AI and the Limits of Trust (ft. Dr. Mario Trapp)
Podcast: The Atomic Exchange PodcastPublished On: Tue Aug 04 2026
Description: In Episode 76 of The Atomic Exchange Podcast, Dr. Goran Calic and Jennifer Ward welcome Dr. Mario Trapp, director of the Fraunhofer Institute for Cognitive Systems, to discuss AI safety and the risks of autonomous systems. Dr. Trapp explains why conventional software quality assurance doesn't work for AI, how his team borrows from Kahneman's dual-process theory to build safer systems, and why proving self-driving cars are safe is nearly impossible given the infinite variability of real-world driving. The conversation turns personal as Goran, a heavy Tesla Full Self-Driving user, questions his own trust in the technology, and Dr. Trapp raises a striking point about accountability when there's no one to blame but a machine.
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