Swithin/author/B00IR0KRSKFamily Court Awareness Monthhttps://familycourtawarenessmonth.org/National Safe Parents Organizationhttps://www.nationalsafeparents.org/George Washington University National Family Violence Law Centerhttps://www.law.gwu.edu/national-family-violence-law-centerLeah Moses on The Murder of Her Son, Ohm Moses Ghandihttps://ksltv.com/550977/mother-of-teen-murdered-by-his-father-says-the-system-failed-her/Olivia Gentile via Insiderhttps://www.insider.com/author/olivia-gentileHannah Dreyfus via Propublicahttps://www.propublica.org/people/hannah-dreyfus-2Alienation Industry on Reunification Campshttps://www.alienationindustry.com/Google Doc of Murder Victims Amidst Media-Covered Custody Battleshttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1BALQKC3jl9X-j4uImBfjE39juWKXEs-9/view?pli=1Free + Confidential resources: somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Episode *Content warning: child molestation, abduction, stalking, suicide, physical, mental, emotional, and sexual abuse.Kimberly Corban and Kara Robinson Chamberlain are victim advocates and survivors that both turned their traumas into careers in the criminal justice and media spaces. Although their experiences are different in nature, what came next in their journeys have heavily affected their shared mission in the true crime space. They both hope to inspire awareness and healing in the survivor community through their many media efforts, which range from public speaking gigs to a scripted film. They also recently celebrated the launch of their own podcast, Survivors' Guide to True Crime; we are so grateful they were willing to discuss the layeredness of their experiences.Survivors' Guide to True Crimehttps://www.survivorsguidetotruecrime.com/Kimberly's websitehttps://www.kimberlycorban.com/Kara's websitehttps://www.kararobinsonchamberlain.com/Kimberly's Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/kimberly_corbanKara's Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/kararobinsonchamberlainEnd Violence Against Women Internationalhttps://evawintl.org/

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of antisemitism, racism, verbal abuse, impaired driving, alcohol abuse, vehicular manslaughter, and murder.Carol Oschin is a mother, model, actress, speaker, victim advocate, and co-victim of manslaughter. Since losing her beloved son, (former child actor) Jordan, she has used her experiences to educate others about grief and the dangers of drunk driving.Jordan Oschin was born on January 24, 1982 & was killed on February 14th 2014. In his 32 years he made a deep impact on all of those who knew him, and through his short, vibrant career even those who didn’t. His memory will remain to be a blessing for all who had the privilege of knowing him.Daily News on Carol and Jordan Oschinhttps://www.dailynews.com/2016/07/15/how-a-mom-whose-son-was-killed-by-a-drunk-driver-turned-grief-into-action/The Grief Diaries: Loss By Impaired Drivinghttps://amzn.to/465Hz39Impaired Driving Statisticshttps://www.nhtsa.gov/risky-driving/drunk-drivingImpaired Driving Fatality Statisticshttps://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/early-estimate-2021-traffic-fatalities#:~:text=NHTSA%20projects%20that%20an%20estimated,Fatality%20Analysis%20Reporting%20System's%20historyCarol Oschin on TMZ regarding Michael Richardshttps://www.tmz.com/2006/11/22/richards-rant-not-the-first-time/Free + Confidential resources: somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of substance abuse, gun violence, violent threats, self-harm, suicide, suicidal ideation, stalking, emotional, mental, psychological, and physical abuse. Stacie Burrows is a comedian & writer from Topanga, California by way of Texas. We first met about a decade ago while we both performed in a live show centered around motherhood. Although I connected with her musical comedy then, it wasn’t until I watched her one-woman live show, Bulletproof Unicorn, that I truly understood the scope of her strength and tenacity. This week, Stacie is sharing her experiences with domestic violence and sibling abuse, as well as what came next for her after she turned the aftermath of her grief into a one-woman comedy show.Sources:Stacie’s websitehttps://www.stacieburrows.com/The Bulletproof Unicorn on IGhttps://instagram.com/bulletproofunicornshowNailed It (feat. The Assless Chaps) by Mommy Tonkhttps://music.apple.com/us/album/nailed-it-feat-the-assless-chaps/1296705221Expressing Motherhoodhttps://expressingmotherhood.com/Edinburgh Fringe Festivalhttps://www.edfringe.comFree + Confidential resources: somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: destruction of property, stalking, abduction, domestic violence, physical violence, and murder. Lili Greer is a victim advocate and survivor from Australia. Her mother’s life was stolen by her former partner in 2012, when Lili was just thirteen. Since then, Lili has never stopped searching for and advocating for her mom, Tina, no matter what comes next in her journey. In this episode, she explains the Australian criminal justice system thoroughly, and her shocking experiences as a victim within. Utilizing her knowledge, she has also managed to carve out an impactful career in victim advocacy over the last several years. Her narrative is one of tenacity and pure strength, and we’re honored she spoke with us about all that has transpired over the last decade. Episode Note Sources: The Tina Greer Project website https://www.thetinagreerproject.com/ The Tina Greer Project on Instagram http://www.instagram.com/thetinagreerproject The Tina Greer Project on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@thetinagreerproject?_t=8cdm8xW4oep&_r=1 The Tina Greer Project Petition https://chng.it/GJPCJrT94Z Missing Persons Advocacy Network Guide https://www.missingpersonsguide.com/ Mission Australia Domestic Violence Statistics https://www.missionaustralia.com.au/domestic-and-family-violence-statistics# World Health Organization on Violence Against Women https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/violence-against-women Respect Women via WHO https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/WHO-RHR-18.19 Free + Confidential resources: somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of infertility, miscarriages, stillbirth, statutory rape, religious, cultic, sexual, physical, emotional, and mental abuse. Elissa Wall is a mother, author, survivor, and advocate whose incredible work has appeared on everything from Oprah to Netflix. In this second part of her story, Quantum Leap, we are given insight into Elissa’s healing journey, as well as what it’s taken her community to rebuild. We are so grateful for her continued openness and advocacy. Elissa’s websitehttp://www.elissawall.comElissa’s book, “Stolen Innocence”https://amzn.to/3SqMQL7Elissa’s Instagram:http://www.instagram.com/elissa.wallHolding Out Help, Salt Lake Cityhttps://holdingouthelp.org/Cherish Families, Short Creekhttps://cherishfamilies.org/Short Creek Dream Centerhttps://www.shortcreekdreamcenter.org/Washington Post statistics on Rapehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/10/06/less-than-percent-rapes-lead-felony-convictions-least-percent-victims-face-emotional-physical-consequences/Women’s Health on Warren Jeffs sentencehttps://www.womenshealthmag.com/life/a40220506/warren-jeffs-now/

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of infertility, miscarriages, stillbirth, suicidal ideation, statutory rape, and mental, emotional, religious, cultic, sexual, and physical abuse. This episode is brought to you by Kitsch. Get 30% off your entire order by visiting http://mykitsch.com/wcn Elissa Wall is a mother, author, survivor, and advocate whose incredible work has appeared on everything from Oprah to Netflix. After freeing herself from an early life in the Fundamentalist Church, Elissa reinvented herself and her career several times. Yet at the heart of all her work is her incredible storytelling abilities. Most recently, she appeared in the documentary, Keep Sweet: Pray & Obey, in which she shared a bit of her journey and healing. The production made it clear that Elissa’s wisdom and poise are unrivaled, and that there was so much more to her story than four poignant episodes could illustrate. We are so grateful Elissa was willing to share the rest of what came next for her with us. Elissa’s website http://www.elissawall.com Elissa’s book, “Stolen Innocence” https://amzn.to/3SqMQL7 Elissa’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/elissa.wall Holding Out Help, Salt Lake City https://holdingouthelp.org/ Cherish Families, Short Creek https://cherishfamilies.org/ Short Creek Dream Center https://www.shortcreekdreamcenter.org/ Washington Post statistics on Rape https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/10/06/less-than-percent-rapes-lead-felony-convictions-least-percent-victims-face-emotional-physical-consequences/ Women’s Health on Warren Jeffs sentence https://www.womenshealthmag.com/life/a40220506/warren-jeffs-now/ Free + Confidential resources: somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: death threats, litigation, sibling, verbal and sexual abuse, stalking, and murder.Thank you, BetterHelp, for sponsoring this episode! Don't forget to visit http://www.betterhelp.com/wcn for 10% off your first month of services.Amy B. Chesler is an author, podcaster, survivor, and victim advocate. Amy shared her experiences of sibling abuse, as well as her mother’s murder, on Something Was Wrong Season 7. Her consequent experiences in the criminal justice system & the media are largely what inspired the creation of the show, What Came Next. WCN Episode 1, [Amy B. Chesler] This Shit Doesn’t End (released 3/3/23) highlights the continued abuse and terror she faced at the hands of her imprisoned brother; in this episode she explains how she was finally freed from the criminal justice systems (in just the last few weeks) since this podcast’s launch. Something Was Wrong Season 7:https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/2dec880d-db88-4156-aa12-4f82dc496422/episodes/adb93563-71ee-484a-82a8-b74b74aec0c7/something-was-wrong-s7-e1-extreme-anger?ref=dm_sh_BeYRh06neVQMkqxYAAAP0lFnUWhat Came Next, Episode 1: [Amy B. Chesler] This Sh*t Doesn’t End (SWW S7 Updates Part 1)https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/amy-b-chesler-this-sh-t-doesnt-end/id1674051643?i=1000602598564Amy’s Instagramhttp://www.instagram.com/amybcheslerAmy’s Facebookhttp://www.Facebook.com/amybcheslerWorking for Justice: One Family’s Tale of Murder, Betrayal, & Healinghttps://amzn.to/42adAo7Amy’s Petition:https://chng.it/fxqZyJRRFree + Confidential resources: somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of murder, violence, emotional & physical abuse, homophobia, abandonment, infidelity, and child endangerment.Collier Landry is a filmmaker, podcaster, speaker, & victim advocate living in Santa Monica, California. His documentary, A Murder in Mansfield, is a poignant tale of the slaying of his mother and the resulting trauma that followed. What came next in Collier’s journey and healing was largely driven by Noreen’s memory, as well as his mission to inspire others that have dealt with similar loss. Much of Collier’s work centers around ‘moving past murder,’ and strengthening our narratives after trauma. He is also celebrating the recent release of his new podcast, The Survivor Squad, which he co-hosts with Terra Newell.Something Was Wrong Resourceshttp://somethingwaswrong.com/resourcesSources:Collier’s website: http://www.collierlandry.comThe Survivor Squad Podcast w/ Collier Landry and Terra Newellhttps://www.thesurvivorsquad.com/Collier’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/collierlandryCollier’s TikTok:http://www.tiktok.com/collierlandryMoving Past Trauma w/ Collier Landry:https://www.collierlandry.com/podcastA Murder in Mansfield:https://www.amazon.com/Murder-Mansfield-Season-1/dp/B07NBRNBGBCollier’s TED Talkhttps://www.ted.com/talks/collier_landry_what_happens_when_the_answers_we_seek_are_not_what_we_find?language=enForensic Files featuring Collier Landryhttps://www.forensicfilesfiles.com/jack-boyle-noreen-boyle-collier-landry.phpUnited Nations Office on Drugs & Crime Statistics on Intimate Partner Violence/Murderhttps://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime/UN_BriefFem_251121.pdfNational Coalition Against Domestic Violence Statistics https://ncadv.org/STATISTICSNational Coalition Against Domestic Violence Resourceshttps://ncadv.org/resources

Episode *Content warning: This episode includes discussion of coercive control, domestic violence, physical, emotional, and mental abuse, violence, physical assault, weapons, and murder. This episode is brought to you by Kitsch. Get 30% off your entire order by visiting http://mykitsch.com/wcn Terra Newell is a powerhouse victim and animal advocate whose brave journey was the subject of Netflix’s Dirty John, among many other productions. We are deeply honored to chat with our friend about what came next for her after her tragic attack, as well as the work she’s done to educate other trauma survivors since. Terra’s website: http://terranewellsurvival.com Terra’s Instagram http://www.instagram.com/terranewell Terra’s Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/terra_newell Terra’s Pups https://www.instagram.com/terraspups/ Seven Stages of Trauma Bonding https://www.choosingtherapy.com/stages-of-trauma-bonding/ The Survivor Squad https://www.thesurvivorsquad.com Red Song Bird Foundation https://www.redsongbird.org/ Lenora Claire’s Ethical True Crime Consulting Company https://www.lenoraclairellc.com Dirty John the podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dirty-john/id1272970334 Dirty John on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/us/title/80241855?s=i&trkid=258593161&vlang=en&clip=81306880 Dirty John: The Dirty Truth https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07MCVDB63/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of domestic violence, gun violence, murder, mass murder, and mass shooting.Olivia Percaccio is an educator, wife, daughter, sister, and friend to many; she is also the co-victim of a mass murder and shooting. We are so grateful she reached out and shared her experiences with us privately almost two years ago, after Amy’s season of Something Was Wrong aired. We formed a bond over some of the legal, media, and emotional parallels in our journeys. However, this is the first time Olivia has chosen to publicly share what came next for her family and community after experiencing such painful grief while being forced into the public eye. Olivia’s Instagramhttp://www.instagram.com/livydee12March for Our Liveshttp://www.marchforourlives.comEverytown.orghttps://www.everytown.org/Disenfranchised Grief Resourceshttps://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/disenfranchised-griefL.A. Times, “The Face of Evil”https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-scott-dekraai-sentencing-20170922-story.htmlUSA Today on Mass Killings in the UShttps://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2022/08/18/mass-killings-database-us-events-since-2006/9705311002/Information on the Orange County Jail Informant Processhttps://www.kpcc.org/show/take-two/2016-12-16/how-a-mass-murder-case-unraveled-the-orange-county-jail-informants-scandalSomething Was Wrong Resourceshttp://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of coercive control, cults, cultic abuse, branding, emotional, physical, and sexual abuse, rape, & sex slavery.Sarah Edmondson is an actor, author, podcaster, victim advocate, & mother who has appeared in many publications and productions, including HBO’s The Vow. She found her passion for the performing arts at a young age, and has seen great success in front of the camera. Her roles in front of them have drastically shifted over the last decade though; she now uses the spotlight to share her experiences in NXIVM. Sarah was tested to her limits by her journey within the multi-level marketing sex cult, and we are so grateful she was willing to talk to us about how she’s turned what came next for her into education for the masses.Sponsors:Thank you, BetterHelp, for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to visit http://www.betterhelp.com/wcn for 10% off your first month of services.Sources:Sarah’s Cultic Abuse & Coercive Control Resources:https://www.sarahedmondson.com/resourcesSarah’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/sarahedmondsonA Little But Culty on Instagram:https://instagram.com/alittlebitcultySarah’s podcast, A Little Bit Culty:https://alittlebitculty.com/Sarah’s Book, Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult That Bound My Lifehttps://amzn.to/3RwmmY2NY Times on NXIVM 10/17/17https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/17/nyregion/nxivm-women-branded-albany.htmlHBO’s The Vowhttps://www.hbo.com/the-vowPsychology Today, Understanding the Basics of Cults:https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-mind/202106/understanding-cults-the-basicsCombatting Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassanhttps://amzn.to/3BaCQzInsider.com on the Legal Progression of the NXIVM trials:https://www.insider.com/what-is-nxivm-keith-raniere-explainer-2019-4#june-30-2021-allison-mack-was-sentenced-to-3-years-in-prison-27I Got Out Movementhttp://igotout.orgCult Info Since 1979 via International Cultic Studies Associationhttps://www.icsahome.com/articles/prevalence For free and confidential resources, please visit: somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of the antisemitism, racism, the Holocaust, sudden death, grief, physical violence, abuse, bigotry, religious persecution, mass murder, genocide, abuse involving children and war. Moshe Blechman is a former soldier, professor, and Rabbi hailing from Poland, whose life changed forever when his hometown was demolished amidst Hitler’s World War 2 efforts. As a result, he was left family-less, homeless, and even country-less by nine-years-old. However, he was given a new chance at life when he became one of the Holocaust’s infamous ‘Tehran Children.’ What came next in Moshe’s life is both heartwarming and heartbreaking, and it’s a great honor to help him share his story. Synagogue: a Jewish place of worship Shul: the hebrew word for temple, or a Jewish house of worship. Mitzvot: a good deed or occurrence likely born from religious duty. Eema: the hebrew word for mother Yeshiva: an Orthodox Jewish elementary or secondary school Yelladim Tehran: ‘Tehran children’ Ein: the hebrew word for none or nothing Sponsors: This episode of What Came Next is brought to you by BetterHelp. Please visit https://www.betterhelp.com/WCN for more information about their online therapy services & to get 10% off your first month of services. Sources: BBC Stats on Polish Deaths in the Holocaust https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49523932 Henrietta Szolds & The Tehran Children via Hadassah https://www.hadassahmagazine.org/2020/01/07/henrietta-szolds-children/ The Holocaust Encyclopedia on The Tehran Children https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/tehran-children A Shocking Lack of Holocaust Awareness https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/survey-finds-shocking-lack-holocaust-knowledge-among-millennials-gen-z-n1240031

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of racism, revenge porn, cybercrimes, stalking, gang stalking, emotional, mental, and physical abuse, and murder.Author, speaker, and activist Charlotte Laws recently appeared on Netflix’s Most Hated Man on the Internet. Her fierce tenacity played a large role in the takedown of a major nonconsensual pornography website, and she continues to add a great deal to the conversation around the revenge porn legal landscape. However, her life before the infamous legal and media battles, as well as what came next for Charlotte and her daughter after it, is extremely riveting. The Most Hated Man on the Internet:https://www.netflix.com/title/81387065Charlotte’s website:https://charlottelaws.com/Charlotte’s memoir, Rebel in High Heelshttp://rebelinhighheels.com/Charlotte’s true crime memoir, Devil in the Basementhttp://devilinthebasement.com/Charlotte’s memoir, Undercover Debutantehttp://undercoverdebutante.com/Information about The Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1968https://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdfNAAG Update on Legal Landscape of Revenge Pornhttps://www.naag.org/attorney-general-journal/an-update-on-the-legal-landscape-of-revenge-porn/Newsweek: An Update on Hunter Moorehttps://www.newsweek.com/hunter-moore-still-prison-today-now-anyone-most-hated-man-internet-1729636

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of sexual assault, rape, abduction, gun violence, grand theft auto, and domestic violence. Danette Ousley is a mother, grandmother, and survivor from Milwaukee, Wisconsin. She first shared her experiences of abduction and sexual assault at an event that was filmed for a VICE documentary that will be released in April. Danette’s ability to remain hopeful throughout all that came next for her over the last 30 years is truly a testament to her strength. Danette’s Email Address: sitandspeakthetea@gmail.com Danette’s Inspirational YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@sipandspeaktheteawithdd1509 Episode Sources: Statistics on Abduction: https://www.ctdatacollaborative.org/story/abducted-victims RAINN’s Statistics on Rape in America: https://www.rainn.org/statistics/scope-problem For free and confidential resources, please visit: somethingwaswrong.com/resources

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of fertility fraud, rape, sexual, legal, religious, suicidal ideation, mental, emotional, and psychological abuse. Netflix’s Our Father: https://www.netflix.com/us/title/81227735?s=i&trkid=13747225&vlang=en&clip=81592941 Jacoba’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/jacobajballard Angela Ganote’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/aganote?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Eve Wiley’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/eveawiley?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Obstetrics & Gynecology, the official publication of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists on Fertility Fraud, Legal Firsts, & Medical Ethics: https://journals.lww.com/greenjournal/Citation/2019/11000/Fertility_Fraud,_Legal_Firsts,_and_Medical_Ethics.4.aspx American Council on Science & Health - Fertility Fraud Overview: https://www.acsh.org/news/2022/04/11/fertility-fraud-fertility-industry-danger-16239 HuffPost Quiverfull article: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/quiverfull-movement-facts_n_7444604 Angela Golden’s Family Speaks Out: https://fox59.com/indiana-news/family-of-4-year-old-killed-by-donald-cline-tells-real-story-of-girl-portrayed-in-netflix-documentary-our-father/

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of coercive control, professional abuse, and financial fraud. Ron Schnackenberg is a father, husband, pilot, and business leader who appeared in Netflix’s Dirty Money. Ron’s rocky experience as a salesperson at Trump University only lasted eight months, but his resulting advocacy for fraud & professional abuse victims has continued over the last decade and a half. For free and confidential resources, please visit: somethingwaswrong.com/resources Sources: Netflix’s Dirty Money https://www.netflix.com/title/80118100 Ron’s LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/schnack23 ABC News on the Trump University settlement https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-finalizes-25-million-settlement-victims-donald-trumps/story?id=54347237 USA Today on Trump University https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/04/10/trump-university-settlement-judge-finalized/502387002/

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of sexual assault, rape, suicidal ideation, self-harm, and professional, mental, emotional, & physical abuse. P.J. Masten is a businesswoman, survivor, victim advocate, and former Playboy “Bunny Mother” who appeared in A&E’s Secrets of Playboy. This week on What Came Next, P.J. describes the harsh realities of surviving rape and abuse at the hands of an infamous actor, as well as the strength and fortitude it has taken her to thrive.Sources:PJ’s email: pjmasten@yahoo.comA&E’s Secrets of Playboyhttps://www.aetv.com/shows/secrets-of-playboyInformation on State-By -State Felony Sexual Assault Statute of Limitationshttps://www.rainn.org/state-state-guide-statutes-limitationsBessel Van Der Kolk’s The Body Keeps the Scorehttps://www.besselvanderkolk.com/resources/the-body-keeps-the-scoreMayo Clinic on Self-Harm and Cuttinghttps://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/self-injury/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20350956International Study on Self-Harmhttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30274648/National Health Service on PTSD & CPTSDhttps://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/post-traumatic-stress-disorder-ptsd/overview/South African Study on Traumatic Dissociationhttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25906104/NY Times: Bill Cosby is Freedhttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/arts/television/bill-cosby-release-conviction.html

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of professional, mental, and emotional abuse and physical violence. Couture fashion designer Koa Johnson shared his traumatic experiences on Hulu’s The Housewife and The Shah Shocker, after being employed by one of Bravo’s most-watched reality stars. How he prevailed amidst the abuse he faced, as well as what came next after freeing himself from his toxic environment, is an inspiration to all.Sources: Koa’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/designerkojoHulu’s The Housewife & The Shah Shocker: https://www.hulu.com/series/the-housewife-the-shah-shocker-a64df37c-8417-435e-a6c9-57a33b657e2aNBC on Jen Shah’s conviction:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/real-housewives-salt-lake-city-star-jen-shah-pleads-guilty-wire-fraud-rcna37631Vox on Shah’s sentencing:https://www.vox.com/culture/2023/1/6/23542202/jen-shah-real-housewife-sentencing-78-monthsNPR on Shah’s sentencing:https://www.npr.org/2023/01/06/1147452652/jen-shah-real-housewives-star-sentenced-fraudCleverism on Professional Abuse:https://www.cleverism.com/signs-of-emotional-abuse-at-work/CDC Statistics on Workplace Violencehttps://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/violence/fastfacts.htmlNational Safety Council on Workplace Abuse:https://www.nsc.org/work-safety/safety-topics/workplace-violenceState & Territory Business Resourceshttps://www.usa.gov/state-businessState Labor Office Commissioners, Directors, & Secretarieshttps://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/contacts

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of murder, as well as sexual, physical, emotional, mental, and sibling abuse. Amy B. Chesler is an award-winning writer, podcaster, victim advocate, and survivor of domestic violence featured in Season 7 of Something Was Wrong podcast. Her victim advocacy efforts have also appeared on Evil Lives Here, Chicken Soup for the Soul, Scary Mommy, and many more major media outlets. Amy and Tiffany Reese, creator of Something Was Wrong and co-creator of What Came Next, are here to explore what compelled them to develop this new show as a means for healing, advocacy, and justice.Petition to Keep Jesse Winnick in Prison (please sign + share!)https://www.change.org/p/sign-to-keep-jesse-winnick-in-prison-in-loving-memory-of-hadas-winnickSources: Something Was Wrong, Season 7https://somethingwaswrong.com/season-7/Working for Justicehttps://amzn.to/3WwuUBoTrue Crime Isn’t a Fad, It’s My Life via Scary Mommyhttps://www.scarymommy.com/true-crime-my-lifeAmy’s Victim Impact Statementhttps://amybchesler.com/paroleupdate/Evil Lives Here, “What if He Gets Out?”https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/video/evil-lives-here-investigation-discovery/what-if-he-gets-out

What happens after the experiences of true crime survivors have been shared with the world? Does the media truly capture all it entails to survive such tragedy in the public eye? What comes after the convictions are in, the cameras stop rolling, and the court of public opinion has spoken? Can sharing our stories lead to justice, and is there ever really justice? These questions and many more are discussed on the new true crime docuseries podcast brought to you by Broken Cycle Media, What Came Next is co-created and produced by Something Was Wrong’s Tiffany Reese and host, award-winning writer, victim advocate and true crime survivor Amy B.Chesler. On What Came Next, you’ll hear firsthand accounts from those impacted, with behind the scenes insights about what came next for survivors after their stories were shared with the world, and how the media impacts crime victims and their loved ones.On What Came Next you’ll hear from survivors Koa Johnson (Real Housewives of Salt Lake City), PJ Masten (Secrets of Playboy), Jacoba Ballard (Our Father), Ron Schnackenberg (Dirty Money), Charlotte Laws (Most Hated Man), Sarah Edmondson (NXIVM), Terra Newell (Dirty John), Collier Landry (A Murder in Mansfield), Elissa Wall (Keep Sweet, Pray, & Obey) and many more incredible survivors. Subscribe now wherever you listen to podcasts to hear the first three episodes of What Came Next on 3/3/23.

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